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This is all assuming Tetris has remained constant throughout the years which may or may not be true.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
today RBY might not break 70% on Tetris when Zelda 1 was able to easily do it.


this is literally the only evidence that actually matters toward Mario 3 > R/B/Y

you've seen enough contests to know better than to try to tout all that other stuff as "strong evidence"


Dude Mario/Bowser beating the bandwagoned trainers to death is the best evidence there is. Like this is one of those matches Board 8 overthought while every casual went "Mario 3, easy" without thinking twice, and the casuals are going to embarrass you guys.

Not saying I'm immune to it. I picked Galaxy 2 and MGS4 to win twice!


Mario/Bowser are tiers above the Trainer's unrallied strength. SMB3 is not tiers above Pokemon's strength. It didn't look to be higher than it period in 2009.
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The Trainers lost to Mario/Bowser because Mario/Bowser was stronger than them. That's it. There was no bandwagon that was stopped. Trainers were very consistent the entire contest.

If RBY loses, it'll be because SMB3 is stronger than it. It's really that simple.
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11/8/2015 9:15:21 PM#56
Uncharted falling back to earth. darn you brackets
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LeonhartFour posted...
Characters =/= Games

Again, you're smarter than this.


People keep saying this and it isn't remotely true. Characters and games are a lot closer than people want to think. There are more examples of it than there are exceptions, I'd bet, though I haven't really sat down and looked at it. For every Sonic or Kirby, you get a lot of Link/Square character/Mario/etc who are about as strong as their games are.
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11/8/2015 9:16:29 PM#60
Surskit posted...
This is all assuming Tetris has remained constant throughout the years which may or may not be true.


What reason does Tetris have to shift in strength notably one way or the other though? That game is as close to ubiquitous as it gets.
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I don't believe this, but maybe L-Block?

if CT beats R&C worse than Mario beats AOE2... well, I don't know if it means anything, but it would surprise me.
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KamikazePotato posted...
The Trainers lost to Mario/Bowser because Mario/Bowser was stronger than them. That's it. There was no bandwagon that was stopped. Trainers were very consistent the entire contest.

If RBY loses, it'll be because SMB3 is stronger than it. It's really that simple.


Which it CLEARLY is. You really think Mario 3 would struggle to break 70% on Tetris when Zelda 1 easily did it?

It's like FFX/Chrono Trigger. FFX could in theory still win, but it's clearly the weaker game right now.
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11/8/2015 9:18:21 PM#63
UltimaterializerX posted...
People keep saying this and it isn't remotely true. Characters and games are a lot closer than people want to think. There are more examples of it than there are exceptions, I'd bet, though I haven't really sat down and looked at it. For every Sonic or Kirby, you get a lot of Link/Square character/Mario/etc who are about as strong as their games are.


Yes, you are more likely to be strong as a character if your games are strong, but just because the character wins doesn't mean the game wins. Samus beats down anyone from FFX but FFX probably beats Prime head to head. It definitely beats Super Metroid.
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It wouldn't surprise me.

UYA is the ultimate "who cares" game. Age of Empires probably has voters that actually care about it.
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Honestly this is more of a comparison on who has better SFF capabilities and we already know Pokemon is a bit of an outsider.

Though I thought it would do better.
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FFX/Prime would be such a good match.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Surskit posted...
This is all assuming Tetris has remained constant throughout the years which may or may not be true.


What reason does Tetris have to shift in strength notably one way or the other though? That game is as close to ubiquitous as it gets.


It's a long shot, but maybe after L-Block? IIRC correctly, Tetris didn't look at badly in 2009? Don't hang me up on that though.
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11/8/2015 9:19:20 PM#68
pjbasis posted...
UYA is the ultimate "who cares" game.


Play Ratchet & Clank or get out
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UltimaterializerX posted...
People keep saying this and it isn't remotely true. Characters and games are a lot closer than people want to think. There are more examples of it than there are exceptions, I'd bet, though I haven't really sat down and looked at it. For every Sonic or Kirby, you get a lot of Link/Square character/Mario/etc who are about as strong as their games are.

So basically, what you're saying is that it varies. It follows that we can't tell how it goes for Pokémon yet.

shrug
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Metroid Prime would get its ass handed to it by FFX, there's not a result in contest history that implies anything less than that.
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LeonhartFour posted...
Surskit posted...
This is all assuming Tetris has remained constant throughout the years which may or may not be true.


What reason does Tetris have to shift in strength notably one way or the other though? That game is as close to ubiquitous as it gets.


It has no reason, but year to year variation doesn't have to be logical.

We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.
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11/8/2015 9:19:46 PM#72
ctesjbuvf posted...
It's a long shot, but maybe after L-Block? IIRC correctly, Tetris didn't look at badly in 2009? Don't hang me up on that though.


It beat Mega Man 2 twice, but Mega Man Classic games are weak.

