Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1182

#401 | redrocket | Posted 9/16/2013 8:16:31 PM | message detail
TheEnigmaBlade posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I'm still wondering why he's wanting to smear Allen so much though. Someone should definitively confirm this guy's identity. Someone with reputation preferably.

Here's proof: http://i.imgur.com/aF2khx5.png

If you still think I can easily modify it (which I can with firebug), you're free to send me a PM on reddit as multiple people have already done.

My intention is also not to "smear" anyone, although I am annoyed, but rather to actually tell people the truth about what happened instead of lying to the community. It's especially annoying when we were asked to pretend the removal was a misunderstanding -- clearing everyone but us of the blame -- and then going and taking credit for fixing it and eventually blaming us for screwing everything up.


Shots fired.
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#402 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 9/16/2013 8:19:53 PM | message detail
Why is link so strong on this site? Don't get me wrong, I like link. Link to the past is one of my favorite games of all time. But I've not loved any since then. Big metal gear solid fan since the first ps1 game. Solid always gets my vote. I think any winner of the contest should be retired. Not for long cause that's not fair to them. But for for prob two years. Give other characters a chance to win. However I do support the rallies. Makes things interesting. Lol. Something else to consider when making a bracket. I lost bad but I still loved this contest. Let's do it again. I'll do better next time. Lol
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#403 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 8:20:03 PM | message detail
Color me suspicious.
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#404 | Sorozone | Posted 9/16/2013 8:21:35 PM | message detail
Link is strong...just because he is. Zelda games are also just simply strong here.

Someone probably has a better reason than me.
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#405 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/16/2013 8:21:43 PM | message detail
Draven is currently celebrating his victory at an exclusive "legends" vip club. rumor has it tommorrow he will wake up with a bar tab of 80k and some crabs.
#406 | FFDragon | Posted 9/16/2013 8:22:31 PM | message detail
Darkemaste posted...
Any of you guys aware of this btw?

TheEnigmaBlade posted...
I wasn't originally going to do this since we keep mod messages private, but this will hopefully clear up all confusion on the conflicting statements:

http://i.imgur.com/Hy2q9yV.png

I'm done with GameFAQs now.

I have to admit this is......rather interesting.


this is the contest that keeps on giving
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#407 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 8:23:55 PM | message detail
He's the protagonist of the site's most popular series. In that sense, 46-47% of people voting Solid Snake over Link is kind of miraculous. Metal Gear is popular enough but runs far behind the Zeldas and Marios and Final Fantasies of the world.
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#408 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/16/2013 8:24:34 PM | message detail
Link with exactly 30k votes
what a pro
#409 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 8:25:12 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Link with exactly 30k votes
what a pro


while somehow not even cracking 45% on that update
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#410 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/16/2013 8:26:00 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Link with exactly 30k votes
what a pro


while somehow not even cracking 45% on that update


he's giving Snake a breath of air while reaching a milestone
#411 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 8:35:55 PM | message detail
Only five updates left, Snake can probably avoid getting doubled five times in a row to secure his milestone

probably
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#412 | LOLContests | Posted 9/16/2013 8:36:18 PM | message detail
After all the crazy **** that went down over the past couple weeks, I'm obviously extremely doubtful over the screenshot of the conversation. How many times has something seemed really sketchy only to have a logical explanation? The most interesting thing, to me at least, is the section of text that is blocked out. IF, I repeat, IF this conversation is true, I wonder if Allen was facing legal issues that caused him to reverse course, and that's what's being bleeped out.

It does seem to me though that the blocked out name of the "admin" has more characters than SBAllen's screen name from the AMA chat. The names on Reddit do have that border around them though, so...hmm.
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#413 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/16/2013 8:38:50 PM | message detail | (edited)
That picture is the fakest thing I've seen this week. I mean the way Allen talks to the mod seems designed to make him look like a moron.
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#414 | LOLContests | Posted 9/16/2013 8:43:08 PM | message detail
Also the logic presented in that topic does not match up exactly with the logic presented in the mods' post on Reddit explaining why the topics were banned.
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#415 | Darkemaste | Posted 9/16/2013 8:43:39 PM | message detail
LinkFTMFW posted...
Draven is currently celebrating his victory at an exclusive "legends" vip club. rumor has it tommorrow he will wake up with a bar tab of 80k and some crabs.

I apologize in advance is this is against the TOU, but this post reminded me of something I haven't seen in ages.

http://imgur.com/v3SRiPu
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#416 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/16/2013 8:44:04 PM | message detail
Again, if this is going to come down to the word of Allen vs. the word the LoL Subreddit mods, I know who I am believing here.
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#417 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 8:46:58 PM | message detail
Saddest factoid about this contest, now that Link vs. Snake is nearly over:
If the Reddit rally for Draven never happened, Snake would have won his first contest.
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#418 | redrocket | Posted 9/16/2013 8:47:26 PM | message detail
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/vc3jz/i_am_the_administrator_of_gamefaqscom_ama/

Allen's AMA, for comparison.
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#419 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/16/2013 8:54:04 PM | message detail
redrocket posted...
http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/vc3jz/i_am_the_administrator_of_gamefaqscom_ama/

Allen's AMA, for comparison.


