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If everyone here were like me, that post would be accurate. But Snake is almost as popular as Link on this site.
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From: XIII_rocks | #400
Everyone knows the big poll for the Gamefaqs users is the Link vs Draven poll right? Link is the character they got upset over, if Snake loses to Draven it'll be skipped right over so they can go back to obsessing over Link and hoping they can win the Bonus Poll to prove the first one was "luck" over the fantastic Link..I'm sure there are a ton of MGS/league fans who will do what I'm doing voting for Snake in the final and Draven against Link
If the goal is really to troll the users over there, Draven knocking out all competition so Snake could win his first title will leave them salty as hell that Draven beat the almighty Link then Snake won the final..How will they fathom the "strength of character" and GFaqs math equations that Snake won the contest and they'll complain Draven made it easy for Snake, then in the bonus poll Draven beats Link will really annoy them..It's just toying with the users for Snake to win and reddit completely controlling the contest, 2 days of annoyance for the Link fans

"Remember guys, everyone on GameFAQs cares too much about the character battle! Not like us Reddit users, we don't care at all!"
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Honestly, if Snake wins we should somehow quickly re-vote the bonus poll. Link/Draven makes less sense in a Snake wins scenario. I don't know what you run there though. My vote would be for Snake/Samus but I'd take Link/Snake too. Snake winning and then a bonus poll without the champion would just be weird.
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This whole thing has unexpectedly turned into a psychological warfare. Y'all should have tried to high jack that thread into r/all earlier if it's causing this much of a buzz.

Draven wins and my Expert points will be looking great, Snake wins and Snake is immortalized. win/win for me. They should obviously rally for Samus for maximum jimmy rustlification.

How will they fathom the "strength of character" and GFaqs math equations

I think this is the worst thing. How bitter a human being do you have to be to try and fundamentally affect the contest stats just to cause minor inconvenience to GameFAQs users? Voting Draven or Snake or whoever is one thing, but voting just to confuse the ~50 people who pay any attention to the stats, trying to "ruin" or create "false" stats just to "enrage" them...it's beyond fathoming. I can't understand being so...so malignantly bitter against a group of people you've never met.
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bring it LoL guys, rally Snake to victory
there will be no tears shed here!

They missed the boat already. The best trolling they could have done is rally Cloud to victory. Now that would enrage the Link fanboys!
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In the essentially 0% chance that Snake (or Samus) beats Draven, the bonus poll would almost have to be Link v Snake/Samus. You can't ignore something that bonkers.

Edit: Actually, thinking for more than a microsecond on Samus, might as well keep it Link/Draven in that case. I don't think Samus fans would really enjoy an SFF beatdown like that.
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XIII_rocks posted...

How will they fathom the "strength of character" and GFaqs math equations

I think this is the worst thing. How bitter a human being do you have to be to try and fundamentally affect the contest stats just to cause minor inconvenience to GameFAQs users? Voting Draven or Snake or whoever is one thing, but voting just to confuse the ~50 people who pay any attention to the stats, trying to "ruin" or create "false" stats just to "enrage" them...it's beyond fathoming. I can't understand being so...so malignantly bitter against a group of people you've never met.

also I think they missed the part where the x-stats are already worthless

From: XIII_rocks | #405
I can't understand being so...so malignantly bitter against a group of people you've never met.

Not even that, but the primary reason for doing it is just to troll. Not that they're doing it because they like it, which may unintentionally troll some people as a side effect, but purposely doing it just to mess with those people.

And also putting so much time, effort, and thought into doing it, while denying doing so and constantly accusing the other people of doing it instead. It's like an elementary school argument, except they're the only ones arguing.
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also I think they missed the part where the x-stats are already worthless

That too

Not even that, but the primary reason for doing it is just to troll. Not that they're doing it because they like it, which may unintentionally troll some people as a side effect, but purposely doing it just to mess with those people.

To be fair this does not apply to the vast, vast majority of that community. But I think their minority was cruelly exposed in the opening minutes of the last round, where they were very obviously enraged by the fact that they would not be able to put the rally topics up to further troll b8. That blew me away - not only were they only making the rally threads to troll, they were angered by the fact that they wouldn't be able to do it today. Like they needed that trolling fix. I mean, what?
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The almost-neutral topic title is a big big liability to Draven. If it were Shepard instead of Samus, Snake might have a shot here.
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Karma Hunter posted...

In the essentially 0% chance that Snake (or Samus) beats Draven, the bonus poll would almost have to be Link v Snake/Samus. You can't ignore something that bonkers.

Edit: Actually, thinking for more than a microsecond on Samus, might as well keep it Link/Draven in that case. I don't think Samus fans would really enjoy an SFF beatdown like that.

