#101 | charmander6000 | Posted 11/10/2014 9:22:39 AM | message detail
Unsurprisingly Europe visits more countries than US/Canada. Also Canada's 1 country is most likely the US while states bordering Canada tend to also answer 1 country.
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#102 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/10/2014 9:03:00 PM | message detail
Europeans also have very little restrictions on being able to travel to other countries within Europe, so it's a lot easier for them to visit a lot of countries. Europeans also have the benefit of much cheaper plane tickets (relative to the US). Plane tickets in the US are very expensive, even when traveling to another place within the US.

Also, Assassin's Creed series poll today. I'm not tracking that poll, though.

I am still working on completing the poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll, so I can post them in this topic.
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#103 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/11/2014 5:20:32 PM | message detail
Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdEszY3duVlBZYVJQeENZSXVoS0NyYkE&gid=2

I also tracked poll updates for the 2012 poll and finally got around to uploading the poll updates from the 2012 poll. I will be mostly talking about the trends from yesterday's poll.

"None" had a very strong board vote and a pretty good Power Hour overall. It dropped off during the night vote and performed worst during the hours of 3:00-8:00 AM. It started performing better during the morning vote, but only slightly better than its night vote. "None" reached its lowest percentage of 26.31% at 12:40 PM and gained a total of 0.88% for the remainder of the poll.

"None" would have to wait until the ASV kicked in to start performing much better in this poll. "None" had a pretty good ASV overall, but it still couldn't match up to its Power Hour numbers. It dropped off a little bit during the SNV, but that was entirely due to a terrible 10:00-11:00 PM hour. In yesterday's poll, "None" had a weaker ASV compared to the 2012 poll. Part of that could be from "None" performing about 2% worse in this poll compared to the 2012 poll, but also the ASV being even weaker today than it was back in 2012.

From 4:00-8:00 AM, "None" lost a total of 4 straight hours to "Two or three", along with losing the 10:00-11:00 PM hour to "Two or three" as well. "None" built up a maximum lead of 415 over "Two or three" during the night vote, but "Two to three" was only able to cut a total of 51 votes off that lead. "None" lost its first update to "Two to three" at 1:10 AM. The largest cut was 17 votes (at 7:35 AM) and "None" lost a total of 87 updates (out of 288 5-minute updates) to "Two to three".

"Only one" had a weaker board vote and Power Hour in comparison to "None". It still shared the same awful night vote that "None" also had and performed worst from 3:00-7:00 AM. It started performing better during the morning vote, although it did have a better morning vote in comparison to "None". The ASV was only slightly better than its morning vote, while it performed best during the SNV.

"Two or three" had a god awful board vote, but it recovered very nicely to finish with a very average Power Hour overall. It dropped off very slightly during the night vote, but it did gain strength near the end of the night vote. It performed best during the morning vote and dropped off during the ASV. However, it did perform better during the SNV when compared to the ASV.

"Four to six" had a god awful board vote and Power Hour. It performed best during the night vote and morning vote, while dropping off during the ASV and SNV. "Seven to ten" had very similar trends to "Four to six" - weak at the start of the poll, very strong at night and the morning vote, and dropping off again during the ASV and SNV.

"More than ten" also had a god awful board vote and Power Hour. It performed best during the night vote and early morning vote, dropping off during the late morning vote and remaining pretty consistent for the rest of the poll.
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#104 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/12/2014 10:22:21 PM | message detail
When I first saw today's poll, I quickly assumed this poll was a prime candidate to finish with under 20000 votes. However, the vote totals appear to be doing better than I originally thought, with 2281 votes at the end of the first hour. This will put today's poll on track for 22000 to 24000 votes.

