Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1180

#151 | swordz9 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:10:08 PM | message detail
Wow, well from the looks of that bonus poll topic even Allen thinks this whole reddit rally stuff is ridiculous since he said the match went from interesting to finished. I wonder if it means he'll come up with new ideas/rules for another contest.
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#152 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/15/2013 12:10:51 PM | message detail
There's really nothing Allen can do to stop it. His hands are basically tied, legally.
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#153 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/15/2013 12:11:00 PM | message detail
in that case, good job luster.
and loading episode 11 now.
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#154 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/15/2013 12:11:37 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Luster did some investigative journalism to discover this fact for us.


LMFAO WHAT


Can someone post a quick tldr version of this. It's not like the match is interesting anyway.
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#155 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/15/2013 12:11:41 PM | message detail
Smurf will be publicly shamed on the next episode of The Show.
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#156 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:11:55 PM | message detail
Yeah, there's nothing that can be done here. Everything that's happened has been within the rules.
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#157 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/15/2013 12:12:32 PM | message detail
ItGetsWorse posted...
Can someone post a quick tldr version of this. It's not like the match is interesting anyway.


After doing some research, I have finally discovered the identity of the Touhou stuffer. Using some archived leaderboards from TRE, I was able to create a list of every single user that was on the leaderboards during the time period from August 9th to August 18th.

Out of those users, there were only 3 banned accounts. 2 of those accounts happen to be a yoblazer account and a Strahax account, so they weren't banned for vote stuffing. The 3rd account was Smurf. That's right, I finally busted Smurf as being involved with the Touhou stuffing. When I sent him an email about this, he confirmed that he was the Touhou stuffer.
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#158 | GloriousSweater (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/15/2013 12:13:48 PM | message detail
Strahax and Smurf stuffing for lolicon

...this is the company I am in.
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#159 | ZFS | Posted 9/15/2013 12:14:13 PM | message detail
Yeah, I wouldn't blame Allen for anything here. Not something he can honestly mess with.
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#160 | swordz9 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:14:18 PM | message detail
Well yeah, I'm not saying he can do anything now. I'm just saying I wonder if all this reddit nonsense will cause him to see if he can change a/some contest rules in a future contest. I mean there's no reason to really think they won't do this kind of massive rallying again if LoL is present in anything and it's somebody they don't hate (lol Teemo).
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#161 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/15/2013 12:14:19 PM | message detail
So it turns out Smurf was a pedophile all along.

I should've guessed.
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#162 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/15/2013 12:14:22 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
ItGetsWorse posted...
Can someone post a quick tldr version of this. It's not like the match is interesting anyway.


After doing some research, I have finally discovered the identity of the Touhou stuffer. Using some archived leaderboards from TRE, I was able to create a list of every single user that was on the leaderboards during the time period from August 9th to August 18th.

Out of those users, there were only 3 banned accounts. 2 of those accounts happen to be a yoblazer account and a Strahax account, so they weren't banned for vote stuffing. The 3rd account was Smurf. That's right, I finally busted Smurf as being involved with the Touhou stuffing. When I sent him an email about this, he confirmed that he was the Touhou stuffer.


Luster you are a stud.

Can you confirm if this lightning-02 guy is Smurf or if he's just a random dickhead?
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#163 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:14:33 PM | message detail
Actually, about that Luster. I assume it was the Expert Leaderboards you were looking at (because Touhou winning a match lol), I didn't think TRE was archiving those! Or is it just they aren't posted in the stats topic with updates like Bracket Challenge?
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#164 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/15/2013 12:15:31 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
Strahax and Smurf stuffing for lolicon

...this is the company I am in.


the new Unholy Trinity
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#165 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/15/2013 12:15:53 PM | message detail
TRE has HTML archives of the leaderboards for every single match of the contest. I asked TRE for those archives.

ItGetsWorse posted...
Can you confirm if this lightning-02 guy is Smurf or if he's just a random dickhead?


Yeah, "lightning-02" is Smurf based on an email he sent me.
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#166 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/15/2013 12:16:11 PM | message detail
People consider Strahax to be an actual member of the board and not a bot?
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#167 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:16:40 PM | message detail
Ah, that makes sense.
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#168 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/15/2013 12:17:49 PM | message detail
The rally is losing steam already and it's still number 1 on the LoL subreddit.
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#169 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/15/2013 12:17:52 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
TRE has HTML archives of the leaderboards for every single match of the contest. I asked TRE for those archives.

ItGetsWorse posted...
Can you confirm if this lightning-02 guy is Smurf or if he's just a random dickhead?


Yeah, "lightning-02" is Smurf based on an email he sent me.


