GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1196
red sox 777 posted... For what it's worth, Fox was able to SFF Pikachu substantially way back in 2003. Since they both faced Cloud directly in 2002, Fox was projected to get around 60% on Pikachu and he got 67%. True (probably), but that was before the Pokemon boom. And those two were both in Smash. Which likely accounted for a good bit of Pikachu's strength then as the games were very weak. WW and X/Y have, like, literally almost nothing in common. KamikazePotato posted... lolilikeff8 posted...I don't know. I haven't followed these contests for a long while but, just from a general feeling, I'd have X/Y handily beating AC2. To me, WW is pulling off more impressive numbers than FFVI. Oh no. You're saying it like it's fact now :( Seriously, they were released *10* years apart! One is console and one is handheld! SFF makes no sense. (Damn I'm actually getting worked up here!) People shouldn't throw SFF around in every case where something differs heavily from predictions. Sometimes s*** is just what it is. X/Y has every reason to be weak without franchise voting. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
creativename posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...I dunno, GSC is probably a better indicator, and it did fine Or maybe it's possible that TWEWY is just weak. Neither the game nor its characters have shown any semblance of strength in these polls despite being a Square game. _Dog posted... I'm not buying X/Y being fodder, especially if R/B/Y is a contender for the championship. Both the SFF, overestimating Pokemon, and the WW > FF6 theories are more plausible. So are you gonna call A Link Between Worlds fodder then? Do you really think X/Y would struggle to beat Skies of Arcadia? I don't find either of those plausible. Again, I find it more plausible that: 1) WW is on its way to beat FF6 based on performances (as AC2's reason for getting slammed is far more plausible due to increased hate of the series in GameFAQs) or 2) Pokemon is being overestimated in general and Mario 3 will beat and possibly SFF R/B/Y, same with Melee vs. G/S/C. TWEWY is just that weak or 3) It's merely SFF and we cannot get a conclusion out of the match Again I don't buy X/Y losing to something like AC2. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
Xenogears
breaks 46% with a 14 vote cut and is down 3 votes for the hour with one
update to go. Let's see if it can crush the Total Domination Zone over
the next few hours. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
ToS has made 3 cuts in a row. Small ones, but hey. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
As
the self-proclaimed Expert In Pokemon Performance in Contests
(no,really, I didn't get a single Pokemon match wrong in the last 2
contests, including Mewtwo>Sonic and Squirtle>Cloud) let me
explain what is happening with Pokemon strength Pokemon popularity reached it's peak in the end of 2013, it was building up ever since the release of HGSS, increased even more by the release of BW2 and exploded by the release of XY XY was by far the most hyped Pokemon game, every video game news site you would go to, you would see articles about Pokemon Gamefreak really did a good job hyping it Every CoroCoro scan revealed some new Pokemon, new features in XY, and when they revealed that you can recieve the three Kanto starters EVERYONE were hyped Then they revealed the Pokemon Origins special, and people that even didn't care about XY (like my friends) suddenly showed interest in Pokemon They also made Charizard return to the anime, with a flash-back episode that showed scenes from the 11th episode of Pokemon XY put such a big nostalgia bomb on so many people, anyone that was surprised by Pokemon performance in the 2013 contest clearly lived under a rock Unfortunately, as I said, the end of 2013 was the peak..it all declined from there XY is getting less and less liked in the community with each passing day, you can see more and more people complaining about how easy it was, how they hate the Mega Pokemon feature, how there were so few new Pokemon and so on ORAS was released and was the most disappointing main-line Pokemon game, some people even wish it wasn't released We are now 1 year since the release of ORAS, nobody is talking about it for 10 months, there isn't a new mainline Pokemon game announced (even though Z was announced for the anime) and we, the fans, are wondering what the hell is going on with Pokemon You can say that among the fanbase, Pokemon is kinda like Metroid after Other M, and even when it's clear that unlike Metroid we WILL have a new game, we wonder if it's even going to be good ORAS was such a disappointment, you see Which is why it doesn't surprise me to see XY perfoming so bad, it's a "New Pokemon" game, we no longer care about it, if it was HGSS or BW2 it would have been a little stronger but not by a lot I even said yesterday that the spread betting for Wind Waker was too low, XY getting wrecked was not surprising and is not going to say anything Just look at it this like that - was N losing to Bayonetta meant anything about Pokemon strength? no, it did not RBY is going to be powerful, not going to be as strong as Pokemon in 2013 but it's not going to fold like XY to neither SMB3, SMW or SM64 (why is it even facing 3 Mario games jesus christ) --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
