GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1196
It doesn't, but people were trying to say that was the case in GOTD, too, which I don't necessarily agree with. Although generally hierarchies change to favor the new over the now too old, not the other way around. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I'm
really happy with Xenogears' performance today. I intentionally bet in
KotOR with 60% in the Oracle because I absolutely did NOT want to
overestimate Xenogears.... kinda like how Leonhart with FFVIII. I love
Xenogears too dearly. So, with Xenogears getting 47% on Knights of the Old Republic, it looks good for Xenogears but not necessarily for FFIX. Granted, both Xenogears and FFIX probably gained since 2010. Who would win between MGS4 and KotOR? I'm thinking MGS4 by a smidge. And if Kingdom Hearts is equal to Kingdom Hearts II, we're looking at Kingdom Hearts beating KOTOR with, say, 60%. That means FFIX would have to gain seven points on KotOR to beat Kingdom Hearts. That's all major guess-timation, but I'm worried about my bracket there. If I had things my way, Kingdom Hearts would be getting weaker. It had a nice story, but the gameplay and level designs were not very good. Sora didn't look particularly great in the last contest, so there's the possibility Kingdom Hearts did fall, and that MGS4 fell harder. --- "Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those. It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think." |
I think that's too generic a brush to paint with. I assume you wouldn't take MGS4 over MGS3 now, after all. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... I think that's too generic a brush to paint with. I assume you wouldn't take MGS4 over MGS3 now, after all. Of course not. I also don't think the hierarchy has changed within MGS. But I would think MGS3 will eventually overtake MGS1 at some point, if it hasn't already happened. I doubt MGS1 could ever "re-overtake" MGS3 if MGS3 ever got ahead of it. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
kay aitch what's your take on mgs3/1 --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
MGS3
hasn't really ever been that close to MGS. I don't know where that
talk's come from, but I expect this contest to more or less put it to
rest. And the MGS hierarchy has absolutely shifted, at least when it comes to raw strength. When MGS4 was riding at its highest there was no question it was stronger than MGS2, and that certainly can't be said today at the least. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
and
I kinda like those stats. not in comparison to Majora, of course, but
relative to what we've seen this year I think it looks OK. Xenogears =
Symphonia I'll take it --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
MGS4 in 2008 might have been the strongest MGS game. It was reeeeeally riding high during that time. I think at this point it could be the weakest (although I'd give that to 5). 1, 2, and 3 are on another level. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Well, MGS4 is weird anyway. You don't find many games that have fallen as hard as that one has. But going back to Mario 3/Mario World/Mario 64, most people seem to think if Mario 3 was the low one on the totem pole in 2009, the gap has probably only widened since then, but why? I can only imagine it's because people think it's "too old." It wasn't too old in 2004, but in 2015, I guess it is. I doubt Mario 3 could re-overtake World or 64 if it has fallen behind by any notable margin. If LttP ever falls behind Majora, I'd expect it to stay there. (Not saying I think it has, just as an example) --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Eh, I think MGS2 is closer to MGS4 than it is to MGS1. I wouldn't put 2 on the same tier. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
MGS2
is an oddball. The hate has certainly diminished over time, but that
doesn't translate to nostalgia (the strongest weapon a game can wield in
these contests, naturally). No question it's below 1/3, of course. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Haste_2 posted... Who would win between MGS4 and KotOR? I'm thinking MGS4 by a smidge. And if Kingdom Hearts is equal to Kingdom Hearts II, we're looking at Kingdom Hearts beating KOTOR with, say, 60%. That means FFIX would have to gain seven points on KotOR to beat Kingdom Hearts. That's all major guess-timation, but I'm worried about my bracket there. Well, in 2010 KOTOR is estimated to get 45.30% on Kingdom Hearts 1. So no, I don't think it loses to MGS4 at this point. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Oh,
I bet I know where at least some of the question comes from. I think