Perhaps the poll being on the main boards page is actually boosting vote totals slightly and that could be the reason why this poll isn't sucking as badly in the vote total department. Before today's poll, we actually had 7 straight days of at least 27000 votes or more, when the average vote totals were currently around 25000 votes prior to the poll being added to the main boards page. I still need to see several more weeks of polls before I can properly assess the impact of the poll now being on the main boards page.
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#105 | superange128 | Posted 11/12/2014 10:23:22 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
When I first saw today's poll, I quickly assumed this poll was a prime candidate to finish with under 20000 votes. However, the vote totals appear to be doing better than I originally thought, with 2281 votes at the end of the first hour. This will put today's poll on track for 22000 to 24000 votes.

Perhaps the poll being on the main boards page is actually boosting vote totals slightly and that could be the reason why this poll isn't sucking as badly in the vote total department. Before today's poll, we actually had 7 straight days of at least 27000 votes or more, when the average vote totals were currently around 25000 votes prior to the poll being added to the main boards page. I still need to see several more weeks of polls before I can properly assess the impact of the poll now being on the main boards page.


It's possible there are still a lot of users who don't know about it
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#106 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/14/2014 10:58:58 PM | message detail
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#107 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/15/2014 9:01:17 PM | message detail
Half-Life 2 ownership poll today.
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#108 | tennisboy213 | Posted 11/16/2014 1:21:13 AM | message detail
I only vote in the POTD when it's mentioned here.
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#109 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/16/2014 5:46:38 AM | message detail
I only care about the PotD when Luster is tracking trends.
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#110 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 11/16/2014 5:56:27 AM | message detail
I liked yesterday's poll where 57% of GameFAQs agreed that the PS4 has no games. Plus probably the 13% that gave it a lower score.
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#111 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/17/2014 9:39:27 PM | message detail
Bump
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#112 | spooky96 | Posted 11/18/2014 12:13:27 PM | message detail
Oh wow I just realized this, how long has this been implemented?

http://gyazo.com/484171e7fbcb02177c52aa1fc0e88af8
#113 | LeonhartFour | Posted 11/18/2014 1:37:42 PM | message detail
#114 | The Mana Sword | Posted 11/18/2014 1:41:36 PM | message detail
I feel like it should really be on more than just the main board landing page.
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#115 | spooky96 | Posted 11/18/2014 6:37:03 PM | message detail
I wonder if that helped much, because the vote totals are still pretty bad.
#116 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/18/2014 9:22:12 PM | message detail
Still a little too early to tell if this change even had a minor impact. From what I can see, it's extremely minor (less than a 5% boost in vote totals).

Unlike the poll on the homepage, the poll on the main boards page is located below the board information area. This means the poll is less visible on the main boards page compared to the homepage.

And we've already seen what happened during the early part of the Spring 2004 contest when the contest match was located below a regular PotD (those were ad-sponsored polls). Some of the regular PotDs that were located above the contest match got almost as many votes as the actual contest match for that day.
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#117 | swirIdude | Posted 11/19/2014 8:33:43 AM | message detail
The only way SBAllen can get votals up is to put the poll in the top corner of every site page. That way, no matter who visits from what source, they will see the poll.
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#118 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 11/19/2014 12:54:19 PM | message detail
lmao gamefaqs is bad at sales confirmed
#119 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2014 9:12:10 PM | message detail
What a shame, even with "Smash Bros." being listed in the Wii U option for yesterday's poll, it still couldn't defeat the PS4. NintendoFAQs has failed for the second straight poll in a row. Wii U is probably dead on GameFAQs if Smash Bros. can't propel itself over a PS4 that has very few notable games so far.
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#120 | pjbasis | Posted 11/19/2014 9:16:01 PM | message detail
The poll isn't asking what you like more, just who you think will win.

