I mean it did beat SF2(?!?), but eh. 55% on Elder Scrolls aint s***. Bout to get beat down by RE4.

I wouldn't be quick to judge, if Oblivion has remained the same strength this isn't too far off what Wind Waker got and RE4 is at around that strength.



Speaking of Oblivion. Using 2009 GoldenEye gets 57.60% on Oblivion (DKC2 was in the 2009 match). What does Skyrim get on Oblivion?
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Points 42/48
Man, I haven't gotten many matches wrong, but now 3 of the 4 matches I've got wrong have been multi-point matches.

Why can't I get more meaningless one-pointers wrong instead.
ZeldaTPLink posted...
I played SMRPG about 5-6 years ago and I didn't really like it.

Makes sense if the thing is liked for being the first Mario RPG, but it pales in comparison to the other Mario RPGs that came after it.

My main issue with it is that it feels more like a generic square RPG that happens to have Mario characters in it, than an actual Mario game.
I've heard that complaint before and it usually makes me question whether the people making it have actually played other Square RPGs. The game doesn't look or sound much like them, it is a JRPG with turn-based battles but so are the other Mario RPGs and SMRPG's gameplay isn't all that similar to Square games otherwise, and the tone is a lot closer to the other Mario RPGs than it is to typical Square games.

And I mean, it's not that disliking SMRPG is unreasonable in itself but, like...Paper Mario wasn't anything like a standard Mario game either. Super Paper Mario even changed the viewpoint to 2D and ditched turn-based combat for real-time and it still didn't feel much like a "real" Mario game.
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I think the Europe performance is putting to rest any fears of an RE4 upset
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SMRPG is under 55% against Oblivion at this point. The room for it to upset RE4 is just getting too slender, even if Oblivion has stayed constant, and I suspect it hasn't.
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Oblivion is definitely weaker. Skyrim has replaced it among the Elder Scroll fans that want a more streamlined game, while the hardcore fans who've been with the series for years are going to stick with Morrowind. Not much reason to play it anymore.

Also Mario RPG actually has a level-up system that makes sense and doesn't punish you for grinding
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Ulti doesn't hate Chrono Cross anymore? FINALLY!
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If RE4 loses to a fourth-tier Nintendo game (in terms of contest strength), then i really don't know what to say anymore.
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RE4 will absolutely win that match. It was never really in doubt either. People were just very excited about the early vote for a little while.
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-Zelmor- posted...
If RE4 loses to a fourth-tier Nintendo game (in terms of contest strength), then i really don't know what to say anymore.


It wont lose to SMRPG.

Because it'll lose to Witcher 3 and it's rallies.
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Very interested to see how the day vote plays out here. SMRPG is at 59% in the States, so it should regain some ground.

Still though, that night vote was staggering.
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While I probably take Chrono Cross over San Andreas, WoW's definitely gotten very weak. The latest expansion alienated a lot of fans and the subs have gotten lower and lower. SMRPG should be able to beat it easily.
Welp... After watching GTA's poor performances, do you think there is a possibility that GTAV vs. GTA:SA doesn't even happen at all? I never really considered it up until now.

...Unless Shenmue and Shovel Knight are stronger than we're giving them credit for. <_<
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I would be surprised if GTAV/GTA:SA actually happened, because GTAV has not performed at a level suggesting it can beat SMRPG. GTA:SA beating Chrono Cross is more likely to happen and I'd like to see both GTAs face off against SMRPG so both games can be directly compared to each other through their performances against SMRPG.
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I think the widely held expectation is that no GTA games will make it to round 3.
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transcience posted...
I think the widely held expectation is that no GTA games will make it to round 3.


Well, if I was worried about having picked GTA V > RE4, now I whole-heartedly regret it!
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I don't think San Andreas is guaranteed to lose to Chrono Cross, myself. I think the biggest thing dragging it down is going to be GTAV having a match the same day.
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I don't see how that could possibly drag it down. I expect the opposite.
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I don't think San Andreas is guaranteed to lose to Chrono Cross, myself. I think the biggest thing dragging it down is going to be GTAV having a match the same day.

