GameFAQs Contests
Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1195
Dwarven Vow #7: Justice and love will always win! ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~ https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 ~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
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Man, forget Chrono Trigger. Melee may very well get a run from Gold Silver Crystal |
EmDubyaSee posted... Man, forget Chrono Trigger. Melee may very well get a run from Gold Silver Crystal GSC/RBY semifinal. PokeFEAR just took GotD off to let us feel good. --- http://i.imgur.com/M1heX2g.jpg RIP Paul Bearer. Ohhhh nooooo. :( |
But MM had drones --- Your signature is automatically appended to the bottom of every post you make. Your 'About Me' message is displayed on your profile page. You can include any in |
so we're going to get another epic Metroid Prime v Half Life 2 round 2 again. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4182-northeast-division-final-metroid-prime-vs-half-life-2 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4189-final-rounds-quarterfinal-fallout-3-vs-metroid-prime I'm hoping Prime is stronger these days. |
LeonhartFour posted... people said that about Majora's Mask too MM was an OoT Proxy. Not the same. Watch MM flop in this tournament. |
LeonhartFour posted... people said that about Majora's Mask too Yeah, and MM turned out to be between the 3rd to 5th strongest game on the site. Melee pretty damn clearly is not. |
EmDubyaSee posted... MM turned out to be between the 3rd to 5th strongest game on the site. one less bracket --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
But just look at Melee's opponents. LolPokemon its not RBY We all know how much on the rise Square games are. Melee isn't getting threatened until it runs into FF7. |
LeonhartFour posted... EmDubyaSee posted...MM turned out to be between the 3rd to 5th strongest game on the site. I have ALttP winning too. But anyone who thinks MM is just gonna roll over is wrong. And even if it DOES lose, there is literally no other game except those 2 (and RBY) that are in that debate. (assuming VII is still #2, which who knows). None of the Mario games have done anything remotely impressive as MM. Super Mario World and 64 are at most #6, and then depends on that CT boost, and where TP really is, cause MM did not bury it. |
spooky96 posted... But just look at Melee's opponents. It's true there won't be a threatening in the Melee CT match, but that is because Chrono Trigger is going to run it over. |
EmDubyaSee posted... LeonhartFour posted...people said that about Majora's Mask too Melee is up there in the top 10 easily. It's hard to tell since The GOTD was just games from 2000 onwards when probably 8 of the top 10 strongest games on this site are from the 90's. Also I don't care how well Melee does. I wanted another Melee v Brawl so I coud see Melee tear Brawl apart from the farce that happened before. |
Januzaj_Dragon posted... EmDubyaSee posted...LeonhartFour posted...people said that about Majora's Mask too Easy? No, not easy. We know the 3 Zelda games, 2 Mario games, Pokemon, and FF VII are top 10. So at highest it's 8. It's pretty clearly behind CT, so at most it is 9. Number 9 is not easily top 10. Now the question becomes FFX (probably not) TP and FF VI vs Melee. It might be barely outside of the top 10, but realistically, it's probably #10 on the dot. |
what game did Majora not even get 51% on in the final and we're saying it's easily a top 5 game and Melee isn't in the top 10 so unless you think the difference between the top 5 and the top 15 is like 2% I don't know what to tell you --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
If
Melee > FFX, its actually only a gap of 200 votes MM has to work
with. I'd agree SSBM/B, MM, and FFX are at the bottom of the top 10
though, or just outside depending on how things play out. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 NEVER FORGET. |
You
know, it didn't occur to me until just now, but we have our three
renowned day vote champs (Smash, KH, and Halo) in a poll all on the same
day. Should be interesting to see how they all compare with the trends. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
LeonhartFour posted... what game did Majora not even get 51% on in the final Smash has fallen. Brawl was almost ASSUREDLY the #4 game on this site (hell, maybe #3) when that happened, and only lost because of some weird MM=OoT thing that was going on. I don't know if Brawl is even top 20 right now. That year I would have taken Melee to just god stomp CT, and this year, it's not even gonna be a close match, CT is going to beat it without breaking a sweat. And I said Melee was probably top 10. I have a tough time seeing FF VI being stronger than Melee. But it's at least possible, hence why everyone keeps talking about that FF VII v VI match upset that has 0% chance of occurring. |
Melee is stronger now than back then. Most of Brawls popularity migrated back into Melee and the 3DS/WiiU game. So as of 2015 BRawl as a standalone game is very weak. Melee will always be super strong. Probably now more so than ever since it's basically the game smash fans will vote for. As for Top 10..I don't even know actually. we'll find out after this contest tsince theres no generational bias. Like I would love to see a Fallout 3 vs Super Mario world. 1) OoT 2) FFVII - Chrono Trigger - Zelda LttP - Super Mario 64 - Pokemon Red/Blue - Final Fantasy X - Melee - Zelda MM(not even sure MM is that strong tbh) I'm debating about a few others. (edited 11/6/2015 1:47:35 PM)report |
I think FF6 is stronger than FFX. |
I dunno about Melee being stronger, but it most likely hasn't lost a step at least |
spooky96 posted... I think FF6 is stronger than FFX. After the Remasters? Nah. |
we'll see if you feel the same way when FF6 goes to town today --- xyzzy |
1337gamerpr0 posted... I dunno about Melee being stronger, but it most likely hasn't lost a step at least 'm just talking in general. As more and more smash games come out then the previous games will grow in strength too but It's like the more games come out there will alwas be one that has that nostalgic power. Melee being the one. So for example When Smash NX comes out the Wii U version would have died down just like Brawl did. And so on but Melee will always be there. |