Wow, props to XIII for sniffing him out

This explains so much
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#170 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:18:08 PM | message detail
lightning is indeed the star of this contest
L Block>Auron,Vivi>Mario and Squirtle>Cloud...and now this
Althought L Block failed,Vivi and Squirtle gave so many WTF moments and Vivi>Mario was the biggest upset...of all time? (not counting L Block and Draven)

I don't think he is Smurf,though
He wasn't as anti Mega Man as I remember Smurf being and even though he tried to rally for Sonic he..really didn't care he lost to Mewtwo
I don't know him too well as I only lurk here off-season but I don't feel like it's him

Now that the contest is over,why don't you tell us who you are?
#171 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/15/2013 12:18:18 PM | message detail | (edited)
This GameFAQs contest was literally controlled by Albion-lite.
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#172 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/15/2013 12:18:42 PM | message detail
good job XIII. calling it on the spot when asked.
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#173 | JJH777 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:18:49 PM | message detail
Draven's slowing down. I knew those 600 gains couldn't last forever. Link would have definitely had a chance tomorrow... I'm kind of disappointed we won't get it not I really wanted Draven to lose at least once before this ended. Hopefully Snake vs Link is good.
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#174 | creativename | Posted 9/15/2013 12:18:50 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Yeah, I wouldn't blame Allen for anything here. Not something he can honestly mess with.

Well actually there is, if they fell for some random guy saying "Please delete your rally threads", the actual confirmed Allen should have had no problem telling to delete the sticky thread, at the least.

I mean if Draven was able to create a natural rally thread that's fine, but that sticky was just absurd - and the moment it got stickied it wasn't going to go anywhere, un-stickied or not.

So yeah. Allen could definitely have done something.
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#175 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/15/2013 12:19:09 PM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
People consider Strahax to be an actual member of the board and not a bot?


Bot? No. He's our resident troll.
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#176 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:19:34 PM | message detail
Star of the Contest is everyone involved in pulling together that list of people rallying Snake, tbqh. And including them, of course.
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#177 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/15/2013 12:20:25 PM | message detail
So Smurf is as pathetic as I've said for 10 years.

Who is surprised by this?
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#178 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/15/2013 12:20:33 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
The rally is losing steam already and it's still number 1 on the LoL subreddit.


Oh my, you're right! It is losing steam!

...Pity that it's still way too late. Unless Snake finds a way to tear away at it at a much higher rate than he did last time, this lead is too big.
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#179 | creativename | Posted 9/15/2013 12:21:21 PM | message detail
ItGetsWorse posted...
GloriousSweater posted...
Strahax and Smurf stuffing for lolicon

...this is the company I am in.


the new Unholy Trinity

Pedophiles and...Mermaid-ophiles? Such company indeed.

-LusterSoldier- posted...
Yeah, "lightning-02" is Smurf based on an email he sent me.

Really? Aww. I was hoping lightning-02 wasn't a jackass.

Sigh, this contest can't even give us that.
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#180 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/15/2013 12:21:30 PM | message detail
Also, Board 8 making topics on Reddit only to delete them is way more pathetic than their rallying.

You'd also have to be pretty dumb to not discuss it privately so you don't get caught.
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#181 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/15/2013 12:21:59 PM | message detail
Someone needs to make a Smurf page on the board 8 wiki.
I feel left out not knowing anything about him!
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#182 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:22:05 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Also, Board 8 making topics on Reddit only to delete them is way more pathetic than their rallying.

You'd also have to be pretty dumb to not discuss it privately so you don't get caught.


We never did it -_-
#183 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/15/2013 12:22:17 PM | message detail
Bacon took down the bonus poll.

I guess he's had enough, too.
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#184 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/15/2013 12:22:25 PM | message detail
Star of the contest is one of David Hayter or Jennifer Hale right now.
i'm not sure which.

if only we had some sort of... bonus poll that could make them fight over it....
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#185 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/15/2013 12:22:32 PM | message detail
Allen might get in legal trouble if he told the reddit LoL mods to delete the rally thread.

And again, you can't really stop rallies. What if the reddit mods refuse to delete the rallies this time? As Bacon said, it's easier just to allow them than to try and stop them.
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#186 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:22:48 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
ZFS posted...
Yeah, I wouldn't blame Allen for anything here. Not something he can honestly mess with.

Well actually there is, if they fell for some random guy saying "Please delete your rally threads", the actual confirmed Allen should have had no problem telling to delete the sticky thread, at the least.

I mean if Draven was able to create a natural rally thread that's fine, but that sticky was just absurd - and the moment it got stickied it wasn't going to go anywhere, un-stickied or not.

So yeah. Allen could definitely have done something.

I don't really think he could have. I mean, setting aside whether or not he was obligated to step in and clear the record during the Mewtwo match, I'm not sure he really has a reason to intervene on what was clearly some internal rules disaster or whatever.

