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Squirtle > Mudkip > Totodile > Piplup > Froakie > Oshawott --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ##LongLiveraytan |
pjbasis posted... Squirtle > Mudkip > Totodile > Piplup > Froakie > Oshawott Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. I'm curious to see just how well Mudkip does. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
pjbasis posted... Squirtle > Mudkip > Totodile > Piplup > Froakie > Oshawott That's probably what I would have predicted here. Mudkip will be interesting, just to see if he gets a rally from 4chan. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
I just checked out /vp/ and there is a topic about today's poll right now. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
I'll be bold and predict Piplup > Totodile. --- Congratulation to the 2013 CB9 Guru winner, raytan! But hey, at least I'm #4! Current Let's Play: Knights of Pen and Paper (see quote) |
Wow, Chikorita is terrible. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
GSC starters are terrible. That's probably the one thing RSE has over than gen. --- Congratulation to the 2013 CB9 Guru winner, raytan! But hey, at least I'm #4! Current Let's Play: Knights of Pen and Paper (see quote) |
Trend charts and poll updates for yesterday's poll: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdCYnJSeHhueW1uOVEtS3hGQTEwR1E&gid=3 I decided to track poll updates and do trend charts just to see what they would look like. Obviously I wasn't expecting any kind of strong trends here since there's going to be a large amount of SFF/LFF, plus this is a poll that is limited exclusively to just one fanbase. Charmander started off with a weak Power Hour, but it was gaining percentage throughout the night vote and morning vote. It dropped off during the ASV before going back up with the SNV. Cyndaquil had the exact opposite of Charmander as far as trends go. Torchic had the same trends as Charmander. Chimchar was terrible in the board vote and SNV and performed best during the early morning vote. Tepig was the most ASV oriented option here, along with having a good board vote. Tepig performed worst during the SNV. Fennekin had a very good board vote and Power Hour and also did well at night, but it sucked with the morning vote and SNV. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
I like how in yesterday's poll a starter that no-one has played with beat a starter from another game. That seems so ridiculous. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Well,
Bulbasaur has shown itself to be weaker than Squirtle and Charmander
based on this poll. The real surprise is Snivy beating Turtwig. Also,
Treecko is beating Chikorita, which gives me hope that Mudkip should
beat Totodile tomorrow. Chikorita performing badly is not that surprising, even taking into account nostalgic votes. Chikorita is the worst starters in terms of in-game use. Turtwig is ahead of Snivy now, but while Snivy has Smugleaf it too was a relative bad starter. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Congrats to raytan for winning the Guru Contest |
I like how in yesterday's poll a starter that no-one has played with beat a starter from another game. That seems so ridiculous. Must be the Fire/Fighting SFF. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Congrats to raytan for winning the Guru Contest |
If there's one thing that this poll shows, it's that the Smugleaf meme has already died down. --- I may be 17th on the Expert Challenge Leaderboard, But I'm still no match against raytan in the Guru |
Safer_777 posted... I like how in yesterday's poll a starter that no-one has played with beat a starter from another game. That seems so ridiculous. Hm? Based upon design and hype There is no problem with that |
And it would be nice if we get Chamander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur poll (makes the Snake/Link mathc not be a total waste) |
It
would be awesome to have a Chamander/Squirtle/Bulbasaur poll, but we
won't be able to run that poll before X/Y is released since tomorrow
will be the water Pokemon poll and the 2 polls after the "Got Pokemon
X/Y?" poll will not be related to Pokemon at all. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Those "Got X" polls are always on the launch days? if they are..then damn |
Yes, they're always on the launch day. Also, we just got a vote from someone in Iran and they voted for Chikorita. Whoever voted from Iran visited GameFAQs using "m.gamefaqs.com" since "www.gamefaqs.com" is blocked in Iran. Though it's still possible to visit GameFAQs by using "m.gamefaqs.com" instead. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
WhiteLens posted... If there's one thing that this poll shows, it's that the Smugleaf meme has already died down.Oh? I think Snivy is doing insanely well considering how Tepig did yesterday. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
A
Pokemon SFF poll isn't going to give us an accurate picture of
Bulbasaur's strength, nor does it tell us if he'd beat Charmander, who
is based on another Pokemon SFF poll. So let's not make assumptions. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Im really really sad that we won't have that poll Anyway I think Totodile will beat Mudkip The difference in power between GSC and RSE is too big,Mukip meme powers won't help Its going to be easy 1>2>3>4>5>6 but with a chance for Oshawott to get last |
I
think pjbasis' speculation about fire types is correct. Not sure if
that means Bulbasaur could beat Charmander, though. Interesting how the
Bulbasaur/Treecko proportion is pretty close to that of
Charmander/Cyndaquil. --- raytan stole my sig 'cause he's awesome at predicting GameFAQs contests! Grrrrrrr, I will get my revenge! |
