OrangeCrush980 posted...
PS4 might objectively be the most overrated console ever. What do people see in that thing?


PS4 really surprises me in that it always performs better in the polls relative to the system's current library. Wii U is on the opposite end of the PS4, in which it actually underperforms in the polls despite having the best overall library out of the 3 consoles right now.
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
PS4 might objectively be the most overrated console ever. What do people see in that thing?


It's the console with Bloodborne on it. Only reason I own one.
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OrangeCrush980 posted...
PS4 might objectively be the most overrated console ever. What do people see in that thing?


How is it overrtated? easy to develop for, not expensive, DS4 is awesome (except for battery) and is the most powerful of the current gen. It doesn't have a robust library yet, but that's just a matter of time. Tons of JRPGs have been announced (SO5, Tales of Berseria etc) and of course the inevitable Uncharted 4 , TLoU2 and other Sony first party games.
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6/9/2015 9:21:07 PM#55
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Today's poll is getting excellent vote totals.

The Wii is actually losing to the Xbox 360 in this poll, if you look at the options which have the 360 ranked higher than the Wii. I thought Microsoft's downfall as a result of the Xbox One disaster would also hurt people's opinion of Microsoft as a whole, which would be reflected on their opinion of the 360 as well.
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People not liking the XBox One doesn't really have anything to do with how well people liked the 360.

It's like being surprised the PS3 did so poorly here when it first came out after how popular the PS2 was.
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The Xbox One disaster could have potentially hurt people's opinions of the 360 by hurting their overall opinion of Microsoft as a whole.
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But this isn't asking about your opinion of Microsoft as a whole. This has nothing to do with that.
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I know what the poll question is asking here. I am trying to say this could have affected some people's opinion of the 360. Also, the 360 had almost a non-existent 2012 and 2013 in terms of first-party games and that could have also affected some people's opinion of the 360. It's like Microsoft and their partner studios just gave up after 2011 to prepare for the upcoming Xbox One.
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If anything, the XBone being bad would only make people like the 360 more because it looks even better by comparison.

But regardless, this is like saying the Wii U being a flop would make people like the SNES or N64 less. Doesn't work that way.
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There was a similar poll back in 2012, which can be found right here:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4634-

In that poll, 73.49% of the site thought the 360 was better than the Wii. But in today's poll, only 52.89% of the site thinks the 360 is better than the Wii. There needs to be something that can explain why the Wii managed to close the gap on the 360 by nearly 21% since that poll in 2012.

That's why I proposed the Xbox One disaster as a reason that would hurt people's opinion of the 360 by hurting their overall opinion of Microsoft.
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6/9/2015 9:47:40 PM#63
I don't think the Xbox One is particularly hated to begin with. Users just aren't really sold on what it has to offer right now.
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2537 votes at the end of the first hour, which is good for about 24500 to 28000 votes today. That would be pretty good compared to what we're averaging right now.

Here is a table comparing the 2012 and 2015 polls:

http://i.imgur.com/oUqptDs.png

The 2015 results were taken from the 1:00 AM update. As you can see, both the PS3 and the Wii have improved themselves relative to the 360 in the 3 years between the 2012 and 2015 polls. The Wii actually managed to improve itself against the PS3 by closing the gap by nearly 6% in the last 3 years. But the biggest change was the Wii closing the gap on the 360 by nearly 21%.

The Wii has not done anything lately to get people to have a higher opinion of the system, so there has to be something else affecting the gap between the Wii and the 360. I proposed the Xbox One disaster as a reason why the 360 has lost a lot of ground to the Wii, but also losing ground to the PS3 as well. The current generation could also be affecting people's opinions of the previous generation, and since the PS4 is currently leading this generation, that could be getting reflected in the voting results today.
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Yesterday's poll fell slightly short of 26000 votes. Still very good compared to our average vote totals right now.

Here is the percentage of the site that voted a specific console over another one:

360 over Wii - 56.88%
PS3 over 360 - 67.56%
PS3 over Wii - 76.93%

I did not track poll updates for yesterday's poll, but I was able to GameFAQs's vote total data for the poll to look at the trends here.

