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SOTC>MGS3
So taking Cokes' word for it, we have 12 lead changes and 2 ties. Quite a match!
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
SOTC>MGS3


This.

But MGS3 for best MGS.
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BK_Sheikah00 posted...
ME2 to final four


Looking more and more likely. I had it beating MGS1, and was very unsure about that. Now, I feel I'm probably right.
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what? i'm feeling pretty unsteady on ME2 > MGS3 about now!
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This is almost boring in its closeness.

Like watching a basketball match, I'll just pop in for the last 5 minutes to see who wins.
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MechanicalWall posted...
BK_Sheikah00 posted...
ME2 to final four


Looking more and more likely. I had it beating MGS1, and was very unsure about that. Now, I feel I'm probably right.


Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.
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Am I the only one who feels like the Minecraft and Halo pics have a similar color scheme?

And dare I ask, were those games meant for similar target audiences?
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Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.
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ctesjbuvf posted...
Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.


ME2 IS quite a lot stronger than ME1, though.
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I was expecting Mass Effect to beat Galaxy 2 by more than this (if it even gets by), but it doesn't really matter because I would have ridiculously taken either over SSB4.

Super Mario Maker is so screwed for sure, though

against Trials and Tribulations
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I know Allen was wrong about Halo vs SMB, and it was a foolish statement, but that was like 3 contests ago, do we still need to go back and go "haha you were wrong!"

Or did I miss him saying it again in the last 5 years or so.
Not strong enough to beat MGS1/3
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Samurai7 posted...
Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.


i don't think it will work out that way. this match is very much a "which type of game do you prefer", i don't see the results being any different if that's ME2 in its place
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AlecTrevelyan006 posted...
I know Allen was wrong about Halo vs SMB, and it was a foolish statement, but that was like 3 contests ago, do we still need to go back and go "haha you were wrong!"


Yes, because it made him divide 2009 by era, and it may have colored his opinion on the formula that kept SMB1 out
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If you assumed that Portal and Mass Effect were at GOTD levels than Galaxy 2 gets like 30% on Melee.

That's pretty much what Galaxy 1 got in Brawl in BGE2! Is this telling us something?
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Steiner posted...
Samurai7 posted...
Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.


i don't think it will work out that way. this match is very much a "which type of game do you prefer", i don't see the results being any different if that's ME2 in its place


And how is that different from saying OoT can't beat FFVII because FFVI would beat Twilight Princess? Of course games in the same series are going to have different amounts of strength. Go to any bioware or Mass Effect community and tons of people who enjoyed ME2 and 3 hate the original.
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MechanicalWall posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.


ME2 IS quite a lot stronger than ME1, though.


I know it's generally a lot more well-recieved, but it's playrate is quite a bit lower. They might not be any good indication, but Galaxy 2 didn't lose to ME2 by that much in the GotY polls. I don't really see that many people voting differently whether it's ME1 or ME2 in the poll. Besides, MGS is surely a lot stronger than Galaxy 2 as well.
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From the previous topic:

creativename posted...

Well it's great to have you then :)

What's your picks for the debates matches? Like Sonic 2 vs Portal coming up. And what's your final four look like?


Thx!

I have Sonic 2 beating Portal, I don't think Portal 2 is as nearly as popular as Portal 1. Plus it's a new game.

Final four is FF7, Mario 64, Ocarina, and Mass Effect 2. I have Mario 64 losing to Ocarina in the finals. I'm taking a pretty decent risk going with mass effect but if there's a game that would ever get a contest title boost, it's me2. Plus if SotC can take out MGS2 and 4 before bowing out to MGS3 then I believe ME2 can beat MGS3 outright in a 24 hour match. MGS1 will be the toughest match but both games are known for their narrative, and ME2 from what I gather is the better designed game overall, meaning MGS1 will have to rely on nostalgia to win. I also think in a close match Mass Effect will get rallied for the win. I mean, just look at the poll we have right now! Granted SMG2 is winning right now but i think it means something that the first comeback of the contest is from Mass Effect

