GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1208
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... Bring back the BT MGS contest strength rankings from last topic But seriously where were they I want to see them again |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... AlecTrevelyan006 posted...Bring back the BT MGS contest strength rankings from last topic it was like MGS5 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 4 or some silly s*** --- Communists |
transcience posted... I wrote about this in my crew writeup -- gamefaqs doesn't care about great gameplay. it'll always be secondary to the story, characters and setting. mgsv sucks at that and so it's weak. this isn't a new/old thing so much as mgs moving in a direction that we don't care for. we'll see the same thing in a few days when Destiny bombs too. But Zelda. charmander6000 posted... So right now Fallout 3 is expected to get 58.08% on Final Fantasy IV, which means Super Mario World is expected to get between 53.55% (with SMB3 in the poll) and 63.47% (with Final Fantasy in the poll) How long after Fallout 4's release is the match happening? I know it was originally a month but then Allen changed the schedule. I still don't think Fallout 4's release will be enough to give it a win due to it's relatively poor reception, however. TheKoolAidShoto posted... AlecTrevelyan006 posted...AlecTrevelyan006 posted...Bring back the BT MGS contest strength rankings from last topic He probably isn't too far off, he just put the weakest game first. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. (edited 11/15/2015 7:16:18 AM)report |
I don't think Fallout 3 gets all that close to SMW. --- satoru iwata |
Zelda is absolutely an experience over gameplay game. people aren't playing Zelda for the great combat. Fallout 3 has to get past Undertale first --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Experience sure I guess, but story? Also there's a lot more even gameplay-wise to Zelda than just combat! --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/15/2015 7:59:43 AM)report |
TheKoolAidShoto posted... AlecTrevelyan006 posted...AlecTrevelyan006 posted...Bring back the BT MGS contest strength rankings from last topic Even better, 2 > 3. He seriously believes that nonsense. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I
dunno. I think the story/characters idea applies to MGS, because people
have always played MGS for story first, but numerous popular Nintendo
games -- Mario, 2D Zelda, Metroid, Kirby, Mega Man -- are all gameplay
first experiences. They have story and characters, but I'd hesitate to
say people play them for that first. I mean we just saw DKC2 beat
Xenoblade. --- satoru iwata |
It's
not so much GameFAQs taste so much as "in general, the view on MGSV is
that it has the best gameplay of the series but its story is weak
compared to the others". --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I decided to take a look to see how the gurus are doing relative to the casuals. In total the gurus out performed the casuals 33-7 by an average percent of 13.41%. Unsurprisingly six of those seven were from the cookie upsets, though we weren't too far from the casuals in Sonic 2 > Portal (1.81% off) and Suikoden II > MH4U (3.21%) off. The only match that was the guru favourite, but the gurus performed worse was FE: A > Super Mario Maker. Our best performance was in FFVIII > GTA: VC where we finished 55.12% ahead of the casuals. Our worst performance was Mass Effect > SMG2 where the casuals finished 31.64% ahead of us. Here's a full list... FFVIII/GTA: VC (55.12) Halo/Minecraft (41.32) FFX/Half-Life (38.75) Okami/Warcraft 3 (34.69) FFT/RE2 (30.27) BK/BG2 (28.91) MP/Morrowind (28.10) Pokemon RBY/Tetris (26.95) SW: KotOR/Xenogears (22.56) PM: TTYD/ToS (22.27) GE007/Diablo II (21.62) SSBM/Portal (21.51) TLoU/Halo 3 (21.49) KH2/MGS4 (21.26) LoZ: WW/Pokemon XY (20.00) MMX/Batman: AC (19.90) FFVI/AC2 (18.63) FFIX/KH (18.32) HL2/Demon's Souls (16.53) Uncharted 2/TWD (16.48) LoZ: TP/SoA (13.79) SM64/MK8 (13.47) SSB4/Planescape (11.52) Skyrim/PW: AA (9.95) Pokemon GSC/TWEWY (9.93) Castlevania: SotN/PW: AA T&T (9.72) SMW/AC: NL (9.31) SMB3/AoE2 (8.27) Persona 4/999 (7.52) CT/R&C UYA (7.32) Fallout 3/LiS (7.28) FFVII/Journey (5.98) LoZ: OoT/Hearthstone (4.39) Sonic 2/Portal 2 (-1.81) Suikoden 2/MH4U (-3.21) FE: Awakening/SMM (-9.42) DKC2/Xenoblade (-14.12) Undertale/ME3 (-18.30) DQ8/Persona 3 (-28.08) Mass Effect/SMG2 (-31.64) --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:LttP>CS, FFIV>DE, MGSV>PD, DS>Civilization V Points 34/40 (edited 11/15/2015 8:23:37 AM)report |
old
Nintendo is certainly the exception. you won't see a DKC2-esque game be
strong today. the best comparison I can think of is like Rayman Origins
and that would be awful if it made it today. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Like
I said, it's all about expectations. The people on this site who play
MGS mainly play it for story. MGSV had a mediocre story and that's why
it is struggling. Mario games are expected to have great platforming and
story is basically unnecessary. Also, the strongest Nintendo game on the site does try a lot more in the story department (Zelda) than a typical Mario game. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Yuri_LowelI posted... Ryugai posted...LeonhartFour posted...Yeah, MGSV is a fun game, but it's also missing a lot of the charm that goes into a typical MGS game. I agree with you guys that there's some gameplay stuff that is really cool. There is a ton of variety in the way you CAN approach things. However I think part of the problem is that old school MGS fans are so used to old school stealth gameplay that they don't think of a lot of these interesting things you can do. Also a lot of the stuff you unlock doesn't really have an explanation of how effective the tools are. So if you choose to loadout with it and blow a bunch of GMP on it and it ends up being a terrible weapon you feel pissed and more conservative about your loadouts going forward. You'll end up sticking with things that you know will work. If you had full access to all of the tools in the game at any time like in the old school MGS games, I feel like the game would be a lot freer. Another thing that funnels gameplay decisions is the soldier recovery mechanic. You feel pressured to merely knock out guards and fulton them. I think taking in prisoners and getting them on your side is a really revolutionary approach and makes the enemy feel more human than in almost any other military action game so I do applaud that. The enemies you face don't feel like faceless goons, you look at them and say how easy will it be to keep this guy alive and get him on my side. However, the caveat to this is you are funneled into using stealth weapons and gadgets that will help you knock out guards from a distance, like a sleep dart rifle or getting Quiet to knock everyone out with her own rifle since it's the easiest way and you don't have to think about it. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Can we use Dark Souls as any indication of strength for Bloodborne? It looks fine in this match but nothing spectacular And if we are to assume that Dark Souls>>>>>>>Bloodborne in strength, then yeah my Bloodborne>FFXII looks dumb --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
I'd
assume that Dark Souls is quite a bit stronger. Bloodbourne is a huge
unknown though, and Final Fantasy XII isn't the most trustworthy game
out there (although it seems to have that "stronger each year" effect
which is good for it). --- "Max... I'll always be with you. Forever..." |
Probably worth like 45% on Metroid Prime or something. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Ocarina
of Time is loved for a whole different set of reasons than its story.
It has way more of one than Mario, but Ocarina is a very gameplay-driven
experience all the same. And its popularity extends way beyond
GameFAQs, so we're way less of an outlier on that one. That's what
happens when you're one of the most influential and revolutionary games
ever made! But yeah, I think it absolutely applies to a series like MGS,
or even Final Fantasy, I just don't think it's the rule. The 'old >
new' applies more than 'story vs. non-story,' with some exceptions. It's
not a requirement to be popular here, but it explains our
disproportionate love of RPGs. It is why I don't think Dark Souls is worth that much, though, at least compared to the rest of the gaming world. --- satoru iwata (edited 11/15/2015 9:06:03 AM)report |
You know, now that I think about, I'm not sure GameFAQs even really values challenge in games! What's the most popular, MMX? --- satoru iwata |
I
think people can be more nostalgic for "experiences". Like there are
specific things you can remember and share and talk about, compared to
that one random(but awesome) thing that happen to only you in
Civilization or X-COM or Street Fighter or Quake 3 Arena. --- Communists |
Shouldnt
lttp be doing better here?? Cave story is absolute fodder. Worse than
Hearthstone. Lttp wont have a shot at oot with this performance. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
Of course it won't. Nothing does --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. (edited 11/15/2015 10:02:23 AM)report |
charmander6000 posted... Metroid Prime/Half-Life 2 is still expected to be close. A constant Demon's Souls gives Metroid Prime 52.40% which is only a small increase to what it got in 2010. A constant Morrowind would give HL2 the win at the same time. In fact, a constant Morrowind AND constant Demon's Souls projects a 54.10% victory for HL2. Of course, both games have reason to be stronger now than they were then. Remember that Skyrim was in the poll on the same day as Morrowind, so that could've helped it out a bit. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Nanis23 posted... Can we use Dark Souls as any indication of strength for Bloodborne? Bloodborne is well below demons. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
TheKoolAidShoto posted... it was like MGS5 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 4 Nah, it was actually 5 > 1 > 2 > 3 > 4 --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
transcience posted... old Nintendo is certainly the exception. you won't see a DKC2-esque game be strong today. the best comparison I can think of is like Rayman Origins and that would be awful if it made it today. Well, I'm not entirely sure DKC2 is that strong! Stronger than something like Rayman Origins or any Ratchet, Jak, or Sly Cooper game though, yeah. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Achromatic posted... 2nd match=FF 4 this much? Deus EX must be weak because of all FF games that entered the contest, FF 4 is the weakest for sure. Not sure if it would be a blowout or anything (Well, without SFF anyway), but FFXII only got 55% on friggin' Crisis Core. Crisis Core > FFIV would be too hilarious for words though. Also, keep in mind that Deus Ex was a lot (and I stress a lot) weaker in 2009 than 2010. FFT tripled Deus Ex in 2009, so who knows what this actually says about FFIV, Deus Ex, or Fallout 3. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Yuri_LowelI posted... Lttp wont have a shot at oot with this performance. It was never gonna beat OOT, but then, nothing is. --- satoru iwata |
LeonhartFour posted... TheKoolAidShoto posted...it was like MGS5 > 1 > 3 > 2 > 4 http://i.imgur.com/Frh6B4m.gif --- Communists |
Does anyone think Dark Souls will be the favourite going in next round? MGSV is about equal to 2010 CoD4 (30% on Melee), having Civ IV=Civ V gets you at 33% on FFX (with potential SFF from FFX/FFIX). Personally I would take Civilization IV over V. We could also talk about the potential of a Nintendo 64 boost. --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:LttP>CS, FFIV>DE, MGSV>PD, DS>Civilization V Points 34/40 |
It
appears Dark Souls is the favorite, but who knows how strong Civ 5 is.
