GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1196
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Rally
your facebook friends Leon! I tried messaging the "Tales of..." series
group on facebook. And I posted a message on the Tales of fan page on FB |
will the dead zone even get 300 votes total? lead is insurmountable >_> --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
POOTERSS posted... Rally your facebook friends Leon! I tried messaging the "Tales of..." series group on facebook. And I posted a message on the Tales of fan page on FB rallying is the root of all evil --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I wish ToS would just die or do something interesting already --- Board 8's Greatest Beard Band - Chairmen of the Beard http://www.youtube.com/BeardAwesome |
xp1337 posted... will the dead zone even get 300 votes total? 300 votes per update for all 4 matches combined? --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... xp1337 posted...will the dead zone even get 300 votes total? I was kidding, but I meant an individual match. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to Hate. Hate...leads to rallying. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
Match over. Nothing to see here. --- XBL Gamertag - Tiirshak PSN ID - Kudaark Steam Name : skaalfa |
So people agree Pokemon didn't get SFFd by Zelda in 2009, right? I'm not super confident in my bracket by any stretch, but Wind Waker > FF6 is looking really good. I have a lot of faith in the 3DS remake. --- Winner of the Spring 2004 "Best Game Ever" Contest "F*** Draven." -SBAllen |
modern pokemon appears to really be just that weak. Shame, Pokemon games are my FIFA/Madden. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. http://i.minus.com/iN5ZHjUDyI547.gif |
Reminder
that Assassin's Creed 1 and 2 were well above Pokemon R/S/E and D/P/Pt
in the GotD x-stats (and ACII got 40% on Wind Waker directly
incidently). Even assuming no SFF in the Wind Waker match today there's
still room to spare for Assassin's Creed to have fallen off a cliff and
still have today's results suggest FFVI > WW --- This was my signature, but Raytan, 2013 Guru champion, took it away. |
As
I said in another topic, AC2 strength in 2010 might not be that
comparable to the present strength. The series has went into a full-on
trainwreck and nobody really has any respect for it anymore. It's still a
tossup in my eyes. --- http://i.imgur.com/l7xxLh1.jpg |
UltimaterializerX posted... I'm not super confident in my bracket by any stretch, but Wind Waker > FF6 is looking really good. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4163-northwest-division-round-2-zelda-wind-waker-vs-assassins ...! --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
also
just because R/B/Y resisted SFF against OoT doesn't mean Pokemon can't
be SFF'd. I'd imagine that would really only apply to R/B/Y and maybe
G/S/C. The newer generations are nothing special. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
Yeah, I have WW > FFVI and I don't think this is a good day for it. i'm going down with that ship though i'm going down with a lot of ships this contest --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? |
Xenogears
just needed a little more. Both matches look pretty over with normal
trends. Although.....with such low votals, rallying can work wonders --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Cut #4 for Xenogears. Let's start making these more regular. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
red sox 777 posted... Cut #4 for Xenogears. Let's start making these more regular. followed by a really bad update for Tales and Xenogears --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
rallied about 5 votes for ToS on facebook! |
POOTERSS posted... rallied about 5 votes for ToS on facebook! #gamechanger |
I think FFVI still has it. XY would need to get like 55% on AC2 to suggest WW has a chance. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
Best 500th post --- 8/8 pts - The GameFAQs' 20th Anniversary Best. Game. Ever. Contest! NP: Final Fantasy VI/Paper Mario: TYD/Star Wars KOTOR/Zelda WW |
POOTERSS posted... rallied about 5 votes for ToS on facebook! And ToS gets a one vote cut on the next update after that post. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
I don't get where WW > FFVI is coming from. It beat VII in a 1v1 poll --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
FFVI
with an average performance, while Zelda puts up a similar percentage
against a stronger series. There could be an upset yet. Shame to see Xenogears go close as given just a slightly weaker opponent it could have surprised everyone. Tales trying to make a match of it but every cut seems to result in a bigger gain for Mario, so it's probably over. |
LeonhartFour posted... also just because R/B/Y resisted SFF against OoT doesn't mean Pokemon can't be SFF'd. I'd imagine that would really only apply to R/B/Y and maybe G/S/C. The newer generations are nothing special. So Pokemon's strength is all from nostalgia? --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
pjbasis posted... I don't get where WW > FFVI is coming from. Take a look at the front page results~ |
LinkMarioSamus posted... I think FFVI still has it. XY would need to get like 55% on AC2 to suggest WW has a chance. when you put it that way, now I think Wind Waker has a better chance then I did before! (edited 11/7/2015 12:13:36 AM)report |
No RBY is the best in the franchise and GSC is second. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
I'd sooner trust where I think VII is at then comparin ACII to XY Nintendo SFF --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png LongLiveraytan |
This puts Xenogears at around Chrono Cross level, I think. Not bad. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
21 cut for ToP! --- IGN: Raymond, 3DS FC: 1349-7340-1111 (ORAS) / 3DS FC #2:4785-7678-2315 (XY & Rumble World) http://myanimelist.net/animelist/raytan7585 |
