Final Fantasy VI is not as good as Sonic games but the rest is true
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LeonhartFour posted...
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel about Sonic 2/Uncharted 2 next round (assuming this holds).

I feel like I'd take UC2 > Portal 2 at this point.

i originally had UC2 winning in round 2 until i saw NOBODY was taking this
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UberPyro64 posted...
MasterOfHunters posted...
UberPyro64 posted...
Sonic 2 is probably the best game of the Genesis. But also pales to the entire top 10 of the SNES.

Also time for Portal 2 to turn this around.


This is a ridiculous statement.


DKC1, DKC2, Super Mario World, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI, Mega Man X.


I think consensus is probably Sonic 2 > DKC1/2 in terms of quality. Definitely >DKC1. But SNES can throw out Earthbound, the Mana games, and prbly others I can't think of. Mario Kart?
pjbasis posted...
Final Fantasy VI is not as good as Sonic games but the rest is true


Hahaha you are the best comedian.
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11/8/2015 10:14:06 PM#205
Yesterday's charts:

Time | Smash 4 | Planescape | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 80.71% | 19.29% | 560 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 79.84% | 20.16% | 3646 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 77.74% | 22.26% | 7946 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 76.31% | 23.69% | 4200 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 80.03% | 19.97% | 10022 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 79.59% | 20.41% | 9379 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 81.29% | 18.71% | 1855 | (22:00-24:00)

At least Smash hasn't given up on wacky shifts and trends! First Melee, and now Smash 4. Smash is definitely still much stronger during the day than at night, even on the weekend.

Time | SMG2 | ME1 | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 58.33% | 41.67% | 564 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 53.61% | 46.39% | 3652 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 48.93% | 51.07% | 8081 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 48.90% | 51.10% | 4309 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 49.69% | 50.31% | 10236 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 47.19% | 52.81% | 9561 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 49.47% | 50.53% | 1880 | (22:00-24:00)

Mario with the strong Power Hour, but Mass Effect takes over after that. Mario once again looks a little stronger toward the end of the match, like with TTYD. Might be something worth keeping an eye on if we get a close match with Mario! n_n

Time | Minecraft | Halo | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 45.65% | 54.35% | 552 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 44.21% | 55.79% | 3601 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 44.61% | 55.39% | 7835 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 44.99% | 55.01% | 4188 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 43.03% | 56.97% | 9935 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 42.00% | 58.00% | 9309 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 39.81% | 60.19% | 1831 | (22:00-24:00)

Halo showing off some day vote power here, too! It gradually gets better against Minecraft as the match goes along and actually pushed 60% for the last stretch of the match.

Time | FFVII | Journey | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 83.78% | 16.22% | 561 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 83.01% | 16.99% | 3650 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 84.78% | 15.22% | 8087 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 83.67% | 16.33% | 4293 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 83.89% | 16.11% | 10153 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 84.33% | 15.67% | 9513 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 83.57% | 16.43% | 1863 | (22:00-24:00)

It's weird seeing FFVII so stable! It was noticeably stronger at night but it had a pretty good day vote, too! Welcome back, Cloud!
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LeonhartFour posted...

What reason does Tetris have to shift in strength notably one way or the other though? That game is as close to ubiquitous as it gets.


It's quite niche, but the Tetris the Grand Master exhibitions at the latest Games Done Quicks might have boosted it a bit.
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s*** I forgot EarthBound.

Okay so Sonic is like 12th then.
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Some thoughts

1. I expected Pokemon to get around 70% on Tetris. Tetris is a classic that has stood the test of time and Pokemon is not good at SFFing. We haven't really seen it in a real 1v1 setting since 11 years ago when Zelda clearly SFFed it. Tetris is going to get votes.
2. I thought some people were calling for Mario to win with close to 90%? I mean Tetris has way more strength than AoE, we'd all agree on that.
3. I don't think this Portal match is over. We're well past the bracket vote stage and it's still close and I think it'll have a better night vote to keep it in the match. And maybe Sonic has that casual bracket vote from people who don't log on right at 12 to vote. Gut feel is Sonic wins though.
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11/8/2015 10:15:39 PM#209
Sonic 2 is a pretty good Sonic game. There are probably 10+ SNES games better than it though.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles, on the other hand, can go toe to toe with any SNES game.
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Looks like I have 3 Sonics and 1 Portal for today, so we'll see how they go. Still doing the best on my official bracket overall.
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UberPyro64 posted...
MasterOfHunters posted...
UberPyro64 posted...
Sonic 2 is probably the best game of the Genesis. But also pales to the entire top 10 of the SNES.

