Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1184

#1 | swirIdude | Posted 10/2/2013 12:50:23 PM | message detail
Generic Species Contest 2014. Make it happen, Allen!

~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~
www.gamefaqscontests.com

~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~
http://board8.wikia.com/

~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html

~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~
http://www.thengamer.com/
http://thengamer.com/xstats

~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame

~*Character Contest Histories*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories

~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~
A = Strongest Character
B = Character Weaker than A
C = Character Weaker than B
To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA
To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB
To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA

~*All the Match Pics*~
http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php

~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0

~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends

~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~
http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages

~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/2/2013 2:48:50 PM | message detail
Congrats to our 2014 Generic Species Contest winners, ponies!
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#3 | ffmasterjose | Posted 10/3/2013 4:24:44 PM | message detail
Have Allen or Devin posted pictures of themselves in costume yet?
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#4 | Safer_777 | Posted 10/4/2013 6:04:04 AM | message detail
Generic species contest? What about generic enemies? Like for example town guard or bandit?
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#5 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 10/5/2013 8:18:23 PM | message detail
Bump
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#6 | HaRRicH | Posted 10/7/2013 3:32:38 PM | message detail
Not even a Halo Kinect-game could have done so much damage to Master Chief.
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#7 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/7/2013 5:11:11 PM | message detail
Polls for the next several days:


10/8/2013 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
10/9/2013 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
10/10/2013 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
10/11/2013 - I don't know. Probably an original poll idea.
10/12/2013 - I don't know. It's probably going to be "Got Pokemon X/Y?", unless Bacon decides to run a poll related to the Nintendo 2DS (since it releases on that day too).
10/13/2013 - Have you ever played in a video game tournament or competition?
10/14/2013 - When someone flips a coin, which side do you pick?
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#8 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/7/2013 8:00:34 PM | message detail
Aww yeah, a favorite Pokemon generation poll.
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#9 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/7/2013 8:06:00 PM | message detail
I'm a bit surprised the RSE generation is actually beating out the DPP generation since it was widely believed that RSE was weaker than DPP, based on the GOTD contest.
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#10 | pjbasis | Posted 10/7/2013 8:17:55 PM | message detail
Well they got a huge assist from Fire Red and Leaf Green
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#11 | kirbyparufo | Posted 10/7/2013 8:19:02 PM | message detail
NostalgiaFAQs

GSC was the best generation though, hands down. Even if the battling mechanics were bad compared to the modern ones. >_>
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#12 | Safer_777 | Posted 10/8/2013 1:36:50 AM | message detail
Another Pokemon poll? Also I thought the 3rd generation should be the worse. And I still can't believe that the newer the game is, the worse it does.
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#13 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 2:53:56 AM | message detail
There's going to be a lot of Pokemon polls around this time of the year because Pokemon X/Y comes out in less than a week.
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#14 | Safer_777 | Posted 10/8/2013 3:33:18 AM | message detail
So who made the bracket placement? It was only SBAllen? And why with 243 characters we still had some matches in the first round with the 2 characters of the same series?
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#15 | Haste_2 | Posted 10/8/2013 10:04:53 AM | message detail
DPP is not in last! Victory!
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#16 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 10/8/2013 1:20:57 PM | message detail
Yeah, I'd go with RSE => DPP. FRLG and HGSS might be messing with these results a bit and BW is probably LFFing DPP a good amount, but it's difficult to see DPP turning this around.

RSE was actually ahead of DPP in the Game of the Decade x-stats. (Also why doesn't ngamer's site have Game of the Decade x-stats up?) And DPP > RSE by a noticable amount would have implied a close match between RSE and Metroid Fusion - something that never really sounded quite right.

Golden Sun or RSE for strongest GBA game? OR MINISH CAP?

Oh, and GSC is doing slightly better against RBY than it did here:
http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3486
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#17 | swirIdude (Topic Creator) | Posted 10/8/2013 1:51:26 PM | message detail
Damn all you voters who didn't play past Gen 1, BW is the best gen!
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#18 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 10/8/2013 3:28:40 PM | message detail
swirIdude posted...
Damn all you voters who didn't play past Gen 1, BW is the best gen!