I mean, regardless of the absurd circumstances that led to the sticky, none of it really was GameFAQs's doing. Not really anyway. They just had a bunch of rules that kept them from stickying immediately. That they got tricked on them isn't really a GameFAQs problem on that level that obligates interference.
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#187 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:23:18 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Bacon took down the bonus poll.

I guess he's had enough, too.


Wasn't the poll limited for registered only?
If it wasn't...then it was very stupid
#188 | MZero11 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:06 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
MZero11 posted...
The Character Battle is one big Internet popularity contest.

I don't get why people keep using this "It's not reflective of GameFAQs!" argument when the contest literally isn't supposed to be restricted to GameFAQs.


The Character Battle has become one big Internet popularity contest on exactly two occasions: L-Block and Draven.


It is one though, in the official rules.

The only time the Internet actually got involved was L-Block and Draven though.

Honestly it's like saying the MLB is ruined because now team are full of Latin Americans and Asians and it's no longer a reflection of American Baseball or something.
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#189 | creativename | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:10 PM | message detail
JJH777 posted...
Draven's slowing down. I knew those 600 gains couldn't last forever. Link would have definitely had a chance tomorrow... I'm kind of disappointed we won't get it not I really wanted Draven to lose at least once before this ended. Hopefully Snake vs Link is good.

Yeah I was disappointed too, unless the incredibly unlikely event of a mod sticky was going to happen again Draven had zero chance to even keep it respectable 1v1 against "our savior" version of Link.

I would have given a Snake a good shot at breaking 47% on pre-Draven Link...against the "our savior" version of Link though, he's getting toasted. All the Link hate has died down due to the Hyrule Screwjob and he's stronger than ever.

Link should get at least 56% here. It won't be an interesting match.

If Snake breaks 45% it's a moral victory.
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#190 | xp1337 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:30 PM | message detail
Nah, he just got the result he needed.

Link/Snake is official now.
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#191 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:31 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Also, Board 8 making topics on Reddit only to delete them is way more pathetic than their rallying.

You'd also have to be pretty dumb to not discuss it privately so you don't get caught.


We never did it -_-


Then what happened?
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#192 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:35 PM | message detail
MZero11 posted...
Honestly it's like saying the MLB is ruined because now team are full of Latin Americans and Asians and it's no longer a reflection of American Baseball or something.


This is a terrible analogy and you should feel bad for making it.
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#193 | FMercury12 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:42 PM | message detail
OnionOfMystery posted...
swordz9 posted...
Last I looked Snake was only like 1,500 behind. Looks like Draven being Draven happened. Actually that's a lot of votes in such a short amount of time so uh what did happen? Did the match get rallied during the LoL tournament or whatever?


World Finals is starting in 2 minutes. Not even a stream to rally yet.


Streams come up 1hr before the game starts...
#194 | Arcvalons | Posted 9/15/2013 12:24:48 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Also, Board 8 making topics on Reddit only to delete them is way more pathetic than their rallying.

You'd also have to be pretty dumb to not discuss it privately so you don't get caught.


The guy who posted that here was a Reddit troll. The actual guy who posted the original thread hasn't deleted it, and called on the r/lol mods on their cheating
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#195 | ItGetsWorse | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:00 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Someone needs to make a Smurf page on the board 8 wiki.
I feel left out not knowing anything about him!


Not sure if you know this already and are joking... but Smurf practically filed a cease and desist order against zachnorn to have his wiki page removed. He thought employers would somehow trace his real identity to "Smurf" on a random message board.
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#196 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:22 PM | message detail
Link/Snake confirmed.
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#197 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:22 PM | message detail
yeah, allen can't do anything here legally. protecting his identity is one thing, actively interfering is another. the fact that he had to interfere to protect his identity isn't good, but he minimalized its effects by just leaving at saying that person wasn't him. here there's nothing to stand on.
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#198 | swordz9 | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:44 PM | message detail
Didn't Allen say something before about how the contests were uninteresting because Link always wins or something? I think it was essentially something like that. Next character contest we could have even more LoL characters in and end up with like 4-5 MEGA Links if the game hasn't died down. Kind of makes LAW look good.
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#199 | Regaro_Ukiera | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:51 PM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...
Also, Board 8 making topics on Reddit only to delete them is way more pathetic than their rallying.

You'd also have to be pretty dumb to not discuss it privately so you don't get caught.


Yeah like mentioned, B8 never did it.

That one account that Smurf is claiming to be the owner of claimed he was doing it, but he was proven to be a liar
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#200 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/15/2013 12:25:54 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Oh my, you're right! It is losing steam!


I would probably blame that on Worlds starting at 3:00 PM EST. That was also the same time the rally started to lose steam.
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