At least we weren't all deluded enough to think Nintendo's going to make a comeback over night.
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#121 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2014 9:22:37 PM | message detail
In yesterday's poll, the Wii U option had the early lead and managed to hold the lead over the PS4 until being overtaken at 3:47 AM. I thought maybe the Wii U option might have a chance at a comeback since it was performing very well in the US and Canada early in the poll. But when the morning vote kicked in, the PS4 was gaining a lot of percentage in the US and Canada, ending any hope of a comeback during the ASV.
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#122 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 11/19/2014 9:49:25 PM | message detail
I know GameFAQs loves Smash Bros, but at the end of the day its just one game and we already got the 3DS version which is good enough for casual fans of the series.
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#123 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/19/2014 10:02:38 PM | message detail
Seems like we're going to have to wait until after Christmas for our next batch of "Got Console?" polls to see what kind of impact Smash Bros. has on the Wii U's ownership.
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#124 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/20/2014 1:57:52 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
What a shame, even with "Smash Bros." being listed in the Wii U option for yesterday's poll, it still couldn't defeat the PS4. NintendoFAQs has failed for the second straight poll in a row. Wii U is probably dead on GameFAQs if Smash Bros. can't propel itself over a PS4 that has very few notable games so far.


I'm sorry, Luster. I can tell you're really concerned about this.
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#125 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 11/20/2014 10:05:11 AM | message detail
the fact that the PS4 isn't near 100% tells you how much loyalty there is here lol
#126 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2014 8:56:00 PM | message detail
Even if you removed the Wii U option from yesterday's poll, there's no way the PS4 gets 100% because the other 3 options besides the Wii U and PS4 combined for a total of 24.62%.

I have no idea what kind of poll we'll be getting in about 4 minutes from now, considering that both ORAS and Smash Bros. Wii U come on the same day. We might see a "Got Game?" poll with both games combined into one poll, but it would be somewhat more difficult to come up with a good set of options for that poll.
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#127 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2014 9:01:15 PM | message detail
And we ended up getting a poll for just Smash Bros. Wii U. I don't think we'll get a poll for ORAS, considering tomorrow marks 1 year since the release of the Xbox One, so tomorrow's poll should be asking you how you would rate the first year of the Xbox One.
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#128 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/20/2014 10:02:55 PM | message detail
Wow, this Smash Bros. Wii U poll is getting awful vote totals. 1946 votes at the end of the first hour in this poll. This poll could potentially finish under 20000 votes, but I don't think that will happen. I think today's poll is getting off to a slow start in vote totals and I expect the vote totals to pick up later as more people get their copy of the game.

This poll should finish somewhere between 19000 and 24000 votes.
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#129 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2014 8:14:39 PM | message detail
So I finally got back onto the internet after my first day of a long 2 day road trip down to Florida for vacation. With about 50 minutes left in this poll, I see that it is barely above 20000 votes. But still, this poll is doing pretty bad in terms of vote totals. The Smash Bros. 3DS poll got better vote totals (around 24000 votes).

My theory of this poll getting off to a slow start in vote totals appears to be incorrect.
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#130 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/21/2014 10:09:52 PM | message detail
Today's poll is even worse than yesterday's poll in terms of vote totals. 1795 votes at the end of the first hour, which puts it on track for 17000 to 20000 votes. Getting over 20000 votes is extremely unlikely, but this poll will be our worst non-GotY poll for vote totals during the last 10 years.
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#131 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/23/2014 10:29:32 PM | message detail
Bump
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#132 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 11/23/2014 10:30:48 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
For just randomly not having me on the signoff show last season and never explaining why? Most people in the topic were like wtf too.

Like it's his show and his choice, whatever, but grow a pair and say why instead of being a coward.


It's been a year, dude.


I hold a long grudge, what can I say.
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#133 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/25/2014 9:59:53 PM | message detail
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#134 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/26/2014 8:01:24 PM | message detail | (edited)
Polls for the next several days:

11/27/2014 - Do you plan on doing any shopping on Black Friday this year?
11/28/2014 - Do you subscribe to either premium online console service?
11/29/2014 - Have you ever bought more than one copy or subscription to the same game for yourself?
11/30/2014 - Which scheduled December release are you most looking forward to?
12/1/2014 - How much of your holiday shopping are you doing online this year?