Mudkip currently losing to Totodile, but a 4chan rally could easily put Mudkip ahead. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Mudkip gained almost 2% there, but it's not a rally since I didn't see anything on /v/ or /vp/. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Sounds
like Mudkip was recovering from a terrible board vote, which explains
why it gained about 3% during the 2 updates right after the freeze. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Nanis23 posted... Im really really sad that we won't have that poll Sup |
I only thought Mudkip would do better if it got more apathy/joke votes from non pokemon fans. Though I guess Squirtle will soak those up pretty well anyway. Thought Froakie could pull a Fennekin. Or maybe Oshawott would pull a Tepig and just be terrible. --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ##LongLiveraytan |
Doubt Bulbasaur would beat Squirtle either but glad to see him outdo his percentage. Bulbasaur > Cloud consider it CALLED --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ##LongLiveraytan |
Despite
this result, I still think Squirtle is stronger than Bulbasaur. Grass
doesn't have any real competition besides Bulbasaur. Squirtle has to deal with Totodile, Mudkip, and Piplup, which appear to be stronger than Chikorita, Treecko, and Turtwig. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Piplup>Totodile would make because Piplup is more iconic, but GSC wins on this site, so it was a long shot. Thought Mudkip would be above Totodile though. --- *1, *202,000,024 raytan7585 *2, *8,070,446 Kuroko no Basket, *3, *6,495,240 Naruto |
Squirtle is so strong. Might even be the strongest original starter! --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Pretty sure Charmander and Squirtle would wreck Bulbasaur, sadly If that match happened I'd predict: Charmander 39% Squirtle 37% Bulbasaur 24% --- GT: wgt07 Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
Nanis23 posted... Nanis23 posted...Im really really sad that we won't have that poll Good call! So who would be stronger, Charmander or Charizard? --- Congratulation to the 2013 CB9 Guru winner, raytan! But hey, at least I'm #4! Current Let's Play: Knights of Pen and Paper (see quote) |
Trend charts for yesterday's poll: https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AgBWiYjlMLwYdFdCYnJSeHhueW1uOVEtS3hGQTEwR1E&gid=3 Bulbasaur had very similar trends to Charmander - terrible board vote and Power Hour, below average night vote, above average morning vote, average ASV, and strong SNV. Chikorita did best during the board vote and Power Hour, but it had an average night vote and was slightly above during the early morning vote. The late morning vote was the worst time period. It had an average ASV and below average SNV. Treecko had a good board vote and Power Hour. The night vote was slightly above average. It had a terrible morning vote, although it manages to have a fairly average ASV. The SNV was easily the worst time period here. Turtwig had a below average board vote, but managed to recover from the board vote to finish strong at the end of the board vote. Average night vote, late morning vote, and ASV. It performed best during the early morning vote and worst during the SNV. Snivy had an average above board vote and night vote, but performed best during the Power Hour overall. It performed worst during the early morning vote, ASV, and SNV. The late morning vote was fairly average. Chespin is fairly balanced over the course of the day, except for an above average late morning vote and below average SNV. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Charizard
is stronger than Charmander and if a poll happened between the 3
original starters it would be like
this:Squirtle>Charmander>Bulbasaur. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Hard to know how seriously to take all of these polls but: -Bulbasaur probably isn't going to be significantly weaker than Squirtle. Maybe it wouldn't have beaten Cloud but it wouldn't have lost to Dante or anything. -Mudkip probably shouldn't be brought back. I think it'd still do better than Totodile against outside competition but by enough to care? Nah. -We don't need to see any other starters from non-RBY games in a contest. -The GotD x-stats, the favorite generation poll, and all three starter polls all support RSE > DPP. Looking hard to deny at this point. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
Based on the 3 starter polls, here is how I would rank each generation's starters in terms of contest strength: Charmander > Squirtle > Bulbasaur Cyndaquil > Totodile > Chikorita Mudkip > Treecko > Torchic Piplup > Turtwig > Chimchar Snivy > Oshawott > Tepig Froakie > Fennekin > Chespin I don't think anyone would disagree with Gen 1's ranking. Although Treecko did better against Bulbasaur than Mudkip did against Squirtle, you'd have to consider that Bulbasaur is also weaker than Squirtle to begin with. Also, Mudkip's poll has tougher competition to deal with compared to Treecko's poll. Piplup over Turtwig was based off the same reasoning that I had Mudkip over Treecko, even though Piplup did almost 3% worse than Turtwig. Gen 5 and 6 starters were based solely on their raw percentages in the 3 starter polls. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
Luster
you're forgetting the people who think it's a Character BATTLE, so
Charmander > Bulbasaur > Squirtle > Charmander See: Pikachu beating Squirtle for this exact same reason, duh. --- ~War~ |
An
SFF fest isn't enough for me to put the kibosh on Mudkip from a contest
strength standpoint. Mudkip isn't interesting for its base strength,