Also time for Portal 2 to turn this around.


This is a ridiculous statement.


DKC1, DKC2, Super Mario World, Super Mario RPG, Yoshi's Island, A Link to the Past, Super Metroid, Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy VI, Mega Man X.


Wait, I deleted my comment thinking you were talking about contest strength. Surely no one can believe the snes library is that much better. Meh, rpg/nintendofaqs.
Man, I did not expect the most shocking result to come with Pokemon tonight.

I'm feeling really good about my SMB3 > RBY pick, inasmuch as I can feel good about any of my bracket's ridiculous upsets.
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I'm not sure Sonic is like even in my top 5 Megadrive games but I can't think of how much much nostalgia goggles I'm applying to some of the games...
LeonhartFour posted...
At least Smash hasn't given up on wacky shifts and trends! First Melee, and now Smash 4. Smash is definitely still much stronger during the day than at night, even on the weekend.


Smash 4 seemed to have a better day vote than Melee. Melee didn't really start going up noticeably until after the Europeans started going to sleep.
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11/8/2015 10:19:57 PM#215
Also, I am saving all trend charts on the Google spreadsheet as we go along, in case anyone wants to look back on previous matches.
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
UItimaterializer posted...
DaruniaTheGoron posted...
People only argue with you because you are loud about it. Stop with the "f*** the haters" bulls***. You're not a rebel. You're on a goddamn stats thread. About video game polls.


Right, because liking video games obviously means I'm some fat neckbeard loser in a basement. I can't possibly have a marriage of 10+ years or a house or a good career going, nope.

I say f*** the haters because that's what they deserve. Not that people disagreeing about a poll are haters, that's all in good fun, but people who come at me sideways and make it personal like BT or Corrik really can go f*** themselves. Pretty obvious they're just miserable children with no future who want everyone else to also be miserable children with no future. They'd fit in well voting Democrat.


When did I say anything about your career or personal life, or even come close to implying anything about it? I mean I'm here too so....

I'm saying posturing on a board about video game polls is obnoxious. That's it. And you draw attention from the likes of BT and Corrik because of that, and your way of responding to them is to be even MORE obnoxious.


I just throw them on ignore now. Unfortunately CJayC was a dumbass and catered his entire site to trolls; Allen had to come in and fix it all by actually bringing this place up to the year 2010.
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wait is there a link to all the trend charts so far this contest?
11/8/2015 10:21:34 PM#218
LeonhartFour posted...
~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0


It's in the opening post.

Nobody ever reads the thing anymore, so I can see why you'd miss it.
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You know, at first I didn't think one should try and get too much out of a match with Tetris, since the LoZ vs. Tetris match was literally over a decade ago.

But I can't help feel that SMW and Mario 64 (and probably Mario 3) would be doing better than 69% against Tetris (and perhaps dropping).
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The SNES library in definitely better than the Genesis library.

Like if we did a top 25 games of the 4th generation (and we didn't count PC) we'd probably have like 7 Genesis games but like 18 SNES games. Maybe I'm being a little overboard with that number but still the SNES is king.

PS1/N64 era would probably be more even then that.
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Sonic is really strong in South America

It will do well during the day
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11/8/2015 10:25:27 PM#222
Almost a 100 vote lead now.
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Yay lead back on the rise
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thanks for the spreadsheet

-LusterSoldier- posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
At least Smash hasn't given up on wacky shifts and trends! First Melee, and now Smash 4. Smash is definitely still much stronger during the day than at night, even on the weekend.


Smash 4 seemed to have a better day vote than Melee. Melee didn't really start going up noticeably until after the Europeans started going to sleep.


so looking at Melee's trends, it had a ridiculous power hour compared to Smash 4, that's why it kept bleeding percentage longer, but the day vote swing was pretty similar
creativename posted...
You know, at first I didn't think one should try and get too much out of a match with Tetris, since the LoZ vs. Tetris match was literally over a decade ago.

But I can't help feel that SMW and Mario 64 (and probably Mario 3) would be doing better than 69% against Tetris (and perhaps dropping).


The only bonus I can think Tetris may get is that you can get it on your phone now. Some even come with it pre-installed. That wasn't the case a decade ago.

I wonder if lower votals would also cater to Tetris.

Either way, it's still looking pretty awful for Pokemon right now.
11/8/2015 10:30:45 PM#226
LeonhartFour posted...
Sonic 2 is a pretty good Sonic game. There are probably 10+ SNES games better than it though.

Sonic 3 & Knuckles, on the other hand, can go toe to toe with any SNES game.