Then there's Mario 64. I believe it's the only non-Zelda game that can take out RBY. Mario 3 and Mario World won't be able to do it because they are much older games than RBY and the people that grew up with RBY won't consider switching their vote. But Mario 64 is from the same era and, like Mass Effect 2, is one of those title's that deserves a contest title boost. That game has influenced pretty much every 3d game since, either directly or indirectly. OoT was made with the Mario 64 engine, GoldenEye got its objective system from Mario 64's star system, Gabe Newell of Valve considers it one of the two best games ever along with Doom and thus it probably had a big influence on Half-Life and other Valve games released after, it created the camera system for 3D games, speedrunners are still playing the game in the hopes of finding new glitches to beat their old times...I can go on and on but I believe I've made my point.

As for beating FF7? I bet it can happen. Mario beat Cloud way back in 2002 in a close match, back when FF7 characters weren't getting beaten by Pokemon. Nintendo is strong here, and in the last game contest sem-final we had, Nintendo beat Square in a close match when a lot of people thought FFX would either win the tournament or get to the finals. Could the same thing happen here? I think so.
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ctesjbuvf posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.


ME2 IS quite a lot stronger than ME1, though.


I know it's generally a lot more well-recieved, but it's playrate is quite a bit lower. They might not be any good indication, but Galaxy 2 didn't lose to ME2 by that much in the GotY polls. I don't really see that many people voting differently whether it's ME1 or ME2 in the poll. Besides, MGS is surely a lot stronger than Galaxy 2 as well.


Where do you get the idea it has a lower play rate? ME 2 had over twice the sales of ME 1.
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Steiner posted...
Samurai7 posted...
Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.


i don't think it will work out that way. this match is very much a "which type of game do you prefer", i don't see the results being any different if that's ME2 in its place


The results would almost definitely be different if it was ME2 vs. MG2, because Mass Effect 2 beat out Mario Galaxy 2 in the 2010 GOTY awards, and only looked even better in retrospect when ME3 didn't turn out as well as people hoped.
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Samurai7 posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.


ME2 IS quite a lot stronger than ME1, though.


I know it's generally a lot more well-recieved, but it's playrate is quite a bit lower. They might not be any good indication, but Galaxy 2 didn't lose to ME2 by that much in the GotY polls. I don't really see that many people voting differently whether it's ME1 or ME2 in the poll. Besides, MGS is surely a lot stronger than Galaxy 2 as well.


Where do you get the idea it has a lower play rate? ME 2 had over twice the sales of ME 1.


ME2 was also a multi-platform game, while ME was only on 360
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
Samurai7 posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Galaxy 2 isn't really that strong. Mass Effect 2 needs to be quite a lot stronger than 1 to pull that off.


ME2 IS quite a lot stronger than ME1, though.


I know it's generally a lot more well-recieved, but it's playrate is quite a bit lower. They might not be any good indication, but Galaxy 2 didn't lose to ME2 by that much in the GotY polls. I don't really see that many people voting differently whether it's ME1 or ME2 in the poll. Besides, MGS is surely a lot stronger than Galaxy 2 as well.


Where do you get the idea it has a lower play rate? ME 2 had over twice the sales of ME 1.


ME2 was also a multi-platform game, while ME was only on 360


All the more reason to assume it has a higher play rate.
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MechanicalWall posted...
Steiner posted...
Samurai7 posted...
Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.


i don't think it will work out that way. this match is very much a "which type of game do you prefer", i don't see the results being any different if that's ME2 in its place


The results would almost definitely be different if it was ME2 vs. MG2, because Mass Effect 2 beat out Mario Galaxy 2 in the 2010 GOTY awards, and only looked even better in retrospect when ME3 didn't turn out as well as people hoped.


