someone rally the Persona facebook page!
WTF Dragon Quest VIII is going up. Never thought it could do this well. That's two contests in a row where the series did unexpectedly well - and we probably shouldn't have expected differently.

The other three matches seem to have stabilized, though MMX and CT seem to be slowly decreasing. FFX/HL1 just seems to have no real pattern to it, and it's not helping that both those games are night-oriented.
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I am surprised this site doesn't actually like DQ even more. It's as old-school JRPG as they get. Even recent releases play like JRPGs from the 90s.
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DQ is only popular in Japan. Outside it has always had trouble selling.
Yeah, Dragon Quest doesn't carry any nostalgia or impact for most of the voters here. DQ8 was the first time since maybe the original that people took notice of DQ again. It sold well and was super well received, though. Something like DQ8 is totally on its own strengths as a beloved game, rather than any franchise voting. P3 always seemed like it needed the help of other, more popular games in its series to carry it further. That's why I went DQ8. Well, that and DQ is my favorite RPG series!
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Besides if the DQ franchise impacted the west like it did Japan, DQVIII probably isn't that much stronger, DQV would be the monster of that series.

Just like how not all FFs are equal in strength.
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charmander6000 posted...
Now I wished Persona 4 had a debatable match


Yeah, that would be fun. But Persona 4 can be utterly terrible and still win its match.
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voltch posted...
Chrono Trigger es numero uno.


Ok if this gets spammed everywhere during CT/FFX I will be very happy, just saying.
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I don't get how Persona 4 exploded on the gaming scene yet Persona 3 was just left as some niche game.I'm going with the yellow colour scheme standing out.
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X-stats using Game of the Decade results, Half-Life/OoT in 2009 (the other games in that match were FFIX and CC), and assuming CT and FFX finish at 85% at 65% respectively:

Ocarina of Time: 50.00%
Chrono Trigger: 44.25%
Final Fantasy X: 30.43%
Half-Life: 21.30%
Golden Sun: 20.90%
San Andreas: 19.36%
Ratchet & Clan: UYA: 13.27%

...Well. While I don't think that's going to be accurate at all, I don't envy FFX's chances against CT.
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I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.
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Persona 4 vs Chrono Cross

who you got
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charmander6000 posted...
Vote total wise it looks like we're heading between 27-29k.


Damn, are votals that frontloaded nowadays? I would think we would have at least to 11:30 before we got to the halfway point.
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GranzonEx posted...
Persona 4 vs Chrono Cross

who you got


Chrono Cross.
It's probably stronger than people think.
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Seriously, Who in the hell is "Draven?" (Sounds like a draggy crow.)
Sadly I would now have to pick CC over P4 too. But I will remain in denial and say that it would still be 50-50!
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cyko posted...
I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.


The fact that Persona is not liked much on this site is a crime in itself.They're turn based old skool style RPGs with brilliant casts of characters and decent stories.O wait i forgot it's not made and/or on a Nintendo system and it's not a Square game.It's failed on all the key features that makes a good game according to Gamefaqs' userbase.
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shane15 posted...
cyko posted...
I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.


The fact that Persona is not liked much on this site is a crime in itself.They're turn based old skool style RPGs with brilliant casts of characters and decent stories.O wait i forgot it's not made and/or on a Nintendo system and it's not a Square game.It's failed on all the key features that makes a good game according to Gamefaqs' userbase.


Seriously, Persona is a series that GameFAQs SHOULD love, but the joke that the site stopped playing games around 2006 is proving accurate.
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shane15 posted...
cyko posted...
I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.


The fact that Persona is not liked much on this site is a crime in itself.They're turn based old skool style RPGs with brilliant casts of characters and decent stories.O wait i forgot it's not made and/or on a Nintendo system and it's not a Square game.It's failed on all the key features that makes a good game according to Gamefaqs' userbase.


I sense salt here...

In any case, don't the votals seem really low compared to previous contests?
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_Dog posted...
shane15 posted...
cyko posted...
I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.


