Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1182

#101 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:13:08 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I'd take Sephiroth > Mewtwo in an instant for a 1v1 contest next year.

Mewtwo is getting Charizarded hard.


...Explain 'Charizarded'
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#102 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:13:35 AM | message detail
1v1 changes so much. L-Block? Never happens in 1v1. Draven? Loses in R3 to Link in 1v1 (whether or not he'd beat him now).

This match? Without multi-way polls, Link would not have lost a match since Cloud in 2003. The hate and resentment would have kept building, with no release valve with L-Block or Draven. Snake might very well win this match.
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#103 | spooky96 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:16:19 AM | message detail | (edited)
DidYouMWISMe posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'd take Sephiroth > Mewtwo in an instant for a 1v1 contest next year.

Mewtwo is getting Charizarded hard.


...Explain 'Charizarded'


Dropping in power immensely probably. From 46% on Mario to struggling to beat Zelda and losing to a crippled Mega Man. I too would go with Sephiroth.
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#104 | xp1337 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:14:29 AM | message detail
DidYouMWISMe posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'd take Sephiroth > Mewtwo in an instant for a 1v1 contest next year.

Mewtwo is getting Charizarded hard.


...Explain 'Charizarded'

Beats Bowser. Puts up a great show on Mario. Exposed as a fraud here who needed rallies to beat a Zelda leashed by DK and loses to MM with Zero there!
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#105 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:14:52 AM | message detail
DidYouMWISMe posted...
red sox 777 posted...
Backfire is the only thing that kept Link and Snake in those matches.


True, but that's somewhat strange wording. Had Reddit never gotten involved in the first place, Link (and Snake) would have easily wiped the floor with Draven. You can't really say backfire had a 'beneficial' impact of keeping them competitive when they wouldn't have even needed the backfire to win in an environment where Reddit hadn't rallied for anyone.


It did, because we HAVE seen Draven do work with no backfire impact. Check out Draven/Megaman X/Ryu on gamefaqscontests. According to Lopen's stats, the two latter entrants combined pulled anywhere from 10% of the rallied votes...to 2%. If Draven faced a theoretically superpowerful character who wouldn't benefit from a vote split (like 2003 Cloud, maybe?), he'd be a ridiculous monster.
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#106 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:15:55 AM | message detail
DidYouMWISMe posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'd take Sephiroth > Mewtwo in an instant for a 1v1 contest next year.

Mewtwo is getting Charizarded hard.


...Explain 'Charizarded'


Charizard was supposed to romp with ease en route toward possibly making the finals after his run in 2010.

He barely beat Zelda and got outrallied by Mega Man in a match where he was ridiculously favored.

The last one is hard to stress how insulting it is to his pedigree. A Pokemon. Getting outrallied.
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#107 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:16:30 AM | message detail
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Yeah, that's totally fair - I don't think we've had a single case of a LPF'd entity having revenge on someone who was ahead in a future match, but that's partly because we've had few contests. I just think Samus/Snake is a more interesting affair than Snake/Link because it gives an interesting gauge for a variety of things, as opposed to 'of course Link wins, next'.


Link's winning, but not by nearly as much as he'd have wiped the floor with Snake in previous years.

So I'd say this bonus match is pretty cool as a Snake fan. It's validation that Snake's been continuing to gain popularity while Link might actually be losing a step or two. Most of the Noble Nine have been declining; Snake's gone from the weak link in the group to (most likely) 2nd place.

Not sure if that trajectory will ever reach a point where Snake could beat Link 1 v 1, but he has a better shot than anyone else who isn't Reddit-rallied or joke-rallied like Draven and L-Block were, respectively.
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#108 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:19:14 AM | message detail
1vs1 battle forever
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#109 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:19:28 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...

Charizard was supposed to romp with ease en route toward possibly making the finals after his run in 2010.

He barely beat Zelda and got outrallied by Mega Man in a match where he was ridiculously favored.

The last one is hard to stress how insulting it is to his pedigree. A Pokemon. Getting outrallied.