Apparently it is law for Allen to start off with Howdy All on reddit.
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#420 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 8:56:57 PM | message detail
Congratulations to Solid Snake for putting up the 4th best 1v1 performance on Link ever.
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#421 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:00:36 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted

Yes, and I'm taking the day off work/school to play it 6% 3
Yes, and I don't have work or school to interrupt my playtime 2% 1
Yes, but I have to schedule my play time around work or school 4% 2
Not yet, but I'll pick it up soon enough 30% 15
No, I've got no plans to buy it, it's just not my kind of game 58% 29
TOTAL VOTES
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#422 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/16/2013 9:01:39 PM | message detail
Whoa, which option am I rooting for?!
#423 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:01:52 PM | message detail
How long do we typically have to wait before Allen checks out the leaderboard entries and sorts out the prize winners?
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#424 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:01:56 PM | message detail
So weird to see such low votals on the poll.
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#425 | ZFS | Posted 9/16/2013 9:02:15 PM | message detail
Link almost got to 53.5% pretty good!
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#426 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:02:58 PM | message detail
Oh right! We're back to "Luster checks trends for regular polls" - THE TOPIC.
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#427 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/16/2013 9:03:31 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Apparently it is law for Allen to start off with Howdy All on reddit.


Yeah, that's kind of weird. Then again, if it's fake it means the faker actually went out of his way to look at SBAllen's other reddit posts to make his fake post. That' would be pretty sad
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#428 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:03:49 PM | message detail
Very high vote totals so far. I guess that's what happens when this poll happens right after the last contest match of the season. You end up having people checking out the home page, expecting another match or something.
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#429 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:04:41 PM | message detail
k so we're assuming Enigma is lying, I figured
btw could someone tally votals by country for each PoTD starting now?
#430 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:06:49 PM | message detail
Why do you want someone to tally vote totals for each country on every PotD?


Also, we finished the board vote with 846 votes, which is definitely higher than some of our normal 5 minute freezes during the contest. It's also great to get back to having normal 5 minute freezes again. The new poll results pages were a little glitchy and would cause random freezes at any point in time during the first 5 minutes.
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#431 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:07:07 PM | message detail
The last 33 hours have left me feeling pretty down. Another contest ended, this one the worst contest ever (villains doesn't count), and no telling when Crono will be able to next win a 1v1 match. And Draven is probably gone forever. This is the feeling you people would have if you succeeded in getting Link retired.
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#432 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:07:45 PM | message detail
creativename's site hasn't updated for the final 1-minute update of the match yet.
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#433 | GloriousSweater (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/16/2013 9:08:54 PM | message detail
Terrible performance from Link. Disappointing.

Also, it seems that SBAllen lied to us or something?
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#434 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/16/2013 9:09:25 PM | message detail
Well guys it was fun mostly. It had its bad parts but for the most part I did enjoy this contest, and posting in here specifically. Tidus/Missingno was great and Mega Man/Charizard is what we should LIVE FOR. Link/Draven is unlike anything we've ever seen and of course, HAYTERFAQs.

Probably won't see me in here unless we get another contest. Thanks for putting up with me for the past few months. Cheers.
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#435 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/16/2013 9:10:45 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
The last 33 hours have left me feeling pretty down. Another contest ended, this one the worst contest ever (villains doesn't count), and no telling when Crono will be able to next win a 1v1 match. And Draven is probably gone forever. This is the feeling you people would have if you succeeded in getting Link retired.


Even worse than 2004?
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#436 | hockeydude15 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:10:54 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
Terrible performance from Link. Disappointing.

Also, it seems that SBAllen lied to us or something?


Nah it's just a Reddit mod deciding to troll us and having it not work on anyone who has common sense.
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#437 | GloriousSweater (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/16/2013 9:12:01 PM | message detail
2004 had Jill/Hayabusa/CATSglitch and three incredible Frog matches. It also had uncertainty around the finals and, IIRC, B8 was split down the middle between Link and Cloud. So yeah 2004 was better than this.
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#438 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/16/2013 9:13:04 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
The last 33 hours have left me feeling pretty down. Another contest ended, this one the worst contest ever (villains doesn't count), and no telling when Crono will be able to next win a 1v1 match. And Draven is probably gone forever. This is the feeling you people would have if you succeeded in getting Link retired.


Just remember, this has only been the worst contest ever because Rivalry Rumble has been intentionally wiped from our collective memory.

Then why do I still remember it? Oh god, if only I could forget!
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#439 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:14:49 PM | message detail | (edited)
So it was Allen all along. Yikes. This drama. If I were him i would not address this at all.

My opinion, :
So he tried to save the contest during Draven vs Mewtwo vs Seph and then reversed the decision the same day. This later led to a huge clusterf**** during the final where accusations were flying all over the place and essentially led to r/LoL declaring war on this place.