Yeah I suspected that X/Y is weaker now than it would have been even last year (56th on THE LIST!). Other M what? There was a Metroid released after the Prime Trilogy was finished? Back on topic, it's kinda eerie to see basically all the winners' percentages gradually decrease, and two of the matches are fairly close. And I expected better from KOTOR darn it! Speaking of which, I get why the series is so popular, but am I the only one who thinks the only particularly good Star Wars movie is The Empire Strikes Back? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 1:33:15 AM)report |
Nanis23 posted... As the self-proclaimed Expert In Pokemon Performance in Contests (no,really, I didn't get a single Pokemon match wrong in the last 2 contests, including Mewtwo>Sonic and Squirtle>Cloud) let me explain what is happening with Pokemon strength What a load of BS. Are you really saying that Gen 6 is comparable to Other M? That's really saying something, you know. I doubt X/Y is that hated in this website. A lot of people enjoy X/Y and OR/AS, and I believe it was overall better received then Gen 5. The complaints and whatnot have happened to every other Pokemon game before those, and those games aren't exactly weak, at least not to the point of getting tripled by Wind Waker. It also didn't prevent X/Y from nearly topping ALBW for GotY in GameFAQs. And if you're really saying that R/B/Y is not as strong as before, then that means Mario 3 has a real shot in taking it down, as Mario 3 is not exactly a game that'll roll over and die easily. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. (edited 11/7/2015 1:33:39 AM)report |
Would the Star Wars prequels have been a better comparison? Kinda bothers me, as someone who likes Other M and thought all the Star Wars prequels were crap. So it would be a better comparison for me! Plus the prequels treat Darth Vader, Yoda, and the droids a million times worse than Other M treats Samus. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 1:38:45 AM)report |
GameFAQS
followed critical opinion for the previous round, with the only upset
being MGS4 losing to KH II. Not that it really mattered considering MGS4
would've lost to TLOU anyway. This round is also going for critical opinion! Paper Mario/ToS and KoToR/Xenogears closer than I expected though. |
_Dog posted... What a load of BS. Are you really saying that Gen 6 is comparable to Other M? That's really saying something, you know. I doubt X/Y is that hated in this website. Are you the one spending hours in the Pokemon community or me? I know what I am talking about Mario 3 has a shot at taking it down, SMW and SM64 as well 52-48 in favor of Pokemon, more or lose, it's probably NOT beating FFVII (unless it really fell off) --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 |
RyoCaliente posted... GameFAQS followed critical opinion for the previous round, with the only upset being MGS4 losing to KH II. Not that it really mattered considering MGS4 would've lost to TLOU anyway. I'd say I'm surprised that Xenogears is doing so well considering how weak it looked in BGE2, but yeah Final Fantasy VIII SFF. To think such a divisive game like FFVIII could SFF something. Just curious, what do you guys think of FFVIII in comparison to FFVII? And I'm not talking about contest strength. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I just woke up and I checked the results. I have to say... 1st match=Didn't expect FF 6 to win that much. I am a fan of AC series but we get 1 game(sometimes 2!)per year so of course people will start hating that. 2nd match and 3rd match=I am not suprised here, anyone can win. 4th match=Pokemon X/Y losing that badly? Man nobody cares about the new games it seems. --- Why do we exist?What happens when we stop existing? |
I
just thought X/Y was well-received is all. Resident Evil 5 would
probably be a much better comparison. Maybe Prometheus for a non-game
example. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Hmm... Interesting stuff Nanis, thanks! I hope you are correct about R/B. It would be nice not to have it in the final. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
With
how much Wind Waker has been dropping its chances of scoring the upset