Only tomorrow's poll is actually worth tracking, so I'm going to try and track poll updates for that poll on an internet connection that hasn't really been stable at all.
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#135 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 11/28/2014 8:33:29 PM | message detail
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#136 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 11/29/2014 9:05:36 PM | message detail
JUJU has managed to finish with 0 votes at the freeze in today's poll.
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#137 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 11/30/2014 5:09:46 AM | message detail | (edited)
Looking like a strong GotY contender!

Speaking of which, what big games are going to be contenders anyway? Forgot what all has come out since November hit, and it seems like any of the other games that came out this month that would've been great ended up bombing (I think the new Call of Duty and Dragon Age are the only other November games that didn't disappoint). I guess Shadow of Mordor could do pretty well.

And Smash is probably going to get hurt quite a bit with the two different versions LFFing each other in the final, unless Pokemon or Bravely Default wins the 3DS one.

e: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5547-whats-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year-so-far

Not a great first-half. I'd guess Shadow of Mordor, Smash Bros U, and whatever wins 3DS for the top 3.
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#138 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/1/2014 3:07:09 PM | message detail
#139 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2014 6:50:25 PM | message detail
Poll updates and trend charts from last Thursday's (11/27/2014) poll:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFRtLXhCcXF4VVktX1QtQ1dkTWxla3c&gid=2

I was on vacation at the time we had this poll again and I was unable to get full poll updates. As a result, I got my poll updates from the same data that GameFAQs uses for their poll updates. I did track the first 5 minutes of the poll myself.

Now that I'm back from vacation, I can finally post the trend charts for the 11/27/2014 poll. The trends were quite similar to the same poll from 2013, but with some minor changes in this year's poll.

"Yes, I'll be going out" had a good board vote and Power Hour. It dropped off during the night vote and performed worst from 3:00-7:00 AM. When the morning vote arrived, it recovered from its awful night vote and remained fairly consistent for the rest of the poll.

"Yes, I'll be shopping online" had a good board vote, but finished with an average Power Hour overall. It dropped off slightly during the night vote and performed worst during the late night vote and early morning vote. Compared to the 2013 poll, "Yes, I'll be shopping online" held up much better during the night vote thanks to Black Friday performing better in the UK this year. Several big retailers in the UK started hosting Black Friday sales at their actual physical stores instead of being limited to an online-only thing.

"Yes, I'll be shopping online" reached its lowest percentage of 21.71% at 7:48 AM. But it wasn't until after 8:18 AM that it began to consistently gain percentage. After 8:18 AM, "Yes, I'll be shopping online" quickly reversed its trend of losing percentage and started going on an absolute tear in this poll. "Yes, I'll be shopping online" gained a total of 2.08% in this poll after the 7:48 AM update. Starting at 8:00 AM, "Yes, I'll be shopping online" put up a very strong performance for the rest of the morning vote, day vote, and SNV.

At one point, "Yes, I'll be shopping online" reached a maximum lead of 268 over "No, we don't have Black Friday" at the time of the 1:54 AM update. "No, we don't have Black Friday" managed to take the lead over "Yes, I'll be shopping online" at 6:18 AM. After that, "No, we don't have Black Friday" went on to reach a maximum lead of 177 at 8:18 AM before "Yes, I'll be shopping online" attempted to make a comeback of its own. "Yes, I'll be shopping online" retook the lead at 11:36 AM and never looked back for the rest of the poll. "Yes, I'll be shopping online" finished with a final vote margin of 656 votes.
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#140 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/1/2014 6:50:30 PM | message detail
"No, I won't be buying anything online" had a very powerful board vote and Power Hour. Outside of the Power Hour, only 2 other hours even came close to matching the performance that this option put up during the Power Hour. When the night vote kicked in, "No, I won't be buying anything online" started dropping off hard. In the 2013 poll, "No, I won't be buying anything online" had 3 hours below 30% during the night vote, while it had just one hour below 30% in the 2014 poll. "No, I won't be buying anything online" managed to hold up much better during the night vote in the 2014 poll thanks to Black Friday picking up steam in the UK this year.