I'm sure its more popular than Civ 2 since its a PC game post Steam, but
its not that strong probably. |
Dark Souls looks to be the favorite, but who knows in this crazy contest. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
ZFS posted... Yuri_LowelI posted...Lttp wont have a shot at oot with this performance. I actually worded that wrong. Of course it will never best oot. I mean indirectly it can mayve put up similar performance. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
90% is incredibly difficult to hit. Only a select few matches have ever managed it. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
IF you replace PD with Goldenye how much does MGSV Get? I don't think these new games have much strength at all. We'll see how Witcher 3 does...which at this point i'm guessing is favourite to win GOTY. |
There we go BlAcK TuRtLe posted... And I think series strength this year is: MGSV > MGS > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 11/13/2015 11:44:33 AM EST http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/72816848/836516791 |
IF you replace PD with Goldenye how much does MGSV Get? It depends where you rank Goldeneye, but Goldeneye could finish at around 60% on MGSV --- BGE3: Today's Matches LoZ:LttP>CS, FFIV>DE, MGSV>PD, DS>Civilization V Points 34/40 |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... There we go MGs4 could be the worst. I mean it's between 5 and 4 as the weakest. But yeah lol @ 5 at no.1 If that was the case then Shadow of the Colossus makes it to the Semis. |
Yuri_LowelI posted... Shouldnt lttp be doing better here?? Cave story is absolute fodder. Worse than Hearthstone. Lttp wont have a shot at oot with this performance. I'm pretty sure it was a given that lttp wouldn't beat ocarina. The mm & lttp is much more debatable, but we'll have to see majora's performance before debating that --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
LttP
would have blown out every game in GotD without even remotely breaking a
sweat, and MM wasn't even the natural strongest game in GotD (that
honor probably went to SSBB). --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
I
said it earlier, but MM/WW is more debatable than LTTP/MM. People are
reading way too much into the GOTD if they think that means MM has
surged to be a top 5 game, and the second strongest Zelda. --- satoru iwata |
I would take Cave Story>Hearthstone to be honest Even with the massive increase of indie games love, only a select few managed to get in It got in over Goat Simulator, Bastion, Braid, LIMBO, World of Goo, La Mulana, Guacamala(whatever it's spelled) Spelunky and many more I think it sold decently on the 3DS too It's a fodder, but it's still an amazing performance for ALttP --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
MM/WW isn't really debatable though. We already saw MM win that effortlessly, so by default MM/LttP is more debatable. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Forgot
about that, but I think WW would make that closer today, even then. MM
loses worse to LTTP, for sure. That wouldn't be close. --- satoru iwata (edited 11/15/2015 1:56:51 PM)report |
Does OoT SFF LttP? I feel like it would be minimal and the scores would actually be somewhat reflective of their true strengths. --- Viviff on the go! (or from the toilet) http://i.minus.com/iUSn0BlyRplGN.gif |
OoT has already SFFed LttP severely, though that was in fourways. 1v1 I'm sure it'd score some significant SFF too though. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Well,
I think OoT probably SFF'd LttP harder than it would have normally
because it was the finals and the smart Zelda fans knew the score. Same
for FFVII/FFX. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also, I feel like the most debatable Zelda/Zelda matchup is TP/Majora. The others feel like they have clear favorites. (I'm sure most people think Majora wins that one easily, but I have my doubts) --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Also, I feel like the most debatable Zelda/Zelda matchup is TP/Majora. The others feel like they have clear favorites. Eh, I don't think there's much to doubt really. Unless TP HD somehow boosts it more than you'd think. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
TP
got 47.25% on Brawl. Majora probably doesn't beat Brawl if there isn't
an anti-Brawl campaign in the final. They should be close enough to make
this debatable. But everyone wants to sell TP short for some reason. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
