redrocket_pub posted...
My point is not that you should be close-minded about a work of art, but rather if a significant number of people react negatively to a work and they all need someone else to 'correct' them about how good that work supposedly is, it's a safe bet that there is an intrinsic flaw in that art.


I guess The Shining, Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas, Psycho, etc etc are all "intrinsically flawed" then.
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Yeah I definitely had instant regret looking at my bracket and seeing I took Mario Maker over SotN...that was a bit much, but momentum is a crazy thing...maybe...sort of...? God dammit...
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To be fair, SotN could have really fallen or Mario Maker may be stronger than anyone could've imagined. Or maybe Banjo-Kazooie will be announced for Smash and will dominate the eight-pack.
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Not so bold predix: Mario Maker is going to be the weakest game in that eightpack by a significant margin.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
I struggle to see Mario Maker even being in the bottom half of that eight pack, though that's mostly because everything else besides SotN and maybe FE:A is so weak.

e: Though Xenoblade could be like SotC where all the praise for it will boost the game itself despite most people having never played it.

e2: Really though just f*** that eightpack.
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Oh, I forgot Phoenix Wright 3 was in there. It probably beats that.

That's about it.
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
No SOTC is really that highly-regarded. At the very least, during my time at unikgamer the game was ALWAYS in the top 20, and it was briefly even in the top 15.

It has always been ranked ahead of the likes of Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy X, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Metroid, and Majora's Mask there. It's for real.
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I thought BG2 was weak but when I actually checked the matches of it and Banjo, BG2 seemed more impressive on 2010 SoA than anything Banjo's been involved in. I kinda wish I went with BG2 there now.
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90.89% for OoT

May possibly hit 91% by the end.
Baldur's Gate II would probably get 35% on Super Mario Galaxy 2.

At least based on extrapolation from Skies/BG2, Mass Effect/Skies, and Mass Effect/SMG2.
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
No SOTC is really that highly-regarded. At the very least, during my time at unikgamer the game was ALWAYS in the top 20, and it was briefly even in the top 15.

It has always been ranked ahead of the likes of Final Fantasy VI, Final Fantasy X, Super Mario Bros. 3, Super Metroid, and Majora's Mask there. It's for real.


SOTC is a unique masterpiece.

I love Xenoblade but lol not even comparable. It's at best one of the best JRPG's last gen but thats as much praise as you can give it.
I see Ocarina got a 126-3 update. That's heartwarming.
If you believe Majora's Mask > Perfect Dark > Banjo-Kazooie still holds up from 2009 (minus the SFF) then you'd have to give Baldur's Gate II a half chance.
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gearofages posted...
I see Ocarina got a 126-3 update. That's heartwarming.


Thats ridiculous
Let it be known that, at 5 PM, OoT had exactly ten times as many votes as Hearthstone.
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charmander6000 posted...
If you believe Majora's Mask > Perfect Dark > Banjo-Kazooie still holds up from 2009 (minus the SFF) then you'd have to give Baldur's Gate II a half chance.


Didn't DGII get a rerelease?

so did BK and Rare replay came out too on Xbox.
Has ever been a match where the loser ended winning in USA?
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I would imagine there probably has been.

KH has at least got the lead below 900.
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Surprised no one has mentioned KH is finally making a sustained move. Down to 894 votes.
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Am I the only one who took Xenoblade to the division finals? I am banking on a boost from the new Xenoblade, which should come out right before the winner of that four pack faces off against Castlevania.
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Safer_777 posted...
Has ever been a match where the loser ended winning in USA?


Alucard VS Captain Falcon VS Rydia.

I think Cap Falcon even won in UK, Canada and Australia, but Alucard's domination in the rest of the world was so big that he still could win that match.
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Another cut... this could get interesting

Needs to cut 11 votes per update now
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cyko posted...
Am I the only one who took Xenoblade to the division finals? I am banking on a boost from the new Xenoblade, which should come out right before the winner of that four pack faces off against Castlevania.


I have it losing to SOTN.
Not_Wylvane posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
Did the kiddies finally get out of school? That was quite a turnaround. Maybe just a balancing of the last 4 updates though.


The kiddies have been in this topic arguing about MGS all day.

Seriously, take that s*** to another topic you f***ing idiots. Nobody wants to read your dumb fanboy wankfest bulls*** here.