...Heh. Clearly, I've missed a lot.
I'll just settle on the Pokemon being 'weird and unpredictable' and call it a day. Not sure how to reconcile any of that with Squirtle sneaking by Cloud. Really I just don't know anything about Pokemon aside from the fact it exists.
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#110 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 12:20:05 AM | message detail
DidYouMWISMe posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I'd take Sephiroth > Mewtwo in an instant for a 1v1 contest next year.

Mewtwo is getting Charizarded hard.


...Explain 'Charizarded'
Charizard won a (weak) division in his contest debut in 2010 by beating Duke Nukem, God of War III-hype-fueled Kratos, L-block, and Bowser. He seemed to gather bandwagon support over time, had a Pokemon game released during the Bowser match, and ended up at over 46% on Mario. He was hyped as a potential Noble Nine-breaker afterwards but there were lots of doubts because of just how overrated that Mario performance made his earlier opponents looked. Then this year, sans-bandwagon and release factor, he collapsed hilariously.
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#111 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:20:28 AM | message detail
What's even weirder is that Draven is probably fairly close to linear, if you factor out effects like the wording and timing of the rally thread. Basically, you are running 2 polls: one on Gamefaqs that gets around 60,000 votes, and one on the League of Legends subreddit that gets around 90,000 votes. Both polls are likely shockingly close to linear independently. More linear than FFVII and Pokemon on this site nowadays are.
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#112 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:20:44 AM | message detail
Snake has gone from being worth 33% on Link at his nadir to over 48% at the time of this posting.

Him beating Link is patently not impossible, but as Cloud can tell you this guy doesn't f*** around. He needs MGSV to be a huge hit and then probably some other favorable circumstance to take him down legit.
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#113 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:22:05 AM | message detail
Hey, who remembers this thing RySenkari did?

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=446439

He did all sorts of fun BS like a cute Pokémon being rallied above Cloud and the final battle being Link vs. Snake and Snake getting 48% on him

lol like that would ever happen
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#114 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:23:52 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
What's even weirder is that Draven is probably fairly close to linear, if you factor out effects like the wording and timing of the rally thread. Basically, you are running 2 polls: one on Gamefaqs that gets around 60,000 votes, and one on the League of Legends subreddit that gets around 90,000 votes. Both polls are likely shockingly close to linear independently. More linear than FFVII and Pokemon on this site nowadays are.


This...is probably true, actually. I kinda want to contest those numbers (Draven feels like a character who draws in 60k votes normally on Reddit), but otherwise it seems sound. Draven has a neo-FF7 night vote, collapses during the day, but rebounds as rally intensity hits pitch and alternative channels are tapped into. We've seen this happen again and again. The only anomaly is his Round 2 performance, but I believe that's because that match was effectively a 1v1 between League of Legends and 2013 Capcom.
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#115 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:23:58 AM | message detail
But notably Snake's potential for turning this around is a lot brighter than Cloud's ever was. Cloud has essentially been running off one game and a few cameos for over a decade now. He just doesn't have boost potential like Snake does.

Snake's releases are so high profile and important to him that he never fails to boost a ton whenever a major one drops. Which makes sense, after all, he's only had four (five counting Brawl).
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#116 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:25:23 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
But notably Snake's potential for turning this around is a lot brighter than Cloud's ever was. Cloud has essentially been running off one game and a few cameos for over a decade now. He just doesn't have boost potential like Snake does.

Snake's releases are so high profile and important to him that he never fails to boost a ton whenever a major one drops. Which makes sense, after all, he's only had four (five counting Brawl).


The issue being, of course, that Snake also drops SUPER hard when he doesn't get stuff, IIRC. That lines up with his 2004 performance and his 2005 rebound, right?
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#117 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/16/2013 12:25:38 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake has gone from being worth 33% on Link at his nadir to over 48% at the time of this posting.

Him beating Link is patently not impossible, but as Cloud can tell you this guy doesn't f*** around. He needs MGSV to be a huge hit and then probably some other favorable circumstance to take him down legit.


I think the favorable circumstance is that Skyward Sword wasn't the critical hit for a console Zelda than it could have been, and nothing's on the horizon right now.