The problem is beating Mario Galaxy 2 isn't really impressive at all. If that's all ME2 has to hang its hat on it's going to get obliterated.
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whatisurnameplz posted...
Final four is FF7, Mario 64, Ocarina, and Mass Effect 2. I have Mario 64 losing to Ocarina in the finals. I'm taking a pretty decent risk going with mass effect but if there's a game that would ever get a contest title boost, it's me2. Plus if SotC can take out MGS2 and 4 before bowing out to MGS3 then I believe ME2 can beat MGS3 outright in a 24 hour match. MGS1 will be the toughest match but both games are known for their narrative, and ME2 from what I gather is the better designed game overall, meaning MGS1 will have to rely on nostalgia to win. I also think in a close match Mass Effect will get rallied for the win. I mean, just look at the poll we have right now! Granted SMG2 is winning right now but i think it means something that the first comeback of the contest is from Mass Effect


You are REALLY underestimating nostalgia

There is NO way ME2 can beat MGS1
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That 28 vote gain, looks like Mario is up to his old tricks

>_>
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BlAcK TuRtLe posted...
while ME was only on 360


what

i have only played mass effect on the ps3
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Karma Hunter posted...
The problem is beating Mario Galaxy 2 isn't really impressive at all. If that's all ME2 has to hang its hat on it's going to get obliterated.


I mean, that's true, but I think ME2 has a lot more to hang on its hat. I'd argue it's probably the most well-regarded game to come out of the PS3/360 era, other than maybe Red Dead Redemption.
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Karma Hunter posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
Steiner posted...
Samurai7 posted...
Mass Effect 2 IS a lot stronger than Mass Effect.


i don't think it will work out that way. this match is very much a "which type of game do you prefer", i don't see the results being any different if that's ME2 in its place


The results would almost definitely be different if it was ME2 vs. MG2, because Mass Effect 2 beat out Mario Galaxy 2 in the 2010 GOTY awards, and only looked even better in retrospect when ME3 didn't turn out as well as people hoped.


The problem is beating Mario Galaxy 2 isn't really impressive at all. If that's all ME2 has to hang its hat on it's going to get obliterated.


I'm not arguing that. I'm arguing against people saying it wouldn't be stronger. It will clearly be substantially stronger. That doesn't mean it will be able to beat the MGS gauntlet.
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MechanicalWall posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
The problem is beating Mario Galaxy 2 isn't really impressive at all. If that's all ME2 has to hang its hat on it's going to get obliterated.


I mean, that's true, but I think ME2 has a lot more to hang on its hat. I'd argue it's probably the most well-regarded game to come out of the PS3/360 era, other than maybe Red Dead Redemption.


GTA5 over both of those
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whatisurnameplz posted...
Final four is FF7, Mario 64, Ocarina, and Mass Effect 2. I have Mario 64 losing to Ocarina in the finals. I'm taking a pretty decent risk going with mass effect but if there's a game that would ever get a contest title boost, it's me2. Plus if SotC can take out MGS2 and 4 before bowing out to MGS3 then I believe ME2 can beat MGS3 outright in a 24 hour match. MGS1 will be the toughest match but both games are known for their narrative, and ME2 from what I gather is the better designed game overall, meaning MGS1 will have to rely on nostalgia to win. I also think in a close match Mass Effect will get rallied for the win. I mean, just look at the poll we have right now! Granted SMG2 is winning right now but i think it means something that the first comeback of the contest is from Mass Effect


You are REALLY underestimating nostalgia

There is NO way ME2 can beat MGS1


How much strength has MGS1 kept over the years though? It really hasn't aged that well.
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GranzonEx posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
The problem is beating Mario Galaxy 2 isn't really impressive at all. If that's all ME2 has to hang its hat on it's going to get obliterated.


I mean, that's true, but I think ME2 has a lot more to hang on its hat. I'd argue it's probably the most well-regarded game to come out of the PS3/360 era, other than maybe Red Dead Redemption.


