Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1186

#401 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2014 8:26:34 AM | message detail | (edited)
Me too. Who cares if League of Legends does stupid stuff?

Just out of curiosity, when did these stats topics start?
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#402 | abdou | Posted 5/22/2014 8:40:00 AM | message detail
Or we could make a games/character contest and not include League of Legends or its characters.
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#403 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/22/2014 8:50:25 AM | message detail
Just out of curiosity, when did these stats topics start?

2002, along with the first contest.
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#404 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 5/22/2014 9:42:21 AM | message detail
Aw, I see.

Pardon me if I sound like I'm trying to probe you guys too much, but when did you guys pick up on the concept of "transitivity" between contests? I get the feeling that that used to dominate contest discussion, no?
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#405 | Safer_777 | Posted 5/22/2014 9:50:44 AM | message detail | (edited)
I want Characters Contest BUT with all characters that have appeared in Video games. Batman, Superman, Naruto, Chuck Norris, everyone. That would be awesome.



Also who punches other people for video games? Come on now people!
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#406 | charmander6000 | Posted 5/22/2014 10:00:19 AM | message detail
Pardon me if I sound like I'm trying to probe you guys too much, but when did you guys pick up on the concept of "transitivity" between contests?

After 2003 when creativename used the x-stats to dominate the oracle.

It picked up the most steam after the 2004 character contest when it predicted almost the entire contest correctly.
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#407 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/22/2014 10:39:59 AM | message detail
I noticed some very interesting Geolocation results in this poll:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5510

China:
Less than 10 miles (16km) away 12.5%
Between 11 and 25 miles (40km) 4.17%
Between 26 and 100 miles (160km) 0%
Between 101 and 500 miles (800km) 0%
Between 501 and 1500 miles (2400km) 0%
Between 1501 and 3000 miles (4800km) 8.33%
More than 3000 miles (4800km) away 75%

Taiwan:
Less than 10 miles (16km) away 21.43%
Between 11 and 25 miles (40km) 0%
Between 26 and 100 miles (160km) 0%
Between 101 and 500 miles (800km) 0%
Between 501 and 1500 miles (2400km) 7.14%
Between 1501 and 3000 miles (4800km) 0%
More than 3000 miles (4800km) away 71.43%

Hong Kong:
Less than 10 miles (16km) away 27.78%
Between 11 and 25 miles (40km) 16.67%
Between 26 and 100 miles (160km) 5.56%
Between 101 and 500 miles (800km) 0%
Between 501 and 1500 miles (2400km) 0%
Between 1501 and 3000 miles (4800km) 5.56%
More than 3000 miles (4800km) away 44.44%

South Korea:
Less than 10 miles (16km) away 15.38%
Between 11 and 25 miles (40km) 7.69%
Between 26 and 100 miles (160km) 3.85%
Between 101 and 500 miles (800km) 0%
Between 501 and 1500 miles (2400km) 0%
Between 1501 and 3000 miles (4800km) 0%
More than 3000 miles (4800km) away 73.08%

Japan:
Less than 10 miles (16km) away 0.95%
Between 11 and 25 miles (40km) 1.9%
Between 26 and 100 miles (160km) 0.95%
Between 101 and 500 miles (800km) 2.86%
Between 501 and 1500 miles (2400km) 1.9%
Between 1501 and 3000 miles (4800km) 4.76%
More than 3000 miles (4800km) away 86.67%


The results for China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, South Korea, and Japan strongly suggest that most of the voters from those countries aren't native born citizens of those countries. Before that poll, we already knew that very few native born Koreans and Japanese actually come to GameFAQs. I had no idea that China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong also has very few native born people voting in our polls. For reference, here were the vote totals for those 5 countries in that poll:

China - 24
Taiwan - 14
Hong Kong - 18
South Korea - 26
Japan - 105
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#408 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/23/2014 5:07:30 PM | message detail | (edited)
Poll updates and trend charts for last week's sporting event poll:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdHphdU01ZXd5VHJyZi0xMW1HRnhVV2c&gid=1


2014 FIFA World Cup started off the poll with a terrible board vote and Power Hour. It slowly gained more strength as we headed deeper into the night vote. It performed best from 4:00 AM to 8:00 AM. 2014 FIFA World Cup reached its maximum percentage of 23.98% at 9:10 AM. After that point in time, it lost a total of 1.15%, which was a less extreme drop than I had expected.

