Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1185

#1 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 1/1/2014 9:02:52 AM | message detail
Our first day of GotY polls and we already have a very close match on the first day.

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | Poll5267 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:07:11 AM | message detail
It's been YEARS since a Zelda game was received as well as ALBW and even though all of this and ZeldaFAQs Pokemon is still leading
Even if LBW wins at the end,this is one crazy performance
#3 | ProphetProfit | Posted 1/1/2014 9:11:28 AM | message detail
does anyone here who played both games actually think pokemon x/y is better than LBW?
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#4 | Poll5267 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:12:55 AM | message detail
ProphetProfit posted...
does anyone here who played both games actually think pokemon x/y is better than LBW?


Me
And I consider LBW to be the best 2D Zelda...and I like them alot
But Pokemon is..Pokemon,you know?
#5 | ProphetProfit | Posted 1/1/2014 9:18:06 AM | message detail
yeah, pokemon is pokemon... the same game it's been for 20 years... i know the zelda formula hasn't changed much either but pokemon, if anything, has gotten worse. i've never been a huge fan of the series but from what i've played, none of the newer gens have added enough to make them worth playing. and the first gen pokemon are the best
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#6 | GANON1025 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:19:51 AM | message detail
ProphetProfit posted...
yeah, pokemon is pokemon... the same game it's been for 20 years... i know the zelda formula hasn't changed much either but pokemon, if anything, has gotten worse. i've never been a huge fan of the series but from what i've played, none of the newer gens have added enough to make them worth playing. and the first gen pokemon are the best


what
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#7 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/1/2014 9:23:40 AM | message detail
Zelda seeks her revenge, but can even ZeldaFAQs be enough to stop Mega Charizard?
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#8 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:27:02 AM | message detail
Man enough with the Zelda love here! Pokemon all the way!
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#9 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:44:59 AM | message detail
I would say something about Americans and their taste in Videogames but well this new Zelda game is apparently the best Zelda game since OOT so I guess it deserves to win. Still Pokemon!
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#10 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 10:26:29 AM | message detail
Anyone find it interesting that Pokemon is losing terribly in France?
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#11 | The Mana Sword | Posted 1/1/2014 10:27:28 AM | message detail
the french are mad about all the stereotypical frenchy stuff in x/y
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#12 | KrisIsLyra | Posted 1/1/2014 10:35:58 AM | message detail
ProphetProfit posted...
does anyone here who played both games actually think pokemon x/y is better than LBW?


I liked Pokemon better, but admittedly I like Pokemon as a whole much better. Zelda isn't bad but I'm sick of every half-decent Zelda game getting praised as a top game of all time.
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#13 | ZFS | Posted 1/1/2014 10:38:34 AM | message detail
played both. pokemon not that good, zelda top tier all-time.
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#14 | The Mana Sword | Posted 1/1/2014 10:39:40 AM | message detail
played both. pokemon fantastic. Zelda fantasticer.
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#15 | HaRRicH | Posted 1/1/2014 10:43:10 AM | message detail
BEST OF 2013: 3DS
Animal Crossing: New Leaf 5.66% 983
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D 1.33% 231
Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan 1.99% 345
Fire Emblem: Awakening 18.68% 3243
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon 2.59% 449
Pokemon X/Y 31.82% 5524
Shin Megami Tensei IV 6.09% 1057
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 31.84% 5528
TOTAL VOTES 17360

Believe that's our first lead-change.
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#16 | ctesjbuvf | Posted 1/1/2014 10:43:15 AM | message detail
ProphetProfit posted...
yeah, pokemon is pokemon... the same game it's been for 20 years... i know the zelda formula hasn't changed much either but pokemon, if anything, has gotten worse. i've never been a huge fan of the series but from what i've played, none of the newer gens have added enough to make them worth playing. and the first gen pokemon are the best


Gen 5 did a lot of new stuff and was the best gen imo.

