Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1187

#51 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/28/2014 9:45:57 PM | message detail
GTA V is looking pretty good in this poll. It may be getting doubled by Skyrim, but that's a game with roughly the same amount of strength as the likes of Melee and FFX.

It seems like GTA V will probably be around the same strength as the previous 4 GTA games (going back to GTA III).
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#52 | LeonhartFour | Posted 6/28/2014 9:48:58 PM | message detail
Well, that's assuming Skyrim still has that level of strength (or ever had that level of strength).

Who knows if we'll ever get to find out, or if it'll matter if we do get a Games Contest because of the prevalence of outside interference and Bacon's proclivity for bad formats.
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#53 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 6/28/2014 10:09:50 PM | message detail
Resident Evil 5 was in the same division as Grand Theft Auto III in GotD and was worth like 48% on it in the stats.

Now it's getting almost tripled by Grand Theft Auto V.
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#54 | Safer_777 | Posted 6/29/2014 3:14:23 AM | message detail
So LeonhartFour said this

So we're just 5 days away from Poll 5555. For Poll 4444, we had this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4444

I don't think we'll have a poll called "What's your all-time favorite '5' game?" for Poll 5555 because there are less notable "5" games than "4" games. The biggest name "5" games are Skyrim, GTA V, Final Fantasy V, Suikoden V, Resident Evil 5, Tekken 5, Mega Man 5, and Mega Man X5.

Outside of Skyrim, FFV, and GTA V, most of those games are worse than the games we had in the "4" game poll.


Funny that we have a poll like that eh? I voted for GTA V myself.
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#55 | Calintares | Posted 6/29/2014 3:33:18 AM | message detail
Do you think FJF have helped FFV noticably?
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#56 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/29/2014 4:18:29 AM | message detail
What the hell is "FJF"?
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#57 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 6/29/2014 4:54:29 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
What the hell is "FJF"?


http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/69457068
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#58 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 6/29/2014 5:09:20 AM | message detail
Also, you should totally join in even if you haven't played FF5 before. If anything, it saves you the problem of trying to grind up every job when you only have four to choose from.
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#59 | pjbasis | Posted 6/29/2014 5:12:13 AM | message detail
So if we have a static RE5 does that make GTAV and Skyrim monsters?
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#60 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 6/29/2014 7:54:49 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
GTA V is looking pretty good in this poll. It may be getting doubled by Skyrim, but that's a game with roughly the same amount of strength as the likes of Melee and FFX.

It seems like GTA V will probably be around the same strength as the previous 4 GTA games (going back to GTA III).


I suspect Melee/FFX would probably roll over Skyrim
#61 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/29/2014 10:22:01 AM | message detail
GTA V looked like absolute s*** in the GotY polls, but now it's doing much better in today's poll.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5383

GTA V got 22.64% in a 3-way GotY poll. ALBW got 64.00% on GTA V, while The Last of Us got 62.09% on it.

With 10 options in today's poll, GTA V only dropped off to 17.70% (as of right now). So it's doing much better compared to that 3-way GotY. Skyrim only has 67.26% on GTA V right now.
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#62 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/30/2014 9:21:08 PM | message detail
Polls for the next several days:

7/1/2014 - Got 3DS?
7/2/2014 - Got Vita?
7/3/2014 - Got PlayStation 4?
7/4/2014 - Got Xbox One?
7/5/2014 - Got Wii U?
7/6/2014 - Got Smartphone?
7/7/2014 - Got Tablet?
7/8/2014 - Got a gaming-quality PC?

I already knew that we would have "Got 3DS?" today, but I was too lazy to post this before this poll started earlier.

Anyways, we will have to wait another 4 days before we can see exactly what kind of impact Mario Kart 8 had on Wii U's ownership on this site.
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#63 | spooky96 | Posted 7/1/2014 6:06:17 AM | message detail
I don't understand why there's a need for 2 polls - 'Got Smartphone?' and 'Got Tablet?' All the apps/games are basically the same on the devices.
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#64 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 7/1/2014 6:17:48 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
GTA V looked like absolute s*** in the GotY polls, but now it's doing much better in today's poll.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5383

GTA V got 22.64% in a 3-way GotY poll. ALBW got 64.00% on GTA V, while The Last of Us got 62.09% on it.