MGS3 wins those straw "Best MGS Polls" regularly, doesn't it? Not really the same thing, though, when it comes to 1v1 contest strength. MGS3 is a real Yoshi of a fan-favorite; I'll believe it's stronger than MGS when I see it. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... I think MGS3 wins those straw "Best MGS Polls" regularly, doesn't it? It does. I have MGS1 > MGS3 myself and I've always felt MGS1 is the darling of the series, but 25% of Gurus have MGS3 winning the division. MGS1 is the favorite, but plenty of people think 3 has a chance. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... Oh, I bet I know where at least some of the question comes from. I think MGS3 wins those straw "Best MGS Polls" regularly, doesn't it? I think 1 is intrinsically stronger, but I think 3 might be able to beat MGS1 1 v 1. If there's ever a rSFF situation that could actually work, it would be that one. Still took MGS1 in my bracket though. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Also Board 8 loves MGS3 a lot so I'm not sure this is the best place to hold 'best MGS' polls. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
ROUND 1 – DAY 4 – BOTTOM OF DIVISION 2 Match XIII: (3) Super Smash Bros. for Wii U vs. (14) Planescape: Torment Previous Performance Super Smash Bros. for Wii U – N/A N/A Planescape: Torment – N/A N/A Analysis This is the first match where none of the games have had previous contest experience, but you don’t need stats to know Super Smash Bros. Wii U is going to win. Planescape is a PC game, which is all that needs to be said for a GameFAQs contest. The game does have its followers as it not only made this contest, but did well in the top 100 list, however I doubt their small fanbase will make much of a dent in the contest, even with lower vote totals. If there is going to be a Wii U game with strength it would be Super Smash Bros. 4. In an unbiased world this game should have the strength at around Melee, but with fewer people that have played the game, even with the 3DS version I don’t expect it to have the same strength. That will not matter in this contest where SSB4’s path is quite simple. With all of the blowouts we’ve seen this contest I wouldn’t be surprised if SSB4 pushes for one of the biggest blowout so far. charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Smash Bros. Wii U > Planescape: Torment charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Smash Bros. Wii U wins, 80.52% - 19.48% Match XIV: (6) Super Mario Galaxy 2 vs. (11) Mass Effect Previous Performance Super Mario Galaxy 2 – N/A N/A Mass Effect – 2010 69.57% against Plants vs. Zombies 62.20% against Skies of Arcadia 45.68% against Portal Analysis This one has had some murmurs of an upset as some people expect SMG2 to flop. The game does have potential to flop as the game came out at the beginning of when the site started to turn its back on the Wii. However, if there is one game that could survive that time relatively unscathed it would be SMG2. Just because people started to resent the system doesn’t mean its owners stopped buying games and given what was there SMG2 would have been a top choice. Of course how much it differs in strength relative to its older brother could possibly determine the winner. Mass Effect was quite lucky in 2010. After losing to Left 4 Dead in 2009 Mass Effect 2 was released and it was a game changer. While it was too late for that game to participate it boosted the first game to mid-carder status. While I don’t believe the game has regressed back to its 2009 levels I do believe the game has dropped in strength. Some fans are still a bit bitter from Mass Effect 3 and overall the hype level surrounding its series is nowhere near what it was during the 2010 contest. Could Mass Effect win? Yes, it has a genuine chance, but it would be because Super Mario Galaxy 2 is weak, not because Mass Effect is strong. charmander6000’s Bracket: Super Mario Galaxy 2 > Mass Effect charmander6000’s Prediction: Super Mario Galaxy 2 wins, 58.23% - 41.77% --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFVI>ACII, PM:TTYD>ToS, SW:KotOR>Xenogears, LoZ:WW>Pokemon XY Points 6/8 |