I loved X and Y too and would take them over many Zeldas but ALBW is among the best and got my support here.
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#17 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/1/2014 10:44:27 AM | message detail
Didn't play X/Y, but ALBW is the first 2-D Zelda I've really enjoyed.
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#18 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/1/2014 10:52:02 AM | message detail
Nintendofaqs man! Oh wait! I mean Zeldafaqs!
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#19 | ProphetProfit | Posted 1/1/2014 10:54:37 AM | message detail
i'm not saying that pokemon is bad, it's just not for me. i really liked yellow when i played it years ago but when i've tried to play any game since then it just felt like i was playing this exact same game with worse characters and worse pokemon. like i said earlier, the zelda formula hasn't changed much either but even with LBW being set in nearly the same world as LTTP, it felt like a brand new experience. i'll admit that zelda is my favorite series ever though so maybe i'm just biased
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#20 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/1/2014 11:09:43 AM | message detail
Luster, your spreadsheet stopped updating at noon.
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#21 | KrisIsLyra | Posted 1/1/2014 11:18:18 AM | message detail
Hopefully the LAW gives us a handheld GotY for once
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#22 | swirIdude | Posted 1/1/2014 12:28:26 PM | message detail
Pokemon still has a chance! Alert the internet!
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#23 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 1/1/2014 12:40:28 PM | message detail
A surprise out of schedule Pokemon Bank release would clinch this for Pokemon. But maybe that should be saved for the final GotY poll if Pokemon XY can make it that far.
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#24 | Poll5267 | Posted 1/1/2014 12:42:15 PM | message detail
Oh yeah Pokebank release would make many people come here
I just wish both of them would advance,they are both worthy of being in the finals
#25 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/1/2014 12:49:33 PM | message detail
Where is Reddit when you need it to vote for Pokemon?
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#26 | lightning-02 | Posted 1/1/2014 12:59:29 PM | message detail
Poll5267 posted...
It's been YEARS since a Zelda game was received as well as ALBW and even though all of this and ZeldaFAQs Pokemon is still leading
Even if LBW wins at the end,this is one crazy performance


It was much better than people expected and flew under the radar a little bit at a very congested release time. I'd imagine a lot of people haven't played it yet or are still playing it from christmas, hold the poll in 6 months time and there'd be a clear gap between them but right now it's probably playrate keeping it on the ground.
#27 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 1/1/2014 1:28:06 PM | message detail
Yeah Pokemon XY was hyped like crazy on this site. This site's tastes in games has diverged quite a lot from the "mainstream" over the past few years, and even Zelda and Final Fantasy haven't withstood the GameFAQs shift. Granted, it doesn't help that the last few installments in both series were pretty divisive among fans.
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#28 | KrisIsLyra | Posted 1/1/2014 1:36:37 PM | message detail
Mainstream changed a lot more than GameFAQs did. Mainstream went from liking JRPGs to thinking they're all ****, and praising FPS and some WRPGs. GameFAQs' problem is that its too stuck in the past.
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#29 | Surskit | Posted 1/1/2014 1:50:44 PM | message detail
KrisIsLyra posted...
Mainstream went from liking JRPGs to thinking they're all ****, and praising FPS and some WRPGs.


um
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#30 | Safer_777 | Posted 1/1/2014 3:40:03 PM | message detail
Man if this was a real contest match this place would have gone nuts.
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#31 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 3:50:06 PM | message detail
HaRRicH posted...
Believe that's our first lead-change.


First lead change happened at 1:35 PM. Also got spreadsheet back up to date again.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdDg3ZnY4UWNKTldJcHljRXlOSTY1TXc
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#32 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 3:58:15 PM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Yeah Pokemon XY was hyped like crazy on this site. This site's tastes in games has diverged quite a lot from the "mainstream" over the past few years, and even Zelda and Final Fantasy haven't withstood the GameFAQs shift. Granted, it doesn't help that the last few installments in both series were pretty divisive among fans.