With 10 options in today's poll, GTA V only dropped off to 17.70% (as of right now). So it's doing much better compared to that 3-way GotY. Skyrim only has 67.26% on GTA V right now.


Isn't this a pretty common thing for GTA? It feels like it's one of those "Draws lots of anti-votes" games, so the more options, the more those votes get spread out.

See: San Andreas going from being pretty close to Resident Evil 4 in Game of the Century polls to losing to Golden Sun.
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#65 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/1/2014 8:12:34 PM | message detail
Hmmm.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2995
San Andreas gets 43.36% on RE4.

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3728
San Andreas gets 44.04% on RE4.

And then in GotD, through FFX matches:
Golden Sun is projected to 39.75% on RE4.
San Andreas is projected to get 36.82% on RE4.

Considering that GS > GTA:SA took place on Golden Sun: Dark Dawn's release date, there was advertising on the front page for Dark Dawn, and "NOT THAT SAME MATCH PICTURE AGAIN ARGH," San Andreas might be slightly underrated by the GotD stats. However, Vice City only got 34.31% on RE4 directly, so probably not by much - San Andreas = Golden Sun would be extremely generous.

So there could be something to that.
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#66 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/1/2014 9:07:23 PM | message detail
Damn, the Vita has a extremely terrible board vote. The last option managed to stay over 70% for the first 2 minutes. In the previous Vita poll from about 6 months ago, the last option finished around 50%.

I seriously hope the Vita doesn't take a step backwards regarding its ownership on this site. I don't think the Vita will finish with a lower ownership compared to the previous poll, as the night vote should cause the Vita's ownership to rise.
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#67 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/1/2014 9:11:33 PM | message detail
Massive drop on that update for the last poll option - about 3.5% in one update.

As of yesterday, the 3DS's ownership has risen to 66.86%. With the 3DS poll completed, I have updated my Game System Ownership spreadsheet:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDZFV2I1SFl4VXFDMjQ2RmJqUXJTd0E
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#68 | Safer_777 | Posted 7/2/2014 5:04:44 AM | message detail
They should release good games for Vita thus people would want to buy it.
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#69 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/2/2014 1:31:52 PM | message detail
I like this new feature that was just added to the poll results page for previous polls:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5557

Notice the date before the poll question. That is actually a good idea because it saves me the time of figuring out the exact date that each poll happened on.
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#70 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2014 1:57:16 PM | message detail
SBAllen, always thinking of us.
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#71 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 7/2/2014 2:03:11 PM | message detail
Now I don't have to look at the Board 8 Wiki to know the date of the best contest match of all time. It was November 29, 2010:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4150
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#72 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/2/2014 2:10:03 PM | message detail
This feature doesn't work for the previous contest, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5266

That's because of the layout for the poll results page. I expect every contest match from the previous contest to have the poll results page converted to the normal layout, but SBAllen hasn't gotten around to doing that yet.
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#73 | charmander6000 | Posted 7/2/2014 2:10:21 PM | message detail
I know I was part of it, but San Andreas must have had the most whining among board members in a long time.

Honestly we should have known better.
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#74 | LeonhartFour | Posted 7/2/2014 2:10:51 PM | message detail
He usually doesn't do that until he starts formatting for the next contest, so that may never happen.
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#75 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/2/2014 2:14:19 PM | message detail
We'll definitely be getting another contest in the future. However, we're still waiting on SBAllen to hire a community manager, which was announced several months ago:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/6-message-board-announcements/68521433

I think SBAllen is going to wait until the new community manager has been hired before proceeding with another contest.
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#76 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/2/2014 10:57:47 PM | message detail
I'm surprised there wasn't a post with the Vita's results or the PS4 board vote!
#77 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 7/2/2014 11:06:07 PM | message detail
Luster updated his spreadsheet!

