The comparison is just annoying me, but that's just because I liked MOM (not much, easily least favorite in the series), while I've seen lots of bad movies over the past year so I know trash when I see it.

And as for the movies mentioned in my previous post, I like Return of the Jedi, Back to the Future Parts II & III, Top Gun, Die Hard 3, and The Lost World.
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Why do people keep saying Pokemon can't be SFFed...?

There's no proof RBY didn't get SFFed a little bit by Ocarina of Time. Who can say?

And while DPP and RSE are behind a chain of potential SFF matches in Game of the Decade, there is one thing we can glean from it. Diamond/Pearl/Platinum only got 27% on Brawl while Golden Sun got 34% on Final Fantasy X. I think DPP deserves more credit than that, back then at least.

Also keep in mind that Pokemon RSE beat GTAIV, like Golden Sun, yet GTAIV is way below the other GTA games in the x-stats in Game of the Decade. Therefore, RSE was likely underrated, giving further support that DPP was underrated, too. Maybe DPP was quite a bit below RSE in true strength, but I doubt it.
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Just to ask a question, who wins between X/Y and Half-Life?
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
Yeah. It sucks that modern Pokemon is so popular, even on this website


Honestly I don't get all the pokemon hate here.
I doubt anyone would take DPP > XY, if this match doesn't convince you that Pokemon can be SFF then nothing will.
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AxemRedRanger posted...
2010: HG/SS
2011: BW
2012: BW II
2013: XY
2014: OR/AS

If yearly releases (or close to it) that leave no lasting impact are damaging to Batman, Assassin's Creed, and Call of Duty, why not modern Pokemon?


Pokemon games operate under a different logic.

Most series don't have "versions" or "generations".
I'd pick DPP > XY.

I have one simple theory for Pokemon - older the generation, stronger the game.
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Just to ask a question, who wins between X/Y and Half-Life?


Half Life
55-45
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I dunno how people can argue that Pokemon can't be SFFed by other Nintendo games. There is clearly an overlap. "One is handheld and one is console" is an extremely weak argument.

I think X/Y is getting crushed by more than just Nintendo SFF though. I think there is a factor of series recognition. If X/Y went up against some lesser played game it would crush it and we'd be like "Wow X/Y is really strong!!" when really it was just people picking the Pokemon option because they've never played either game but they know they like Pokemon. That can't really happen to a Zelda game though, especially one like WW which has a high playrate and is well liked by most people on GameFAQs.
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Oh yea, I guess raytan won.
LinkMarioSamus posted...
If Other M is an abysmal game, then every Star Wars after The Empire Strikes Back, Top Gun, and the sequels to Back to the Future, Die Hard, and Jurassic Park are even more abysmal movies.


wat
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pls stop quoting LMS

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11/7/2015 9:32:37 AM#164
I might take DPP over XY. DPP was the game that introduced online battling and online trading to the series. That's big for creating memories. Not nearly enough to beat RGBYGSC or anything but I think it really could be third strongest. Even if it isn't, I don't think the RSE and onward Pokemon games are all that different in strength. SSBB getting 72.9% on DPP was the reason I went 69% on WW here. I'm not sure if there's any SFF but it looks like I lucked out and the SFF didn't matter too much.
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ZeldaTPLink posted...
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Yeah. It sucks that modern Pokemon is so popular, even on this website


Honestly I don't get all the pokemon hate here.


I might've worded that wrong.

"It sucks that modern Pokemon is so weak despite its popularity."
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DPP was the game that introduced online battling.

But XY was the game that made that a lot easier. It made it easier for people building teams to set their IVs/EVs/natures which were a barrier to competitive battling.

Also DPP seems to be the most hated game in the series, judging from the pokemon boards.
Surskit posted...
LinkMarioSamus posted...
If Other M is an abysmal game, then every Star Wars after The Empire Strikes Back, Top Gun, and the sequels to Back to the Future, Die Hard, and Jurassic Park are even more abysmal movies.


wat


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I'm starting to wonder if the gap between elites and midcarders/fodder is just a lot bigger in general. We were all freaking out when Chrono Trigger demolished UYA, but Melee, GSC, Final Fantasy VI, and Wind Waker are all having very strong performances as well considering their competition.

Encouraging people to vote in matches they'd normally skip might have something to do with it, since they're much more likely to vote for big games and big names than stuff like TWEWY. But then that should've benefitted Pokemon X/Y too, and I expected that to be more like 60-40 Wind Waker, but nope.
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DaruniaTheGoron posted...
I dunno how people can argue that Pokemon can't be SFFed by other Nintendo games. There is clearly an overlap. "One is handheld and one is console" is an extremely weak argument.


Agreed. We saw Mario Kart DS get SFFed to death by Brawl. I think games several generations apart are far more likely to resist SFF.

charmander6000 posted...
I doubt anyone would take DPP > XY, if this match doesn't convince you that Pokemon can be SFF then nothing will.


Agreed. Not by much, though. In any case, if you compare this match to Brawl vs. DPP, Zelda: Wind Waker really looks like a winner. While I think FFVI's performance is still more impressive, [the Brawl/Wind Waker] comparison is the main reason we cannot discount Wind Waker against FFVI yet.
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11/7/2015 9:50:50 AM#170
ZeldaTPLink posted...
DPP was the game that introduced online battling.

But XY was the game that made that a lot easier. It made it easier for people building teams to set their IVs/EVs/natures which were a barrier to competitive battling.

Also DPP seems to be the most hated game in the series, judging from the pokemon boards.