If Samus somehow won I'd still say Samus/Snake. Need to get the champion in the bonus poll somehow! Link is obviously a no-go there. Snake though, Link/Snake is probably the easy go-to. Honestly, wouldn't be shocked to see Link go down there. Snake would have to be super-charged in this scenario, I'd probably go as far as to consider Snake the favorite!
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Fanboyism aside, I don't think whatever backfire percentage increase it has is gonna be nearly enough. This is probably a Mewtwo/Sephiroth-style beatdown or worse.
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Yeah, if we're going on the record here, I don't think Snake comes that close here. I'm expecting possibly the strongest Draven yet (argh R2 Draven so maybe not) and what's Snake supposed to do there?
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I have more faith in Snake beating rallied Draven than I do him beating Link nowadays. It is impossible to overstate how soul-crushing that 50k+ vote performance was. <_<
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So I am completely undecided about how to vote tonight.

Draven: Ensure no "normal" character other than Link gets a championship for another year.

Snake: The best hope against Draven. And because losing to Samus would be a really sad ending to a 9 year arc of contest history, in which Snake has come from being the bottom of the Noble Nine to Link's top challenger. To lose to Samus now would be a huge slap in the face to everything Snake has done since their last match in 2006. I may not like Snake, but that is too cruel.

Samus: My favorite character out of these 3.
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Link can't possibly bring that performance against Snake, can he?

can he?
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I'm not willing to bet he won't!
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It occurred to me that if Devin Morgan somehow gets the final match wrong (maybe switches Snake and Samus), then any account that picks Draven to win will automatically beat his score and gain 10 karma.
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With what? ROT-13? -CJayC

clearly SBAllen should petition the reddit admins to host a Link vs Draven 24 hour poll on the front page of reddit itself /kappa

xp1337 posted...

Yeah, if we're going on the record here, I don't think Snake comes that close here. I'm expecting possibly the strongest Draven yet (argh R2 Draven so maybe not) and what's Snake supposed to do there?

I think Snake has a good enough base strength to cut a huge portion of Draven's lead and finish around Jak level. Mewtwo was able to cut nearly 3000 votes after the rallies died late that match and he's weaker than Snake or Link.

Draven's chances of losing are under 5%

But I have to go Snake > Draven > Samus anyway because there's no point in finishing in the top 50 if you don't finish in the top 5! The people in the top spots are probably all going with the safe Draven > Snake > Samus

Though maybe Draven > Samus > Snake would be better than Snake > Draven > Samus
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Snake should do better than Mewtwo. Samus is worse than Sephiroth as a 3rd character, but not that much worse- she wouldn't beat him by that much.
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Next year we should nominate Drayden from Pokemon Black.
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tgs2 posted...

xp1337 posted...

Yeah, if we're going on the record here, I don't think Snake comes that close here. I'm expecting possibly the strongest Draven yet (argh R2 Draven so maybe not) and what's Snake supposed to do there?

I think Snake has a good enough base strength to cut a huge portion of Draven's lead and finish around Jak level. Mewtwo was able to cut nearly 3000 votes after the rallies died late that match and he's weaker than Snake or Link.

That's not "coming close" to me! If the lead gets so bad that the Draven rallies can shut themselves down hours early, it wasn't close!
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Holy crap these vote totals are horrific.
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This whole thing has unexpectedly turned into a psychological warfare. Y'all should have tried to high jack that thread into r/all earlier if it's causing this much of a buzz.

It's best that we don't touch the thread, let the LoL guys figure it out.

This is a challenge about self-control, if you rally too hard it goes on reddit/all and Snake/Samus benefit, if you don't rally hard enough it falls off the first page and Draven won't get any votes. Remember this is just a social experiment.
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Points: 179/324 Today's Pick: Link

LeonhartFour posted...

Holy crap these vote totals are horrific.

1337gamerpr0 posted...

the votals that SBAllen deserves

yes this has been noted already

Though maybe Draven > Samus > Snake would be better than Snake > Draven > Samus

It's probably more likely and you don't need a large swing to reach near the top.
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BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 179/324 Today's Pick: Link

You know what would have brought in the votes? Cloud/Crono/Sonic

time to settle this noble nine order once and for all.

sub in sephiroth for cloud if you think that's too much
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I'm calling it, a LoL subreddit mod shuts down the rallies to land #1 on expert challnge #collusion

r/all is probably okay for Draven. The topic title is almost neutral, but not quite neutral. Draven is still the subject and Snake/Samus are his opponents. Draven can probably hold a 40/40/30 split on r/all, which wouldn't have any impact on the match other than inflating the votals and making the percentages closer.
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Yes, I know it's already been said.