over FFVI are getting more and more slim, especially since FFVI seems to
have stabilized against AC2. Good job breaking 70% on Pokemon but
yeah. Just FYI, FFX/Half-Life and The Last of Us/Halo 3 are the only matches so far where the older game lost. If today's matches ended right away then TTYD/ToS and KOTOR/Xenogears would make for an additional two. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 2:17:19 AM)report |
It
just occurred to me that the reason why FFVI doesn't seem to be
dropping much compared to the other games currently winning their
matches is that it's a night-oriented game while Zelda, Paper Mario, and
Xbox stuff have all proven to be day champs. Admittedly in the former
two cases it's lessened a good deal by Pokemon and Tales of Symphonia
not exactly being day chumps. I imagine that TTYD's ASV will probably bail it out while Wind Waker would use its ASV for damage control (IIRC Pokemon is better at night than most Nintendo stuff). --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Stay strong my TTYD. One of my all-time top ten games. FF6 is still the favorite for me but I'm really liking WW's chances now. Maybe finally Zelda will stop FF's ridiculous winning streak? --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IX - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729662 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
LinkMarioSamus posted... I imagine that TTYD's ASV will probably bail it out while Wind Waker would use its ASV for damage control (IIRC Pokemon is better at night than most Nintendo stuff). Zelda is also really bad with the night vote, which is why Pokemon is gaining percentage on Wind Waker. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
TTYD is going for a very slow comeback. Xenogears isn't doing bad either but it's just cutting % and basically not going anywhere. |
-LusterSoldier- posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...I imagine that TTYD's ASV will probably bail it out while Wind Waker would use its ASV for damage control (IIRC Pokemon is better at night than most Nintendo stuff). This came to mind too, yes. In other news, I see Paper Mario is below 52% for the first time all match. Neither of these games is probably all that strong TBH. The winner probably gets doubled by FFVI. Odd how Paper Mario is bleeding the most percentage...though I suppose when a match is close votes affect the percents more. I feel like KOTOR and Zelda are starting to stabilize and they should both be able to use the ASV to make at least minor gains. And I still think it's cool to see one of my favorite games breaking 70%, especially on something from a series that has wreaked havoc on our past few contests. I'm going to be kicking myself if Wind Waker beats FFVI since I didn't pick it - just didn't feel like making a fanboy pick there lol. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 2:48:06 AM)report |
WW>FF6
is happening and i have it in my bracket.Ever since the Majora's Mask
shambles i'll never doubt Zelda on this site again. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
Not_Wylvane posted... Stay strong my TTYD. One of my all-time top ten games. Yes, TTYD is such an amazing game! I think it's a bit underrated really. |
The
reason I didn't pick Wind Waker over FFVI is because FFVI stuff has
done very well on the site the past few years (contests, top 100 list,
FFVI > FFVII poll lol) while Wind Waker has never done anything much
in contests. Let's see: -2004: Lazy wins over Skies of Arcadia and Metroid Prime, allows StarCraft to make a huge comeback at the end to kill it off on a console-centric site that generally loves Zelda especially...although thinking about it, Zelda stuff didn't start look especially indomitable until Twilight Princess was announced. -2009: Biggest achievement is not getting completely SFFd into the ground by Melee. Hey let's lose to another Blizzard game in R2! On a side note, is Diablo II worth playing for someone who loves StarCraft but isn't at all interested in WRPGs? -2010: Lazy wins over God of War II, Assassin's Creed II, and Oblivion (although I actually had Oblivion > WW lol), gets royally murdered by Majora's Mask. Of course made to look better in the long run due to MGS3 doing even worse and MM winning the contest. Really feels like a game that gets by just on its series' name when you think about it. I know WW is considerably less hated and more highly-regarded now than it was during GOTD but that's a hard stigma to shake off, plus on this nostalgia-tinted site who knows? Just a few not contest-related points relating to Zelda: -While Wind Waker has plenty of problems (yes I'm admitting this even though I love the game so much), I never got why people raged at the art style when the game was first revealed. Zelda was never a particularly "mature"-looking series, and Twilight Princess just looks all the more out of place in light of that. -A reason for the "Zelda cycle" is probably the series' target audience being more towards younger gamers than older ones who may have played earlier Zeldas. It's the reason for the series ungodly broken base which just annoys me to no end. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Paper Mario v Tales is heating up! --- http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr263/crypto_magnum/Polycosm_sig.jpg |