Imagine if Zelda were to get a console release of the critical reception of say...Super Mario Galaxy. There would be no hope for Snake.
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#118 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 12:27:30 AM | message detail
DoctorJimmy133 posted...
Hey, who remembers this thing RySenkari did?

http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=446439

He did all sorts of fun BS like a cute Pokémon being rallied above Cloud and the final battle being Link vs. Snake and Snake getting 48% on him

lol like that would ever happen

oh god lol vincent
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#119 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:27:46 AM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...

The issue being, of course, that Snake also drops SUPER hard when he doesn't get stuff, IIRC. That lines up with his 2004 performance and his 2005 rebound, right?


Has Snake really had an off-year since 2004, though? It seems to me like his trajectory's been more a diagonal line shooting upward since that low point.
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#120 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:29:43 AM | message detail
DidYouMWISMe posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

The issue being, of course, that Snake also drops SUPER hard when he doesn't get stuff, IIRC. That lines up with his 2004 performance and his 2005 rebound, right?


Has Snake really had an off-year since 2004, though? It seems to me like his trajectory's been more a diagonal line shooting upward since that low point.


The time after MGS4 and before anything else of import might have counted. Not sure though, as he hasn't gone two-three years without a game since.
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#121 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:30:45 AM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake has gone from being worth 33% on Link at his nadir to over 48% at the time of this posting.

Him beating Link is patently not impossible, but as Cloud can tell you this guy doesn't f*** around. He needs MGSV to be a huge hit and then probably some other favorable circumstance to take him down legit.


I think the favorable circumstance is that Skyward Sword wasn't the critical hit for a console Zelda than it could have been, and nothing's on the horizon right now.

Imagine if Zelda were to get a console release of the critical reception of say...Super Mario Galaxy. There would be no hope for Snake.


Eh, critical acclaim doesn't matter so much for GameFAQs. SMG has snagged just about every accolade you can and it's pitifully weak anyway. GameFAQs just doesn't care about it.

Link also just has a very difficult time boosting from his games now because he had so many. Snake only has 4 titles that he's drawing strength from, not counting SSB. Each game in Link's corner is a much smaller share of his overall strength and can't affect the overall package as much.

Hype seems to be the strongest factor for Link as opposed to his actual games dropping. I firmly hold that the strongest Links we've ever seen were Link 2004 (Twilight Princess trailer hype) and Link 2006 (Twilight Princess releasing right as the Battle Royale was happening). The game's release itself from a purely literal standpoint actually weakened him.
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#122 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:31:42 AM | message detail
Snake's biggest concern at this point may be maintaining his underdog status. He's been the chosen underdog of the site for the last 5 years now. The last time the site dismissed him as unimportant was the 2007 final when he was Last Place Factored. Since then, he has replaced Cloud as Link's challenger, and embarassed Cloud/Sephiroth repeatedly.

I was proclaiming "Snake always wins" as joking propaganda for Link, but for FFVII fans it probably feels like reality by now. Cloud's 2010 win is pretty the only victory FFVII has had over Snake since 2007. And 2007 doesn't even feel like a victory because Cloud came in 3rd to Link and a Tetris piece.

And now, Snake has made a contest final that did not have Link or Cloud. He is currently over 48% on Link. I don't know how much longer the site will accept him as their plucky underdog.
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#123 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:33:43 AM | message detail
Probably for about as long the site accepts Pokemon as their plucky underdogs imhhho
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#124 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/16/2013 12:34:49 AM | message detail
If it's as long as the site thought FFVII always won, that may be a long time.
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#125 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:35:08 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...

And now, Snake has made a contest final that did not have Link or Cloud. He is currently over 48% on Link. I don't know how much longer the site will accept him as their plucky underdog.


In the future, I'd like to see a return of the traditional 1 v 1 contest matchups, with Link grandfathered into a Hall of Fame, and the winner challenging Link in a Bonus Match.

That's probably too vanilla a formula, but it'd be a great way to gauge the current popularity of the rest of the NN in matches. So long as Draven doesn't distort everything via more Reddit rallies, anyway. (Though I don't know how that'd reasonably be prevented absent banning League of Legends characters entirely, which might not go over well.)
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#126 | GloriousSweater (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/16/2013 12:36:11 AM | message detail
Hey, with Charizard dropping the turd of the contest and making the rest of his Pokepals all look bad, I'd say he's bought the series another three years.
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#127 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:37:09 AM | message detail
In a traditional 1v1 character bracket Draven probably can't get enough nominations to make the field. Absent a massive nomination rally push which would be quite a bit more involved than the r/LoL rallies.
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#128 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/16/2013 12:37:33 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
And now, Snake has made a contest final that did not have Link or Cloud. He is currently over 48% on Link. I don't know how much longer the site will accept him as their plucky underdog.