I never cared much for Gen 1, and missed out on Gen 2.
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#19 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 8:00:37 PM | message detail
Charmander 100% 1
Cyndaquil 0% 0
Torchic 0% 0
Chimchar 0% 0
Tepig 0% 0
Fennekin 0% 0
TOTAL VOTES 1

First vote for Charmander.
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#20 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 8:05:49 PM | message detail
Charmander 60.36% 303
Cyndaquil 20.52% 103
Torchic 9.56% 48
Chimchar 3.98% 20
Tepig 1.99% 10
Fennekin 3.59% 18
TOTAL VOTES 502

And the freeze has just arrived.
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#21 | Karma Hunter | Posted 10/8/2013 8:17:36 PM | message detail
are you f***ing kidding me PokeFAQs
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#22 | WhiteLens | Posted 10/8/2013 8:22:52 PM | message detail
I wish SBAllen started with Grass so we get the whole Grass -> Fire -> Water order that the starters always go.
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#23 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 8:24:00 PM | message detail
I have a feeling that tomorrow will be Water and then Grass on Friday.
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#24 | HaRRicH | Posted 10/8/2013 9:24:17 PM | message detail
Squirtle's the obvious winner for the Water-poll...can anything compete with Bulbasaur in the Grass-poll?
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#25 | Sorozone | Posted 10/8/2013 9:26:11 PM | message detail
I'm very interested in what Squirtle will pull in.
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#26 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/8/2013 9:26:11 PM | message detail
Water poll should be interesting since it will have the Mudkipz.
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#27 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 9:27:25 PM | message detail
Oh god, 4chan might attempt to rally for Mudkip.
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#28 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 10/8/2013 9:31:34 PM | message detail
More evidence supporting RSE > DPP. Unless Turtwig or Piplup pull an upset, we should probably assume that to be the case from here on.

Speaking of which. Other than Gen 4/5/6 starters ending up in various orders at the bottom of each poll, is anyone expecting a newer starter to beat an older one?

I certainly would have figured Mudkip would beat Totodile but Torchic getting pasted this badly is giving me doubts.
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#29 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/8/2013 9:40:45 PM | message detail
There's a topic on /vp/ for yesterday's poll, so I wouldn't be surprised if a topic shows up on /vp/ for today's poll and the next 2 polls.
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#30 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/9/2013 12:55:43 AM | message detail
In yesterday's poll, the RBY generation got exactly 57% on the GSC generation. In this match, RBY got 58.12% on GSC:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3486

So yesterday's poll was very similar to RBY/GSC in the 2009 Games Contest.
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#31 | Safer_777 | Posted 10/9/2013 2:54:36 AM | message detail
I get it. There is nostalgia. BUT this is getting ridiculous. Anything old rules. Anything new blows. Amazing.
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#32 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2013 2:58:32 AM | message detail
Considering the age of our userbase, it makes sense that more people have played the older games than the newer ones, and thus would prefer the older Pokemon.
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#33 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/9/2013 3:10:16 AM | message detail
Bulbasaur is assumed to be weaker than both Squirtle and Charmander. If Bulbasaur goes out and gets around 60% in the Grass starter poll, then it's safe to say that there is nostalgia among our userbase.
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#34 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 10/9/2013 3:30:33 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Bulbasaur is assumed to be weaker than both Squirtle and Charmander. If Bulbasaur goes out and gets around 60% in the Grass starter poll, then it's safe to say that there is nostalgia among our userbase.