After 8:00 AM, 2014 FIFA World Cup had a very sharp drop off as a result of the US voters waking up. During the day, it performed worst from 11:00 AM to 2:00 PM. Then after 2:00 PM, it started performing better again (and even managed to gain some percentage), probably as a result of another surge of Europeans voting in the poll before they go to sleep. After 5:00 PM, 2014 FIFA World Cup started dropping off again as the Europeans start going to sleep.

2014 FIFA World Cup performed very badly during the final 4 hours of the poll, with the final hour of the poll being its worst hour.

NBA Playoffs and Stanley Cup Playoffs both had very similar trends - Bad board vote, before recovering from the board vote to finish with a good Power Hour. Bad night vote and early morning vote. Good day vote and SNV. The first 5 minutes of this poll was the only time that Stanley Cup Playoffs would have the lead over NBA Playoffs.

Despite the similar trends here, Stanley Cup Playoffs held up much better during the night vote than NBA Playoffs. This is because Hockey is far less popular in the US compared to Canada, and Hockey gets most of its strength from Canada. Even though Stanley Cup Playoffs had 2 hours that were worse than the worst hour for NBA Playoffs, you have to consider that Stanley Cup Playoffs had a less extreme drop off from the Power Hour to the night vote.

Stanley Cup Playoffs also managed to recover during the morning vote much quicker than NBA Playoffs. NBA Playoffs reached its lowest percentage of 9.89% at 10:35 AM, where as Stanley Cup Playoffs reached its lowest percentage of 8.46% at 7:45 AM. It took until the 12:00-1:00 PM hour for NBA Playoffs to start winning entire hours over Stanley Cup Playoffs. But after that happened, NBA Playoffs was mostly in control during the second half of this poll. Stanley Cup Playoffs also had its best hour during the final hour of the poll, which was even better than the best hour for NBA Playoffs. Overall, NBA Playoffs won 16 out of the 24 hours over Stanley Cup Playoffs.

Indianapolis 500, U.S. Open, Wimbledon, and Another big event all had fairly stable trends over the course of this poll. However, Indianapolis 500 and Another big event had a good board vote and Power Hour. U.S. Open and Wimbledon had a bad board vote and Power Hour.

"No sports for me" performed best during the board vote and Power Hour. We also discovered another thing that early voters hate besides GTA, God of War, and FFVII. That's right, early voters actually hate sports. "No sports for me" had a massive 4.17% drop on the next update after the freeze happened, which is on par with L-Block's second update drop during Chief/Dante/L-Block/Snake.

"No sports for me" continued to perform very well overnight, but then it began to drop off when the US started waking up. After 7:00 AM, "No sports for me" never had a single update above 44.50%. It performed worst during the last 8 hours of the poll, with 3 hours below 40%.
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#409 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 5/25/2014 11:44:44 AM | message detail
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#410 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/25/2014 12:23:38 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
After 7:00 AM, "No sports for me" never had a single update above 44.50%.


"single hour", not "single update". Sorry about that.
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#411 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 5/26/2014 4:47:43 AM | message detail
Boy, this poll's not good for Draven's chances.

(I'm being sarcastic because I know several people will take that at face value.)
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#412 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/26/2014 5:37:06 AM | message detail
MOBA games also got anti-voted during the board vote. So there's another thing that early voters also hate, along with GTA, Watch Dogs, God of War, FFVII, WoW, and sports.