tiny cuts gobbled up by the machine. --- Dr voltchball - best in the world. http://i.minus.com/iN5ZHjUDyI547.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... rallying is the root of all evil Even if it was against Pokemon? >_> LeonhartFour posted... also just because R/B/Y resisted SFF against OoT doesn't mean Pokemon can't be SFF'd. I'd imagine that would really only apply to R/B/Y and maybe G/S/C. The newer generations are nothing special. Until I see evidence of Pokemon getting SFFed, I don't buy it. Pokemon is almost it's own genre. And it's handheld, which no other games of real note are. It's got real underlying reasons for being unique. And why would an old game like WW SFF a new game like X/Y? That doesn't make sense. I think X/Y is just trash. Sadly I predicted 60% out of Pokefear :( But I don't think this reflects much on R/B. However it certainly doesn't send the positive signal that it could have. For R/B this result can *mostly* be ignored, but it has to be in the back of your heads a little bit. If R/B fails to meet expectations, this would have been the first warning sign against it. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I dunno, GSC is probably a better indicator, and it did fine |
creativename posted... LeonhartFour posted...rallying is the root of all evil I'm not buying X/Y being fodder, especially if R/B/Y is a contender for the championship. Both the SFF, overestimating Pokemon, and the WW > FF6 theories are more plausible. We'll have our answers shortly. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... LinkMarioSamus posted...I think FFVI still has it. XY would need to get like 55% on AC2 to suggest WW has a chance. You might be right if this site is still into Pokemon, which GSC's blowout win suggests...although a game that lost to Dead Rising in GOTD, really? I thought that X/Y just fell off in popularity because it's no longer so new. For what it's worth on last year's top 100 X/Y was 56th while AC2 was nowhere in sight. Ulti will of course show this as yet more proof that Pokemon continues to fold against Mario and Zelda (alongside Majora's Mask > GSC and Mario/Bowser > Red/Blue). And I hope he doesn't mind me correcting, but Wind Waker's remake was on Wii U and not 3DS. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil (edited 11/7/2015 12:33:10 AM)report |
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4170-east-division-round-3-pokemon-platinum-vs-smash-bros-brawl At the very least, Brawl definitely SFFd Platinum in this match. I think New Pokemon is definitely a different beast from the RBY and GSC era which just...kind of has a different fanbase, really. They barely act like they're from the same series at all, and it's because people that like New Pokemon and people that like Old Pokemon don't overlap NEARLY as much as in any other series. Old Pokemon people played it and then moved on, and hold strong nostalgic feelings for it, while people that play New Pokemon just want to move on from the old games. I don't think this result means anything for RBY whatsoever. The games past GSC are just different. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Denzokuken posted... FFVI with an average performance, while Zelda puts up a similar percentage against a stronger series. There could be an upset yet.. How is this "average" for FF6 but good for WW? FF6 is 10+ points above most predictions and WW is well above 10 points beyond expectations. Both are doing great, but against fodder. So it tells us little. If I could redo my bracket I'd still pick FF6. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
For
what it's worth, Fox was able to SFF Pikachu substantially way back in
2003. Since they both faced Cloud directly in 2002, Fox was projected
to get around 60% on Pikachu and he got 67%. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
KP might be right but that sounds a bit contrived. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
I
don't know. I haven't followed these contests for a long while but,
just from a general feeling, I'd have X/Y handily beating AC2. To me, WW
is pulling off more impressive numbers than FFVI. AC2 looked much
stronger in the past, but I struggle to see it as the type of game that
remains memorable to many years later. --- ~*The true...goal of SeeD... To spread... seeds all over the world... ...Flower... Fill the world with flowers.*~ TheCruelAngel (edited 11/7/2015 12:38:07 AM)report |
red sox 777 posted... For what it's worth, Fox was able to SFF Pikachu substantially way back in 2003. Since they both faced Cloud directly in 2002, Fox was projected to get around 60% on Pikachu and he got 67%. Of course this was back when the site hated Pokemon (lol), but yeah. --- "Nothing I could do!" -Darksydephil |
lolilikeff8 posted... I don't know. I haven't followed these contests for a long while but, just from a general feeling, I'd have X/Y handily beating AC2. To me, WW is pulling off more impressive numbers than FFVI. I don't think either of these results matter too much. One is SFF and AC2 just has reason to be significantly weaker than it was before. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I'm
way more confident in FFVI > WW than I probably should be based on
results within the past few years, but it feels right. If there's one
FF/Zelda matchup where the Nintendo fanbase will have the hardest time
convincing themselves they are the underdogs/heroes, it's this one. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... I dunno, GSC is probably a better indicator, and it did fine Among many reasons I think this can mostly be ignored. _Dog posted... I'm not buying X/Y being fodder, especially if R/B/Y is a contender for the championship. Both the SFF, overestimating Pokemon, and the WW > FF6 theories are more plausible. X/Y has every reason to be fodder - fans of the old games have never played it. This site really did drastically cut down their video game playing around 2006-2010 (probably due to entering or graduating college). And especially of Pokemon games. I thought it would get franchise voting, but on it's own merits it logically should be weaksauce. --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
SMB3 will 70-30 RBY. --- Formerly known as Dilated Chemist |
KOTOR by the hour: 1:00 | 56.19% 2:00 | 52.71% 3:00 | 53.87% Huge dropoff from 1st to 2nd hour for KOTOR, but it has a nice recovery in the third hour. So far, 4th hour looks very close to even, Xenogears has got a shot at winning it. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
Based on Crono/Vincent 2007 trends, Xenogears wins with 52.01%. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