PS3 had a fairly average board vote and Power Hour. It performed best overnight. With the morning vote and day vote, the 360 started cutting into PS3's percentage gap and managed to cut about 1% off the maximum percentage the PS3 had over the 360.

The 360 had a bad board vote and Power Hour, which is part of the reason why it struggled against the Wii early on. The 360's night vote was below average, but just barely better than the Wii's night vote. The 360 performed best during the morning vote and day vote, where it would go on to increase its percentage gap over the Wii by over 2% during both time periods combined.

Wii was all board vote and Power Hour. After the Power Hour came to an end, there was not a single time period where the Wii made an attempt to close the gap between itself and the PS3/360. PS3's gap over the Wii increased for the entire poll and the 360 did the same thing against the Wii. Wii had the weakest day vote in this poll, even worse than that of the PS3.
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I think the Xbox One hurt Microsoft as a whole, including the 360. They were taking blow after blow in the media about privacy concerns with the NSA, then they were being so awful with their video game PR during that same time that it made Sony look lucky with their PS3-hype. These polls look condemning:

2/19/12: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4634-how-would-you-rate-the-three-major-consoles-right-now-from-best-to-worst
6/10/15: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5901-now-that-the-last-generation-of-game-consoles-is-drawing-to-a-close-how-would

Those are big losses for the 360 two years after the original announcement; 360-favorites lost ~6.5%, PS3-favorites cost 360-#2s ~16%, and Wii-favorites saw 360-#2s lose ~6%. It takes more than Xenoblade and The Last of Us to allow that.



8/8/13: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5204-character-battle-ix-division-7-round-1-chief-vs-yuna-vs-claire

Master Chief could have beaten Yuna in 2013 based off of that. He lost by less than 6%, and their match was three months after the console's announcement. I know the numbers can't clearly translate like that and the Microsoft-hate has settled some, but there was a broad shift in Microsoft's perception that year that we can stilll see here today.




EDIT: just noticed Luster was linking to the same console poll I found...I've been three-day-ninja'd.
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Holy s***, today's poll has some extremely horrible vote totals. With 1471 votes at the end of the first hour, this poll is on track to finish between 14000 and 16000 votes. This poll is performing even worse than this recent NX poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5893-
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I will never understand how our votals died like this. Hard to believe we once averaged like 100k. Who to blame? Google? Ipads/Phones? SBAllen? someone must be held accountable.
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abdou posted...
I will never understand how our votals died like this. Hard to believe we once averaged like 100k. Who to blame? Google? Ipads/Phones? SBAllen? someone must be held accountable.


Gaming moved past needing web sites like ours. Everyone goes to youtube for guides now.
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So yesterday's poll got about 14500 votes, one of the worst vote totals for a non-GotY poll and about 1000 votes behind the previous NX related poll I linked to yesterday. Today's poll is doing better in terms of vote totals (1607 after 1 hour), so it'll finish between 15000 and 18000, but I wasn't expecting good vote totals out of this poll as a lot of people only watch the first-party press conferences.
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This probably doesn't mean much on its own, but it's part of a trend I've been noticing...

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/220-rpgs-everything-else/71820932

There was some guy that was collecting Top 10 RPG lists from across the Internet and some from real life. He eventually posted a top ~90 (all the games that got at least 50 votes). Here's the top 10:

1. 879 - Chrono Trigger
2. 776 - Final Fantasy VI

3. 489 - Persona 4
4. 480 - Final Fantasy Tactics
5. 442 - Suikoden 2
6. 435 - Final Fantasy VII
7. 345 - Final Fantasy X
8. 325 - Baldur's Gate 2
9. 312 - Planescape: Torment
10. 310 - Mass Effect 2

The gap between 2 and 3 is pretty huge, and #1 Chrono Trigger comes close-ish to doubling #3 Persona 4. Does this alone mean something for GameFAQs contests? Maybe not, but I keep seeing praise and unconditional love for those 2 games all over the place. Combine that with other games slipping and it makes me wonder what the JRPG SNES Square duo will do in the next contest. I don't think they beat Ocarina, but anything else is fair game.