But I wanted to say it again because holy crap these vote totals are horrific.
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Then00bAvenger posted...

Draven's chances of losing are under 5%

But I have to go Snake > Draven > Samus anyway because there's no point in finishing in the top 50 if you don't finish in the top 5! The people in the top spots are probably all going with the safe Draven > Snake > Samus

Damn right I am >_> I have no idea how I did this well in the Expert but I don't want to throw it away now!

If things had gone "as normal" and it was Link/Mario/Snake, I'd go all in on Snake against the odds. But...no. Not against Draven.
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Then00bAvenger posted...

Draven's chances of losing are under 5%

But I have to go Snake > Draven > Samus anyway because there's no point in finishing in the top 50 if you don't finish in the top 5! The people in the top spots are probably all going with the safe Draven > Snake > Samus

Though maybe Draven > Samus > Snake would be better than Snake > Draven > Samus

If you're strictly playing the odds and must go with an upset, Draven > Samus > Snake is unequivocally better than Snake > Draven > Samus. I believe Snake should be a solid favorite over Samus for a number of very strong reasons, but it's nothing compared to the overwhelming amount of evidence for Draven being a favorite over Snake.
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I'm tempted to take Draven > Samus > Snake just to try and leap Bacon (and assuming he takes the obvious pick) but I think I'm just sticking with Draven > Snake > Samus. I've gone all these matches without trying to strategically pick like that, need to keep it going one more time!
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red sox 777 posted...

r/all is probably okay for Draven. The topic title is almost neutral, but not quite neutral. Draven is still the subject and Snake/Samus are his opponents. Draven can probably hold a 40/40/30 split on r/all, which wouldn't have any impact on the match other than inflating the votals and making the percentages closer.

damn Draven is a beast, making the percentages add up to over 100%

This would probably never happen but

What if there's a tie? (Draven > Snake = Samus)
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r/all is probably okay for Draven. The topic title is almost neutral, but not quite neutral. Draven is still the subject and Snake/Samus are his opponents. Draven can probably hold a 40/40/30 split on r/all, which wouldn't have any impact on the match other than inflating the votals and making the percentages closer.

I agree Draven still does well, but it will slow down his gains
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BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls
Points: 179/324 Today's Pick: Link

It's like the 2008 bonus poll. Link got 20,000 more votes by himself than he did with Snake, Cloud, and Crono in the poll. Clearly the voters demand more Link, all the time.
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I'm joint tenth, so I'm deciding whether to stay safe and go for Snake for second or take a risk to win and go for Samus.
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snoocete posted...

This would probably never happen but

What if there's a tie? (Draven > Snake = Samus)

I'm genuinely curious about this! We almost got to test it with Kratos Aurion/Boko but missed it. Not sure there'd be a poll extension for a not-winner tie or not. Expert would demand it, but I don't know if Bacon thought that far ahead.
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red sox 777 posted...

r/all is probably okay for Draven. The topic title is almost neutral, but not quite neutral. Draven is still the subject and Snake/Samus are his opponents. Draven can probably hold a 40/40/30 split on r/all, which wouldn't have any impact on the match other than inflating the votals and making the percentages closer.

The biggest problem is probably the picture. I mean, Vincent didn't get much more than half of the votes he would've gotten if he was recognizable in the picture, and this would be worse because Samus and Snake don't appear at all.
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Pathetic.

"For everyone who says they just can't vote for Draven on this one, it isn't about voting for your favorite, it's about trolling gamefaqs.
What's more worth it, your actual favorite character winning a contest that everyone will forget about in 3 days or making a bunch of wound up fanboys freak out and provide us with hilarity?"

"F***. I have to choose between Draven and Solid Snake?
This is a tough one.
-Clicks Draven-
Just so I can go read the gamefaqs boards tomorrow and let the hate flow through me."

Everybody gets pointz
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red sox 777 posted...

It's like the 2008 bonus poll. Link got 20,000 more votes by himself than he did with Snake, Cloud, and Crono in the poll. Clearly the voters demand more Link, all the time.

yeah if we had 2008 votals, Link would have laughed at Draven the whole way

The picture thing is a small but actually quite notable advantage that Link had in Link/Draven. The thread was Draven-centric but Link's Hylian mug was right there, in your face.

Link won't have that in the bonus match - Draven is listed first and his picture will be the one displayed instead.
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The thing about this "I WANT TEARS" stuff is like...hasn't it basically all dried up at this point? Like hasn't everyone just been utterly exhausted by Draven's previous 2 matches and now just expect an easy thrashing for Draven to end the contest? The whining topics will appear either way, but unless Allen f***s up again, I doubt it's going to be anything severe. Lot of people going to be needing their troll fix tomorrow methinks.
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