BTW I'm assuming that no one thinks Wind Waker loses to Diablo II straight-up, even in '09, right? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Tales
of Symphonia is winning the night vote because of the combined strength
of Asia and Europe. While Paper Mario is winning in the UK, most of
Europe is supporting Tales of Symphonia. Paper Mario will be in trouble if the US morning vote favors Tales here. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
It's 6am EST now, so start of morning vote? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
AC2
is yet another victim of steep decline. I don't have that much faith in
any series on this site that isn't among the site faves - the Big Three
of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario. Along with Pokemon and Smash. There are some exceptions - Chrono Trigger, MGS and RE4. I'm a little worried about MGS and RE4, but I think they'll still remain exceptions. Not sure what to call this theory. NarrowMindedFAQs? Basically everything that isn't a top 5 franchise or one of the few exceptions, will drop in strength faster than the site favorite franchises. Anyone have thoughts on the accuracy of this notion going forward? What matches might signal that this may be true? --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I
want to have faith in Metroid due to Samus's performances in the past
few contests, Prime doing well in GOTD, and Prime and Super both doing
well in THE LIST, but perhaps it's unfounded. We'll see how they fare against Half-Life 2 and Mario Galaxy. They both more or less have byes in R1 (though very occasionally I fear that Prime might lose to Morrowind, and it probably would on a lot of other sites). --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
TTYD/ToS is currently in a big stall, though TTYD just pushed above 400 the most recent update. AC2 is doing horribly likely because the AC franchise has been going downhill. Unity being a massive mess in particular has soured people on the series, plus Ubisoft's games becoming more and more formulaic in general. As for Oblivion, that game is the Elder Scrolls equivalent to Brawl. I think it'll lose to SMRPG (or at best win by a small margin) but it won't really hint toward the strength of other Bethesda games. The game was pretty decisive among Morrowind fans and was mainly a draw from being one of the first big games for the 360. Skyrim ended up netting a significantly larger base and lacked many of the big flaws Oblivion had, in particular its horrible leveling system. That's just my take, of course. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IX - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729662 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Fast
forward 5 years later and Nintendo/Square are even more dominant than
before, if MGS/RE4/Skyrim do not live up to expectations, then this
really is a homogenous site where users only appreciate games from the 2
aforementioned companies. --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. (edited 11/7/2015 3:40:44 AM)report |
Not_Wylvane posted... AC franchise has been going downhill. Time for Prince of Persia revival..! Honestly I hate AC the most because it killed the PoP franchise That and because the hype for ACII after AC was such a bad game is one of the weirdest things in the Internet ever --- 3DS FC : 3411-1762-0066 (edited 11/7/2015 3:44:38 AM)report |
I
don't think we're "narrow minded" any more than usual. we've always
been a slave to our big franchises and our top games are all the same. I've made large arguments about how the site shift over the last several years pushes it towards the 90s and that's how I've interpreted everything thus far. Xenogears isn't winning here but it's putting up a great fight against a game that put 47% on FF9. Xenogears isn't some huge series either. I could be wrong but so far I like my 90s theory. the only exception thus far is this Zelda match which I'm just not willing to put much stock into just because it involves Pokemon and I will never understand why Pokemon performs the way that it does. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Wait, do people really think WW is going to beat FF6? Because of this match? What! --- satoru iwata |
yeah
I'm not seeing it either. FF6 is putting up either the first or second