Persona 4 being #3 is also notable. Consider it got top 20 in The List (TM) last year, and it's also top 20 on Favslist despite that site being dudebro infested:

http://www.favslist.com/lists/All-Time-Favorite-Games/4
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I'm surprised at the large difference in results between these 2 polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5876-
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5905-

In the first poll, Bethesda comes close to doubling Square Enix. In today's poll, Bethesda is losing to Square Enix.

Unlike in the first poll, the first-party options and PC Gaming Show are not listed in today's poll, but they wouldn't have affected the results because there is no SFF or LFF to deal with.
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-LusterSoldier- posted...
I'm surprised at the large difference in results between these 2 polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5876-
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5905-

In the first poll, Bethesda comes close to doubling Square Enix. In today's poll, Bethesda is losing to Square Enix.

Unlike in the first poll, the first-party options and PC Gaming Show are not listed in today's poll, but they wouldn't have affected the results because there is no SFF or LFF to deal with.


well two things have happened since the first poll. First, Bethesda announced Fallout 4 in an official trailer, which was the #1 thing most people were hoping/expecting to see at Bethesda's conference. There is now less buildup/excitement because of that. Second, Square Enix announced that there will be a total of SIX unannounced games that will be revealed during their conference, and a lot of people are getting excited, especially since SE used Chrono Trigger music in their teaser video which made some people hope for a sequel, and of course there is the usual hope for Kingdom hearts 3 info and FFVII remake.
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Incoming Ryu boost.


trust me, no one cares about this smash.
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Wow, Sony is actually holding up very well during the board vote, which is traditionally the best time period for Nintendo. I also noticed that Nintendo is already performing worse in today's poll compared to this poll from last month:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5876-

In that poll, Nintendo more than doubled Sony. In today's poll, Nintendo is ultimately going to finish with less than 55% on Sony and could possibly lose to Sony depending on how the night vote goes. Unlike with Bethesda looking much weaker in yesterday's poll (compared to a poll from last month), Nintendo's performance today could be blamed on Nintendo underperforming in polls with fewer options. Nintendo seems to have an easier time dominating polls as you include more and more options in a poll.
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You would expect them to be higher riding on the hype of yesterday's stream.
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If the previous E3s were any indication, there will be 2 polls today and 2 polls tomorrow. What will happen is that Allen will close this poll just shortly after the Microsoft press conference ends and put up a poll related to the Microsoft press conference. Shortly after the Sony press conference ends, another poll will go up. And after the Nintendo Digital Event ends, there will be another poll going up.

The fact that this current poll will only last for about 14 hours will severely limit Sony's ability to successfully pull off a comeback, as Sony has less time to make a comeback. Also, it's good for Nintendo since Nintendo's day vote hasn't been what it used to be in the past with the ASV being almost non-existent.
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Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cn9Glz8TOfqm5c3PTqFl8rXibUmpA-ukvuyNyy4W2rk/pub?gid=468885330

Bethesda had a really terrible board vote and Power Hour. It did slightly better during the night vote and early morning vote, but even that was still terrible. Bethesda performed much better during the late morning vote, but it was the day vote where it was at its strongest. It dropped off slightly during the SNV, although that's because most of the press conference happened during the SNV. Bethesda's worst hour actually happened during the press conference itself.

Electronic Arts had a really awful board vote. Outside of the board vote, it was fairly consistent for the rest of the poll.

PC Gaming Show performed worst during the board vote, Power Hour, and day vote. It performed best during the night vote, early morning vote, and SNV.

Square Enix had a very powerful board vote and Power Hour, which isn't something we typically see from Square Enix. It dropped off hard during the night vote and early morning vote, but even that time period was still above average. Square Enix performed worst during the late morning vote, day vote, and SNV. At one point, Square Enix reached a maximum lead of 571 votes over Bethesda at 10:15 AM. After that point in time, Bethesda would use its powerful day vote to try and cut into Square Enix's lead. The lead got cut all the way back to 439 votes at 6:55 PM. But as we got closer and closer to the start of the Bethesda press conference, Bethesda would actually drop off a bit in the trends and Square Enix would end up extending that lead again. And that was what happened, as Square Enix had 2 very powerful hours during the Bethesda press conference. Square Enix pushed that lead back up to 570 at 11:20 PM (around the time the press conference ended) before Bethesda would use the final 40 minutes of the poll to cut into the lead again and finish the poll with a 517 vote lead for Square Enix.