It's not really any easier because people massively cheated for their Pokemon in the past. I don't think competitive battlers make up that big a portion of the fanbase to begin with. I'm surprised they ranked DPP in last. I would have guessed they would say RBY. That's also why you shouldn't listen to them.
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well, these matches look over.

how are people feeling about Halo/Minecraft tomorrow?
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we all know how well Halo holds up against games with "craft" in the title
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also does this video change anything with galaxy 2/mass effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Et481TNgE
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After Halo 3's flop I can see Minecraft doing well, even if it doesn't get a rally.
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Points 6/8
From what I hear Minecraft seems to be the one game that is the most popular with children nowadays.

So that depends on how much children are even relevant on gameFAQs,

And how much Halo has ceased to be.

I have the upset in my bracket, but I'm not sure about it.
Minecraft feels like just another high selling game that won't do well because people have no need to look up anything for it on gamefaqs.
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I think MCC and the general garbageness of the Xbone and Halo 4/5 ruined that franchise for a lot people, me included. I took Minecraft because I legit think it is stronger than Halo CE in 2015.
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lol xstats
I'm expecting Minecraft to be so weak that even Halo will look strong
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Minecraft is the hardest game to peg in the contest - not because of a rally, but because it could be a horrible casual game or a game everyone has familiarity with.
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Then again, it seems every game nowadays has a small number of FAQs. Gone are the days where every game had 15 walkthroughs, a boss FAQ, 10 collectible FAQs, etc...
Would you pick Minecraft to get 53% on Uncharted 2?
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LinkMarioSamus posted...
Would you pick Minecraft to get 53% on Uncharted 2?


Nope! Unless the kiddies rally, of course.
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I think people overestimate rally potential. League of Legends was a unique thing. It's really hard to rally very many votes just by going on Twitter and Facebook. It has to be a perfect storm of a lot of people in the same place, at the same time, who care enough to stop whatever their doing and vote. Forget that the Minecraft base probably doesn't need or care about Gamefaqs in the first place. Of course, it won't take much of a rally to beat Halo, and that's the issue in question.
voltch posted...
Minecraft feels like just another high selling game that won't do well because people have no need to look up anything for it on gamefaqs.


I don't even think people come here for FAQs anymore
GameFAQs is pretty much the established userbase from years ago and some people that want to talk about their video games

Nope! Unless the kiddies rally, of course.

As likely as Red Bird rally during the 2013 contest
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gearofages posted...
I think people overestimate rally potential. League of Legends was a unique thing. It's really hard to rally very many votes just by going on Twitter and Facebook. It has to be a perfect storm of a lot of people in the same place, at the same time, who care enough to stop whatever their doing and vote. Forget that the Minecraft base probably doesn't need or care about Gamefaqs in the first place. Of course, it won't take much of a rally to beat Halo, and that's the issue in question.


It's just that the LoL Subreddit is REALLY REALLY popular
Like, I can't even describe just how much

There are currently 20k people online there, which I think was also the same amount in 2013 (and there was some ongoing championship at that moment too, IIRC)
In comprasion there are only 600 online in Minecraft subreddit currently
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RBY absolutely got SFF'd by OoT in 2009. Are there people not believing that? I'm pretty sure that if replace OoT with whichever other game, RBY wins the poll or at the very least advances above FFX and Melee.
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I have rallied 11 votes for ToS via the Tales of... subreddit.
would anyone pick Halo to beat Uncharted 2 in 2015? I hope not
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iphonesience
11/7/2015 10:36:39 AM#190
creativename posted...
LeonhartFour posted...
rallying is the root of all evil

Even if it was against Pokemon? >_>


Correct.

Fighting evil with evil doesn't make it not evil!
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transcience posted...
would anyone pick Halo to beat Uncharted 2 in 2015? I hope not


I don't know. Last of Us could just be that legit.

And Halo 1 might be classic enough to avoid whatever befell 3
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LongLiveraytan
11/7/2015 10:44:43 AM#192
Also, X/Y has every reason to be weak. It doesn't need to be SFF here. I'm just saying it could be. I'm not sure why the age gap between the games necessarily matters.

I know people will automatically jump to "I can't see Pokemon X/Y losing to AC2!" as a reason why Wind Waker can win or whatever, but this is the "I can't see Mario Sunshine losing to Halo 3 because it's MARIO!" mindblock. If you're not one of the elite games in the series, you can lose to any popular game. AC2 could beat X/Y and I wouldn't bat an eye.
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I just picked Halo to win that without a second thought and saw that most of the board did so as well.

I guess the idea is that Halo is at least a proven midcarder.

Also I'd still pick Halo over Uncharted 2, doubt that game is much more popular now. Also, Halo 3 is probably more like MGS4 in that it fell off a cliff and the rest of the series isn't affected (at least as much).

I'd probably pick Sunshine > Halo 3 now since Halo 3 has been forgotten while Sunshine has been slowly gaining popularity. Although I also admit that it would be a fanboy pick.
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11/7/2015 10:47:01 AM#194
transience posted...
also does this video change anything with galaxy 2/mass effect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0Et481TNgE


Heck yeah N7 Day

I still feel kinda good about ME1 winning though. Nothing's really changed my mind about that from what we've seen thus far.
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I can only imagine what a MInecraft ASV would be.

ALL the kiddies would vote for it.

But the kiddies grew up.
That Sunday ASV

>_>
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Points 6/8
Sunday School church vote b
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Sunday After Church Vote
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kids are voting between Sunday School and main service now bro
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