The best way to handle this situation from the start was to allow a reddit rally, but only 1 reddit rally. let them have their one thread. Instruct mods to delete other threads that come up. If the one thread falls off the front page, tough luck. Similarly, stricter action should have happened here and people should have been moderated for organizing downvoting rallies and creating fake topics, which was the stupidest s*** ever and caused way more harm than good. look at that celebration topic and how many people are calling some of you out on that.

tl;dr: A combination of Board 8's rashness and Allen's indecisiveness is the main cause of Draven winning and the drama that's been happening since, and the fact that r/LoL has thousands of people to rally from is pretty much a secondary factor.

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#440 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:13:59 PM | message detail
Truly, I would not mind having all previous winners retired and then put in a separate bracket or something later. New characters could fight against the popular characters that haven't won, and we won't have 6-time winners. Much more interesting contests without Link, Samus, and Cloud, IMHO.
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#441 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:16:49 PM | message detail
and I truly did like this contest, despite the boring last half of the finals. Although I would've had it without the giant rallies and rally wars, it made it interesting. So I enjoyed this.
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#442 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:17:48 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
So it was Allen all along.


Highly doubt it.
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#443 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:18:11 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, the Rivalry Rumble is definitely the worst. I remember almost nothing from that contest.

2004 was actually pretty good. We thought it was bad at the time, and it was compared to our first 3 contests all of which were great. But compared to modern contests 2004 was pretty good. Plus my bracket scored 189/192, 2 matches away from a perfect, which is nice.
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#444 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/16/2013 9:21:02 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
2004 had Jill/Hayabusa/CATSglitch and three incredible Frog matches. It also had uncertainty around the finals and, IIRC, B8 was split down the middle between Link and Cloud. So yeah 2004 was better than this.


Perhaps, but still, that doesn't make up for having boatloads of SFF affairs IMO.
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#445 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:22:40 PM | message detail
Though that was the height of groupthink on this board. I was eliminated from the Guru when Jill lost to Hayabusa by 27 votes. It was a 1 point round 1 match, about 25ish matches into the contest I think. But you can't blame people for picking the cookie when the Guru cookie scored high 180s out of 192 or something like that. I think it was between 185 and 188, can't remember the exact score.
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#446 | SgtSphynx | Posted 9/16/2013 9:23:31 PM | message detail
From: TheOneAboveAll | Posted: 9/17/2013 12:13:04 AM | #438
red sox 777 posted...
The last 33 hours have left me feeling pretty down. Another contest ended, this one the worst contest ever (villains doesn't count), and no telling when Crono will be able to next win a 1v1 match. And Draven is probably gone forever. This is the feeling you people would have if you succeeded in getting Link retired.


Just remember, this has only been the worst contest ever because Rivalry Rumble has been intentionally wiped from our collective memory.

Then why do I still remember it? Oh god, if only I could forget!

I honestly cannot remember that contest, I don't even remember if I was here for it.
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#447 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:27:08 PM | message detail
I was so excited on Friday when Link/Draven 1v1 was announced. Losing is one thing. Being denied a chance to challenge is far worse. Draven is the champion who wins the title once and rides away, never to defend his title, so that he will always cast a dark shadow over any subsequent champion. Or he appears to be right now.
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#448 | LOLContests | Posted 9/16/2013 9:27:17 PM | message detail
2003
2002
Sp2004

--Gap--

2007
2005

2009

--Gap--

Winter 2010/Fall 2010

--Gap--

2008
2006
2013
Summer 2006

--Gap--

2004
Sp2005
2011

The problem with this past contest wasn't so much that it was bad per se. It was the rammifications for future contests. If these things are going to turn into all (oftentimes mean-spirited) rallying all the time count me out. All of the contests in its tier or below were either mini-contests or contests with gimmicks that we could have easily gotten rid of, and which in most cases we actually did.
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#449 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:29:55 PM | message detail
Hey I enjoyed watching Link put 88% on Ganondorf and 81% on Yoshi! 67% on Mega Man was pretty fun too! That Mega Man had just beaten Snake with 57%, and Link makes him look like a midcarder.
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#450 | creativename | Posted 9/16/2013 9:30:37 PM | message detail
Currently I believe Allen, but I'd definitely like to see someone contact him about that and get an official reply.

As for how this contest ranks - it had it's moments, Vivi, Mega Man - but stuff like downtime ruining would should have been the greatest match ever, the stupid sticky ruining HayterFAQs, the idiotic LFF matches, it really leaves a sour taste in your mouth.

It's better than Rivalry Rumble (duh) and Villains, but I'd put it behind 2K6. That had the female bracket which was awful, but the male bracket was great.

So this was the 3rd worst contest IMO.

Solioxrz362 posted...
Truly, I would not mind having all previous winners retired and then put in a separate bracket or something later. New characters could fight against the popular characters that haven't won, and we won't have 6-time winners. Much more interesting contests without Link, Samus, and Cloud, IMHO.

Add Batman etc. and you don't need to worry about this retiring winners crap.
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