Ubisoft had a bad board vote, Power Hour, day vote, and SNV. It performed best during the late morning vote and had an average night vote and early morning vote.
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The first poll of today ended at 2:20 PM EST, since a new poll went up at the same time. It took Allen longer than usual to put up a poll related to the Microsoft press conference. Although this does mean that the previous poll got to see a decent sized voting period after the Microsoft press conference ended. I'll post trend charts for both of today's polls after the Microsoft press conference poll comes to an end.
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New poll was just put up at 10:33 PM EST, right when Sony's press conference ended. Also, FFVII remake was announced, so we could possibly see a contest strength boost for Cloud.

Anyways, I'll post trend charts for both of today's polls eventually.
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Finally, FFVII's downward spiral will come to a halt.
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UltimaterializerX posted...
abdou posted...
I will never understand how our votals died like this. Hard to believe we once averaged like 100k. Who to blame? Google? Ipads/Phones? SBAllen? someone must be held accountable.


Gaming moved past needing web sites like ours. Everyone goes to youtube for guides now.


That and the entire dynamic of actual games have changed. Games are for more linear and you can't really miss out on stuff now. They're also not as difficult and tend to be filled with checkpoints and auto saves.
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I just completed trend charts for the first poll that we had yesterday. Since it's getting pretty late and I need to get some sleep so I don't miss the Nintendo Digital Event, I will only post poll updates and trend charts for the night poll. The day poll will be posted at a later time, maybe in the morning if I have the time to do that before Nintendo's Digital Event starts.

Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's night poll:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-aj9pVH-XjN8H4uRaUkcLqJgxeOYqI-81b_A_7EZpl0/pub?gid=107625574

Microsoft had a terrible board vote and Power Hour. It performed better during the night vote, but that time period was very average overall. It performed best during the morning vote as people were waiting on Microsoft's press conference to begin. When the press conference started, Microsoft dropped off. Once the press conference came to an end, Microsoft started performing better based on the 15 minutes of trends that we had in this poll after the press conference was over.

Nintendo had a strong board vote and Power Hour. Unlike in many other polls related to Nintendo, it still had an above average board vote. Nintendo performed worst during the morning vote, although that could be blamed on Microsoft having a good morning vote here. Nintendo started performing better during the press conference and then dropped off after it ended.

Based on how well Sony performed against Nintendo during the board vote and Power Hour, I thought there was a chance Sony could pull off a comeback here, but it never happened. Nintendo was never in any danger here. Nintendo won every single hour of this poll with the exception of the final hour in this poll. However, the final hour of this poll was only a 20 minute time period. So for all practical purposes, I could say that Nintendo won every single hour in this poll.

Sony performed worst during the board vote and Power Hour, but even that was just slightly below average. Sony's night vote was roughly the same as its Power Hour. It performed best during the morning vote. Sony's trends did not change when the press conference started, although it did perform much better after it came to an end. But there were only 15 minutes of trends after the press conference was over with, so I can't look too much into making projections on whether Sony would have maintained this trend if the poll ran for a full 24 hours. What is certain here is that Sony would have dropped off when its press conference started and then bounced back again after it came to an end.

This poll ended up finishing with just slightly over 13000 votes in a 14 hour, 20 minute poll. Had this ran for a full 24 hours, this poll would be projected to finish with 20000 votes.
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My brother just texted me about the FF7 remake. After the initial euphoria, my thoughts of course went to these contests - I'm actually much less into contests now, but this intrigues me.

I wonder if FF7's continual demise in relevance and contest strength will now be halted.

Because while hatred for the game was definitely a factor, it had that hatebase from the start. The real problem was that newer gamers simply hadn't played the game. Even FF6 has been available on handhelds and phones.

So what do people think about this?
Whoa, cn sighting.
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creativename posted...
Because while hatred for the game was definitely a factor, it had that hatebase from the start. The real problem was that newer gamers simply hadn't played the game. Even FF6 has been available on handhelds and phones.


