Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1185

#51 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:02:40 PM | message detail
And the previous poll just ended with Pokemon going into clutch mode with a 22 vote cut. Pokemon loses by 37 votes.
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#52 | red sox 777 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:03:19 PM | message detail
Wow, Pokemon fans rallying for a GOTY poll. I'm glad it wasn't a contest poll, or Pokemon might have won.
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#53 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:04:53 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
lol PC is skipped.

Wonder if the multi-platform losers will reappear on the 360 poll


I don't think Bacon is going in alphabetical order for these systems. A PC poll is still possible.
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#54 | ninkendo | Posted 1/1/2014 9:05:04 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
After a 12 year hiatus, Devil May Cry finally makes it back into a GotY poll. Too bad it's DmC.


but it's a great game!

just not REVENGEANCE GREAT
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#55 | Articuno2001 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:05:52 PM | message detail
From: Articuno2001 | #003
Every PS3 game in my Top 10 isn't in the poll.

all four of them, and they're all PS3 exclusives

-_-


terrible poll

Bacon fails
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#56 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/1/2014 9:06:19 PM | message detail
Last of Us taking names is great though.

Poor GTAV.
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#57 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:07:30 PM | message detail
ninkendo posted...
Team Rocket Elite posted...
After a 12 year hiatus, Devil May Cry finally makes it back into a GotY poll. Too bad it's DmC.


but it's a great game!

just not REVENGEANCE GREAT


Well it's dead last right now so it doesn't seem like the voters agree!
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#58 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:10:57 PM | message detail
Final poll updates for yesterday:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDg3ZnY4UWNKTldJcHljRXlOSTY1TXc
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#59 | ninkendo | Posted 1/1/2014 9:11:12 PM | message detail
well every poll in this game is great so it's not too bad that it's in last

Even Diablo III the console version was so much better than the original PC version
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#60 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:12:49 PM | message detail
I don't think Bacon is going in alphabetical order for these systems. A PC poll is still possible.

But the PC was always before the PS2/PS3 poll.
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#61 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:16:38 PM | message detail
Like Oliver looks like Ni no Kuni is good for 20%
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#62 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/1/2014 9:23:39 PM | message detail
Hm.

Niko got 30% on Epona and 39% on Mordin in the same poll.
Vercetti got 32% against Crash.
Oliver would have gotten at least 25% on Leon 1-on-1.

Clearly GTA is unworthy of Isaac. Time to start hyping Oliver.
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#63 | pjbasis | Posted 1/1/2014 9:29:30 PM | message detail
#64 | pjbasis | Posted 1/1/2014 9:31:27 PM | message detail
Also what the hey is ACIV and GTAV gonna be on the 360 poll too?

OR are multiplatform games arbitrarily being assigned to different consoles
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#65 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:37:17 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Also what the hey is ACIV and GTAV gonna be on the 360 poll too?

OR are multiplatform games arbitrarily being assigned to different consoles


Unless we see the 360 poll, I will assume that all multiplatform games will appear in multiple polls, depending on what systems they appear on. GTA V wasn't able to win today's poll, but it should win the 360 poll because I don't know of any notable 360 exclusives that could threaten GTA V.
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#66 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:40:26 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5349

Quite the different performance from GTA V this time around.
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#67 | swordz9 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:45:15 PM | message detail
ZeldaFAQs so painfully boring yet again. Not sure why people ever doubt it will win with the history it has on this site! I didn't expect Ni no Kuni to be in 2nd place in this poll though or Tales of Xillia to not even be on it.
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#68 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:48:21 PM | message detail
The performance from "The Last of Us" today is good enough to make me believe it will defeat Zelda in the overall GotY poll.
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#69 | swordz9 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:51:48 PM | message detail
I just meant for the 3DS poll though I wouldn't be surprised if it got the overall one either. Things on this site have just gotten to the point where the only way Zelda could ever surprise me in any poll is by coming in dead last.
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#70 | pjbasis | Posted 1/1/2014 10:04:35 PM | message detail
I don't know if you remember the last contest with all the Pokedomination, but it was worse than anything Link has done.
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#71 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/1/2014 10:06:07 PM | message detail
...We had an extremely close Zelda/Pokemon match just last contest and Zelda didn't win it.

And having not played any game in the poll, I think there's a good case that Link Between Worlds deserved the win. Pokemon has an exciting release pretty much ever year while LBW appears to be the consensus choice for best (non-port) handheld or 2-D Zelda game in over a decade.
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#72 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/2/2014 1:16:10 AM | message detail
KrisIsLyra posted...
Mainstream changed a lot more than GameFAQs did. Mainstream went from liking JRPGs to thinking they're all ****, and praising FPS and some WRPGs. GameFAQs' problem is that its too stuck in the past.