It's hard to say, because the people that complain about the status quo of our contests don't seem to realize anything that's happened in them since 2004 aside from L-Block, and I'm sure Draven will be remembered as a meme character like L.

But I'd wager the site at large won't group him in that category until he actually wins a first place. It's the only thing they actually remember.
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#129 | GloriousSweater (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/16/2013 12:39:42 AM | message detail
Draven just won a contest; I don't think he'll have to worry about nomination support for as long as these contests are around. Trolls alone will get him in. Also, not to undersell the length to which SB tweaked the seeds, but he did get a 3 seed this time around. He probably could have made a 128 character field this year.
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#130 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:39:48 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
In a traditional 1v1 character bracket Draven probably can't get enough nominations to make the field. Absent a massive nomination rally push which would be quite a bit more involved than the r/LoL rallies.


Unlikely. He's won a contest, he'll make the field. And besides that, I think the Board Noms showed that he had a big amount of support, much bigger than most.
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#131 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/16/2013 12:40:18 AM | message detail
DID I HEAR SOMEONE SAY 1-ON-1

Division 1

(1) Draven
(16) Ness

(8) Aerith Gainsborough
(9) Dragonborn

(5) The Boss
(12) Lloyd Irving

(4) Crono
(13) Cole MacGrath

(6) Captain Falcon
(11) Missingno

(3) Kefka
(14) Balthier Bunansa

(7) Vivi Ornitier
(10) Ryu

(2) GlaDOS
(15) Cecil Harvey

Division 2

(1) Sephiroth
(16) Amaterasu

(8) Protoman
(9) Dr. Robotnik

(5) Scorpion
(12) Heavy

(4) Squirtle
(13) Master Chief

(6) Yoshi
(11) Booker DeWitt

(3) Barret Wallace
(14) Shulk

(7) Crash Bandicoot
(10) Magikarp

(2) Phoenix Wright
(15) Jill Valentine

Division 3

(1) Solid Snake
(16) Reimu Hakurei

(8) Spyro the Dragon
(9) Auron

(5) Waluigi
(12) Riku

(4) Charizard
(13) Little Mac

(6) Epona
(11) Isaac BOI

(3) Pikachu
(14) Thrall

(7) Ike
(10) Lucina

(2) Marth
(15) Clementine

Division 4

(1) Mewtwo
(16) Tingle

(8) L-Block
(9) Wheatley

(5) Tifa Lockhart
(12) Fox McCloud

(4) Zelda
(13) Ridley

(6) Garrus Vakarian
(11) Fei Fong Wong

(3) Samus Aran
(14) Lugia

(7) Gilgamesh
(10) Zidane Tribal

(2) Bowser
(15) Nathan Drake

Division 5

(1) Chie Satonaka
(16) Pac-Man

(8) Commander Shepard
(9) Miles Edgeworth

(5) Altair
(12) Meta Knight

(4) Ryu Hayabusa
(13) Tom Nook

(6) Pokemon Trainer Red
(11) Yuna

(3) Sora
(14) Urdnot Wrex

(7) Elizabeth
(10) Mordin Solus

(2) Vincent Valentine
(15) Donkey Kong

Division 6

(1) Jak
(16) Ezio Auditore da Firenze

(8) Ratchet
(9) Rydia

(5) Dracula
(12) Slime

(4) Sub-Zero
(13) Zero

(6) Mega Man X
(11) Pokemon Trainer Blue

(3) Raiden
(14) Pyramid Head

(7) Dante
(10) Frog

(2) Big Boss
(15) Yoshimitsu

Division 7

(1) Sonic the Hedgehog
(16) Captain Olimar

(8) Midna
(9) Squall Leonhart

(5) Lara Croft
(12) Princess Peach

(4) Mega Man
(13) Ramza Beoulve

(6) Morrigan Aensland
(11) Bayonetta

(3) Zack Fair
(14) Revolver Ocelot

(7) Nightmare
(10) Poison

(2) Kirby
(15) Chun-Li

Division 8

(1) Link
(16) Knuckles the Echidna

(8) Professor Layton
(9) Chrom

(5) KOS-MOS
(12) Agent 47

(4) Cloud Strife
(13) Big Daddy

(6) Alucard
(11) Tidus

(3) Terra Branford
(14) John Marston

(7) Mario
(10) Isaac (Golden Sun)