Based on several other FFVII related polls that I have tracked in the past, it seems as though FFVII's very weak Power Hour is caused by the early voters having not played the game. FFVII would have a low playrate at the start of the poll and continuously rise throughout the night vote and morning vote.

FFVII will eventually be released on phones in the near future and also be ported to the PS4 (this is not the remake), which should help solve the issue of newer gamers having not played the game. The remake, however, will be an actual HD redesign. I hope this remake allows Cloud and Sephiroth to regain their former glory as the most feared characters in the contests.

There was an FFX remake last year and I'm excited to see what that remake does for FFX in this year's upcoming BGE contest.
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creativename posted...
Because while hatred for the game was definitely a factor, it had that hatebase from the start. The real problem was that newer gamers simply hadn't played the game. Even FF6 has been available on handhelds and phones.


Based on several other FFVII related polls that I have tracked in the past, it seems as though FFVII's very weak Power Hour is caused by the early voters having not played the game. FFVII would have a low playrate at the start of the poll and continuously rise throughout the night vote and morning vote.

FFVII will eventually be released on phones in the near future and also be ported to the PS4 (this is not the remake), which should help solve the issue of newer gamers having not played the game. The remake, however, will be an actual HD redesign. I hope this remake allows Cloud and Sephiroth to regain their former glory as the most feared characters in the contests.

There was an FFX remake last year and I'm excited to see what that remake does for FFX in this year's upcoming BGE contest.


FFX HD is more of a remaster than a remake. I don't think it will have the same effect on FFX's strength that FFVII:Remake will on FFVII
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Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's day poll:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1USms9kZWiNxBZWYD1v2X0qgR93IcoT99MV8nTaRMXEU/pub?gid=1

The second poll from yesterday (the day poll) started at 2:20 PM and ended at 10:33 PM. It ran for a total of 8 hours, 13 minutes. Based on the vote totals in this poll, I estimate it would have gotten about 18000 votes in a full 24 hour poll.

Because of the unconventional starting time on this poll, trend charts were handled different than usual. There is no DSV, as there's no point to calculating DSV trends since the poll started 10 minutes before the traditional ASV starting time. The board vote was calculated as usual - the first 5 minutes of the poll before the freeze kicks in. The Power Hour runs from 2:20 PM to 3:20 PM, with the ASV starting at 3:20 PM instead of the normal 2:30 PM. The SNV starts at 10:00 PM and continues until the poll ends at 10:33 PM.

"A - Amazing" had a good board vote and Power Hour. It dropped off after the early voting slowed down. Outside of the Power Hour, it also performed pretty well during Sony's press conference.

"B - Good job" had trends that were fairly similar to "A - Amazing", with a good board vote and Power Hour. It performed worst during Ubisoft's press conference and Sony's press conference.

"C - Okay" had a weak board vote and Power Hour. It actually dropped off even more during the next 2 hours after the Power Hour ended. It performed best near the middle of the poll, before Sony's press conference started. It performed worst during Sony's press conference.

"D - Bad" had a weak board vote and Power Hour as well. Outside of the Power Hour, this option was all over the place, with no real consistency to its trends. It did perform slightly better during the ASV when compared to the Power Hour, though.

"F - Terrible" performed worst during the board vote and Power Hour. It had a fairly average ASV and performed best during Sony's press conference.
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I hope FF 7 remake gives a boost to FF VII characters in the contests.
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FFVII's problems nowadays have very little to do with playrate.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Have_You_Played

Its best recorded playrate was 81.35% back in 2003.
It did worse subsequently, reaching a low point of 70.83% in 2009. Even then it was in comparatively good shape contest-wise.

But FFVII's playrate nowadays would be higher. Even FFVIII had a playrate of 69.70% in September of last year. Common sense says FFVII would therefore have a playrate at least in the mid-70s - not much lower than at the game's peak. (I blame the collapsing votals for this.) Yet it still struggles in contests.

Furthermore, while many newer gamers haven't played FFVII, those people for the most just don't come to this site (or at least, they don't vote in polls). The age polls indicate this site's demographics have been fairly stagnant since 2009.
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Average_Age
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Playrate doesn't really mean anything if it's not fresh in your minds.

A lot of it probably comes from people who haven't touched the game in 15 years.
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