The Owner of FF9 posted...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wah7AGkkzl4

Get f***ing hype


Oh my god
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"Cloud" is currently the #3 trend on Twitter in the United States, #2 Worldwide.

I vote Link vs Cloud as the bonus match for this contest. Might be the first not-insanely-rallied match that Link could lose since 2003.
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Twilight Princess HD is also trending worldwide on Twitter.
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TheOneAboveAll posted...

I vote Link vs Cloud as the bonus match for this contest. Might be the first not-insanely-rallied match that Link could lose since 2003.


I would support this.
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That Youtube video has over 25K hits in less than an hour since it was uploaded. FFVII is making the final. And it's going to be an amazing match.
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I picked FFVI over FFVII

"whoops"
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This is f***ing crazy.
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just waiting for that magical day where they announce crono in smash

on the day/eve of mario/crono
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You know what... Pokémon still got dis s*** on lockdown.
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xp1337 posted...
just waiting for that magical day where they announce crono in smash

on the day/eve of mario/crono


That happens and Sephiroth is the only NN member not in Smash.

lol
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/board8/images/2/2d/Thenoblenineedit.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20090612204047

Two more, Nintendo. Two more.

-edit-
Scratch that, three. Forgot Snake didn't come back for Smash 4. Come on, Nintendo.
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LeonhartFour posted...
I imagine if round 2 is user pics, everyone will be putting Cloud in their Smash 4 pics.


Awww yeah. Smash pics with Mega Man, Ryu, and Cloud.
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11/12/2015 4:51:50 PM#413
And in Round 3, we'll have Link vs Cloud Smash pics.
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Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest!
Who is the hypothetical person that was going to vote for Link, but says "oh, now that Cloud is in Smash I'm going to vote against the king of Nintendo (who is also in Smash)"

(that person doesn't exist).

For now, this announcement helps Cloud with Nintendo voters against non-Nintendo (or maybe weak Nintendo). Maybe a year after he's been in Smash some people who loved Link before will come to prefer Cloud, but that's not going to happen off of the announcement.
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Who is the hypothetical person that was going to vote for Link, but says "oh, now that Cloud is in Smash I'm going to vote against the king of Nintendo (who is also in Smash)"

(that person doesn't exist).

For now, this announcement helps Cloud with Nintendo voters against non-Nintendo (or maybe weak Nintendo). Maybe a year after he's been in Smash some people who loved Link before will come to prefer Cloud, but that's not going to happen off of the announcement.


Yea. I think this is all a little much.
On the other hand, I think we can expect that roughly 60% of Cloud's fanbase just switched to Link from this announcement.

the king just gets stronger
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
So, that Brawl vs Melee pic.

Out goes Sandbag, in goes Cloud.
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Future 2015 Guru Contest winner.
That's dumb.

Cloud just got exposure to a new audience. Not everyone who voted Link is a huge Zelda fanboy who can't be swayed.

A lot of voters who played both Zelda and FFVII and feel similarly about them might also vote Cloud in the excitement.

There aren't just the extremes here. Cloud only needs to swing like 3%
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LongLiveraytan
It makes no sense for Link to SFF Cloud. But it allowed Cloud a boost against non-Nintendo characters! Seriously though, Smash 4 had the chance to pull a cool upset here and the only game that wont work against is the one it faces. Christ.
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Cloud in smash will surely give him a huge boost. maybe not enough to beat Link but FFVII: Remake and KH3 will eventually propel him to the #1 spot.
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Snake didn't get SFFed by Link after his announcement in Brawl, so Cloud won't get SFFed either.
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It makes no sense at all for Link to beat Cloud worse. At best, Link can retain almost all of his support against Cloud, and Cloud just gets a very small boost directly against the king. But that didn't happen for Snake, who got a huge boost that held up even in direct matches with Link, and that seems more likely to me.
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Snake's boost put him a lot closer to Link.
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11/12/2015 6:54:47 PM#424
I say do Cloud vs. Santa Claus for the bonus poll
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ROUND 1 – DAY 9 – TOP OF DIVISION 5

Match XXXIII: (1) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time vs. (16) Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft

Previous Performance

The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time – 2009
53.79% against Final Fantasy IX, Half-Life, Chrono Cross
49.36% against Final Fantasy VIII, Starcraft, Final Fantasy IX
38.70% against Pokemon RBY, Metal Gear Solid, Final Fantasy VIII
40.76% against Final Fantasy X, Pokemon RBY, Super Smash Bros. Melee
41.02% against Final Fantasy X, Metal Gear Solid 4, Super Smash Bros. Brawl
40.39% against Final Fantasy VII, LoZ: A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy X

Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft – N/A
N/A

Analysis

I’ve joked in the past that this match was like a final. Hearthstone is probably the most League of Legend-like game in terms of rallying. We saw Undertale comeback using tumblr, but even if Hearthstone gets a rally it is going to have a lot more problems than Undertale had.

Firstly Ocarina of Time is a lot harder to rally against and is the type of game that would do well in any contest situation across the gaming world. Second Hearthstone will have a bigger gap to close. In a normal match Hearthstone is quite weak, we’re talking about the game getting clearly under 20% and potentially suffering the blowout of the round. Hearthstone would almost need to triple the rally Undertale had, most likely having to start at around the beginning of the match.

Hearthstone’s biggest advantage would be that this is the first round and the game could catch Zelda fans off-guard, but given Undertale has made itself known the element of surprise may not be as surprising. My prediction is based on if there was no rallying.

charmander6000’s Bracket: LoZ: Ocarina of Time > Hearthstone

charmander6000’s Prediction: LoZ: Ocarina of Time wins, 82.55% - 17.45%



Match XXXIV: (8) Suikoden II vs. (9) Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

Previous Performance

Suikoden II – 2004
14.37% against Final Fantasy VII

Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate – N/A
N/A

Analysis

This is this contest’s ultimate fodder match. To be honest I just went with the top option. The last time we saw Suikoden II was back in 2004 where it got thoroughly crushed by Final Fantasy VII. In the 2009 its predecessor was similarly crushed by Final Fantasy VII.

Monster Hunter is an unknown quantity which made it easier for some people to choose it because it could have strength or at least enough to defeat Suikoden II. For the people that play the series Monster Hunter is quite popular, but to the ones which have not, they may not have ever heard of the game.

Given the age and tastes of the site I am going to bet that they have heard of Suikoden a bit more, but honestly Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate may come in and easily win the match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Suikoden II > Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate

charmander6000’s Prediction: Suikoden II wins, 51.02% - 48.98%
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Points 24/28
Match XXXV: (5) Okami vs. (12) Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos

Previous Performance

Okami – 2010
71.41% against No More Heroes
56.31% against Mega Man 9
41.84% against Metroid Prime

Warcraft III: Reign of Chaos – 2010
49.55% against The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

Analysis

Okami and Amaterasu has been one of those things that has strength which goes against all logic. It’s not Nintendo or Square or is it a big release where it would be strong anywhere. There’s always talked on whether if Okami will be forgotten given it has had nothing for a long time. Amaterasu did pretty well in 2013 by getting 38% on Squall so I am going to bet the game largely still has strength.

Warcraft III isn’t complete fodder either, it went even with Morrowind whom had an okay performance against Metroid Prime. There is also the possibility that should Hearthstone get a rally Warcraft III would be the most to benefit from the influx of voters so potentially it could win this match.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Okami > Warcraft III

charmander6000’s Prediction: Okami wins, 58.72% - 41.28%



Match XXXVI: (4) Final Fantasy IX vs. (13) Kingdom Hearts

Previous Performance

Final Fantasy IX – 2010
75.19% against Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations
68.87% against Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 3
53.07% against Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
36.93% against Final Fantasy X

Kingdom Hearts – 2010
76.90% against Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow
66.31% against Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
47.58% against Kingdom Hearts II

Analysis

This match is effectively a three-point match given that the winner here will likely defeat Okami. While I have Final Fantasy IX in my bracket I no longer have faith that it could win. If you take the raw stats from 2010 Kingdom Hearts had the higher ranking, but I thought SFF would be able to make up the difference. Now I’m not so sure if FFIX suffered much SFF against FFX. This is mostly from the performances from Persona 3 and KotOR, but it is also looking at the type of games FFIX would be hanging around and I just don’t see it having that kind of strength.