(There's another example of Characters =/= Games)
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Talk about overanalyzing, imagine thinking the trainers have the same strength as the games.

Nobody gives a f*** about Red compared to the game itself. You ask a Nintendo fan who prefers Pokemon to Zelda, which character is cooler, Link or the Trainers?... Who the hell do you think is gonna come out on top?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
FFX/Prime would be such a good match.


Really? I'd take FFX without a second thought. Especially after GotD.
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11/8/2015 9:20:55 PM#75
34 people fell off the Top 50. Former first place MarioBartz64, prototypezero, MrSmartGuy, wraland28, MyGuardianAngel, wilkensm, UltraSaiyan, Coffee_Nurse, Etheos, MasterCyrax, DJaySwizzle, bigred5687, psprulz2007, snake_5036, tyder21, CStrife7, Schmeman, DevilWulf, taub0017, VonBlade, CmorningWood, rmcrowley, EgHeadFool, RE4guy, ColinC10, ShadowDark88, Vitocos, sorer102, Nightmare319, downtime, DJ_Genocide, crynyd, mushroomfantasy and Grasser1 had at least one of SSB4, Mass Effect, Halo or FF7 losing.

10 people got one match wrong and survived. Former second place Lokarin, former third place Angurvadal, Wedge_Antilles, Raganork10, JCAguirre, big_pimper, Finalxflash, Lance574, Saiz and Crono373 had one of SSB4, Mass Effect, Halo or FF7 losing.

6 people on the Top 50 scored the full 4 points. Congrats to former 24th place lawrence103, jerg55, BobTDonut, ymihere387, Phoenix1745 and NeoTS for correctly predicting all 4 matches.
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swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?
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LeonhartFour posted...
What reason does Tetris have to shift in strength notably one way or the other though? That game is as close to ubiquitous as it gets.

Who knows. I personally imagine Tetris is also a highly nostalgic game for all of us who played it during the Gameboy days. Like, yes, I can play it on my phone, but it's not the same as seeing that classic boxart on the front page, you know?
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UltimaterializerX posted...
swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


You do realize we expect you to be obnoxious about something on a daily basis, right? This won't be any different.
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Portal keeps increasing... maybe Ulti was right after all... Snoic had the brackets :)
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weird, cn's updater added an extra update at 00:22, but when i refresh the poll it doesn't change.
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charmander6000 posted...
Honestly this is more of a comparison on who has better SFF capabilities and we already know Pokemon is a bit of an outsider.

Though I thought it would do better.


I thought RBY was going to look better than this. Zelda 1 almost tripled Tetris back in 2004 and RBY should be even stronger than Zelda. I did of course consider the possibility of Zelda 1 SFFing Tetris since Zelda 1 has more a reason to SFF Tetris. Zelda 1 and Tetris were both games that were originally released in the same era of video games. And I see no reason why Tetris would increase in strength over the years since it seems like Tetris would be a very static game in terms of contest strength.
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11/8/2015 9:24:09 PM#84
UltimaterializerX posted...
You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


Not at all because plenty of people are picking Mario 3

and if you pick Mario 3 to win by 50.05% you definitely don't get to brag
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UltimaterializerX posted...
swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


I'm with you all the way.

Round 2 can't come any sooner
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UltimaterializerX posted...
swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


Hey, here's an idea: how about you don't?
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Black Turtle did a pretty good job.
RBY making me panic about surviving the Mario gauntlet. Definitely could see it losing to Mario 3 the way things are.

don't know what to think about sonic
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I mean it's been four updates and these haven't exactly been large gains. That being said though I do feel like if Sonic games follow the same trends as Mario games than Portal has this.
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11/8/2015 9:25:34 PM#90
darn it Sonic get it in gear
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UltimaterializerX posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
Again, you're smarter than this.


People keep saying this and it isn't remotely true.


This topic in a nutshell.
Sonic needs to quit slacking.
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Yeah, I don't see Pokemon laying down SFF beatdowns in the same manner as something like Zelda. Similar to how it's good at resisting them.
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Ulti's riling you guys up again

Walking Dead just had a 40% update on Uncharted 2. I wonder where that match ends.
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LeonhartFour posted...
darn it Sonic get it in gear

it doesn't matter

now what happens

only it kind of does sonic please
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Wow Sonic is riding Portal's ass, Sonic should get the day vote right?
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Holy cow Portal just nearly doubled its lead. (It sounds way more impressive worded that way than Portal winning an update by 6 votes)
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KamikazePotato posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


Hey, here's an idea: how about you don't?


With all these clowns who keep saying I'm wrong? f*** that. People should know not to push my buttons by now.
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KamikazePotato posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
swirIdude posted...
We're really not gonna know who wins SMB3/RBY Until the match takes place.


You do realize how obnoxious I'm allowed to be if Mario 3 wins, right?


Hey, here's an idea: how about you don't?

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