which would only be slightly above 'random Pokemon midcard', but the
combination of that with the potential for large concerted rallies in a
contest with ever-dwindling vote totals. I suppose you could make the argument that it doesn't seem to be catching much of that today, but a non-contest poll of Water starters is hardly something conducive to rallying compared to something 'silly' like Mudkip > Mario. Note that we don't ever need to see that result from a perspective of 'can we not make the contests completely awful', but from a purely analytical perspective Mudkip still has that same danger level. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Forget Mudkip. Let's get Bidoof back in. Bidoof vs. Vincent who ya got? --- ~War~ |
Woohoo, won $25! Finally won a prize from a contest after 11 years! I officially can't hate this contest. --- I may be 17th on the Expert Challenge Leaderboard, But I'm still no match against raytan in the Guru |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Forget Mudkip. At this time of the year? with XY release in less than 24 hours? Bidoof,easily |
Grats on the cash! --- Congratulation to the 2013 CB9 Guru winner, raytan! But hey, at least I'm #4! Current Let's Play: Knights of Pen and Paper (see quote) |
For
Pokemon RSE and DPP, we didn't have a "Got Game?" poll on the day of
the US release, so we have to use these 2 polls to get an idea of what
kind of ownership we got on the launch day. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/1198 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/2727 Based on those polls, RSE would have been expected to have 26.19% ownership on the launch day. DPP performed slightly better, with an expected ownership rate of 28.50% on the launch day. For Pokemon Black/White and Black/White 2, we have these 2 polls: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4268 http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/4865 BW had 25.93% ownership on the launch day while BW2 had 13.87% ownership. Obviously BW2 wasn't going to get the same kind of ownership that BW had since it was a sequel to a mainline game. I do expect X/Y to have a better ownership rate than BW2 got on the launch day. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as raytan7585, Guru Champ! |
will Froakie get 3%? stay tuned! |
Mudkip
getting so much of its strength from rallying is part of why I don't
think it's going to be an interesting entrant at this point. Charizard
and Pikachu suddenly got huge boosts when they were threatened near the
end of their Round 3 matches (though Mega Man had major rallying of his
own to fight back with) and 4chan went all out for Squirtle. Every pokemon with decent strength has effectively become Mudkip, so if it's a choice between which Mudkip to nominate, why choose the one with the only thing going for it being that it's Mudkip? ...Not that I'm too interested in nominating pokemon anymore. Squirtle being elite-level in particular broke me. Squirtle => Charizard shouldn't be the case anymore than Yuffie => Tifa. Kudos to anyone who called the fanbase being that dronish. Given that, it's hard to be happy about even the pokemon I like winning. Mega Man doing almost as well as Snake against if anything a stronger Pokemon duo sealed the deal on their terrible dronishness. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
Mega Mewtwo Y vs Mega Charizard X vs Mega Blastroise who ya got |
Mega
Man's tangling with Pokemon was... very interesting to say the least.
Taken at face value and setting Charizard equal to the rest of the
Pokes, Zero-leeched Mega Man is literally stronger than Cloud.
And then the way he dismantled the Mewtwo/Pikachu duo in the bonus match
paired with the absolutely atrocious votals... I got the distinct
impression that Mega Man was asserting the Hierarchy (as in, the Nintendo hierarchy) against Pokemon this year. Which seems crazy considering Pokemon's resistance to SFF - but they're not immune to getting the short stick. Zelda more or less proved that. It also feels like Mega Man should have done better against Samus but by the same token I also get the impression that Samus turned the Hierarchy tables on MM once they went head to head. After all, she SFFed Zelda. ...more than anything Samus's raw power and growth in being able to assert SFF over Nintendo and Ninty entities is really making me wonder what the percentages in Mario/Samus would be today in a 1v1. Edit: Eh, on second thought I think I'm not giving Samus enough credit a la 2006; her raw percentage on Mega Man wasn't exactly inspiring to begin with and he was way far behind prior to this year. If she did score any SFF on the Blue Bomber I doubt it did little more than counteract his mild bandwagon. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... Mega Man's tangling with Pokemon was... very interesting to say the least. Taken at face value and setting Charizard equal to the rest of the Pokes, Zero-leeched Mega Man is literally stronger than Cloud. And then the way he dismantled the Mewtwo/Pikachu duo in the bonus match paired with the absolutely atrocious votals... I got the distinct impression that Mega Man was asserting the Hierarchy (as in, the Nintendo hierarchy) against Pokemon this year. omg you are such a nerd |
1337gamerpr0 posted... will Froakie get 3%? and he does! (barely) |
I
thought more people would play Pokemon. Now around 44% say they don't
play. However around 32% said they have played at least 1 Pokemon game
so that means that the play rate of the Pokemon games is around 88%. I
guess it must be the highest of the famous series around here? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
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