Best post of the thread.
Crono/Vincent 2007, Crono/Sonic, Crono/Mario 2002 and 2003 (don't have data, but its almost certain), Link/Cloud 2003 (almost certainly), probably other matches involving CT.
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cyko posted...
Am I the only one who took Xenoblade to the division finals? I am banking on a boost from the new Xenoblade, which should come out right before the winner of that four pack faces off against Castlevania.


If it gets there, yeah I think it could actually win that match.

However, it has to get there first!
B-K getting to R3 might even be better than Chrono Cross to R3 just because no one gives it a chance.
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And FF9 recovers
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1337gamerpr0 posted...
cyko posted...
Am I the only one who took Xenoblade to the division finals? I am banking on a boost from the new Xenoblade, which should come out right before the winner of that four pack faces off against Castlevania.


If it gets there, yeah I think it could actually win that match.

However, it has to get there first!


which it will with absolute ease.
SotN is a game with actual strength here (yeah, it's definitely losing ground, but still). If freaking Suikoden is winning today I can't see Xenoblade pulling off the upset. Old > new is too strong here.
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pjbasis posted...
B-K getting to R3 might even be better than Chrono Cross to R3 just because no one gives it a chance.


BK is in my top 10 games of all time but No.
Link vs Cloud in 2003 had Link won in USA???
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LordoftheMorons posted...
SotN is a game with actual strength here (yeah, it's definitely losing ground, but still). If freaking Suikoden is winning today I can't see Xenoblade pulling off the upset. Old > new is too strong here.




Old is definitely tramlping over new here, But much like Final Fantasy 9, Xenoblade "feels" more like an older classic game then other RPGs from the same generation.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
SotN is a game with actual strength here (yeah, it's definitely losing ground, but still). If freaking Suikoden is winning today I can't see Xenoblade pulling off the upset. Old > new is too strong here.


Against Monster Hunter.

Monster Hunter...
cyko posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
SotN is a game with actual strength here (yeah, it's definitely losing ground, but still). If freaking Suikoden is winning today I can't see Xenoblade pulling off the upset. Old > new is too strong here.




Old is definitely tramlping over new here, But much like Final Fantasy 9, Xenoblade "feels" more like an older classic game then other RPGs from the same generation.


Undertale is pretty new. A few months infact.....

ok I went there.
Yeah but it wasn't GFAQS that gave Undertale its victory.
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Without taking two seconds to look it up and thus putting myself at risk of looking like an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised if Monster Hunter has sold more than Xenoblade
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Without taking two seconds to look it up and thus putting myself at risk of looking like an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised if Monster Hunter has sold more than Xenoblade


Every Monster Hunter game sells like 3 million in Japan. That alone is like triple Xenoblade's sales worldwide.
LordoftheMorons posted...
Without taking two seconds to look it up and thus putting myself at risk of looking like an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised if Monster Hunter has sold more than Xenoblade


In North America and Europe, the difference is not that large, only ~50k more sales for Monster Hunter.
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They're like Musou games. Mindless fun but nobody loves them except crazies
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Oxbridge posted...
LordoftheMorons posted...
Without taking two seconds to look it up and thus putting myself at risk of looking like an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised if Monster Hunter has sold more than Xenoblade


In North America and Europe, the difference is not that large, only ~50k more sales for Monster Hunter.


Based off what? Monster Hunter 4 shipped over a mill in the west, which I find it hard to believe Xenoblade is even close to. The first NPD month MH4 was at 290k.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Without taking two seconds to look it up and thus putting myself at risk of looking like an idiot, I wouldn't be surprised if Monster Hunter has sold more than Xenoblade


MH sells millions in Japan

yes (and even in the west it's true)

however, Xenoblade plays much more favorably to the users on GameFAQs
Lead back over 900.

RIP Kingdom Hearts
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pjbasis posted...
Also Monster Hunter is like, not good.

They're like Musou games. Mindless fun but nobody loves them except crazies


the thing is it's not evne mindless. Musou games you can just hack n Slash and just have ablast.

MH is slow clunky POS Grindfest.

Yes it has a ton of content and i get why people love it but it's just not for me.
Evillordexdeath posted...
Lead back over 900.

RIP Kingdom Hearts


KH will come back fighting. I think FFIX wins by 300 votes in the end.
I have FEA > DKC2

I have zero faith in any of those picks.

At least Castlevania wiping them all out seems obvious enough.
to be fair, even if you miss literally every single match on that half of the division, it's only -12 points
I can see a bracket with MH4U winning, KH winning two rounds, getting the entire XC/DKC2/FE:A/SMM four-pack wrong and having SotN losing before OoT.
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Can Zelda break 91% before time is over? So close!
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