The fact that Persona is not liked much on this site is a crime in itself.They're turn based old skool style RPGs with brilliant casts of characters and decent stories.O wait i forgot it's not made and/or on a Nintendo system and it's not a Square game.It's failed on all the key features that makes a good game according to Gamefaqs' userbase.


I sense salt here...

In any case, don't the votals seem really low compared to previous contests?


No one visits the home page anymore. You can see that in the low votals for the 2013 Character contest, as well.
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the guy in the DQ pick looks like Chrono. therefore votes



Also, since people are so worried this all means old > new, do we think Skyrim is still reaching the division finals?
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According to the gamefaqscontests site (about P3/DQ) :
2015-11-05 10:38:26 18632
2015-11-05 10:36:15 18630

1 vote per minute, that's kinda sad
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You know what would be great if Batman was stronger than Half-Life
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haloiscoolisbak posted...
the guy in the DQ pick looks like Chrono. therefore votes



Also, since people are so worried this all means old > new, do we think Skyrim is still reaching the division finals?


Well if this is the era of the old classics, Goldeneye has this on lock. But I expect Skyrim to be an exception to the old > new trend.
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Qwaar posted...
Someone rally for Persona!


problem is most Persona fans are also fans of DQ8. To rally Persona 3 needed to be against something that wasn't a classic PS2 RPG as well

shane15 posted...
I don't get how Persona 4 exploded on the gaming scene yet Persona 3 was just left as some niche game.I'm going with the yellow colour scheme standing out.


probably because Persona 4 did everything way better. Persona 4 is my favorite 3D game but Persona 3 is like an 8.5 for me.
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Looking at some of the 24-hour (non-Draven) matches from CBIX, we seemed to usually be at around 60% of the votals at 11:30 am Eastern. So we should be on pace for somewhere around 36K for today's matches, which is really not bad at all.
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Damn, are votals that frontloaded nowadays? I would think we would have at least to 11:30 before we got to the halfway point.

Sorry I must have miss-typed that was suppose to be 37-39k.
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Points 0/0
Wow.

Yeah I'm legit surprised Persona lost this one. I had DQ8 originally and changed. I guess Persona's fanbase is just a super vocal minority, I dunno.
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swirIdude posted...
haloiscoolisbak posted...
the guy in the DQ pick looks like Chrono. therefore votes



Also, since people are so worried this all means old > new, do we think Skyrim is still reaching the division finals?


Well if this is the era of the old classics, Goldeneye has this on lock. But I expect Skyrim to be an exception to the old > new trend.


I agree with this. Elder Scrolls, MGS, Resident Evil and Fallout seem to be the strongest non-Square/ Nintendo series on the site over the past few years. Well, those and Shadow of the Colossus.
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_Dog posted...
shane15 posted...
cyko posted...
I am really thinking the Persona series just isn't that big of a deal here. It seems to have a small, vocal fanbase that will stick with it over anything. It really is too bad that Persona 4 got wasted against a Zelda game in Round 2. It could have caused some real debates.


The fact that Persona is not liked much on this site is a crime in itself.They're turn based old skool style RPGs with brilliant casts of characters and decent stories.O wait i forgot it's not made and/or on a Nintendo system and it's not a Square game.It's failed on all the key features that makes a good game according to Gamefaqs' userbase.


I sense salt here...


I am slightly annoyed don't get my wrong but i'll be really salty if Chrono Trigger gets past FFX AND Melee.
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I do feel better about my Sonic 2 > Portal 2 pick, hopefully Portal flops hard tomorrow too.
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BGE3: Today's Matches CT>R&C, P3>DQ8, Batman>MMX, FFX>HL
Points 0/0
Dragon Quest VIII was a considerably higher profile game than Persona 3 and based on that I'd say the latter is lucky it's even this close. And while I've played Persona 3 but not Dragon Quest VIII, the latter looks massively more visually impressive. I doubt the randomly generated and repetitive aspect of Tartarus appealed to people here either. Sure, Persona 3's battle system is fine and its story and characters are good but that's a very reductive way of looking at RPGs that I don't think the site necessarily shares. And while I liked the game a lot and all, it's also got a vastly stronger weeaboo vibe than the JRPGs gamefaqs generally likes.

