GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1199
KamikazePotato posted... To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB Got it. I was originally just putting both games poll percentages into the x-stat calculator on gamefaqscontests. Thanks! --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. (edited 11/9/2015 10:34:47 AM)report |
No problem! Anyway, I don't really think there's SFF in this match. The games that Tetris showed a significant overlap with in the Games Contests its been in were Pac-Man, LoZ1, And SMB1. The super classic games that embody an entire series and era in their title alone. I don't think RBY really fits that bill. It's not the result RBY backers wanted, and I would give SMB3 the edge going into Round 2, but I think this match is more about validating Tetris than anything else. As seen with Xenogears in Chrono Cross, games can actually look good if they don't have to run into an SFF buzzsaw at the end of their path for once! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Do
we know what Allen is doing for r2 pictures yet? I'm hoping he accepts
user-made pics for round 2; i have some really good ideas for both
games. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Also,
it's worth noting that this match isn't that great for SMB3 either.
Chrono Trigger is just looking straight-up better than it at the moment. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I'd
honestly pick AoE II over Ratchet & Clank. If you peg SMB3 and CT
at the same strength rn then AoEII wins with 57.2% of the vote. I
personally think AoE II can do better than that but I'm also biased
because AoE II is one of my favorite RTS games. Of course when it comes to fodder anything can happen. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Maybe Ratchet and Clank is just weak --- BGE3: Today's Matches SMB3>AoEII, Pokemon RBYG>Tetris, Sonic 2>Portal 2, Unchated 2>TWD Points 13/16 |
I
mean, Up Your Arsenal was in GotD and it wasn't even close to being
that weak then. It's probably dropped since then but I would still never
take AoE2 over it, not in a million years. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
transcience posted... where did this "nobody picked Pokemon without expecting a rally" idea come from? it feels like revisionist history to me. people have talked up RBY for years as just being a monster. those 2009 results weren't rallying. Yeah, I wasn't picking Pokemon based on its rally potential. I think the only place people would half expect Pokemon to get a rally is against FFVII. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also
it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad
fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially
year over year. Vyse went from 20% on Cloud to 20% on Tifa in the span of a year. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
ZeldaTPLink posted... The studio that made Age games broke, iirc There's also going to be an official update for AoE2, adding African empires. This is in addition to the unofficial expansion with India/Slavs. --- Every day the rest of your life is changed forever. |
whatisurnameplz posted... I'd honestly pick AoE II over Ratchet & Clank. If you peg SMB3 and CT at the same strength rn then AoEII wins with 57.2% of the vote. I personally think AoE II can do better than that but I'm also biased because AoE II is one of my favorite RTS games. When its just fodder I'd usually pick the non-PC game. I maybe forgetting but Half-life 2 seems to be the only PC game with decent strength. |
charmander6000 posted... I'm not so sure, Pokemon was the favourite to get first over Majora's Mask and about equal to finishing first against Metal Gear Solid in 2009. Eh, I wouldn't take that to mean anything. Casuals always got confused about how "order matters" when picking winners in 4-ways. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Also,
for the record, if Portal 1 = Portal 2, Melee gets 66.07% on Sonic 2.
That's pretty close to what FFVI got on Sonic 2 in 2009. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
spooky96 posted... whatisurnameplz posted...I'd honestly pick AoE II over Ratchet & Clank. If you peg SMB3 and CT at the same strength rn then AoEII wins with 57.2% of the vote. I personally think AoE II can do better than that but I'm also biased because AoE II is one of my favorite RTS games. StarCraft? Diablo II? Although the last time we saw D2 in a contest it finished with 47% on...Metal Gear Solid 4. So I guess it wins now? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
LeonhartFour posted... Also, for the record, if Portal 1 = Portal 2, Melee gets 66.07% on Sonic 2. That's pretty close to what FFVI got on Sonic 2 in 2009. And it would probably be higher directly due to SFF. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Maybe that random boost that Ratchet got in 2010 has finally worn off. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Also Earthbound to beat Borderlands 2 right guys? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
LeonhartFour posted... Also it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially year over year. Yeah, characters amd games just have a limit of percentage they just wont break no matter who the opponent. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. (edited 11/9/2015 11:00:55 AM)report |
Characters =/= Games LinkMarioSamus posted... LeonhartFour posted...Also, for the record, if Portal 1 = Portal 2, Melee gets 66.07% on Sonic 2. That's pretty close to what FFVI got on Sonic 2 in 2009. do you even pay attention to what you post or what other people post --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LinkMarioSamus posted... Also list of games that have beaten an older game: Paper mario doesnt count. It literally came out 4 months after tos. List should be narrowed down to generational times. I wonder how long that will be by the end of the tournament. More so how many 2000 games will beat games from the 90's --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
ctesjbuvf posted... LeonhartFour posted...Also it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially year over year. This has never been true. For one thing, Vyse has won a match before. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
think a list of games made post PS2/GC/Xbox generation defeating older
games will be a better representation of newer games performing poorly. --- BGE3: Today's Matches SMB3>AoEII, Pokemon RBYG>Tetris, Sonic 2>Portal 2, Unchated 2>TWD Points 13/16 |
Well,
there's no such thing as a vote ceiling or a vote floor, but I'm not
making snap judgments based on CT or FFVII's blowouts. All it tells me
is "these games are really strong." --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
KamikazePotato posted... ctesjbuvf posted...LeonhartFour posted...Also it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially year over year. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5210-character-battle-ix-division-8-round-1-amaterasu-vs-vyse-vs 20% !!!! --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
