Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1182

#451 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:32:49 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
Currently I believe Allen, but I'd definitely like to see someone contact him about that and get an official reply..


Same here. This has gone on long enough.
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#452 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:35:05 PM | message detail
How can you believe Allen when the messages have been posted in full, proving 100% that it was the same person both times, the messages talking exactly how Allen would talk, and two separate reddit mods confirming that the messages are real?

What further proof do you need?
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#453 | SgtSphynx | Posted 9/16/2013 9:36:51 PM | message detail
Because we all know what Allen's name on Reddit is, yet the screencap blocks that info. Personally, I don't give a f*** anymore, and want the board to move the f*** on.
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#454 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/16/2013 9:37:15 PM | message detail
I cannot believe this is starting look like it might be real.

Allen is literally begging reddit mods because he can't make up his mind about what he wants to do.

This is like cartoon level incompetent.
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#455 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/16/2013 9:38:17 PM | message detail
SgtSphynx posted...
Because we all know what Allen's name on Reddit is, yet the screencap blocks that info. Personally, I don't give a f*** anymore, and want the board to move the f*** on.


I want to stop caring but if my every professional criticism of Allen is proven 100% right I can't not be interested.
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#456 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:40:11 PM | message detail
So someone has gone to all the effort to come up with photoshopped messages that look exactly like Allen, but then blocked out the screen name? If the messages are fake why not just photoshop in a screen name as well?

The reddit mod who was leaking these screenshots didn't realize there was only one GameFAQs admin, that's why the names are edited out. he says as much in the other topic.

Some of you guys are really grasping at straws here.
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#457 | LOLContests | Posted 9/16/2013 9:40:21 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
I cannot believe this is starting look like it might be real.

Allen is literally begging reddit mods because he can't make up his mind about what he wants to do.

This is like cartoon level incompetent.


IF it's true, Allen might have been facing legal pressure from above to change his decision. That would be the part of the convo that's blanked out. Still ridiculous though.
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#458 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/16/2013 9:41:06 PM | message detail
Incompetent as he is (either way, mind), I can at least empathize with Allen because he was honestly trying to help us. That's something I would never have entertained.
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#459 | Sorozone | Posted 9/16/2013 9:42:15 PM | message detail
Maybe reddit rallies will be banned from now on....nah who am I kidding.
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#460 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 9:42:26 PM | message detail
Gamefaqs has two admins.
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#461 | xp1337 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:42:58 PM | message detail | (edited)
-Tofa7- posted...
The reddit mod who was leaking these screenshots didn't realize there was only one GameFAQs admin

That's actually true (more than one admin) though, so... >_>
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#462 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:45:35 PM | message detail | (edited)
I'll just say that the Vince McMahon comparisons were accurate and call it a day. Doesn't bother me at all.
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#463 | SgtSphynx | Posted 9/16/2013 9:44:32 PM | message detail
I wouldn't have a problem with the rallies on Reddit if they listed all the contestants (unlikely) and if they didn't bring the f***ing trolls with them (not gonna happen.)
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#464 | RavenHusky14 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:47:35 PM | message detail
SgtSphynx posted...
I wouldn't have a problem with the rallies on Reddit if they listed all the contestants (unlikely) and if they didn't bring the f***ing trolls with them (not gonna happen.)


Well, when you guys react to an unknown character winning the way you did, you were pretty much asking for it.

And of course a rally is going to be biased. We want a specific character to win over another specific character. Why would we support Snake or Samus on a subreddit that they have no business being on?
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#465 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:49:49 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Incompetent as he is (either way, mind), I can at least empathize with Allen because he was honestly trying to help us. That's something I would never have entertained.


Yeah I have no problems with his thought process. He realized the contests were becoming overrun and decided to step in (something we can all agree with), later regretting his decision because its silly to outlaw rallies entirely (something we can all agree with).

The problem arises that he unintentionally caused a whole lot of drama (or the r/LoL mods did) by claiming it wasn't him who took down the rallies, which led to r/LoL accusing board 8 members of taking down rallies by pretending to be admins etc etc.

