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Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1206
MGSV
is a totally different situation from MGS4. MGS4 had all the hype in
the world, and no one said a harsh word about it initially. MGSV is not
only a lot less hyped, but people are a lot less forgiving for games
nowadays...partially BECAUSE MGS4 turned out to be such a
disappointment, actually. It made people more resistant to hype, and
MGSV is getting a very mixed reception at the moment. I think series strength is 1 > 3 > 2 > 5 = 4, and I'd be pretty confident in that. Might stick 5 at the bottom even. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. (edited 11/13/2015 8:41:06 AM)report |
yeah 5 would be weak now. i don't even think it takes GOTY ahead of Witcher. |
As much as I couldn't stand Raiden as a character, MGS2 was still the best of the series (at least until V came out). --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
And I think series strength this year is: MGSV > MGS > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 --- Like Darth Maul, the bastard child of Michael Flatley and Hellboy -trancer1 lol xstats |
Yeah,
I think characters tend to feel more alive and engrossing when they're
characters the protagonist interacts with rather than the protagonist
itself. In that sense, Snake in 2 is probably my favorite Snake --- A refusal of praise is a desire to be praised twice. |
SlugSh0t posted... Metal_DK posted...Solid Snake was in his prime as a soldier, just because you didnt play as him doesnt mean he wasnt a badass. You practically just proved everything i typed. Congrats. |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... And I think series strength this year is: MGSV > MGS > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 LOL --- Leonhart posting from his phone |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... And I think series strength this year is: MGSV > MGS > MGS2 > MGS3 > MGS4 Theres no evidence to suggest V is stronger than any of the other MGS games and 2 is definitely not stronger than 3. So you're basing it off personal opinion and not any real poll result evidence. |
Also KH still got a chance at this Go go --- Leonhart posting from his phone |
Metal_DK posted... SlugSh0t posted...Metal_DK posted...Solid Snake was in his prime as a soldier, just because you didnt play as him doesnt mean he wasnt a badass. In other words, you can't argue for s***. The fact that you hold MGS2s story so high in prestige alone tells me you have terrible taste. --- >_______________> (edited 11/13/2015 8:51:26 AM)report |
Ooof, that last update's not good. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
i didn't realise he said MGS2 had the best gameplay. LOL. |
For starters: "No, I don't want to play as a "macho tough guy". I wanted to play as the main character of the series, who is a calm and collected true soldier who during MGS1 gave actual great insight on different scenarios, and for the most part acted very rationally to everything tossed at him. " ". It pales in comparison to MGS1/MGS3 especially. As for "having to play as solid snake". No, I don't have to, and I don't hold anything due to that against MGS3/MGS5." If you want to play as the main character of the series, then this 2nd sentence is contradicting yourself. |
Januzaj_Dragon posted... i didn't realise he said MGS2 had the best gameplay. LOL. He thought people wouldn't call him out on that s***. His opinion is legit and matters /s --- >_______________> |
I'm surprised by this result too. I want to theorycraft here but I think patience probably makes more sense. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
MGS2's
gameplay is easily the best in the series. Camera is done better, first
person mode. Dog tag collecting and making sure you weren't spotted by
other guards while getting a guard's tag was a more challenging optional
element than anything in the other games. MGS3's menu based gameplay was meh. MGS4 had pretty much just parts of act 1, act 2, and the brief beginning of act 5 as good gameplay. MGS5's gameplay is proabably 2nd, but its quite a bit different from the rest of the series. MGS2 was the best overall gameplay in the series. It was prominent unlike 4, it improved 1 by adding the first person ability to interact with guards, and didn't have a bunch of menu based switching like in 3. |
MGS2
does have the best gameplay, though...at least, until MGSV came around.