Yuri_LowelI posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...Also list of games that have beaten an older game: I'm just going on a technicality! Feel free to take these results however you want them. The old > new trend predicts all the expected results tomorrow. Said trend also predicts a R1 loss for Skyrim. Obviously Skyrim isn't jobbing to Phoenix Wright, but the pressure's on for it to prove that newer games can be worth something. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
KamikazePotato posted... ctesjbuvf posted...LeonhartFour posted...Also it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially year over year. Oh, sorry for not making it clear, but I meant the other way around. Cloud is not gonna get much more than that no matter who he faces. --- My old signature was really outdated. I haven't thought of a proper new one yet. |
ctesjbuvf posted... Oh, sorry for not making it clear, but I meant the other way around. Cloud is not gonna get much more than that no matter who he faces. Cloud got a lot more than that against CATS in 2003! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
charmander6000 posted... I think a list of games made post PS2/GC/Xbox generation defeating older games will be a better representation of newer games performing poorly. Hey it's already a 14-6 record in favor of the older game winning! You want to make the newer guys look even worse? Smash Wii U > Torment is literally the only such result so far. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
ctesjbuvf posted... KamikazePotato posted...ctesjbuvf posted...LeonhartFour posted...Also it's not always a great idea to base strength on beatdowns of bad fodder. We've seen that turbo fodder isn't always transitive, especially year over year. Also Tifa is seriously weird. Does better against Samus than Snake in '06, and does well in a contest where Cloud loses to Squirtle. Though that reminds me how hilariously soft Samus's path to the finals was - her biggest competition being an FFVII character and a character even more neglected than she is (seriously, at least Samus is still in games!). So is she still really strong or did she just get lucky? Part of me wouldn't be surprised if Link and Mario have declined faster (the former due to his series rapidly losing relevance and the latter due to Nintendo being clueless). --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Also Tifa is seriously weird. Does better against Samus than Snake in '06, and does well in a contest where Cloud loses to Squirtle. I'm gonna throw out a bomb here, and say that I feel there's a lot of low-level xenophobia in the FFVII/JRPG backlash, and as a "hot chick" Tifa's immune to most of that. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! |
Well, Tifa/Samus 2006 is easily explainable because that was the infamous Zero Suit pic. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... Well, Tifa/Samus 2006 is easily explainable because that was the infamous Zero Suit pic. And Samus/Tifa being so close again in CBIX? --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
I mean, we're talking about Tifa scoring a percent worse on Samus than Mega Man did. Though my personal theory is Tifa being a convenient foil against Samus due to the roles they occupy. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
LOLContests posted... Also Tifa is seriously weird. Does better against Samus than Snake in '06, and does well in a contest where Cloud loses to Squirtle. Voters are seriously thinking "she's from this game I don't want to support but she's hot so I'll vote for her anyway". Amazing. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/9/2015 11:28:13 AM)report |
that wacky Tetris piece...? Well, I do buy there being some validity into the "Tifa is hot" theory helping her out, even as the rest of FFVII seemingly got weaker. She was the big video game crush of a lot of prepubescent teens in 1997. It's a weird form of nostalgia, but I don't discount the idea. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... I mean, we're talking about Tifa scoring a percent worse on Samus than Mega Man did. Though my personal theory is Tifa being a convenient foil against Samus due to the roles they occupy. I understand but I don't get why Tifa is supposed to be a foil for Samus. Also for all we know Samus pulled some kind of Smash SFF on Mega Man just like she did against Snake in '06. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
any result from last year should just be thrown in the trash anyway tbqh --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
LeonhartFour posted... that wacky Tetris piece...? Oh man. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
The Mana Sword posted... any result from last year should just be thrown in the trash anyway tbqh considering we had no results last year yeah --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
you
know I wasn't going to edit it because I figured we could all get
through this without making a joke because you all knew what I meant I GUESS NOT --- http://i.imgur.com/RHvCiY3.png |
Samus
didn't score any silly 'Smash SFF' on Snake. She was stronger in 2006.
To the tune of being able to score around 53-54% on him. Snake creamed her in CBIX because he was stronger. To the tune of being able to score around 46-47% on Link. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
The Mana Sword posted... any result from last year should just be thrown in the trash anyway tbqh You're probably right about this. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I'd agree with there being some kind of weird female gaming icon factor. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1749-chaos-division-round-1-samus-aran-vs-lara-croft Lara Croft has never looked nearly that bad before or since. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
The Mana Sword posted... you know I wasn't going to edit it because I figured we could all get through this without making a joke because you all knew what I meant that was your first mistake --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I agree that FFVI > FFVII should be thrown in the trash. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. |
AxemRedRanger posted... I'd agree with there being some kind of weird female gaming icon factor. Funny thing is, Tomb Raider is a relevant series again while Metroid...oh boy. Samus's position in the Noble Nine is probably secure just because it's not like Mega Man, Sonic, Crono, or the FFVII crew are all that relevant today either. Heck not like Mario, Link, and Snake are much better. Of course lol Noble Nine, etc. etc. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Karma Hunter posted... Samus didn't score any silly 'Smash SFF' on Snake. She was stronger in 2006. To the tune of being able to score around 53-54% on him. You're probably right. Now that MGS is done Snake should no longer increase in strength. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
In a fair fight Samus definitely does better against Snake than the 2013 finale shows. She still loses though. --- Ctesjbuvf posting on his phone. |