most impressive performance thus far. not including Zelda/Pokemon in
that because who knows. I personally think that there's RBY/GSC Pokemon
and then modern day Pokemon and that they are completely different
audiences. this newish Pokemon can be SFF'd while the old stuff is a
weird nostalgia beast that no one can touch. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Nanis23 posted... Not_Wylvane posted...AC franchise has been going downhill. I know AC1 was heavily hyped, I think it was mostly because AC1 was still very popular in spite of being perceived as a big disappointment? The one time we saw AC1 in a contest it got 36% on MGS4. Who the heck knows what that means now? --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
-Zelmor- posted... Fast forward 5 years later and Nintendo/Square are even more dominant than before, if MGS/RE4/Skyrim do not live up to expectations, then this really is a homogenous site where users only appreciate games from the 2 aforementioned companies. More dominant? In terms of characters Nintendo and Square have been rather down. It's probably just the site retreating into nostalgia heaven and not caring about most newer releases. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I've got Sonic 2 in round 3 and now i'm starting to get the 1 less bracket vibes. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
I'm feeling pretty good about Sonic winning twice, actually. --- I don't know how much you know about women, but Dr. Pizza is an expert. - The Mana Sword |
creativename posted... AC2 is yet another victim of steep decline. I don't have that much faith in any series on this site that isn't among the site faves - the Big Three of Zelda, Final Fantasy, Mario. Along with Pokemon and Smash. AC2 looked pretty impressive during GotD against Wind Waker, but I had a hard time thinking that it would maintain the same level of strength it had back then. 5 years have passed since then and the series has been run into the ground with at least one major game from that series released every year since 2009. That can't be good for the long-term health of the series. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
LinkMarioSamus posted... I just thought X/Y was well-received is all. Resident Evil 5 would probably be a much better comparison. Maybe Prometheus for a non-game example. Theres a difference between well received and people loving it. I can enjoy a game but i have no interest in giving it my votes against better games. --- http://k09.kn3.net/1256263BF.gif |
Yeah but Nanis spoke of X/Y as if it was Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 4:10:07 AM)report |
Looks like TTYD's decline is slowing down, KOTOR is starting to pull away, and FFVI is starting to decline. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
TTYD/ToS has been a complete stallfest the past 90 minutes or so. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IX - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729662 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Not_Wylvane posted... TTYD/ToS has been a complete stallfest the past 90 minutes or so. ToS just broke the 400 barrier again. Which probably means Paper Mario will probably rebuild it next update. |
As
far as the whole narrow minded idea goes, I'm not sure it's that
GameFAQs only likes a handful of series, but rather, it's more
centralized around a certain time period. Many of these new games were
fresh and exciting in 2009-2010, when Western developers were dominating
and bringing these whole new games to the table and GameFAQs had a
wider audience. In 2015, many of these games have no staying power or impact. They were cool for a little bit, but who really considers AC2 a top 10 or 20 game, you know? Against a classic like FF6, it's gonna totally roll over. We've got such a smalle, older audience that games from the 90s, games people grew up playing and still feel like the best games in their series, are probably gonna steamroll a lot of these lesser new games. I think games like RE4 and MGS1 have classic status that should keep them strong. Skyrim is probably another one of those, but Batman and Assassin's Crees? No chance. --- satoru iwata |
has anyone tried to analyze vote trends in the Oblivion matches? not that I think vote trends are going to be especially clear.. but may as well. --- add the c and back away iphonesience |
Been
going on for longer than that. They've been locked within the same
110-vote range (380 - 490 lead for Paper Mario) for the last 5 hours and
10 minutes. This is the second time Tales has pushed Paper Mario back under 400 since Paper Mario originally broke the threshold. Good match. --- http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr263/crypto_magnum/Polycosm_sig.jpg (edited 11/7/2015 4:42:56 AM)report |