(2) Luigi
(15) Aya Brea


LOOK AT IT

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#132 | Darkemaste | Posted 9/16/2013 12:52:56 AM | message detail | (edited)
red sox 777 posted...
Backfire is the only thing that kept Link and Snake in those matches. Get this: Samus, the one who was abandoned horribly, and facing stronger competition........received nearly 7000 more votes yesterday than in her victorious semifinal match against Megaman and Red. Reddit probably rallied well in excess of 10,000 votes yesterday.....for Samus.

Thats probably more than what they did for Snake, I did mention quite a few people on r/leagueoflegends being vocal about not voting Draven over Samus.
I'd imagine the ones that voted Link from there would of voted for her anyway, as previously mentioned numerous times.
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#133 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:40:59 AM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
Draven just won a contest; I don't think he'll have to worry about nomination support for as long as these contests are around. Trolls alone will get him in. Also, not to undersell the length to which SB tweaked the seeds, but he did get a 3 seed this time around. He probably could have made a 128 character field this year.


3 seeds were rigged (much like many other seeds). Check all the other 3 seeds and you'll see the common thread.

And it just may not be enough. We've had concentrated pushes for characters that didn't make the field at all. Guru noms, even.
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#134 | DidYouMWISMe | Posted 9/16/2013 12:41:10 AM | message detail
...Can't complain about any bracket that has Chie Satonaka as a 1 seed.
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#135 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:41:39 AM | message detail
Even with raw X-stats, Mario always ****ing gets stuck meeting Link, screw this
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#136 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/16/2013 12:42:04 AM | message detail
You're assuming Mario survives the Year of Luigi

A dangerous mistake
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#137 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/16/2013 12:46:29 AM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
Draven just won a contest; I don't think he'll have to worry about nomination support for as long as these contests are around. Trolls alone will get him in. Also, not to undersell the length to which SB tweaked the seeds, but he did get a 3 seed this time around. He probably could have made a 128 character field this year.


It depends on how much you think he actually screwed with those seeds. Remember, the three seeds might have been the top new characters, but there are other new characters in the upper seeds (Tharja, Booker) that suggest they were still pretty high up in nominations. I think anyone of those three seeds would have made a 128 contest this year, and Draven's win will guarantee his presence for many years to come (as long as we keep bringing them back), just like L-Block.
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#138 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 12:50:10 AM | message detail
...59.5% update on Link.

Don't see that too often.
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#139 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 12:53:53 AM | message detail | (edited)
DidYouMWISMe posted...
Crono over Sephiroth? Really?
Wow, FFVII must've really lost a step or three.


With Vivi beating Mario, it feels less like FF has lost popularity as a series and more like FFVII specifically is just coming back to earth. Almost makes sense. As time passes, the FFVII hype is bound to die a little, and maybe the characters will be judged more for their personalities as time passes and less for the games they starred in.
My theory is that the FFVII generation is either pretty much gone from this site or have more or less moved on from the game.

What you've got left would be Final Fantasy and RPG fans in general. And Final Fantasy fans never ever ever agree with each other on how to rank the series!

FFVII should still end up at the top of the FF hierarchy but not by that much, and it can't really compete with Zelda and against the anti-votes if it's not the overwhelming favorite. Squall and FFX characters seem maybe slightly weaker; the FFVII generation had certainly at least played their games. That those and FFVII are the ones stagnating or weakening also may not be unconnected with their characters having benefited the most from Kingdom Hearts, which looked bad in 2010 and terrible this contest.