Match XV: (7) Minecraft vs. (10) Halo: Combat Evolved Previous Performance Minecraft – N/A N/A Halo: Combat Evolved – 2010 64.45% against Ninja Gaiden 56.92% against Halo 3 53.68% against Uncharted 2: Among Thieves 39.40% against Fallout 3 Analysis Using GameFAQs strength alone I expect Minecraft to be quite weak. Sure it has millions of players, but like World of Warcraft or League of Legends they don’t come to GameFAQs. If one rally-able game can win the entire contest it would be Minecraft, it has the perfect start to build up its bandwagon with anti-vote magnets Halo and Final Fantasy VII as its first two opponents. The main question is will there be a rally? I’m not sure, and really it comes down to who and where the rallies come from. It also needs to be strong enough. Depending on what percent Halo gets normally I could see them needing upwards towards 15000 votes. With the low vote totals it opens up the possibility that a popular YouTube user could get its followers to go vote. The question becomes will they care? Halo 3’s performance earlier was not very inspiring and while I don’t see Halo losing normally in this match it could give Minecraft enough home support to be able to bridge the gap with rallying. charmander6000’s Bracket: Halo: Combat Evolved > Minecraft charmander6000’s Prediction: Halo: Combat Evolved wins, 65.41% - 34.59% Match XVI: (2) Final Fantasy VII vs. (15) Journey Previous Performance Final Fantasy VII – 2009 55.05% against Mario Kart 64, Star Fox 64 and Suikoden 47.30% against GoldenEye 007, Super Mario RPG, Mario Kart 64 41.25% against Super Mario 64, Chrono Trigger, GoldenEye 007 40.06% against LoZ: A Link to the Past, Super Mario 64, Final Fantasy VI 44.77% against LoZ: A Link to the Past, Super Mario World, Super Mario Bros. 3 36.75% against LoZ: Ocarina of Time, LoZ: A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy X Journey – N/A N/A Analysis I think this match will be a great way to measure FFVII’s anti-votes. In a normal match I can see Final Fantasy VII breaking 90%, but in a contest with fewer vote totals anti-votes may become an issue. Final Fantasy VII’s characters looked terrible last contest while the game lost to FFVI in the favourite Final Fantasy poll. While its performance here will have no bearing on its chances to reach the final a good performance here could go a long way at silencing its critics. charmander6000’s Bracket: Final Fantasy VII > Journey charmander6000’s Prediction: Final Fantasy VII wins, 82.73% - 17.27% --- BGE3: Today's Matches FFVI>ACII, PM:TTYD>ToS, SW:KotOR>Xenogears, LoZ:WW>Pokemon XY Points 6/8 |
I forgot to post this earlier. After Day 2, 36 people fell off the Top 50. Former first place Arctic_Cress, former second place Drkanbs, transcience, evilevi13, Pacmantis, KingButz, Swarles_Barkley, CWFinady, Candice1203, loseless, EvilNinja725, The_Flow, some_guy369, Darkure, DevsChum, NMorgan, cloud165, cliggon, CommanderxGreen, TheSuperMan, jack_l_333, TheMarthKoopa, Lagochocobo13, Rakugi, The_Great_0ne, InfamousCarl, rstewart00, dancing_cactuar, nayr626, Jay_Solano, Foxhoundn313, True_Gator, Shadow_Navi_EX, Krystal109, stevieboyc and mriswith70 had at least one of SSBM, GSC, KH2 or TLoU losing. --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
ZFS posted... As far as the whole narrow minded idea goes, I'm not sure it's that GameFAQs only likes a handful of series, but rather, it's more centralized around a certain time period. Many of these new games were fresh and exciting in 2009-2010, when Western developers were dominating and bringing these whole new games to the table and GameFAQs had a wider audience. But Final Fantasy has been run into the ground, and people here don't really like any post-X game. Yet FF6 and FF7 are still elite. Nintendo isn't as popular as they used to be either yet Zelda and Mario remain dominant. While Halo drops as Microsoft loses popularity and it ages. Even though the Xbox One is more popular than the Wii U (not sure about on this site?). There's a very limited set of franchises here with staying power. Other games can reach midcard or high midcard status, but they really have trouble staying there. I agree about the age - around when this site entered or graduated college, they cut down heavily on video game playing. The top games are from people's youth, which makes sense. Newer games will never enter the elite. But I'm talking about staying power being limited, not just the "glass ceiling" of 90's classics. The glass ceiling has always been there, and nobody ever expected it to be broken. But other franchises lacking staying power - despite games like say Halo maintaining classic status in most gaming communities - is a more recently evident thing. Perhaps "NarrowMemoryFAQs" is better. Or something like that. Memory here isn't limited, it's very long. But it is narrow. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename posted... Even though the Xbox One is more popular than the Wii U (not sure about on this site?). not even close, have you seen the ownership polls? |