"No, I won't be buying anything online" started recovering from its bad night vote when the morning vote kicked in. Overall, it finished with a slightly below average morning vote and performed slightly above average during the day vote. It performed best during the last 5 hours of the poll when Europe started going to sleep. "No, I won't be buying anything online" reached its lowest percentage of 38.37% at 8:48 AM before gaining a total of 2.22% for the rest of the poll.

"No, I won't be buying anything online" reached a maximum lead of 1248 over "No, we don't have Black Friday" at 4:24 AM. After that time, "No, we don't have Black Friday" attempted to cut into that lead, but only managed to cut a total of 130 votes off the lead to get it down to 1118 at 6:54 AM. After 6:54 AM, "No, I won't be buying anything online" started increasing its lead again and was never threatened by "No, we don't have Black Friday" for the rest of the poll.

"No, we don't have Black Friday" had the most extreme trends in this poll. Very terrible board vote and Power Hour. When the night vote kicked in, it slowly began to gain strength as we went deeper into the night vote. It performed best during the hours of 4:00-8:00 AM. In the 2014 poll, it had a weaker night vote compared to the 2013 poll. Because of this, it had only 4 hours above 30% in this poll, compared to the 2013 poll when it had 5 hours above 30%. "No, we don't have Black Friday" reached its maximum percentage of 24.02% at 8:54 AM and lost a total of 3.58% for the rest of the poll.

After the early part of the morning vote died down, it began to collapse very hard. It had fairly consistent trends from 9:00 AM to 8:00 PM before collapsing even more when Europe started going to sleep. It performed worst during the last 3 hours of the poll.

"I'm not sure what Black Friday means" had similar trends to "No, we don't have Black Friday", but they were less extreme. Terrible board vote and Power Hour, strong night vote and early morning vote. Then it starts collapsing after the early morning vote dies down and remains fairly consistent for the rest of the poll.
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#141 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/3/2014 9:02:01 PM | message detail
I am definitely tracking this poll for sure.
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#142 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/4/2014 9:35:36 PM | message detail | (edited)
Poll updates and trend charts for yesterday's poll:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdEFYNFREcUxZZjdpZzg2c3RNZ1FYNVE&gid=1

This poll ended up having some interesting trends, just as I had expected. The trends weren't that extreme, but they are noticeable in this poll.

"Yes, I wake up bright" had a bad board vote and Power Hour. It continued to perform badly during the night vote. Out of all the options in this poll, this one had the best morning vote. It performed best during the early morning vote, between the hours of 6:00 AM and 11:00 AM. It quickly dropped off after 11:00 AM and remained consistent for the rest of the poll.

"Usually, I tend to be" had a good board vote, probably from the morning people voting in this poll right before going to sleep. Because this option dropped off after the board vote to finish the Power Hour looking bad. This option continued to perform badly during the night vote. It performed best during the early morning vote, but it also performed above average during the entire DSV as well. It dropped off during the ASV and performed badly during the SNV.

"Maybe, it all depends" had the most consistent trends throughout this poll. It performed worst during the night vote and ASV.

"Not really, it takes me a while" had a good board vote and Power Hour. It continued to remain strong during the night vote. It performed worst during the morning vote and had a good ASV and SNV.

"Not at all, I hate mornings" had a below average board vote, but ended up having a good Power Hour overall. It continued to remain strong during the night vote, although it dropped off slightly during the deepest part of the night vote, probably because of the Europe vote kicking in. It reached its maximum percentage of 25.32% at 3:45 AM before it started losing percentage again. After 3:45 AM, it lost a total of 3.71% for the rest of the poll. It performed worst during the morning vote, but I thought it would have done even worse than this during the morning vote. It performed slightly better during the ASV and SNV, but it wasn't able to reach the same performance it had during the Power Hour and night vote. The SNV came the closest to matching the same performance it had during the FNV.