The last option had 55.56% at the freeze and 50.04% at the end of the Power Hour. It continued to lose some more percentage during the night vote. The last option has also managed to gain over 1% since reaching its lowest percentage of 48.32% at 5:12 AM. Early on, the last option was gaining percentage near the end of the night vote because of the results in the UK. But now that the morning vote is already in progress for the US, the last option has managed to gain over 1% in the US.

This poll has also shown that the Geolocation results are very inconsistent for Europe. In some countries, MOBA games are performing very well there, while they are sucking badly in other countries. On average, MOBA games seem to be performing worse in Europe than the US or Canada.
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#413 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/26/2014 9:18:41 PM | message detail | (edited)
Now that the MOBA game poll has come to an end, I can now look at the Geolocation trends in more detail.

Dota 2 was more popular than League of Legends in the Philippines, Indonesia, and Malaysia, which makes Dota 2 the more preferred MOBA game in Asia. Everywhere else in the world, League is the preferred MOBA game.

As mentioned in my previous post, this poll has very inconsistent results across Europe. MOBA games were last popular in the UK, Ireland, France, Germany, Italy, Switzerland, and Belgium. They were most popular in Portugal, and performed better than average in most of the other European countries. Overall, MOBA games seem to be less popular in Europe than the US or Canada.

Although Draven performed best in Europe in all of his matches, we already know that those results in Europe do not represent the actual results of our normal European voters. A quick took at the Teemo match would show that Teemo's results in Europe were very similar to the worldwide results.
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#414 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 5/26/2014 9:45:49 PM | message detail
so what happens with LoL vs FFVII vs GoW vs GTA vs Watch Dogs
#415 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/26/2014 9:49:58 PM | message detail
I'm surprised we didn't get a "Got Watch Dogs?" poll today considering that is it the biggest game release since GTA V last year. I'd be interested in seeing the Watch Dogs board vote in action for a second time.

I have no idea who wins the board vote in "LoL vs FFVII vs GoW vs GTA vs Watch Dogs". Although we should throw World of Warcraft into the mix as well, since it is also a heavily anti-voted game.
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#416 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 5/28/2014 8:15:01 PM | message detail
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#417 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/29/2014 7:17:46 PM | message detail
It looks like tomorrow's poll will not be "Got Mario Kart 8?". Tomorrow's poll will be "Have you ever played a real pinball machine?".

I'm a bit disappointed we're not getting "Got Mario Kart 8?", because it is one of 2 high profile games released during this month and neither of them got a "Got Game?" poll. It would also help us get a better read on the potential impact of Wii U's ownership on GameFAQs, before the next batch of "Got Console?" polls in early July.
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#418 | Haste_2 | Posted 5/29/2014 9:13:09 PM | message detail
We should all nominate Jean Armstrong for the next character contest.
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#419 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 5/31/2014 9:09:20 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Average vote totals for each month this year:

January - 32267 (minus the GotY polls)
February - 31668
March - 29863
April - 29748
May - 28361 (extremely small sample size so far)


Now that we have gone through another full month, our average vote totals for May were 28632. So our average vote totals just dropped by another 1100 over the course of last month.

To be fair, we had a terrible line-up of polls during May that really hurt our average vote totals for May. We had only 8 polls with more than 30000 votes, with our best poll just barely finishing above 33000 votes. At least April had the age poll (over 40000 votes) to help out the average vote totals for that month.
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#420 | Safer_777 | Posted 6/1/2014 7:10:39 AM | message detail
Man most people here play by themselves eh?
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#421 | charmander6000 | Posted 6/1/2014 7:35:08 AM | message detail
GameFAQs where you can play alone, together.
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#422 | abdou | Posted 6/1/2014 11:25:54 AM | message detail
Sport games are the only time I prefer online over playing by myself, it's FIFA mostly for me that I play online.

Single-Player games are the best, when a dev start focusing on multiplayer the game loses a lot of quality. Just look at ME2 and ME3.
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#423 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/1/2014 12:33:08 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Man most people here play by themselves eh?


If you compared to this poll to the same poll we had in 2011, there has been an increase in the number of people who prefer to play games by themselves. Today's poll result is another example of how our higher average age is affecting poll results.

Because GameFAQs users are about 2 1/2 years older today than they were when we had this poll in 2011, they have less time to play video games because of college, working, or raising a family (for those who have kids). That means whenever they do have time for playing games, they would rather play single-player games instead of multiplayer games. Having less time to play games will hurt multiplayer gaming far more than single-player gaming.
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#424 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/2/2014 9:06:56 PM | message detail
On the subject of vote totals:

I actually found a website that gets more votes in their polls than the vote totals we used to get during the GameFAQs golden age (2007 to 2009). On the website ESPN, they run polls on their homepage that can easily get 200000 votes in less than 24 hours. This is actually quite impressive when you consider the poll is located near the bottom of the page where it has less visibility.

The trends on the poll were a lot different than a normal GameFAQs poll, with the ESPN voter base being almost exclusively North American (less than 10% of the votes come from outside North America), while GameFAQs is around 75% North America. Unlike GameFAQs, the ESPN website does not have any consistent schedule for when each poll begins and ends. They could put up a new poll at any time of the day.

Here was hourly vote distribution for an ESPN poll that started around 11:23 PM EST on June 1st:

Time | Votes
24:00 | 12298
1:00 | 12902
2:00 | 8059
3:00 | 4894
4:00 | 3141
5:00 | 2534
6:00 | 3146
7:00 | 5506
8:00 | 8938
9:00 | 12094
10:00 | 14402
11:00 | 15026
12:00 | 16199
13:00 | 17732
14:00 | 16649
15:00 | 14654
16:00 | 5396 <------- The poll was removed from the ESPN homepage at 3:15 PM EST
17:00 | 2535
18:00 | 2046

The poll had 171528 votes at 3:15 PM EST. Even after the poll was removed from the ESPN homepage, you could still vote in the poll though. It simply wasn't listed on the homepage, so the vote totals dropped off immediately after it got removed from the homepage. There is a place on the ESPN website where you can still vote on recently created polls, but of course it has far less exposure than being on the homepage.

If a site like ESPN can draw in these kind of vote totals, imagine what GameFAQs could do if Allen would take website design more seriously and did more to increase traffic to the homepage.
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#425 | swirIdude | Posted 6/3/2014 4:40:47 AM | message detail
Even if Allen worked a miracle, there is no way GameFAQs can compete with ESPN in traffic, so that kind of performance is impossible.
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#427 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/3/2014 5:24:58 AM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
Even if Allen worked a miracle, there is no way GameFAQs can compete with ESPN in traffic, so that kind of performance is impossible.


I wouldn't expect GameFAQs to ever reach ESPN levels of vote totals, but better website design could allow us to average around 100000 votes per day as a result of more traffic to the homepage.
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#428 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/4/2014 10:58:07 AM | message detail
I think the obvious solution is to move the GameFAQs character battles to ESPN.com
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#429 | abdou | Posted 6/4/2014 11:18:58 AM | message detail
bad website design is the reason for our bad votals? I doubt it, I think gamefaqs just doesn't get the same traffic it did few years ago (all traffic tracking sites confirm this)
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#430 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 6/4/2014 11:21:21 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
I think the obvious solution is to move the GameFAQs character battles to ESPN.com


Nah, let's move it to the League of Legends subreddit. It was practically there last contest anyway.
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#431 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/4/2014 2:29:42 PM | message detail
abdou posted...
bad website design is the reason for our bad votals? I doubt it, I think gamefaqs just doesn't get the same traffic it did few years ago (all traffic tracking sites confirm this)


Bad website design makes it more difficult for site visitors to find the homepage.
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#432 | abdou | Posted 6/4/2014 2:48:45 PM | message detail
but why didn't visitors have hard time finding the homepage before? we used to average what 100k ? something drastic happened to cause such a significant fall in votals and less traffic seems like the only explanation that makes sense. Whatever it is, Allen is obviously not trying to do anything about it.
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#433 | charmander6000 | Posted 6/4/2014 2:55:41 PM | message detail
There's no reason to go to the home page anymore.
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#434 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/4/2014 3:53:59 PM | message detail
abdou posted...
but why didn't visitors have hard time finding the homepage before? we used to average what 100k ? something drastic happened to cause such a significant fall in votals and less traffic seems like the only explanation that makes sense. Whatever it is, Allen is obviously not trying to do anything about it.


Here is a post explaining one aspect of GameFAQs that has bad website design:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/68479069/783557888
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#435 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/4/2014 7:38:03 PM | message detail
Anyone else think Luigi's gonna get a nice boost due to MK8? The Death Stare meme's pretty big right now, and with the right pics...
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#436 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/4/2014 8:30:53 PM | message detail
I don't think that would happen.


charmander6000 posted...
There's no reason to go to the home page anymore.


The homepage is severely lacking in content that would interest other site visitors, so people have no reason to check it out. Having a severe lack of content on the homepage would qualify as bad website design, so my argument of "bad website design" would still apply here.
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#437 | superange128 | Posted 6/4/2014 8:33:50 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Anyone else think Luigi's gonna get a nice boost due to MK8? The Death Stare meme's pretty big right now, and with the right pics...


Everyone's going to forget about it by next contest
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#438 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 6/4/2014 9:31:22 PM | message detail
With all the stuff from Year of Luigi, Luigi is probably already about as strong as he's ever likely to get. And I'm not sure Year of Luigi was worth all that much.
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#439 | superange128 | Posted 6/5/2014 11:38:34 AM | message detail
#440 | charmander6000 | Posted 6/5/2014 12:26:16 PM | message detail
I think it did something, without Ness he would have easily won over Big Boss. I'm not sure I would take him to win in 2010.

For a character as universally known as Luigi it is hard for him to get a boost.
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#441 | Safer_777 | Posted 6/5/2014 2:23:05 PM | message detail
Okay so all these movies are coming out? I only knew 1 of them!
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#442 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/6/2014 6:31:02 PM | message detail
Polls for the next 3 days:

6/7/2014 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
6/8/2014 - How closely are you following E3 this year?
6/9/2014 - How many of the four big E3 press conferences are you watching today?

Last year, we had 2 polls on the same day as last year's poll for "How many of the four big E3 press conferences are you watching today?". It's possible we could have 2 polls per day on both June 9th and June 10th.
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#443 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/6/2014 9:06:29 PM | message detail | (edited)
It took until vote 146 for "None, I've never played a single game of any version of Tetris" to receive its first vote.

Tetris had a 97.36% playrate in the following poll from early 2005:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1890


As of right now, Tetris has a playrate of 98.61% at the freeze in this poll.
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#444 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/6/2014 9:10:45 PM | message detail
And now the playrate jumped over 99% on the second update of this poll.
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#445 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/7/2014 3:28:46 AM | message detail
That's gotta be the highest playrate for any game on this site, right? I can't really see anything beating Tetris on that.
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#446 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/7/2014 4:52:01 AM | message detail
I don't believe anything else even comes close to it. Even the original SMB has nothing on Tetris as far as playrate goes.
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#447 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 6/8/2014 1:32:14 AM | message detail
Tetris ended up with a final playrate of 98.85% in yesterday's poll. The surprising thing was the disappointing vote totals. Didn't even reach 27000 votes, which was below last month's average vote totals of 28632. A poll about the most widely played game should have gotten better vote totals than that.
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#448 | charmander6000 | Posted 6/8/2014 5:41:50 AM | message detail
Tetris never did bring in the vote totals so it's not that surprising.
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#449 | Not_Wylvane (Topic Creator) | Posted 6/8/2014 11:30:27 AM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Tetris never did bring in the vote totals so it's not that surprising.


http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2925
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#450 | charmander6000 | Posted 6/8/2014 12:29:49 PM | message detail
Was thinking more of 2004 than L-Block
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