Persona 3 was successful but pretty niche; and regardless of its good qualities, a lot more people have played and love Persona 4. We'll see how the latter does. I'm not sure why it would reflect badly on gamefaqs that they defied our expectations and refused to blindly franchise vote. I mean, that seems like most of the reason people hiveminded to picking Persona 3 to win here, right? "looks sort of close based on past results but Persona's gotten so much bigger over the years!"
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UltimaterializerX posted...
Wow.

Yeah I'm legit surprised Persona lost this one. I had DQ8 originally and changed. I guess Persona's fanbase is just a super vocal minority, I dunno.


http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV_vs_Persona_4_vs_Street_Fighter_IV_vs_Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl_2009

I know Board 8 loves Persona 4 and all, but let's be honest about its contest strength. It has none.

Straight outta your mouth. Granted Persona 3 and 4 are different games, but the point stands.

shane15 posted...
I am slightly annoyed don't get my wrong but i'll be really salty if Chrono Trigger gets past FFX AND Melee.


Oh believe me, the time will come when Pokemon RBY gets to the finals or something. Stupid nostalgia goggles... really damages a proper perception.
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Honestly this wasn't about Persona 3's strength it was about DQ8's weakness
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shane15 posted...

I am slightly annoyed don't get my wrong but i'll be really salty if Chrono Trigger gets past FFX AND Melee.


This would be a great result!
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I think it's tough to say anything about new vs. old just yet. Arkham City is not even a notable new game, it's one of those total game of the month kind of things. No lasting impact at all. Putting it up against a classic like MMX was a recipe for failure. Gotta see how other games hold up before saying anything definitive there.

I made my bracket based around old games doing better than newer ones, though. These popular new games just aren't typically in GameFAQs's wheelhouse, and with the vote totals being low and the average voter being in their mid-20s, I figured these older games like CT and MMX and Mario would thrive.

One of the upsets I thought a lot about but didn't take as MP > Skyrim. Don't think today says anything about that, but it'd be something if it happened!
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11/5/2015 8:28:36 AM#342
X-Stats predicted a 54.27% win for DQ8 here

just sayin'
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11/5/2015 8:29:56 AM#343
Also, don't be surprised if P4 is a good bit stronger now but P3 is still weak.

I thought P3 would gain some residual benefit from P4's popularity boost, but I guess not. I wouldn't take this match as a referendum on P4's strength.
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charmander6000 posted...
I do feel better about my Sonic 2 > Portal 2 pick, hopefully Portal flops hard tomorrow too.


*high fives* Someone else believes
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LeonhartFour posted...
Also, don't be surprised if P4 is a good bit stronger now but P3 is still weak.

I thought P3 would gain some residual benefit from P4's popularity boost, but I guess not. I wouldn't take this match as a referendum on P4's strength.


Obviously P4 is one of the strongest games. We just need to see how high Chie is is our 2013 X-stats.
Yep. I would expect P4 to be more popular than P3 by a good amount. That was the breakout Persona game, and the one everyone loves. P3 is for a more hardcore, niche subsection of those fans. Like, Persona 4 lead to a dancing game, a fighting game, and maybe the only popular Vita game. Think it's on a different level, but it runs into Zelda so it's pretty set.
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I think we might have overestimated FFIX's strength a little, making Persona 3 look better in comparison.

We assumed that it was getting leeched in 2009 and SFF'd by FFX in 2010, but FFIX has an old school fanbase that doesn't get SFFd by New Square as much, and so the match against FFX might have been a bit more straightforward than we gave it credit for. Would also explain KOTOR holding up so well against it.
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shane15 posted...
I am slightly annoyed don't get my wrong but i'll be really salty if Chrono Trigger gets past FFX AND Melee.


Nothing to be mad about if this happens.

The only thing that would truly suck is if it made this great run, then just rolled over and died in the final or something. At least break 45% on Ocarina, if not beat it.
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then Doom, 3rd GOAT game, secret final boss

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