He also straight up lied to us in another topic that day. It would have been easier to say "I asked them to take down rallies initially but then reversed my decision because of reasons X, Y and Z."

Again, the best way to handle this whole situation WOULD have been to come to the board after maybe Draven/Ryu/MMX and have an open discussion as to how to best proceed with the contest and how to deal with Draven rallies. We could have come up with some middle ground fairly easily. keeping the board at arms length has only led to problems.

Also, as I said 50 posts ago, if I were Allen I would keep silent on this whole thing and let it blow over at this point. He doesn't need to confess or apologize in my eyes. What he did is 100% clear, and I can understand his reasoning. Mistakes were made, nothing new to see, lets move on.
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#466 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/16/2013 9:50:54 PM | message detail
RavenHusky14 posted...
SgtSphynx posted...
I wouldn't have a problem with the rallies on Reddit if they listed all the contestants (unlikely) and if they didn't bring the f***ing trolls with them (not gonna happen.)


Well, when you guys react to an unknown character winning the way you did, you were pretty much asking for it.

And of course a rally is going to be biased. We want a specific character to win over another specific character. Why would we support Snake or Samus on a subreddit that they have no business being on?


I have no comparative example, but the way you guys reacted the few times Draven was in danger of losing tells me that if something similar happened to you lot you'd absolutely lose your s***.

You came in and ruined our contest. We reacted perfectly reasonably.
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#467 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/16/2013 9:52:16 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
Incompetent as he is (either way, mind), I can at least empathize with Allen because he was honestly trying to help us. That's something I would never have entertained.


Yeah I have no problems with his thought process. He realized the contests were becoming overrun and decided to step in (something we can all agree with), later regretting his decision because its silly to outlaw rallies entirely (something we can all agree with).

The problem arises that he unintentionally caused a whole lot of drama (or the r/LoL mods did) by claiming it wasn't him who took down the rallies, which led to r/LoL accusing board 8 members of taking down rallies by pretending to be admins etc etc.

He also straight up lied to us in another topic that day. It would have been easier to say "I asked them to take down rallies initially but then reversed my decision because of reasons X, Y and Z."

Again, the best way to handle this whole situation WOULD have been to come to the board after maybe Draven/Ryu/MMX and have an open discussion as to how to best proceed with the contest and how to deal with Draven rallies. We could have come up with some middle ground fairly easily. keeping the board at arms length has only led to problems.

Also, as I said 50 posts ago, if I were Allen I would keep silent on this whole thing and let it blow over at this point. He doesn't need to confess or apologize in my eyes. What he did is 100% clear, and I can understand his reasoning. Mistakes were made, nothing new to see, lets move on.


Agreed. And instead of just taking the blame because none of us over here care about them, they have to MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THEY AREN'T INCOMPETENT

When we just watched them get fooled by one of their own yesterday in the sticky incident. Seriously, f*** the reddit mods.
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#468 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:53:17 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Agreed. And instead of just taking the blame because none of us over here care about them, they have to MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS THEY AREN'T INCOMPETENT


Well, they're not doing a very good job on that account.
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#469 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:55:11 PM | message detail | (edited)
AxemRedRanger posted...
Gamefaqs has two admins.


I'm aware. But it's a moot point. Either Devin sent two messages or Allen did. It's obvious it's Allen because he is running the contests, he admitted to sending the second message, and the messages both sound like Allen.