The only thing about this poll that disappointed me was the complete lack of any comeback attempts. The 2 options that performed best during the morning vote were the 2 options that finished well behind the other 3 options. Those options happened to be the first 2 options in this poll and they didn't have a morning vote that was strong enough to threaten the third place option in this poll.
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#143 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 12/6/2014 9:30:09 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Looking like a strong GotY contender!

Speaking of which, what big games are going to be contenders anyway? Forgot what all has come out since November hit, and it seems like any of the other games that came out this month that would've been great ended up bombing (I think the new Call of Duty and Dragon Age are the only other November games that didn't disappoint). I guess Shadow of Mordor could do pretty well.

And Smash is probably going to get hurt quite a bit with the two different versions LFFing each other in the final, unless Pokemon or Bravely Default wins the 3DS one.

e: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5547-whats-your-pick-for-game-of-the-year-so-far

Not a great first-half. I'd guess Shadow of Mordor, Smash Bros U, and whatever wins 3DS for the top 3.


Really doubt Bacon would actually let the result of a three-way where Smash made up two of the options stand as the final GOTY poll. That would just be blatantly dumb.

And I don't think I'd take Shadow of Mordor to beat Dark Souls II.
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#144 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/6/2014 12:11:06 PM | message detail
I'm not even sure how Bacon is going to handle Smash Bros. this year in the GotY polls. My guess is that he'll have both the 3DS version and the Wii U version in their own separate polls for the 3DS and Wii U. If both games win their respective polls, the final GotY poll will list Smash Bros. as "Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U".

If the 3DS version wins its poll, but the Wii U version fails to win its poll, the final GotY poll will have Smash Bros. listed as "Super Smash Bros. for 3DS". On the other hand, if the 3DS version fails to win its poll, but the Wii U version wins its own poll, the game will be listed as "Super Smash Bros. for Wii U" in the final GotY poll.
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#145 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2014 6:41:44 PM | message detail
I think enough time has passed since the poll was placed on the main boards page to give a more detailed analysis on the effect it had on vote totals. I officially present...

An Analysis on the Impact of the Poll Change on Vote Totals - A Luster Soldier Production™

The poll change was implemented on November 6th, which placed the poll on the main boards page, in addition to already having it on the homepage. To measure the impact of this change, I will look at the average totals during the 30 day period prior to the change and the 30 day period after the change. The poll on November 6th won't be counted towards either average.

Average vote totals from 10/7/2014 to 11/5/2014 - 25490.30
Average vote totals from 11/7/2014 to 12/6/2014 - 24341.27

When this change first came into place, it was reasonably expected that it would have either a neutral effect on vote totals or a very minor boost. For vote totals to decrease after the poll change happened, you could always blame that on a natural decrease in vote totals that still would have happened even if we never had this poll change. There is more to the average vote totals during that 30 day period after the poll change that is not actually visible just by looking at the averages I posted.

During that 30 day period after the poll change, there is a 14 day period from 11/7/2014 to 11/20/2014 where the average vote totals were 26578.43 (only a 4.27% increase in vote totals). Initially, I was encouraged to see the increase in vote totals, even if it was very minor. After 11/20/2014, the vote totals took a really bad turn and dropped pretty hard. The 16 day period from 11/21/2014 to 12/6/2014 saw average vote totals of only 22383.75 (that is 12.19% lower than the 30 day average before the poll change), along with 6 polls finishing with under 20000 votes.

For the vote totals after the poll change, there are 2 main questions that need to be answered.

1. Why did vote totals mysteriously increase for the first 14 days after the poll change came into effect?

2. What could have caused the heavy drop in vote totals during the 11/21/2014 to 12/6/2014 time period?

Answering the first question is going to be somewhat difficult, but I'll attempt to answer it myself. The second question, however, is much easier to pin down an exact cause and I'll cover that soon.

(to be continued in the next post)
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#146 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 12/7/2014 6:41:48 PM | message detail
The increase in vote totals for the first 14 days after the poll change is most likely caused by the PotD being put into the spotlight for a brief period of time following the announcement of the poll change. During that time, there was an increased awareness that this site actually has a PotD and more people were voting in the polls.

This increase in vote totals also took place around the middle of November, which is when all of the big games of the year were being released. So the traffic could have been higher during that time period, especially for those who came off Google to visit a specific message board topic and later checked out the main boards page and saw the poll. The "increased" traffic from recent major game releases might not be a valid argument to support this increase in vote totals. We've seen in previous years (going back to 2011) that shows no detectable increase in vote totals during the month of November which is always the best month of the year to release games.

There is one other thing that needs to be mentioned and that is the quality of the polls during the period where the vote totals actually increased. The polls during this time period were less s***ty, with some of the polls having a tendency to be more effective at drawing in votes (especially poll 5691). No poll during this 14 day period got less than 22000 votes, although only one poll broke 30000 votes.


The heavy drop in vote totals after 11/20/2014 is equally as mysterious to the increase in vote totals during the first 14 days after the poll change. This drop could be blamed on people, now aware that the poll is on the main boards page, choosing not to visit the homepage anymore to vote in the poll. On the homepage, the poll is located higher up on the page and is more visible. The same cannot be said for main boards page, where the poll is less visible because it is located below the "Board Information" box, pushing it further down on the page. For people who stopped visiting the homepage for the poll since it is now on the main boards page, they may be more likely to not notice the poll. As a result, they might not realize that a new poll has gone up and also vote less regularly in the polls compared to someone who visits the homepage everyday. This could result in reduced vote totals.

Blaming this drop in vote totals on site traffic is a rather poor excuse to begin with. Since the start of 2010, overall site traffic has been a very poor indicator of actual vote totals. Before 2010, vote totals were the product of overall site traffic. So if you have X amount of traffic, you might have average vote totals of 80000 votes (as an example). But if you had X*1.5 amount of traffic (1.5 times more traffic compared to when we were averaging 80000 votes), the average vote totals would actually be 120000 votes. In reality, that hasn't been the case since the start of 2010 when vote totals started dropping. Site traffic is supposedly 5 times higher since 2008, but vote totals are 4 times lower compared to 2008.

One final thing to consider is the quality of the polls after 11/20/2014 has decreased. Some of the polls lately are polls that have a history of having poor vote totals. Only 5 polls have gotten above 25000 votes, with no polls getting above 28000 votes. Even factoring in the initial boost of vote totals immediately after the poll change, overall vote totals have decreased since the poll was placed on the main boards page.

Final conclusion - The poll change has had a negative impact on vote totals. This could potentially be fixed if the poll on the main boards page was located above the "Board Information" box instead of below it. But it's not very likely that Bacon would agree to do something like that.
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#147 | swirIdude | Posted 12/8/2014 7:03:59 AM | message detail
You should submit your analysis to SBAllen and see what he says.
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#148 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/8/2014 12:02:31 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
You should submit all of your analyses to SBAllen and see what he says.


Fixed to a much better idea.
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#149 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 12/8/2014 12:05:28 PM | message detail
Serious post now though, did you compare the votal trends to those of the past several years for the time period? Maybe votals usually drop a lot more at this time of year due to the holidays keeping people busier with family/work/finals and thus playing less games and visiting the site less. Shouldn't be too hard to sum up the votals for the last couple years and compare the trends to this year's.
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#150 | abdou | Posted 12/8/2014 12:24:46 PM | message detail
just how much worse will votals get? 15k? 10k? 5k?

this is unacceptable.
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