Januzaj_Dragon posted... EmDubyaSee posted...LeonhartFour posted...people said that about Majora's Mask too I smell a salty Melee fanboy here. No way is Brawl that weak, and the Smash Wii U board does not have a favorable view of Melee, and so none of Brawl's strength has gone back to Melee. --- Ole, ole, ole, ole. Ole! Ole! (Accents and inverted !-marks missing) On a bet with three other users on if a certain girl genie will be in Smash; I say no. |
LeonhartFour posted... Dwarven Vow #7: Justice and love will always win! Leon I LOVE U! |
transience posted... we'll see if you feel the same way when FF6 goes to town today Against Assassins Creed 2. |
_Dog posted... Januzaj_Dragon posted...EmDubyaSee posted...LeonhartFour posted...people said that about Majora's Mask too Some of it clearly has. Since theres no pure division. only abotu 10% of brawls fanbase dislikes Melee and probably a larger chunk of Melees fanbase dislikes Brawl...hence why Brawl got weaker. ok tear apart was an exaggeration but clearly Melee would comfortably beat Brawl these days. Theres a reason why it didn't get nominated. People moved on hence they don't give a s*** about it as much as they use to. Also I think you have to consider what console SmashU is on. It's not going to do anything special in this tournament. So To suggest brawls strength has now gone to SmashU is a bit of a stretch. I wouldn't be surprised to see SmashU get knocked out by Galaxy 2 (edited 11/6/2015 2:00:15 PM)report |
I think Melee isn't the worldkiller is looked like in GotD anymore --- Board 8's Voice of Reason http://i.imgur.com/chXIw06.jpg |
Did
anyone ever contact Bacon about the lack of leaderboards/bracket stats?
Was wondering if their absence was a mistake or intentional. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy IX - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3729662 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
None of the GOTD games are tbh. A lot of the 90's games are just juggernauts. You can't beat pure Nostalgia. |
Well, the contest homepage / rules page did mention of leaderboards. Probably delayed? |
If
G/S/C beats Melee, I could see it go to the semifinals. Also that would
mean R/B/Y Would probably beat SMB3. And it too would go to the
semifinals. --- Video Games are pretty cool. (edited 11/6/2015 2:17:01 PM)report |
Allen has been slow to set up leaderboards in the past. Hopefully we can get them before this set of matches ends. --- http://i.imgur.com/3DwCNLJ.gif |
I remember one of the contests took several days to get the leader board up. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
Can't believe people are bringing up this MM = OoT crap again. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
Melee with pseudo-joke trends this match. And a MGS game did better with the day vote than the night vote against a Kingdom Hearts game? That seems so backwards. Even Halo did almost nothing with the day vote. Trends are so much less fun these days! I miss old trends :( --- www.gamefaqscontests.com www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery |
I remember one of the contests took several days to get the leader board up. The first games contest took until almost the end of the second round --- BGE3: Today's Matches SSBM>Portal, Pokemon GSC>TWEWY, KHII>MGS4, TLoU>Halo 3 Points 2/4 |
My laptop hasn't been repaired and I'm literally surviving on a smartphone. Phone GFAQs is so annoying to use. >_< |
whatisurnameplz posted... Can't believe people are bringing up this MM = OoT crap again. Noone said =. If MM was = OoT it would have doubled everything. But Clearly MM had no business being that strong. IT only beat FFX due to a ridiculous rally. (edited 11/6/2015 2:22:18 PM)report |
This is what I believe are, right now, 11/6/15, the current top 10 games on this site in a contest setting like this: 1) Pokemon Red/Blue 2) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3) Super Mario 64 4) Final Fantasy VII 5) The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask 6) Chrono Trigger 7) The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past 8) Pokemon G/S/C 9) League of Legends 10) Super Smash Bros.(N64) Honorable mentions would be these games: 11) The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 12) Super Mario World 13) Super Mario Bros. 3 14) Final Fantasy X 15) The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker 16) Fallout 3 17) Starcraft 18) Final Fantasy VI 19) Super Smash Bros. Melee 20) Pokemon X/Y 10 thru 20 are all very close, I don't think any of these games would lose with more than 45% if they faced off against each other. Also considered: Smash Bros. Brawl, Mass Effect 2, The Legend of Zelda(NES), Super Mario Bros(NES), Metal Gear Solid 1 and 3, Okami, Skyrim, Super Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, Super Metroid (edited 11/6/2015 2:23:39 PM)report |
League of Legends is either number 1 or somewhere in the 100s. --- BGE3: Today's Matches SSBM>Portal, Pokemon GSC>TWEWY, KHII>MGS4, TLoU>Halo 3 Points 2/4 |
Very wrong list IMO. |
There goes bracket. --- Conformity and rebellion...both ways are simple-minded--they are only for people who cannot cope with contradiction and ambiguity. |
POOTERSS posted... This is what I believe are, right now, 11/6/15, the current top 10 games on this site in a contest setting like this: Huh????? --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. |
spooky96 posted... Very wrong list IMO. which games do you think are wrong Spooky? League maybe? Pokemon RBY being that high? Starcraft? |
I know day vote has diluted but MGS actually coping well in the day against KH is just incredible. --- Man is not the creature of circumstances. Circumstances are the creatures of man. |
Januzaj_Dragon posted... whatisurnameplz posted...Can't believe people are bringing up this MM = OoT crap again. After its previous performances I'm sure MM would've kept it close at least. --- http://img.imgcake.com/whatisurnameplz/kermitgifre.gif Oh yea, I guess raytan won. |