Grass easily has the least popular starters to begin with though. Bulbasaur is likely to dominate for that reason.
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#35 | jacko_vdz | Posted 10/9/2013 4:17:48 AM | message detail
First gen the best gen.
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#36 | Zylothewolf | Posted 10/9/2013 5:28:00 AM | message detail
Only kids play Pokemon so this result makes sense. Most users are over 20 here so obviously the 1st gen will dominate.
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#37 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 10/9/2013 9:04:50 AM | message detail
I doubt Bulbasaur actually is significantly weaker than Squirtle. Charizard/Squirtle/Pikachu all looked very close in strength. Bulbasaur is another starter, undoubtedly a major RBY Pokemon, and pokemon fans have proven themselves to be drones.
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#38 | HaRRicH | Posted 10/9/2013 9:47:16 AM | message detail
While Pokemon's on the mind...who's taking anything besides RBY as our #2 game? We've just seen Mewtwo > Sephiroth + Vincent and Squirtle > Cloud in three-ways, plus Trainers > Cloud/Sephiroth in the Rivalry Rumble. We also never got a pure read on RBY from 2009; all we know is that it beat LoZ:MM twice and later took LoZ:OoT and SSBM for FFX to beat it. FF7 is still a beast, but this isn't the Clinkeroth-era anymore.

LoZ:LttP and SM64 may be contenders too, but they don't seem to have risen like Pokemon in recent years...and after this last contest, it's REALLY hard to bet against RBY.
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#39 | Denzokuken | Posted 10/9/2013 9:50:29 AM | message detail
FFVII is way stronger than Cloud and Seph though. Sometimes you have to put the Pokemon hype aside and ask yourself, would more people really vote for RBY over FFVII?
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#40 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 10/9/2013 10:08:21 AM | message detail
Probably, yeah. Pokerallies would likely make up for any remaining strength difference. Not saying it's guaranteed to happen, but you're stuck in 2009 if you think it couldn't happen.

And Pokemon RBY > Any individual Pokemon by more than FFVII > Cloud.
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#41 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 10/9/2013 10:10:36 AM | message detail
Denzokuken posted...
FFVII is way stronger than Cloud and Seph though. Sometimes you have to put the Pokemon hype aside and ask yourself, would more people really vote for RBY over FFVII?


Final Fantasy VII is weaker than it has ever been, and Red/Blue/Yellow is far stronger than ever, which is very, very bad for FFVII given that FFVII/RBY looked debatable (but leaning RBY) 3 years ago.
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#42 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2013 10:14:34 AM | message detail
I'd go with OoT being #2 myself.

I think we all know what #1 is now.
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#43 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 10/9/2013 10:18:40 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
I'd go with OoT being #2 myself.

I think we all know what #1 is now.


Well I mean yeah if reddit rallying is allowed next contest then discussing strength is completely pointless.
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#44 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 10/9/2013 10:26:50 AM | message detail
As opposed to banning reddit rallying with what magic?

Besides, it's pretty obvious the LoL subreddit is the only one popular and dedicated enough to actually vote for a game. Maybe the Pokemon games would get some momentum in a close match.
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#45 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 10/9/2013 10:29:26 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
As opposed to banning reddit rallying with what magic?


Given that Bacon can tell if a voter came straight from reddit, it should actually be pretty easy!
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#46 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 10/9/2013 10:33:33 AM | message detail
And of course, it would have to be banning reddit as a whole because merely banning the LoL subreddit would be an unfair advantage for other entrants.
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#47 | XIII_rocks | Posted 10/9/2013 11:38:09 AM | message detail
Or just ban LoL and LoL entrants. Not difficult
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#48 | Karma Hunter | Posted 10/9/2013 12:15:48 PM | message detail
If reddit rallying were somehow universally disallowed RBY would be at a phenomenal disadvantage. Almost every big Pokemon win this year wouldn't have happened or been much closer if not for reddit rallying; the site is a major source of its intrinsic strength.
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#49 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 10/9/2013 8:36:24 PM | message detail
Well, Bulbasaur has shown itself to be weaker than Squirtle and Charmander based on this poll. The real surprise is Snivy beating Turtwig. Also, Treecko is beating Chikorita, which gives me hope that Mudkip should beat Totodile tomorrow.
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#50 | pjbasis | Posted 10/9/2013 11:12:16 PM | message detail
It's just Treecko and Snivy being legit man.

You see the rest of the fire starters besides Charmander? Easily the worst type for starters on average.
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