FFIX characters benefited a lot because it was never that popular in general but it does tend to be well thought of by FF fans. Ramza...looks around the same, maybe slightly better. SNES FF characters boosted through the roof because the general Final Fantasy fanbase has actually played and like the games, something I really don't think was true of the FFVII generation. Kefka never should have been as weak as he was back in the day otherwise considering how strong FFVI was (personally think that was just blind series voting and FFI having been so strong supports that imo; also FFT almost beating Metal Gear Solid what), but he boosted a lot in 2010 and went completely insane this contest.

And lol FFXII/FFXIII
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#140 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/16/2013 12:56:31 AM | message detail | (edited)
Kefka boosted because of Dissidia. We've gone over this. And I don't think that theory is really sound. I think that, plain and simple, the reason FF is weaker in general is due to votals. It's a much more 'casual' series than Zelda or Mario, odd as that may sound. The reason I think this is that Mario and Zelda tend to be formative gaming experiences. Most people play at least one of their games during childhood and become enormously attached to them both because they are consistently good, and because they represent a simpler, happier time. FF targets an older audience and by that point attachments to specific things are less strong, plus the lack of a unifying thread between games means you can't 'grow up' with a consistent set of characters like you can with the Triforce group or Mario, Luigi, Bowser and Peach. Remeber when you used to watch 100+ episode cartoons religiously, and multiple ones at that? How often do you do the same thing for adult shows these days?
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#141 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/16/2013 1:04:54 AM | message detail
Yeah. We've seen that if the voting is left up to GameFAQs members only, we'd have things like Missingno beating Squall ? Block beating Rikku, Kirby beating Sephiroth, etc.

The users that stick around are heavily biased for Nintendo and the Square popularity comes more from outsiders that come in to vote.
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#142 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 1:07:00 AM | message detail
Snake officially now finds himself in the rarified company of Clouderoth as the only three entities to ever win an hour over Link 1v1.
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#143 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 1:15:57 AM | message detail | (edited)
Most of that sounds pretty plausible too!

Though I don't think Dissidia is anywhere close to sufficient to explain Kefka. He performed better on Snake this contest - the Snake that's doing extremely well on Link right now - than Epic Fraud Magus did against 2003 Link. Current Kefka would be projected to more than double Kefka at his low point around 2008. Dissidia doing that much seems very hard to believe, especially since Kefka looked like he boosted a lot again after 2010. Unless that was because of Dissidia Duodecim. In which case Square-Enix should get on Dissidia 3 ASAP so that Kefka can boost to the Noble Nine level he deserves and give us an epic 50/50 Kefka vs. Sephiroth match.
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#144 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 1:18:43 AM | message detail
Kefka did well, but he still lost to GlaDOS. Both are still very good but Snake almost certainly underperformed on them both. Take a quarter of his traditional sprite underperformance (since he was exclusively Solid S*** in 25% of the pictures) and add it to Snake's total and I think that match lines up better.
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#145 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/16/2013 1:19:58 AM | message detail
Most people were actually disappointed with Kefka's performance in that match!
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#146 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/16/2013 1:23:57 AM | message detail
Kefka did about as well as could be expected. Escaping the doubling against Solid Snake today is very, very good. He can't really help that GlaDOS was just as impressive with her stellar Portal 2 boost.
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#147 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/16/2013 1:24:59 AM | message detail
Yeah, this is making it look like Kefka could avoid the doubling against Link or come darn close.

That's a huge improvement for Kefka.

GlaDOS, too, considering Kirby landed 68% on her in 2010.
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#148 | Rymari | Posted 9/16/2013 1:28:59 AM | message detail
We dont need another Dissidia.

Or hell just give the damn thing to someone and make it 2D. Couldnt be worse than what we got.
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#149 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 1:36:38 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Most people were actually disappointed with Kefka's performance in that match!
And I was saying before the match that some of them were completely out of their minds with their expectations and that they were setting themselves up for another round of "lol Kefka makes no sense!"

Which is then exactly what happened.

Dunno why people completely wrote off GLaDOS beating him. I picked Kefka for 2nd since he clearly had a good shot at it and I couldn't not pick him, but I figured it could be close; had Kefka narrowly winning in my Oracle.
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#150 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 9/16/2013 1:40:16 AM | message detail
Snake making some nice cuts!

If I didn't know Link was a day vote god I would be getting excited.
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