I specifically pointed to newer Zelda/FF games not being very popular on this site - and even both series in general declining in popularity over the past few years (see Link failing to break 55% on Snake last contest and most post-SNES FF characters just generally making fools out of themselves). But you're definitely not completely wrong, far from it.
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#73 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/2/2014 3:41:54 AM | message detail
The Zelda drones did it again...Eh whatever.As for today I am surprised that The Last Of Us is winning this easily. But we have another close battle for 2nd place! Currently Ninokuni is beating GTA V by 2 votes!
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#74 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/2/2014 3:43:53 AM | message detail
Last of Us crushing it. It's got GotY locked up.
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#75 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/2/2014 7:23:15 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
KrisIsLyra posted...
Mainstream changed a lot more than GameFAQs did. Mainstream went from liking JRPGs to thinking they're all ****, and praising FPS and some WRPGs. GameFAQs' problem is that its too stuck in the past.


I specifically pointed to newer Zelda/FF games not being very popular on this site - and even both series in general declining in popularity over the past few years (see Link failing to break 55% on Snake last contest and most post-SNES FF characters just generally making fools out of themselves). But you're definitely not completely wrong, far from it.


On that note, Old Square without Dissidia sucks too (case in point: Locke getting humiliated by Ness and nearly letting CATS get 40% on him), although in fairness, Boko almost got second place and Rydia didn't look too bad either.
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#76 | Karma Hunter | Posted 1/2/2014 7:38:26 AM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
...We had an extremely close Zelda/Pokemon match just last contest and Zelda didn't win it.

And having not played any game in the poll, I think there's a good case that Link Between Worlds deserved the win. Pokemon has an exciting release pretty much ever year while LBW appears to be the consensus choice for best (non-port) handheld or 2-D Zelda game in over a decade.


I think it's fairly obvious that X/Y would have won its GotY poll if it were a real contest match, though (and by the same logic Zelda would have won her match going away if it had been in a non-contest setting).

Not sure I can agree that ABW 'deserved' the win - much as I hate to play Devil's Advocate against a successor to my second fave Zelda, it's really that in so many ways: riding off the coattails of LttP. X/Y is supposed to be the 'next leap forward for Pokemon' in comparison, so I dunno. I'd say I'd have expected more, but I'm sure it'll boost up to a more formidable state in an actual contest setting.
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#77 | ZFS | Posted 1/2/2014 8:25:30 AM | message detail
Saying LBW is 'riding coattails' while X/Y is the 'next leap forward' is way off base, I think. Not a good assessment of either game in any context. Between the two, LBW will probably represent a shifting point in its series. It uses a familiar setting to explore a bunch of new ideas and design choices that are either new to Zelda or long forgotten in the modern era. Certainly deserving of a win over Pokemon, or any game this year!
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#78 | swordz9 | Posted 1/2/2014 8:33:16 AM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
...We had an extremely close Zelda/Pokemon match just last contest and Zelda didn't win it.

I'm not talking about non-game matches and besides Zelda and Ganondorf are obviously far lower in strength than Link. It took a mass of outside forces for him to ever even lose or be close to losing a match in years!
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#79 | The Mana Sword | Posted 1/2/2014 8:33:24 AM | message detail
I don't think either game strays very far from its predecessors. They both have upgrades but I don't really consider either a big shift, despite what people think about Zelda. And that's fine! They're both great, fun games! Good games should be celebrated rather than torn down in attempt to justify a GameFAQs poll result!
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#80 | Poll5267 | Posted 1/2/2014 8:54:54 AM | message detail
I don't think TLOU performance says anything about if it can beat Zelda or not

I think GTA V got SFF'd hard here...and AC IV even more
Seriously it's doing so bad here
#81 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/2/2014 9:17:02 AM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
...We had an extremely close Zelda/Pokemon match just last contest and Zelda didn't win it.

I'm not talking about non-game matches and besides Zelda and Ganondorf are obviously far lower in strength than Link. It took a mass of outside forces for him to ever even lose or be close to losing a match in years!

While they are generally very strong, Zelda games have lost to quite a few non-Zelda games by this point. For specifically Zelda vs. Pokemon instances, Spirit Tracks and Ocarina of Time 3D lost their GOTY polls to Pokemon and RBY crushed Majora's Mask in the 2009 contest despite the latter being considered the favorite going in.

Extrapolating Link and Ocarina of Time's invincibility to mean other Zelda games can't lose is nonsense. People generally understand this with Ganondorf and Zelda, I am not sure why they have a hard time with it for games - or thinking Dark Link would be Noble Nine strength for that matter.
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#82 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 1/2/2014 9:26:58 AM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
swordz9 posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
...We had an extremely close Zelda/Pokemon match just last contest and Zelda didn't win it.

I'm not talking about non-game matches and besides Zelda and Ganondorf are obviously far lower in strength than Link. It took a mass of outside forces for him to ever even lose or be close to losing a match in years!