creativename posted... ZFS posted...As far as the whole narrow minded idea goes, I'm not sure it's that GameFAQs only likes a handful of series, but rather, it's more centralized around a certain time period. Many of these new games were fresh and exciting in 2009-2010, when Western developers were dominating and bringing these whole new games to the table and GameFAQs had a wider audience. So when will GameFAQs shut down? --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
BlAcK TuRtLe posted... I think MCC and the general garbageness of the Xbone and Halo 4/5 ruined that franchise for a lot people, me included. I took Minecraft because I legit think it is stronger than Halo CE in 2015. You have this completely backwards. I'm heavily involved in the Halo community (especially CE) and if anything the crappiness of MCC and Halo 4/5 has just bolstered people's love of classic Halo and they long for the old ones, just like Pokemon. Halo 1 has always been the strongest of the 3 original games and I've seen a resurgent popularity in the competitive and speedrunning community as well as many people checking out the campaign for the first time. My FAQ for Halo 1 multiplayer saw a huge boost in views over the year despite how bad MCC was. Halo 3 got crushed because Last of Us is legitimately amazing and even I voted for it. Someone posted a link to gameFAQs over at TeamBeyond.net (Halo competitve forum) and a lot of people there posted and said they voted for Last of Us LOL. Halo 3 has not had the lasting impact that CE has. Many people think 3's campaign was kinda weak overall and the only cool thing about 3's multiplayer were the social features like Forge. --- http://www.last.fm/user/VinnyMendoza "This is all we have... when we die.." |
Oh man, remember when some people thought Halo 3 would beat Halo 1? That was like free testicle day for me. I think Halo 1 endures, but Halo 3/Reach would both take a big hit from the recent crappy stuff. |
I'd take Super Mario 64 over all Final Fantasy's. I have it in the finals with Ocarina of Time. The only game that could upset that is Melee. --- Video Games are pretty cool. (edited 11/7/2015 7:28:55 PM)report |
Halo 1 is definitely the strongest game in the series, followed by 2. After that, it's a crapshoot. I would like to see Reach in a Contest because its one of my favorite Halo games, but that s*** would probably bomb hard. I'd take it to win a match before 4, but I digress. --- 8/8 pts - The GameFAQs' 20th Anniversary Best. Game. Ever. Contest! NP: Final Fantasy VI/Paper Mario: TYD/Star Wars KOTOR/Zelda WW |
I
took Mass Effect over SMG2 in my bracket. I just looked at how Mass
Effect did in previous contests now......whoops, there goes one point. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
UberPyro64 posted... I'd take Super Mario 64 over all Final Fantasy's. Agree with this! --- satoru iwata |
Honestly,
it just blows my mind how AC2 recovered so little percentage after the
board vote. It should probably be considered Turd of the Round so far. At least Pokemon has the SFF excuse here. --- JAK The Character Battle IX people's champ. |
On
one hand I feel like GameFAQS' old biases reasserting themselves this
contest bodes ill for Mass Effect tomorrow, but on the other hand, as
great as SMG2 is, I'm not sure it's different enough from SMG1 to beat
ME1. It's more of the same greatness, but part of that phrase is "more
of the same." When you're from a series as revered as Super Mario Bros.,
you're judged by a higher standard. --- "What's the matter with bootblacking? We both like it very much!" This is Yesmar. Congrats to CBIX Guru Winner *Raytan*! (edited 11/7/2015 8:04:26 PM)report |
I have ME beating SMG2 and then beating SSB4 next round --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... creativename posted...Even though the Xbox One is more popular than the Wii U (not sure about on this site?). No, I was hoping someone would link me as I hate having to search :) I'll have to link to that in my site menu so it's easy for me to find... Anyway yeah Wii U is way ahead. Anyway, longevity for the non-elite series here is still suspect is what I'm getting at. ffmasterjose posted... Halo 1 is definitely the strongest game in the series, followed by 2. After that, it's a crapshoot. I'd take 3 over 2, with 1 a step above. TheCodeisBosco posted... At least Pokemon has the SFF excuse here. augh --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
^^You shouldn't let your dislike of X/Y cloud your judgement, sir. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
Got Xbox One?: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5928-got-xbox-one Got Wii U?: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5929-got-wii-u --- No amount of rallying would let me beat raytan7585. Congrats to raytan7585 for winning the CB9 Guru Contest! |
I
have a spreadsheet where I track each system's ownership over time,