GTAV/SMRPG will be on the same day so the point is moot.

I would still take GTA:SA over WoW so CC isn't guaranteed to win, but I am feeling pretty good about my pick
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BGE3: Today's Matches GTAV>Shenmue, SMRPG>Oblivion, GTA:SA>SK, CC>WoW
Points 42/48
what does Shovel Knight need to put on WoW for GTA:SA=CC?
A few days before the contest I made a topic claiming that I took Shovel Knight over San Andreas
It looked really plasuible

Then I realized how stupid that was and even IF he was announced for Smash it wouldn't make a difference
So I am glad I picked SA>Shovel Knight at the end
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1337gamerpr0 posted...
what does Shovel Knight need to put on WoW for GTA:SA=CC?


47.58%
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
I don't see how that could possibly drag it down. I expect the opposite.
It's asking a lot for gamefaqs voters to side with GTA against anything well-known and well-liked here. GTA is massively popular in general but doesn't really fit the site's tastes so there's some schadenfreude in seeing it losing. Having two of them on the same day seems likely to aggravate this mindset.
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I think I like San Andreas next round, just because I'm not sure where I'd go in a WoW/SK match.

I'd still feel weird picking it though because Golden Sun
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Wow, I completely forgot that Oblivion did so well on Wind Waker five years ago. Very solid performance from Mario RPG here - it'll easily get to RE4, and at that point, it'll just be whether Nintendo magic/bias is enough to take out a potentially stronger non-Nintendo entrant.
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And I think both GTAs are getting slaughtered next round. The writing's on the wall.
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Holy crap that night vote. So much for beating RE4
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
Hmmm, actually WoW looked better in GotD than I thought. Never mind, CC looks good for next round.
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KamikazePotato posted...
Holy crap that night vote. So much for beating RE4


I assume that you're referring to GTA V...?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I need to rewrite my Chrono Cross review. I've really come to respect the game recently.


You know, it says a lot about your opinions if you think that something is utter trash and then you change your opinions on it
Maybe it's time to rewrite your TFT(0.5), SOTC (0.5), LOZTP (4), DMC4 (1.5) , RE5 (1), SSBB (1)
Because you honestly have no f***ing idea what you are talking about
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charmander6000 posted...
Imagine SMRPG's strength if it even had an average night vote.

Does anyone take anything in this 8-pack over Oblivion besides SMRPG?


Nope. This division is ridiculous; 2 of the 5 strongest games in the division will be gone by the end of round 1 because they're facing stronger ones. (I'd put Oblivion 5th, and I'm not really sure about Paper Mario vs. Super Mario RPG--most of the experts seem to consider SMRPG stronger because of SNESFear and, well, SMRPG is beating a game that...no, wait, that was TTYD that Oblivion beat, and although I personally preferred TTYD to the original, NostalgiaFAQs makes me think the original should be stronger. Though I'd take TTYD to win a rematch since that match was pre-Skyrim.

Anyway, the reason I'd consider PM > SMRPG is because, as noted here, SMRPG has like no European vote.
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Advokaiser posted...
KamikazePotato posted...
Holy crap that night vote. So much for beating RE4


I assume that you're referring to GTA V...?

No, pretty sure he means SMRPG.

The consensus from the beginning was that the winner of Oblivion/SMRPG would win this half-division and GTA V's poor performance on Shenmue is only reinforcing that it will likely lose to SMRPG next round. After how crazy SMRPG looked in the power hour people were talking up a possible SMRPG > RE4 upset but that looks a lot less likely now.
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charmander6000 posted...
I mean it did beat SF2(?!?), but eh. 55% on Elder Scrolls aint s***. Bout to get beat down by RE4.

I wouldn't be quick to judge, if Oblivion has remained the same strength this isn't too far off what Wind Waker got and RE4 is at around that strength.



Speaking of Oblivion. Using 2009 GoldenEye gets 57.60% on Oblivion (DKC2 was in the 2009 match). What does Skyrim get on Oblivion?