No it cant. And streets of rage and golden axe are far superior megadrive games for me. Sonic is vastly overrated except the original on megadrive.
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There was totally Tetris on phones 10 years ago. Never seen it preinstalled.
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The latest phone that I got didn't have it pre-installed. The one before that did though. Same deal with my wife's phone.
11/8/2015 10:40:44 PM#230
57% update for Sonic 2 there
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Does Portal 2 have any chance? I feel I made a terrible pick...
Tetris did hold SMB1 to just under 70% in 4-ways, but that match also had LoZ. SMB/LoZ clearly overlap more with each other than they do with Tetris. But, being the 3rd place in 4-ways can be really damaging. So as usual with 4-ways it doesn't tell us much.

ShatteredElysium posted...
The latest phone that I got didn't have it pre-installed. The one before that did though. Same deal with my wife's phone.

Definitely never heard of this. What phones/OS? Anyway I find it hard to imagine that's an actual factor.
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11/8/2015 10:44:34 PM#233
handsomeboy2012 posted...
Does Portal 2 have any chance? I feel I made a terrible pick...


It's not totally over, but it's not looking good.
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creativename posted...
Tetris did hold SMB1 to just under 70% in 4-ways, but that match also had LoZ. SMB/LoZ clearly overlap more with each other than they do with Tetris. But, being the 3rd place in 4-ways can be really damaging. So as usual with 4-ways it doesn't tell us much.

ShatteredElysium posted...
The latest phone that I got didn't have it pre-installed. The one before that did though. Same deal with my wife's phone.

Definitely never heard of this. What phones/OS? Anyway I find it hard to imagine that's an actual factor.


Was on my HTC One M7 and my wife's Galaxy S2 so both android. Both were with different providers too (T-mobile and Virgin)

When I got my S6 edge and my wife got an LG G4 neither had it on. (Those were with Verizon)
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My god Portal really fell off
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handsomeboy2012 posted...
Does Portal 2 have any chance? I feel I made a terrible pick...


You aren't alone, and there was plenty of reason to think Portal would win. Portal 2 was the favored guru pick to make it to round 3 after all.
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creativename posted...
Tetris did hold SMB1 to just under 70% in 4-ways, but that match also had LoZ. SMB/LoZ clearly overlap more with each other than they do with Tetris. But, being the 3rd place in 4-ways can be really damaging. So as usual with 4-ways it doesn't tell us much.


If you just assume that every match Tetris had with LoZ 1 involved SFF and throw them out, then things look a bit better. Puts RBY at around 73% on Mega Man 2.
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11/8/2015 11:07:35 PM#238
Sonic 2 is rolling now. It's probably gonna win with 53-54% at this rate.
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Does "snoic" have an origin or was that, like, always a thing?
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11/8/2015 11:09:04 PM#240
creativename posted...
Does "snoic" have an origin or was that, like, always a thing?


That was a Surfing Vaporeon thing. He did that with lots of characters, but most famously SNOIC and SMAUS.
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Here's my explanation for Tetris. I call it TWEFYAF, aka that was eleven f***ing years ago factor.
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LeonhartFour posted...
creativename posted...
Does "snoic" have an origin or was that, like, always a thing?


That was a Surfing Vaporeon thing. He did that with lots of characters, but most famously SNOIC and SMAUS.

Is that a user?
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11/8/2015 11:20:10 PM#243
Looking at Galaxy 2/ME from yesterday, I see that match stayed consistently less than 30 votes apart from the FFVII/Journey match for the first 11 hours of the day, then Galaxy 2/ME started to pull away from FFVII/Journey slightly. Ultimately, the Galaxy 2/ME match finished only 160 votes ahead of FFVII/Journey, so that suggests there were very little rallied votes in Galaxy 2/ME.
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Honestly Pokemon doesn't look bad here. I was thinking mid to high 60s pre-contest and only picked 72% in the oracle due to not wanting to go too low. I have Mario 3 beating it in my bracket and still like the pick, but it has nothing to do with the current match.
11/8/2015 11:46:52 PM#247
300 vote lead get

Sonic 2 is now 60/40 in the UK and nearly 53% in the U.S. I imagine the only thing keeping it from totally running away with it is the fact that it's barely winning in Canada.
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Oh damn this is actually a 3 point loss for me then if Sonic wins.
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Wow, this is crushing for my bracket.

Portal 2, not meeting expectations. I thought this might happen, just wanted to go with portal because I like it better.

But, much, much worse. Pokemon, not even over 70% against Tetris. I have a terrible feeling about this. (I have pokemon R/B losing the finals).
Also, there are so few perfect brackets left. I feel like it normally takes way longer for this to happen?

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