My point was TheEnigmaBlade or whatever the mods name was is blocking out the names because he thought there were a lot of GameFAQs admins and so he would be protecting Allen by hiding the name. He didn't realize there was only two admins and that it would be obvious which one it was.
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#470 | LOLContests | Posted 9/16/2013 9:55:35 PM | message detail
Something I still don't get is, where did that whole logic comparing Reddit manipulating our contest to our users manipulating their votes come from? It was a good point, but it wasn't from Bacon if these posts are to be believed, so it had to have come from a mod on Reddit. If it came from a Reddit mod themselves, why would Bacon changing his mind change theirs? It was still a valid point. Unless, Bacon said in the blocked out portion that he could face legal issues, so Reddit had to reverse their decision as well.
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#471 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 9/16/2013 9:55:41 PM | message detail
RavenHusky14 posted...
SgtSphynx posted...
I wouldn't have a problem with the rallies on Reddit if they listed all the contestants (unlikely) and if they didn't bring the f***ing trolls with them (not gonna happen.)


Well, when you guys react to an unknown character winning the way you did, you were pretty much asking for it.

And of course a rally is going to be biased. We want a specific character to win over another specific character. Why would we support Snake or Samus on a subreddit that they have no business being on?

While you are correct on the thing about Snake or Samus being in the subreddit, you can't defend the trolls. You simply can't. Don't even try.
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#472 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/16/2013 9:58:07 PM | message detail | (edited)
Oh hey, it just now occurred to me what a Link/Snake match allows us to do.

Based on Link/Snake and Snake/Isaac/Keen, Golden Sun Isaac is worth 20.65% on Link.

Isaac Fodder Line CONFIRMED.

And today's poll results don't look too bad for GTAV to me. Anyone take GTAV protagonist over Isaac?
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#473 | SgtSphynx | Posted 9/16/2013 9:58:32 PM | message detail
From: RavenHusky14 | Posted: 9/17/2013 12:47:35 AM | #464
SgtSphynx posted...
I wouldn't have a problem with the rallies on Reddit if they listed all the contestants (unlikely) and if they didn't bring the f***ing trolls with them (not gonna happen.)


Well, when you guys react to an unknown character winning the way you did, you were pretty much asking for it.

And of course a rally is going to be biased. We want a specific character to win over another specific character. Why would we support Snake or Samus on a subreddit that they have no business being on?

The rally in question that got deleted before the "official" rally got stickied, listed more than just Draven and didn't make the wording vindictive. The mods got fooled, made a rash decision without investigating, and made a vindictive post making it seem like we here at B8 were trying to use underhanded tactics, which, while there were some, the vast majority were decrying and mods were deleting those posts.

Like I have said many times, I would like to forget this incident, it brought out the ugly in many users on both sites, and I hope it never happens again.
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#474 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/16/2013 9:59:17 PM | message detail
GTA characters always suck in contests and from what I've heard and seen the characters in GTA V are actually pretty bland. The redneck one might have a chance to get past round 1 if he is facing fodder.
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#475 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/16/2013 10:00:05 PM | message detail | (edited)
AxemRedRanger posted...
And today's poll results don't look too bad for GTAV to me. Anyone take GTAV protagonist over Isaac?


No because it's GTA, and if this past contest was any indication, we might do well to not expect much of new characters... Besides, it's GTA. When was the last time GTA's looked good in a GameFAQs contest?
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#476 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/16/2013 10:07:49 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
GTA characters always suck in contests and from what I've heard and seen the characters in GTA V are actually pretty bland. The redneck one might have a chance to get past round 1 if he is facing fodder.


The last 4 GTA games (III, Vice City, San Andreas, and IV) are all very similar in strength. You cannot confidently say for sure which of those 4 games is the strongest one out of that group. Since the last 4 games are all very similar in strength, you'd probably expect GTA V to have similar strength to the previous 4.
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#477 | xp1337 | Posted 9/16/2013 10:09:20 PM | message detail
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67262904

Is this not the greatest twist in contest history?
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#478 | creativename | Posted 9/16/2013 10:14:40 PM | message detail
...why the f*** did his wife reverse stance then if she loves Snake?