Probably something really high, because SFF. Oblivion could be worth 40% on Skyrim indirectly and it would still struggle to get 20% in an actual match.

But since you're probably asking for that indirect measure...I have no idea.
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My assumption pre-contest was that Skyrim would double Oblivion before any SFF, partly due to Oblivion getting weaker.
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RE4 is projected to get like 57% against Oblivion, and that's assuming Oblivion hasn't dropped a bit since 2010, which I think it has. It's a good enough performance from SMRPG tor each the division finals, but that's it.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I was looking through some polls and found this one:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5745-best-of-2014-wii-u

Just for fun, how much does Smash get on San Andreas if we assume a constant Shovel Knight?
If Golden Sun could beat GTA, I'm sure CC could do the same. I don't know how strong Shovel Knight is but given how it's an indie game that was released within the past year or so and isn't Undertale, it's probably not very.

Only thing I'm worried about is the night vote. GTA is really strong in Europe and CC wasn't released there. But then again CC is kicking WoW's ass there.

Ultimaphazon posted...
I was looking through some polls and found this one:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5745-best-of-2014-wii-u

Just for fun, how much does Smash get on San Andreas if we assume a constant Shovel Knight?


95.27%

Not factoring in SFF, obviously
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Ultimaphazon posted...
I was looking through some polls and found this one:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5745-best-of-2014-wii-u

Just for fun, how much does Smash get on San Andreas if we assume a constant Shovel Knight?


Shovel Knight is multiplatform though, that's not informative at all <_<
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AxemRedRanger posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
I don't see how that could possibly drag it down. I expect the opposite.
It's asking a lot for gamefaqs voters to side with GTA against anything well-known and well-liked here. GTA is massively popular in general but doesn't really fit the site's tastes so there's some schadenfreude in seeing it losing. Having two of them on the same day seems likely to aggravate this mindset.


I think gta will lose both matches regardless, but the reasoning here I disagree with entirely. It's kind of a stretch if you ask me. If they don't like gta then they will vote against it on whatever day or what other match is happening.

I could see harm if there was an anti-gta rally sure, but in terms of base gamefaqs support I don't think it'll come into play.
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UberPyro64 posted...
-Zelmor- posted...
If RE4 loses to a fourth-tier Nintendo game (in terms of contest strength), then i really don't know what to say anymore.


It wont lose to SMRPG.

Because it'll lose to Witcher 3 and it's rallies.


Witcher could legit take out Mario RPG.

RE4 is a terrible matchup for any western game though. IT just has that insane fanbase.
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charmander6000 posted...
I mean it did beat SF2(?!?), but eh. 55% on Elder Scrolls aint s***. Bout to get beat down by RE4.

I wouldn't be quick to judge, if Oblivion has remained the same strength this isn't too far off what Wind Waker got and RE4 is at around that strength.



Speaking of Oblivion. Using 2009 GoldenEye gets 57.60% on Oblivion (DKC2 was in the 2009 match). What does Skyrim get on Oblivion?


Probably something really high, because SFF. Oblivion could be worth 40% on Skyrim indirectly and it would still struggle to get 20% in an actual match.

But since you're probably asking for that indirect measure...I have no idea.


Lol you're having a laugh aren't you? 80-20 Skyrim? The SFF isn't that strong. Skyrim would double it at best. 65-70 max. I'd say in the lower 60's.
That powerful Mario morning vote stopped the bleeding percentagewise, though it's going down again, a lot slower this time, now that we're past noon. One thing I've never understood, though it seems to be enduring even this year, is why Mario is stronger in the morning than the afternoon.
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Is it possible that shenmue has boosted?

I mean it had the really high profile kickstarter lately and I don't think we've seen it since the votals collapsed.
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Eddv posted...
Is it possible that shenmue has boosted?

I mean it had the really high profile kickstarter lately and I don't think we've seen it since the votals collapsed.


That kickstarter is literally the only reason Shenmue is even here.
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