The other thing I was betting on was that Kingdom Hearts would be a bit weaker this year compared to 2010. Kingdom Hearts II looked pretty good earlier this round and while MGS4 could supposedly have dropped even more than it already has sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. Regardless the match should still be pretty close, just that I now think Kingdom Hearts will be the game to finish on top.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy IX > Kingdom Hearts

charmander6000’s Prediction: Kingdom Hearts wins 52.43% - 47.57%
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charmander6000 posted...
41.84% against Metroid Prime


What the f***?

Alright, I take everything I said about Okami being fodder back. Didn't know those were the kind of numbers it was putting up.
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I always underestimate Okami.
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What are people's thoughts on Fallout 3 winning the contest after it gets counter-rallied to victory over Undertale?
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11/12/2015 7:40:06 PM#430
That's just replacing one evil with another. It's not like the problem is Undertale is a bad game. The problem is rally sucks and even screws with the other matches that share the same day.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...
That's just replacing one evil with another. It's not like the problem is Undertale is a bad game. The problem is rally sucks and even screws with the other matches that share the same day.


Yep yep yep
This mutlipoll format (as many advantages as it has) really makes the rallies have a worse impact.
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Undertale stealing the contest at least has some impish appeal of watching a complete underdog cut a bloody swathe through a series of hype beasts.

Fallout 3 doing the same doesn't seem as fun to me.
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I'd have no problem with Fallout 3 being named Best Game Ever. It's close enough as is!
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Fallout 3 will at least let me spout Liberty Prime memes so I guess that's better than some outcomes.

in fact unless undertale just wrecks from the start i'll probably be doing that

i apologize in advance
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xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?
I come home to THAT news?!

Screw making the final, FF7 has a real chance of winning this contest. People always whine about Final Fantasy always winning, but voters know full well Zelda always wins. Ocarina WILL get anti-voted in the final.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
I come home to THAT news?!

Screw making the final, FF7 has a real chance of winning this contest. People always whine about Final Fantasy always winning, but voters know full well Zelda always wins. Ocarina WILL get anti-voted in the final.


dude calm down, that's not happening.
It's more likely Sm4sh will reverse SFF FF7 than FF7 beating OoT.

Of course most likely option is FF7 not reaching OoT but hey.
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Well, crap. One bracket I have FF7 losing to FF6, and the other I have it losing to Melee. So much for either of those. It's about time something goes FF7's way.

Oh, and few mentioned disappointment in Mario 64... but 80% on Mario Kart 8 is pretty dang solid. It's definitely stronger than Mario Kart DS which Brawl beat with 83% (8 is newer now than MKDS was in Game of the Decade, and it's on a console),
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http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3509-contest-bonus-final-fantasy-vii-vs-zelda-ocarina-of-time

You really think a Smash announcement can't turn that around? Look at what happened to Snake the second he got into Smash.
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"F*** Draven." -SBAllen
11/12/2015 8:49:35 PM#440
yeah I remember when MGS1 became the most popular game on the site
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UltimaterializerX posted...
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3509-contest-bonus-final-fantasy-vii-vs-zelda-ocarina-of-time

You really think a Smash announcement can't turn that around? Look at what happened to Snake the second he got into Smash.


That FF7 is certainly not the one we've seen in more recent years. See vs. FF6, Squirtle, Phoenix f***ing Wright.
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wouldn't it be hilarious if the Cloud trailer just boosted Smash 4 hype to heaven and it beat FF7

I love that Smash 4 and FF7 are actually going to face off
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11/12/2015 8:53:05 PM#443
I want Cloud vs. Cloud for the match pic
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wouldn't it be hilarious if the Cloud trailer just boosted Smash 4 hype to heaven and it beat FF7

I love that Smash 4 and FF7 are actually going to face off


!!!
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Bacon is prescient

not as good as this guy though https://twitter.com/CASHAMILL/status/78163126826188800
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xyzzy
11/12/2015 8:55:43 PM#446
4 years in advance

that must be pjbasis's uncle
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Didn't read anything yet.

Is Cloud the #2 character on the site yet?
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...
Didn't read anything yet.

Is Cloud the #2 character on the site yet?


He is now.

With Draven still #1.
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11/12/2015 9:00:44 PM#449
Whoa, P4 had more brackets than TP or Mario 64.

FFT was barely the favorite.
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11/12/2015 9:01:05 PM#450
KH1 already in the lead

bad news for FFIX
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