MGS1 has a solid foundation, but is just too outdated. MGS3's flow is
hampered down by camo, backpack, injuries, etc. MGS4 is just not up my
alley with the customizable guns and stealth in plain sight. MGS2 is
really quick-paced and I love that style. --- The only ray of light in my life is raytan7585. when thinking of Krystal, does GMUN's pants get overcrowded? ~ GMUN |
transcience posted... I'm surprised by this result too. I want to theorycraft here but I think patience probably makes more sense. Everyone already did the theorycrafting! KH1 is probably a bit weaker now and FF9 has looked better. It's really that simple. The match was already looking close in 2010. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
has there been a GTA vs. CoD match? 1v1? I can't remember, but if we haven't I would kinda like to see that --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, Lions and Colt McCoy win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) ~User of the Year 2015~ |
Metal_DK posted... For starters: It's hilarious how you nitpicked my post to try to make yourself look like less of a failure(which is impossible at this point perhaps). Yes, given the option, I much rather have wanted to play as the main character of the series in a game that HE IS ALREADY IN, over the failure of MGS2 Raiden. Notice how I said "wanted", which perhaps to anyone else would obviously mean I was referring to MGS2 in particular. --- >_______________> (edited 11/13/2015 9:04:30 AM)report |
I'm
still not convinced KH is out of it. Squall/Sora R3 in 2008 was one of
the biggest comebacks ever in terms of adjusted votes, and the
Geolocation numbers today look somewhat similar. The discrepancy then
was somewhat more extreme, and Europe makes up more of our votes now,
but KH wouldn't even need close to that kind of push to win this match. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
SlugSh0t posted... Metal_DK posted...For starters: I'm not nitpicking. I said for starters. I then spoke about MGS2's gameplay being way better than the rest (although 5 im willing to argue as well, its just it is quite a bit different), and hell, the next post agreed with me. Hell, you claiming it is a nitpick is actually saying it was a flaw in your post yourself! You are the one sounding really defensive when i called you out on your own self contradictory post for starters. And saying "which is impossible at this point perhaps heh heh" makes you look like a damn fool son. (edited 11/13/2015 9:07:39 AM)report |
I've
been studiously avoiding spoiling myself, but I'm in tune enough to
know MGSV's reception is doing fine internet-wide, Board 8 excluded.
Given the kind of bubble this board can create as far as opinions go,
I'm inclined to err on the side of MGSV being stronger than their
assessment, in this contest at least. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
MGSV'S path is pretty set though. --- Hello, I'm Chris! https://media.giphy.com/media/2ZtIpjwFFjLHLNREpCU/giphy.gif |
Metal_DK posted... SlugSh0t posted...Metal_DK posted...For starters: It's contradictory because you misinterpreted what I posted? LOL. I am not defensive at all, and your other post was extremely condescending to anyone with a different opinion than yours. I mean saying "people who don't like mgs2 don't understand what it represents on a deeper level"? really? Or you know, it just probably maybe perhaps sucked or just wasn't as good as you think it is? --- >_______________> |
Achromatic posted... MGSV'S path is pretty set though. Well, yeah. As a matter of gauging the strength of the series, though, it's not a discussion without merit. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
It's not really set at all. It can easily lose to Dark Souls. And this isn't a Board 8 thing. The MGSV boards have pretty mixed receptions too. The internet LIKES the game but also recognizes the series flaws there - there's a lot of disappointment there too. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
It's not set at all It can lose to PERFECT DARK --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
As
far as widespread opinions on MGSV..From what I can tell it's one of
those games critics love, but players seem to think is average. MGSV is
citizen kane.. --- >_______________> (edited 11/13/2015 9:17:28 AM)report |
Or, a division Halo Call of Duty Grand Theft Auto Assassins Creed Warcraft Destiny Borderlands Minecraft The Sims League of Legends --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, Lions and Colt McCoy win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) ~User of the Year 2015~ |
SlugSh0t posted... As far as widespread opinions on MGSV..From what I can tell it's one of those games critics love, but players think is average at best. Is it the fact that the game isn't as story oriented as other games? Or the open world ness? Or something else? --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
Whiskey_Nick posted... Or, a division This would be a hilarious division outside League getting rallied --- Anime List: http://myanimelist.net/profile/superange VG List: http://myvideogamelist.com/profile/superange128 Visual Novels: https://vndb.org/u6633/votes |
SlugSh0t posted... ....., not gonna keep that block goin for length reasons I admit that usually the "you just dont understand it" argument is flawed, but in MGS2's case its absolutely true. As both DaruniaTheGoron and I have said in this very topic (in response to a guy who played it once and doesn't like heavy story in their games.....which btw again is laughable that he is playing MGS to begin with): read some good blog posts, youtube videos analyzing the game. Its message exists on multiple levels. The fact that to this day people still complain about MGS2 Raiden shows how brilliant Kojima is, and how people still do not understand the whole overlying arc of the MGS series' message. Its like Kojima is Snake. Both were in their primes in MGS2. My post was "extremely condescending"? How so? Because i spoke my mind? Because i don't use dumb phrases like "imo" everywhere when i challenge people or even just speak my mind? Its what i believe. I think that the vast majority of people who think MGS2 is the worst, or "convoluted to the point of it being dumb" don't take the time to really read into the message. (edited 11/13/2015 9:21:23 AM)report |