Like someone else this, this is getting cartoony right here.
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#479 | Darkemaste | Posted 9/16/2013 10:21:37 PM | message detail
His OP is copypasta gold right there tbh.
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#480 | Sorozone | Posted 9/16/2013 10:23:03 PM | message detail
It's cartoony probably because of legal reasons. It's to cover it up. Which I understand.
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#481 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 10:23:33 PM | message detail
Allen's wife is the hero this board deserves...and the one it needs right now!
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#482 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 9/16/2013 10:25:00 PM | message detail
I am definitely convinced that Allen or someone close to Allen IRL is a big fan of Snake, otherwise explain why Snake always gets to make a deep run in the contest at the expense of FF7 or a slightly easier bracket placement.

Can't blame Bacon's wife for doing that, we all love Snake after all.
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#483 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 10:25:08 PM | message detail
Actually, I'm not even sure if we deserve it... Too funny!
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#484 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/16/2013 10:56:10 PM | message detail
this f***ing contest
CBIX matches were 5/10, contest season drama was 0/10, post contest drama is 999/10
#485 | xp1337 | Posted 9/16/2013 11:00:30 PM | message detail
The actual "stories behind the contest" are the greatest thing I have ever seen.

Like, I'm all on board the "death of contests" and all that stuff, but man, if it could somehow constantly deliver these kind of stories...!
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#486 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/16/2013 11:02:46 PM | message detail
Allen's wife hasn't heard of Luster Soldier!
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#487 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/16/2013 11:04:24 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Allen's wife hasn't heard of Luster Soldier!


I can't blame her for not knowing. Judging by her Karma, she doesn't log in that often, so I can't expect her to have any significant amount of interaction with any specific users here.
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#488 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/16/2013 11:42:27 PM | message detail
Luster, I have it on good information (from Nick) that you were buttdevastated.
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#489 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/16/2013 11:43:49 PM | message detail
I was not buttdevastated.
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#490 | DoctorJimmy133 | Posted 9/17/2013 12:04:50 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
I was not buttdevastated.

How does one say something like this with a straight face

i'm in hysterics just looking at it!
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#491 | SgtSphynx | Posted 9/17/2013 12:06:36 AM | message detail
Luster has no emotions, he is a robot.
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#492 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/17/2013 2:46:50 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
That picture is the fakest thing I've seen this week. I mean the way Allen talks to the mod seems designed to make him look like a moron.


The lengths people will go to defend Allen is hilarious.
#493 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/17/2013 2:54:37 AM | message detail
Just a moment. It was SBAllen's wife that did it? That is like a M. Night Shyamalan's twist! Now I get it why Snake always has an easy path to the finals! Makes sense!
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#494 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/17/2013 2:55:00 AM | message detail
I can confirm that love of Solid Snake causes people to do crazy things, Not Guilty
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#495 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/17/2013 3:00:11 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Just a moment. It was SBAllen's wife that did it? That is like a M. Night Shyamalan's twist! Now I get it why Snake always has an easy path to the finals! Makes sense!


It wasn't his wife, it's an attempt at an innocent excuse to escape accusations for influencing contest outcome and who wins prizes. He probably felt he'd have landed himself in serious trouble influencing this rally (which is allowed according to his rules) and not any other and backtracked. I'm sure he realises the cartoon cover up isn't too believable but nobody can prove otherwise.

What's more concerning was him flat out lying to Board 8 claiming someone was impersonating him. Should have said nothing, his attempt to gain short term favour with Board 8 from that led him to getting outsmarted by an r/lol mod which is a pretty embarrassing situation.
I mean lying, then slandering the people protecting your lie? He's not coming across as the sharpest tool in the shed.
#496 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 9/17/2013 5:50:48 AM | message detail
Well I didn't expect this to turn into SBAllen's Watergate
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#497 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/17/2013 6:59:38 AM | message detail
I assume these threads essentially shut down during the offseason? (or maybe not, who knows)
#498 | snoocete | Posted 9/17/2013 7:10:46 AM | message detail
Play League of Legends!

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#499 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/17/2013 7:14:40 AM | message detail
Play Grand Theft Auto V
#500 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/17/2013 7:15:06 AM | message detail
and ignore what snoocete said