I think Zelda would have been more popular among the "mainstream" and "casual" gamers, yet Pokemon is nearly winning this poll on GameFAQs because the huge drop in vote totals over the past few years has resulted in less "casual" users voting in our polls. So we have mostly long-time users voting in these things and they probably prefer Pokemon over Zelda.
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#33 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 4:44:02 PM | message detail
Canada:

Pokemon X/Y 29.82%
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 34.21%

United States:

Pokemon X/Y 30.92%
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 33.31%

Mexico:

Pokemon X/Y 32.1%
The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds 34.98%

I like how Pokemon has managed to keep this match almost even despite that huge disadvantage you see above. I blame Australia, New Zealand, and Asia for keeping Pokemon in this match. This means that Pokemon should win the SNV here.
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#34 | ProphetProfit | Posted 1/1/2014 4:58:19 PM | message detail
luster, of the top two games in today's poll which of them would perform better without a fire emblem game in the poll?
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#35 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 5:01:04 PM | message detail
Well Pokemon tends to be more independent of other Nintendo series, but Fire Emblem is quite more of a handheld series. Honestly you could make a case for either game.
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#36 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 5:03:50 PM | message detail
I think Pokemon does better without Fire Emblem in this poll, since they're both RPGs.
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#37 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 6:03:40 PM | message detail
3 hours left in this poll and Zelda has a lead of 49 right now. The only thing that can save Pokemon is a rally or the trends going in its favor. And since the SNV has more voters from Australia, New Zealand, and Asia compared to the ASV hours, that will help out Pokemon here. Pokemon is dominating Australia, New Zealand, and most of the major countries in Asia.
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#38 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 7:03:18 PM | message detail
Terrible hour for Pokemon as it has allowed Zelda to snowball out of control there. Lead went from 49 to 88 in just one hour.
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#39 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 7:07:51 PM | message detail
19 vote gain, followed by 22 vote cut.

Uh...

I don't think it's a rally, but I'll go check /v/ and /vp/, along with Reddit as well.
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#40 | spooky96 | Posted 1/1/2014 8:41:54 PM | message detail | (edited)
Further evidence that reddit is going to destroy our 2014 contest

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/945094-cory-in-the-house/68230601

Just look. 150 votes from GameFAQs and nearly 700 votes from reddit.
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#41 | -LusterSoldier- (Topic Creator) | Posted 1/1/2014 8:51:04 PM | message detail
Today's poll is a reason why the GotY polls should be turned into a mini-contest instead. We have a extremely close match and no one is discussing it during the final stretch of this poll. With a mini-contest, there would be more suspense and more people following the poll near the end.
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#42 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 1/1/2014 8:55:08 PM | message detail
That's not a bad idea but IIRC Bacon said he wasn't interesting in hosting contests without prizes - and GOTY is definitely not worth wasting our official yearly (if we're lucky!) contest on.
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#43 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 8:55:20 PM | message detail
Well to be fair we likely wouldn't get this match.
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#44 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/1/2014 8:57:16 PM | message detail
People aren't talking about the match because it hasn't budged in hours and has no reason to.
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#45 | ninkendo | Posted 1/1/2014 8:59:31 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Today's poll is a reason why the GotY polls should be turned into a mini-contest instead. We have a extremely close match and no one is discussing it during the final stretch of this poll. With a mini-contest, there would be more suspense and more people following the poll near the end.


you care a lot more than most of us
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#46 | KamikazePotato | Posted 1/1/2014 9:01:03 PM | message detail
Okay what is this nonsense

Most of these are multiplatform and there's no Rising
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#47 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:01:16 PM | message detail
lol PC is skipped.

Wonder if the multi-platform losers will reappear on the 360 poll
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#48 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:01:56 PM | message detail
Where's Xillia?
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#49 | charmander6000 | Posted 1/1/2014 9:02:11 PM | message detail
Impressive start for the Last of Us
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#50 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 1/1/2014 9:02:38 PM | message detail
After a 12 year hiatus, Devil May Cry finally makes it back into a GotY poll. Too bad it's DmC.
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