While they are generally very strong, Zelda games have lost to quite a few non-Zelda games by this point. For specifically Zelda vs. Pokemon instances, Spirit Tracks and Ocarina of Time 3D lost their GOTY polls to Pokemon and RBY crushed Majora's Mask in the 2009 contest despite the latter being considered the favorite going in.

Extrapolating Link and Ocarina of Time's invincibility to mean other Zelda games can't lose is nonsense. People generally understand this with Ganondorf and Zelda, I am not sure why they have a hard time with it for games - or thinking Dark Link would be Noble Nine strength for that matter.


Agreed - hell, in the "How would this character do in a contest setting" threads, I called out the notion that Dark Link would be a high midcarder by saying that being Zelda doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna be a powerhouse. The only way I can see him being that strong, personally, is getting votes by being a Link proxy. And on that note, if Dark Samus ever got in, I'd expect her to be significantly weaker than Samus.
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#83 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/2/2014 9:00:42 PM | message detail
Vita poll today. Which means we should expect some very terrible vote totals.
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#84 | Articuno2001 | Posted 1/2/2014 9:18:08 PM | message detail
ya go my Ys
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#85 | abdou | Posted 1/2/2014 9:19:06 PM | message detail
aren't all polls getting very terrible vote totals anyway?

also a Ys game winning is just beautiful
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#86 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/2/2014 9:35:02 PM | message detail
abdou posted...
aren't all polls getting very terrible vote totals anyway?


You're right that the polls were getting very terrible vote totals even before the GotY polls started. Here are our monthly vote totals last year for non-contest polls:

January - 34358 (Minus the GotY polls, the average is 40067)
February - 40052
March - 38303
April - 39852
May - 40006
June - 41234
July - 37621 (extremely limited sample size)
September - 35053
October - 34995
November - 32469
December - 30916

Despite the huge increase in traffic from the Draven matches, we are having our worst vote totals ever. Vote totals were better before the start of our last contest.
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#87 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 1/3/2014 3:30:28 AM | message detail
Ahahahaha, Ys is actually winning something.
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#88 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/3/2014 4:11:39 AM | message detail
GTA 5 managed to come 2nd. As for this one...yeah sure. We might have a record of lowest votes on a game on a multiway poll though! Velocity now has 48 votes!
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#89 | Nanis23 | Posted 1/3/2014 4:18:46 AM | message detail
87 Meta Ranking for Velocity
Does this mean all other games in the poll are masterpiece or something
#90 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/3/2014 4:29:24 AM | message detail
They are just more famous. I don't know a Vita and I don't know about it's games. BUT I know all these games except Velocity and Miami.
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#91 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/3/2014 4:44:36 AM | message detail
Tearaway has the highest score on Gamerankings, but I've heard more about Ys so I'm not surprised it is winning.
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#92 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/3/2014 7:39:56 AM | message detail
Judging by the vote totals so far, we'll probably end up around 15000 votes today.
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#93 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/3/2014 8:07:40 AM | message detail
Nobody really cares for Vita...
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#94 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/3/2014 10:20:28 AM | message detail
6 hours after I posted and Velocity has 89 votes! That means 41 votes in 6 hours...Nice!
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#95 | Nanis23 | Posted 1/3/2014 2:20:55 PM | message detail
Those vote totals are so badddddddddd

Also something I noticed
The 3DS poll vote totals were not that far off from the PS3 poll,even though it featured many multiplatform games
However according to ownership polls it seems like more people in this site own a PS3 than a 3DS so it's kinda weird that the PS3 votes were so low compared to 3DS
#96 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/3/2014 2:26:39 PM | message detail
Zelda and Pokemon bring in votes.
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#97 | Nanis23 | Posted 1/3/2014 2:51:28 PM | message detail
Yeah
Which actually makes me believe TLOU is not a lock for GOTY,you know?
#98 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/3/2014 3:00:11 PM | message detail
Super Mario 3D World and Zelda will be LFFing each other though.
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#99 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 1/3/2014 3:50:34 PM | message detail
Maybe if there's a top three poll in the end it's not. I doubt both SM3DW and Zelda would get there with the LFF, so Zelda could get there and get a shot at beating TLOU.
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#100 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/3/2014 6:03:28 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
The 3DS poll vote totals were not that far off from the PS3 poll,even though it featured many multiplatform games
However according to ownership polls it seems like more people in this site own a PS3 than a 3DS so it's kinda weird that the PS3 votes were so low compared to 3DS


The PS3 poll barely got more votes than the 3DS poll. PS3's ownership on GameFAQs isn't that much higher than the 3DS to begin with. PS3's highest known ownership is 67.91%, while the 3DS got 63.66% in the most recent 3DS ownership poll.
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