I'd say this is a pretty good performance by the PS4.
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#78 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/3/2014 2:06:52 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
I'm surprised there wasn't a post with the Vita's results or the PS4 board vote!


I never got around to making a post about that.

Also, I didn't comment on the PS4 board vote because there wasn't an extreme trend in the PS4 board vote like there was with the Vita poll.
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#79 | tennisboy213 | Posted 7/3/2014 8:00:38 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
This feature doesn't work for the previous contest, though:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5266

That's because of the layout for the poll results page. I expect every contest match from the previous contest to have the poll results page converted to the normal layout, but SBAllen hasn't gotten around to doing that yet.


Ugh, why did you have to link to that poll?
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#80 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/3/2014 8:22:00 AM | message detail
I only used that poll as an example. There was no specific reason for choosing that one.
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#81 | Genoard | Posted 7/3/2014 3:09:17 PM | message detail
Any news on a new contest in the past few months?
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#82 | MegaWentEvil | Posted 7/3/2014 3:20:03 PM | message detail
Any news on a new contest in the past few months?


I'm fine with anyone BUT Draven winning.
#83 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/3/2014 3:21:34 PM | message detail
Genoard posted...
Any news on a new contest in the past few months?


No news yet. As I posted earlier, I suspect SBAllen wants to have the new community manager in place before proceeding with the next contest. We're coming up on 5 months since the community manager position was first announced on MBA.
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#84 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/3/2014 3:41:04 PM | message detail
243 games in a 3-way games contest, because these unorthodox formats always stick around longer than they should!
#85 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/3/2014 9:31:52 PM | message detail
PS4 has finished with 24.21% ownership. Even though the PS4 has started out better than the Wii U so far, it's possible the PS4 could finish this year with a lower ownership than what the Wii U had by the end of its first full year. Wii U barely finished above 30% by the end of 2013.

Tomorrow will be very interesting, because we will finally get to see what kind of impact Mario Kart 8 had on the Wii U. If Wii U has over 45% ownership tomorrow, I will declare Mario Kart 8 a success. 40-45% ownership would be okay in my opinion, while under 40% would suggest Mario Kart 8 was a failure in selling the Wii U to the hardcore gamers that visit this site.
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#86 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 7/4/2014 3:35:05 AM | message detail
#87 | abdou | Posted 7/4/2014 8:33:21 AM | message detail
so SBallen wants to let a community manager handle any future contest? I guess he doesn't want to deal with the inevitable fallout from another draven/league of legend/whatever reddit back winning the next contest.
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#88 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/4/2014 2:32:54 PM | message detail
We don't know what kind of role the community manager will have during future contests. Considering it's been almost 5 months and no community manager has been hired, I suspect SBAllen could be waiting until the community manager has been hired before proceeding with another contest.
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#89 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/4/2014 9:15:43 PM | message detail
Xbox One ownership has risen to 9.84% in yesterday's poll. Poor Xbox One, it has gained very little ownership over the past 6 months and is slightly over double the ownership it had on launch day. With a Kinect free Xbox One now available ($100 cheaper than the Kinect version) and Microsoft's excellent E3 showing where they showed off games for their entire press conference, the Xbox One should begin doing slightly better.

Today is Wii U and it is currently at 41.28% ownership. That is pretty decent, I suppose. I wasn't expecting Mario Kart 8 to have a huge impact on ownership on this site. Mario Kart 8 was the one game that could sell Wii Us to the casual gamers, but of course this site isn't a casual oriented place. GameFAQs is filled with hardcore gamers and Mario Kart 8 wasn't going to have the same impact on that group as it had on casual gamers.
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#90 | swirIdude | Posted 7/4/2014 9:22:49 PM | message detail
It shouldn't take 5 months to hire a community manager. Maybe Allen's given up on hiring one.
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#91 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/4/2014 9:33:02 PM | message detail
it managed to drop nearly a full 1% in 15 minutes? not bad
#92 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/4/2014 9:38:50 PM | message detail
It was under 40% at the board vote and went over 40% on the 12:10 AM update.
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#93 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 7/4/2014 10:01:20 PM | message detail
and apparently went back down under 40% by the end of the hour
lol these trends
#94 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/5/2014 12:51:56 PM | message detail
The night vote really killed the Wii U here. Now the Wii U is sitting at 35.90% ownership.

Based on Wii U's ownership right now, it seems like Mario Kart 8 was a failure in boosting Wii U ownership on this site. Keep in mind that Wii U had 30.22% ownership at the end of last year. By the time Mario Kart 8 came out, I think Wii U was sitting around 33% ownership, so Mario Kart 8 boosted Wii U's ownership by less than 4%. That's not what you want from a system seller.

I still think Smash Bros. will be the game that generates a significant boost in Wii U ownership.
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#95 | abdou | Posted 7/5/2014 1:19:11 PM | message detail
I think Xenoblade Chronicles X will be a system seller as well, I will get a Wii U for this game alone once it's close to releasing.
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#96 | swirIdude | Posted 7/5/2014 1:34:30 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Based on Wii U's ownership right now, it seems like Mario Kart 8 was a failure in boosting Wii U ownership on this site. Keep in mind that Wii U had 30.22% ownership at the end of last year. By the time Mario Kart 8 came out, I think Wii U was sitting around 33% ownership, so Mario Kart 8 boosted Wii U's ownership by less than 4%. That's not what you want from a system seller.


However...

-LusterSoldier- posted...
Mario Kart 8 was the one game that could sell Wii Us to the casual gamers, but of course this site isn't a casual oriented place. GameFAQs is filled with hardcore gamers and Mario Kart 8 wasn't going to have the same impact on that group as it had on casual gamers.


..so the poll result doesn't mean anything regarding its ability to sell systems.
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#97 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/6/2014 7:28:35 AM | message detail | (edited)
Wii U has finished yesterday with an ownership of 35.86%. I was quite disappointed with Mario Kart 8's impact on Wii U ownership, but at least we have Smash Bros. near the end of this year to really boost ownership. The next mainline Zelda game is the last line of defense for the Wii U on this site if there are users who still haven't bought into Wii U when Smash Bros. comes out.

The ownership spreadsheet has been updated again:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDZFV2I1SFl4VXFDMjQ2RmJqUXJTd0E

Today's Smartphone poll will be the last time that I will be updating the spreadsheet, until we get another batch of "Got Console?" polls after this year's Christmas.


swirIdude posted...
..so the poll result doesn't mean anything regarding its ability to sell systems.


I was never trying to imply that Mario Kart 8 was a system seller on this site. If Mario Kart 8 was truly considered a system seller among this site's users, it would have done much better than increasing Wii U's ownership by less than 3%.

Obviously Mario Kart 8 is a great system seller for the casuals, but not for the hardcore gamers that visit this site.
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#98 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/7/2014 7:59:17 PM | message detail
In yesterday's poll, iPhone's ownership increased to 22.99%, while Android has increased to 48.34%. iPhone came really close to losing ownership since the previous poll at the end of last year, but a strong day vote and SNV allowed iPhone to gain enough percentage to finish with a slightly higher ownership compared to the previous poll.
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#99 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/8/2014 6:46:37 PM | message detail
Polls for the next 3 days:

7/9/2014 - Got PlayStation 3?
7/10/2014 - Got Xbox 360?
7/11/2014 - Got Wii?

We're finally going to get polls for the last-gen systems starting with tomorrow's poll.
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#100 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 7/9/2014 9:15:20 PM | message detail
PS3 ownership has increased to 69.46% in yesterday's poll. It is the highest ownership recorded by the PS3 and it happens after PS4 is already on the market. PS3 came pretty close to reaching 70%, which would have been an amazing accomplishment considering everything the PS3 has been through during its lifecycle. Getting off to a very slow start and Sony doing everything they could to bring the PS3 back from the brink of death.
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