NowItsAngeTime posted... SlugSh0t posted...As far as widespread opinions on MGSV..From what I can tell it's one of those games critics love, but players think is average at best. Well, opinions will vary, but from posts I've seen.. Some of the biggest gripes are the lack of focus on story which overall doens't seem to be considered that great, bland overall uninspiring open world, terrible pacing, repetitive missions..to name a few.. --- >_______________> |
NowItsAngeTime posted... Whiskey_Nick posted...Or, a division yeah i guess maybe remove LoL and put in like... Forza or Battlefield --- Not changing this sig until the Bengals, Bills, Lions and Colt McCoy win the Super Bowl (10/10/10) ~User of the Year 2015~ |
Metal_DK posted... SlugSh0t posted... Dude I didn't read after the first couple lines. I won't reply directly to that. Not because I don't think that perhaps some of the things you have to say have merit, but because your opinion is too far set in stone.. Just reread your first sentence and tell me if me continuing to argue with you is going to lead anywhere. --- >_______________> (edited 11/13/2015 9:28:08 AM)report |
SlugSh0t posted... Metal_DK posted...SlugSh0t posted... You won't reply because you cant. Just like you said to me. I replied to your assessment but you are way too set in stone in your ways as well. Hell you didnt even respond to my post explaining why MGS2's gameplay is the best in the series. I ask you this. Have you ever read anything that critically analyzed MGS2? Be honest. There are quite a few good videos on youtube about it as well. I'll try to find a couple that ive watched. But ya, you playing the "your opinion is too set in stone" card is a cop out to me as well, given you have said things such as "your post is beyond saving you are an idiot" crap. (edited 11/13/2015 9:29:49 AM)report |
So I wouldn't say KH is running out of time but... it's cutting it close. --- Hello, I'm Chris! https://media.giphy.com/media/2ZtIpjwFFjLHLNREpCU/giphy.gif |
KH1 would need to buck every trend in the contest so far to win this. It could still happen, but yeah. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
can tell you're getting heated by someone thinking mgs2s story blows
huge chunks. Don't worry, I'm definitely not the only one. MGS2 is
f***ing terrible compared to MGS1 and MGS3 /the end --- >_______________> (edited 11/13/2015 9:33:15 AM)report |
SlugSh0t posted... I can tell you're getting heated by someone thinking mgs2s story blows huge chunks. Don't worry, I'm definitely not the only one. MGS2 is f***ing terrible compared to MGS1 and MGS3 /the end you are the one who got heated. I never once said things like "you can't argue for s***" and "this post is condescending wahhh wahhh" like a baby. But this is how arguments end when one has no argument. (edited 11/13/2015 9:36:43 AM)report |
MGS2s story is s*** get over it. Kojima was high as f*** at the time, why he retconned half that s*** in MGS4. /the real end --- >_______________> |
Karma Hunter posted... Man, FF9 beating KH right now is the first truly shocking result of the contest for me - and I'm counting Undertale in that. I really thought I had my finger on the pulse of the site when it came to that hierarchy but apparently FFIX still has fans or something?????????????? Reminder that Vivi beat Mario last contest. FF9 gets more popular every year as the other FF games of its era go out of vogue. |
SlugSh0t posted... MGS2s story is s*** get over it. Kojima was high as f*** at the time, why he retconned half that s*** in MGS4. /the real end is the real real end next? Man you should really love MGS4 then cuz of all its retcons, yet you ranked it last compared to the others! But you be retconnin hard (edited 11/13/2015 9:44:49 AM)report |
Metal_DK posted... SlugSh0t posted...MGS2s story is s*** get over it. Kojima was high as f*** at the time, why he retconned half that s*** in MGS4. /the real end MGS4 story > MGS2 story that's for f***ing sure. Kojima had to shine that turd known as MGS2s story really f***ing hard with retcons to keep the overall story somewhat respectable in MGS4. But again, like I said, he was high as f***, so he still my boy. /the end...in 3d --- >_______________> |
Hey guys, I have a doubt. According to these polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4086-east-division-round-1-warcraft-iii-vs-morrowind http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/6077-best-game-ever-day-7-metroid-prime-vs-morrowind http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4167-northeast-division-round-3-metroid-prime-vs-okami ...What does lol x-stats say about Okami vs. Warcraft III today? --- Wild raytan appeared! He chose Samus > Mario. It's... super effective? |
SlugSh0t posted... Metal_DK posted...SlugSh0t posted...MGS2s story is s*** get over it. Kojima was high as f*** at the time, why he retconned half that s*** in MGS4. /the real end can i get a 3d IMAX ending please? |
Advokaiser posted... ...What does lol x-stats say about Okami vs. Warcraft III today? Warcraft 3 is predicted to get 37.84% in this match. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
goddamnit KH well now I hope Undertale wrecks everyone's bracket --- Communists |
I came back after a few hours. KH isn't still winning? USA is awake now right? Where are the kiddies? --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |