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The
problem with the a generic species (or generic enemies) contest is that
Nintendo and Square would dominate way more than normal. But maybe
I'm wrong. I wouldn't mind somebody creating a bracket for this! Mog doesn't have the same name problem, nor the same game association, as Boko. Plus, FF7's Moogles are called Mogs. Mog probably couldn't beat "Chocobo", though. --- raytan stole my sig 'cause he's awesome at predicting GameFAQs contests! Grrrrrrr, I will get my revenge! |
Slimes could win a match. Metroids could potentially beat anything aside from Pokemon. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
Haste_2 posted... The problem with the a generic species (or generic enemies) contest is that Nintendo and Square would dominate way more than normal. But maybe I'm wrong. I wouldn't mind somebody creating a bracket for this! I'm working on a bracket, but given my Nintendo bias I'm probably gonna make a crappy one. Suggestions welcome. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Yoshi Goomba Koopa-Troopa Goron Zora Octorok Dodongo Metroid Waddle Dee Kremling Chocobo Moogle Imp Slime Mettaur Las Plagas Big Daddy Prinny Brigand Desian --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
Is it by order of strength? Because I think Mettaur-Slime can be a great match and I actually think Mettaur gets the upper hand |
No, I was just offering suggestions for that guy's bracket. I think I'd go with Slime there since Mettaur would probably have pretty low name recognition and not a lot of people caring about it. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
I thought Mettaurs were called Metools? --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
I've
seen a lot of names which is the biggest problem they'd have in a
contest. Too many voters would look at 'Mettaur' and be like "what".
Slime would crush it. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
If it has too many names they may split nominations and not even get in! --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
What would we nominate from the Castlevania series? Those terrible Medusa Head things? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
If CBIX noms are an indicator, we could have several Fire Emblem classes in this field too. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
It's random enemies, right? Not just random species? 1) Goomba 2) Koopa-Troopa 3) Metroid I don't see Octoroks, Metools, or anything by Square really competing with those three. Even if it's random species, I don't trust Moogle/Chocobo much...plus they would suddenly be behind Yoshi and most Pokemon that would be nominated. It'd be fun to see this type of contest (if for no other reason than to get Headcrab into a contest), but Nintendo would wreck it so hard -- heck, just the Mario-series probably would. --- Victim #128 of the LEAGUE OF RAYTAN http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/3492/eponaharr.jpg |
Metroid games aren't strong, I'm not sure why anyone would expect metroids themselves to be top three material. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
There would have to be a series cap to prevent Pokemon from dominating the field. You can't even take out the Pokemon if you make it a generic enemies contest, because you fight them in the wild. So a generic enemies restriction would really only notably ban...Yoshi? --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Karma Hunter posted... Metroid games aren't strong, I'm not sure why anyone would expect metroids themselves to be top three material. If you believe the rivalry theme boosted/weakened certain rivalries, a Generic Species theme could boost/weaken others. And Metroids are very distinct looking and well-known to an old-school fanbase, which GameFAQs is. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Given
all the weaknesses of Metroid games and Ridley's pathetic performances
about the only thing I'd really credit it with is the fact that it
shares the name of its game. Even then I'd be reasonably surprised if
something like a Moblin didn't assert the hierarchy and beat it. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
In
a really weak field (which this is), it's probably possible to get
pretty far just by having the same name as the game you came from, if
that game has any strength at all. Just ask Diablo! swirIdude posted... If CBIX noms are an indicator, we could have several Fire Emblem classes in this field too. Hence my Brigand suggestion! But I don't think any of the other generic enemies have quite endeared themselves to players like the early-game axe-wielding village-destroyers. Pre-Awakening anyways. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
No
way a Moblin beats Metroid, you have to give the titular character (and
one of the coolest looking enemies around) more credit than that. Now an Octorok, on the other hand...that's a tougher call. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Where's Slime Nah bro Metroids are top tier though. They're integral to the series and their first appearance in every game is hyped --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ##LongLiveraytan |
I've
made a reflexive habit of siding with anything remotely Zelda related
in anything remotely Nintendo related and Charizard notwithstanding it's
worked out remarkably well. And even in that case he needed a bunch of rallying to barely win and gets his ass whipped in a fair 1v1 24 hour match. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
But do you realize what you just said? A Moblin. You wouldn't take Groose over Ridley would you? Hell, over Kraid? --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
I could see Groose beating Kraid but that SSBM stage might be enough for the latter. Moblins aren't nearly on the same level as Groose, though. Groose's biggest problem was Skyward Sword's abysmal playrate. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Moblins
don't have name value though. Metroid is one of the few non-Mario
examples of an enemy that most gamers instantly know just from the name.
That's going to be worth a lot, and I also don't believe Zelda fans
will simply be vote slaves to whatever species come from their games. With that said, Goron/Octorok vs Metroid is where I'd start considering the SFF implications. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Groose would not beat Kraid. Groose would not threaten Kraid. Groose got creamed by Lu Bu. --- ~War~ |
i cant believer we overlooked the most important generic enemy of all New Age Retro Hippie! --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
This isn't even my 'oh that war' loving Metroid things it's Kraid who cares about Kraid I sure don't. But Groose cannot even pursue Lu Bu for all we laugh at non-Samus Metroid their King Awful performances are doing 6% and 9% better on Diablo and Lavos respectively. than Groose did on Yoshimitsu. http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/3691 YOSHIMITSU! HE LOST TO DAN! --- ~War~ |
Why do Desians always brew terrible coffee? INFERIOR BEANS --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] [NO raytan NO PEACE] |
I simply think Kraid suffers from the same problem Groose does, namely "who the hell is Groose/Kraid". And in a Who The Hell Is match I'd take the Zelda entity over the Metroid. That being said as I reflected on earlier the SSBM stage appearance for Kraid is probably sufficient to keep him from going down to Groose. Which is really sad all things considering. But I'd certainly take Groose over Phantoon! --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Kraid is probably pretty decently well-known! He's been around forever, which is what matters most on OldFAQs. ...Groose/Phantoon is a match we never, ever, EVER need to see and while I can deal with implying Kraid could make a contest I draw the line at Phantoon. We should nominate the baby metroid. --- ~War~ |
GROOSE is amazing it's a shame this isn't recognized! --- banana |
Didn't Mother Brain do respectably in the villains contest --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png ##LongLiveraytan |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Kraid is probably pretty decently well-known! He's been around forever, which is what matters most on OldFAQs. You are now manually realizing Samus has canonically fought Kraid and Phantoon the exact same number of times. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
She
did respectably by getting like 45% on Lavos, who got 45% on Liquid
Snake, who has Liquid Snake'd it up since so Mother Brain could be
anywhere from 40% on Solid Snake to 8% on Yuna and it would not surprise
me. --- ~War~ |
AxemRedRanger posted... In a really weak field (which this is), it's probably possible to get pretty far just by having the same name as the game you came from, if that game has any strength at all. Just ask Diablo! I don't think any FE related enemy class would have much strength... and the only other thing I can think of are soldiers which were weak enemy only fodder in quite a few games. --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Karma Hunter posted... FranzyvonKarma posted...Kraid is probably pretty decently well-known! He's been around forever, which is what matters most on OldFAQs. You are now manually realizing THAT'S NOT A JUDGE, THAT'S RIDLEY, THE BOSS FROM METROID! --- ~War~ |
I'd
love to see what Goomba could do in this field. Also the crying from
the fans of its victims who shout "It's just a dumb mushroom!" --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
In seriousness if you set Frog 2k5 = Liquid Snake 2k5, Samus is expected to score about 77% on Mother Brain pre-SFF. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Yes, but trying to draw anything reliable from Frog or Liquid Snake is a terrible idea. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Goomba is good enough to be in the regular field, we don't have to make a special contest for him. (6) Frog (11) Goomba --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Karma Hunter posted... Goomba is good enough to be in the regular field, we don't have to make a special contest for him. ...This shouldn't take more than 5 seconds to pick Frog. ...And yet it is taking much longer.... --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Frog's
only outlier match was Snake/Frog, and that was mainly the match
picture. Every other one of his matches has been remarkably consistent,
humorously. Most of the surprise factor is people just being continually
surprised that he's not very strong and having to desperately try to
save him every time he chokes. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
But
to your other point, we do need this contest for Goomba to get in.
Anyone who couldn't make the field of 243 this year needs a gimmick
contest of some sort. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Gimmick Contest for Liquid Snake confirmed. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
MGS spoilers How many clones would have to be introduced in MGS before Liquid Snake and his brothers could be a generic species? --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
They already are. The Genome Soldiers have the same genes as the Snakes. --- Welcome to the League of Stickies. |
Liquid Snake is a go for this one then! --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
I've
whipped up a first draft of a bracket based on my thoughts and the
suggestions posted so far. It's too Nintendo tilted, but I think that's
just the nature of this theme. North Pikachu Headcrab Koopa Troopa Moblin Moogle Boo Metroid ReDead East Charizard Kremling Jigglypuff Goron Goomba Metool Chocobo Waddle Dee South Yoshi Heartless Gerudo Claptrap Slime Prinny Bulbasaur Brigand West Squirtle New Age Retro Hippie Shy Guy Klap Trap Octorok Cactuar Toad Big Daddy Predictions? --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Where a re Zoras --- banana |
I
capped each series so I wouldn't flood it too much with one series.
They'd definitely be included if I expanded the bracket size. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
Looks like the bracket killed all discussion. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima raytan: Champ without picking the champ |
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