based on the "Got Console?" polls we get about 2 times a year. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMtyUuzmT5ggmYy-xbiGf7fcloXuhkQuu4ZIC2nGI4M/pub --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Karma Hunter posted... I have ME beating SMG2 this is why i needed you on the crew --- Moltar Status: hype Contest Analysis Crew Archives: http://thecrew.speedrunwiki.com/ |
I'm pretty sure to be on the Crew you need to at least pretend you've got an actual rationale for your picks still (SSB4 is a frauuuuuuuuuuuuuuud) --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
plug: you guys who want proper analysis should check out the crew topic! I was saying this somewhere today (hopefully not in here): I was all set to pick against Mass Effect, Galaxy 2 and Smash 4 and then they ended up together. it sucks that I can't just abstain. --- xyzzy |
_Dog posted... ^^You shouldn't let your dislike of X/Y cloud your judgement, sir. Dislike? Are you talking to me? If so I have literally zero opinion on X/Y, I'd never even heard of it before this contest. I've never played a Pokemon game. It's over saturation of late rounds by Pokemon I don't like and obviously X/Y is no threat to that. I rarely let bias color my expectations anyway. I think RBY might be the #2 game and I hope it loses to SMW or SM64. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
anyone else thinks FFVII will look terrible tonight? I have feeling it will barely break 70% the game seems more hated than ever (FF fanbase preferring FFVI now?!) and it was already antivote magnet anyway. That remake can't come soon enough. --- ... |
Anti-vote magnet or not, it's frickin' Journey. I wouldn't be surprised if it was weaker than Ratchet & Clank UYA. No way FFVII doesn't comfortably skate past 70%. --- JAK The Character Battle IX people's champ. (edited 11/7/2015 8:52:54 PM)report |
Oh
man, I didn't even realize FF7 was in the next match. That's the most
important game in the bracket IMO - and the most interesting. It has a
large strength range value, and where it falls will determine the
endgame of the contest. Will it lose to FF6? Melee/Chrono Trigger?
RBY/Mario 64? Any of those things is possible. Too bad we learn little from its next match as its against unknown fodder. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I dunno, I figure FF7 Remake hype could very well do something to boost the game. Still don't think it makes the finals, but we'll see I guess. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
I'm starting to think every western game outside of Fallout/Skyrim is going to bomb. |
FFVII's
percentage in this upcoming match is difficult to predict, because the
game seems to have a small subset of voters that will always vote
against it, even when it faces a game they have never heard of. I'd
probably take AC2 over Journey, so that's probably a reason why I think
FFVII should get at least 80% or more. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
TheCodeisBosco posted... Anti-vote magnet or not, it's frickin' Journey. I wouldn't be surprised if it was weaker than Ratchet & Clank UYA. No way FFVII doesn't comfortably skate past 70%. I won't try to read anything on FF7 from this match unless it fails to break 75% or breaks 85%. -LusterSoldier- posted... FFVII's percentage in this upcoming match is difficult to predict, because the game seems to have a small subset of voters that will always vote against it, even when it faces a game they have never heard of. I don't think this is necessarily true, or at least only minimally true. In general it's just bled real, legit strength heavily. Not so much a small anti-vote base - a general drop in strength among everyone. Combined with being the most anti-rally prone entrant. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
Karma Hunter posted... I dunno, I figure FF7 Remake hype could very well do something to boost the game. I don't think it makes the finals, but I have to imagine the REMAKE has done something good. --- satoru iwata |
all night I have been scared of Minecraft I mean I think this thing should be weak but I can't think of anyway to imply something good can come out of Halo from that match with Last of Us --- sig pssssssssssst - http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/568795-soccer-challenge |
this board vote is surprising. --- ... |
Final Fantasy VI - 80.86% Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door - 53.36% Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - 71.86% The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker - 77.46% A bit surprised that FFVI was that low. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