GTA5 over both of those


I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.
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charmander6000 posted...
That 28 vote gain, looks like Mario is up to his old tricks

>_>


And then ME almost get back everything.
There are no trends in this match, just madness.
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MechanicalWall posted...
I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.


I meant more as a well received game from the PS360 gen. ME2 beats GTA5 on Gamefaqs no question.
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Final four is FF7, Mario 64, Ocarina, and Mass Effect 2. I have Mario 64 losing to Ocarina in the finals. I'm taking a pretty decent risk going with mass effect but if there's a game that would ever get a contest title boost, it's me2. Plus if SotC can take out MGS2 and 4 before bowing out to MGS3 then I believe ME2 can beat MGS3 outright in a 24 hour match. MGS1 will be the toughest match but both games are known for their narrative, and ME2 from what I gather is the better designed game overall, meaning MGS1 will have to rely on nostalgia to win. I also think in a close match Mass Effect will get rallied for the win. I mean, just look at the poll we have right now! Granted SMG2 is winning right now but i think it means something that the first comeback of the contest is from Mass Effect


You are REALLY underestimating nostalgia

There is NO way ME2 can beat MGS1


no you're right which is a shame because it would have been nice to see ME2 in a better bracket. MGs1 is just way too strong even for ME2.

GTA5 over both of those

GTAV would lose to ME2 comfortably. Wouldn't even be close.

what

i have only played mass effect on the ps3


ME1 came out first on the Xbox and then PC. By the time it came out on Ps3 it was irrelevant. Had ME been mutiplat from the start more peopele may have played it.
Hope this is a sign that nintendo won't be as strong...cus it's what ruins most contests now.
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Eh, I'll take back the things about playrate, but the other points stand, don't just ignore those.

MechanicalWall posted...
I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.


You should know GTA has a history of being really weak here. It's likely lose beforehand, but the furthest it'll possible make it is to RE4.
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GranzonEx posted...
MechanicalWall posted...
I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.


I meant more as a well received game from the PS360 gen. ME2 beats GTA5 on Gamefaqs no question.


It beats it on the critical front too. ME2 had way more GOTY awards. GTAV didn't win much but that was due to a game called the Last of us.
ctesjbuvf posted...
Eh, I'll take back the things about playrate, but the other points stand, don't just ignore those.

MechanicalWall posted...
I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.


You should know GTA has a history of being really weak here. It's likely lose beforehand, but the furthest it'll possible make it is to RE4.


I figured, the hype for GTAV is still real after the PS4/Xbone rerelease, and I'm pretty sure that by now, it's the best-selling non-bundled game of all time. I felt playrate alone would help push it past the competetion
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Januzaj_Dragon posted...
It beats it on the critical front too. ME2 had way more GOTY awards. GTAV didn't win much but that was due to a game called the Last of us.


That's just saying ME2 had no competition, not that GTA5 did not warrant praise.
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Well, we had Golden Sun beating San Andreas last contest, I have a difficult time seeing GTA beat any real competition.
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MarquetteKing posted...
So is Galaxy 2 winning or what


Leads by 9 votes right now.

http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/drupal/node/22?matchnum=6064&num=2
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MechanicalWall posted...
ctesjbuvf posted...
Eh, I'll take back the things about playrate, but the other points stand, don't just ignore those.

MechanicalWall posted...
I looked and yeah, GTA5 made it into my quarterfinals while RDR didn't. I still think ME2 will beat it, though.


You should know GTA has a history of being really weak here. It's likely lose beforehand, but the furthest it'll possible make it is to RE4.


I figured, the hype for GTAV is still real after the PS4/Xbone rerelease, and I'm pretty sure that by now, it's the best-selling non-bundled game of all time. I felt playrate alone would help push it past the competetion


But the question is, how many of the people who bought it go vote in the Poll of the Day?
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