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Draven, prepare yourself. ~*creativename's contest site (all things contest!)*~ www.gamefaqscontests.com ~*The Board 8 Wiki (lots of useful contest and board information, including all past Post-Contest Analysis from Ulti, transience, Ed Bellis and others)*~ http://board8.wikia.com/ ~*List of All Polls (a search bar is at the bottom)*~ http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/index.html ~*NGamer64's Archive Sites (good stuff!) and (LOL) X-Stats Sim (some offensive language)*~ http://www.thengamer.com/ http://thengamer.com/xstats ~*GameFAQs Contests Hall of Fame*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Hall_of_Fame http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/GameFAQs_Contests_Match_Hall_of_Fame ~*Character Contest Histories*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Contest_Histories ~*Simple Explanation of Extrapolated Standings*~ A = Strongest Character B = Character Weaker than A C = Character Weaker than B To figure out a character's Xsts Percentage ---> [(CvB)(BvA)]/50 = CvA To compare how C would do against B ---> [(CvA)/(BvA)]*50 = CvB To figure out how B would do against A ---> [(CvA)/(CvB)]*50 = BvA ~*All the Match Pics*~ http://www.gamefaqscontests.com/gallery/index.php ~*Leonhart4's Trend Charts*~ https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?hl=en&key=tOGmynfNIiNy5VukpEF-PdA&hl=en#gid=0 ~*Daily Vote Trends - An Explanation for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Daily_Vote_Trends ~*Acronyms and Percentages for Dummies*~ http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/Acronyms_and_Percentages ~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~ SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense. Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Oracle prediction topic for Draven/Link: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67233533 Also, you should post predictions for tonight's bonus match in this topic: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67230594 --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
Is
the board even going to be able to gin up the kind of rallying they did
for Link last time? There seems to be a lot of Draven fatigue now. Then again there may be fatigue on the other end, so who knows. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Draven
stood over Snake, axe raised to decapitate. Tens of thousands thronged
the streets and balconies around the Plaza of Triumph, celebrating the
overthrow of their tyrant. No less than 20 Pikachus were maintaining an
electric ring around Snake and Draven. Draven: Solid Snake, you have been judged guilty of oppressing this land for 11 years. You have waged incessant war for sport, killed millions for fun, and enslaved billions. You attempted to stop my revolution against your tyranny by dropping a nuclear warhead on the Fortress of Victory. Of course I survived. Crowd: Death to the dictator! Draven: Hear them call out for your blood. Crowd: DEATH! Draven: Now, I sentence you to die! Draven lifted back the axe and prepared to swing it home. Just then, a blinding beam of light flashed through the sky, and a voice called out, "STOP!" A figure in green strode through the crowd toward the plaza, the throngs of people parting like a wave before him. Draven: I killed you! I watched you die! I erased all memory of you! You don't exist. You never existed! Link unsheathed his sword. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Yeah, most likely it'll be anticlimactic. |
So
uh, Samus fans and Snake-haters. (not that I'm the latter) If Samus
somehow beats Snake in the finals, we need to come up with a way to be
completely insufferable about it. Any ideas? --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
I don't know if it was mentioned, but, with Pikachu getting second place over Squirtle, was it enough for Crono > Cloud? --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Karma Hunter posted... Is the board even going to be able to gin up the kind of rallying they did for Link last time? There seems to be a lot of Draven fatigue now. depends on how mentally insane the LoL subreddit people are technically the bonus match doesn't matter from their end, but.... |
If
Samus beats Snake, I'll admit that it looks hopeless for any
conventional character to beat Link anytime in the foreseeable future. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
AxemRedRanger posted... So uh, Samus fans and Snake-haters. (not that I'm the latter) If Samus somehow beats Snake in the finals, we need to come up with a way to be completely insufferable about it. I recommend nanomachine references. Edit: Also, 10,000 hours in mspaint - http://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/4-28/YCs53L19Pj-8.png http://drawception.com/pub/panels/2012/4-28/YCs53L19Pj-6.png --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
So
Pokemon is going to LFF itself again for our next bonus match. That's
really disappointing. I'd like to see one of Mewtwo or Pikachu face Mega
Man head on. --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima SuperNiceDog: Bracket: Good, Taste: Bad |
Wait, we actually chose to have another Draven match? *facepalm* --- GT: wgt07 Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
pirate109 posted... Wait, we actually chose to have another Draven match? *facepalm* what if Draven loses the final and wins the bonus *gasp* |
red sox 777 posted... If Samus beats Snake, I'll admit that it looks hopeless for any conventional character to beat Link anytime in the foreseeable future. Eh, even if Snake were to blow out Samus I wouldn't say it's a good result for him, and likewise if Samus could do the same to Snake. Draven pollutes that match more than any other result in the contest... other than Mewtwo/Sephiroth, I suppose. Now that still doesn't mean it's not hopeless for a conventional character to challenge Link, but that's a separate issue. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
1337gamerpr0 posted... pirate109 posted...Wait, we actually chose to have another Draven match? *facepalm* If anything, it will be because Reddit doesn't care enough about the bonus match to rally for it. --- Up you go! |
If Draven wins the final match and loses the bonus match he will be the 3rd winner of a contest that just does that. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
GentlemenCho posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...pirate109 posted...Wait, we actually chose to have another Draven match? *facepalm* um, did you actually read my post |
Doesn't
really matter what the result is. It will be decided entirely by
whether reddit can be bothered to rally for another match after the
final. Nothing interesting about that. --- GT: wgt07 Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
pirate109 posted... Doesn't really matter what the result is. It will be decided entirely by whether reddit can be bothered to rally for another match after the final. Nothing interesting about that. no rallies: we get to see base strength Draven for once rallies: .....idk, confirmation that these people are insane? |
We clearly want to see Draven have rallies and Link win anyway. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
I
just realized that poll results page for the Draven/Link match looks
different when you are using Throwback Mode. It seems like Bacon has
managed to actually modify the existing poll results page to work with
just 2 characters: http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5267 So it's possible for someone to link to the poll results page to rally for Draven. --- Luster Soldier --- ~Shield Bearer~ | ~Data Analyst~ Popular at school, but not as cool as SuperNiceDog, Guru Champ! |
-LusterSoldier- posted... I just realized that poll results page for the Draven/Link match looks different when you are using Throwback Mode. It seems like Bacon has managed to actually modify the existing poll results page to work with just 2 characters: We also learn that Bacon has given up on Mega Man. --- ~War~ |
Well, so much for Other M hurting Samus's street cred. Hopefully Mega Man looks better by the end. Europe going to sleep will surely help. I'm surprised he isn't giving Samus more of a fight though; he certainly looked golden last round. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
Adjusting
for the first two hours of MM rallies and splitting Red's vote intake
55/45 Samus gets very close to 60% in 1v1 with MM. |
FranzyvonKarma posted... Bacon has given up on Mega Man. It seems to be a theme for Mega Man. First Capcom, now Allen. --- “The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees opportunity in every difficulty." -Winston Churchill |
TheCodeisBosco posted... Well, so much for Other M hurting Samus's street cred. The way the board was, I'm hoping a lot of people took MM in their expert. Then I might make it back to the leaderboard with Samus > MM > Red. --- GT: wgt07 Metroid Prime, Super Meat Boy speed runs: http://www.youtube.com/user/wgtan01 |
I'm
pretty sure most, if not all the people who took MM in Expert did it as
a desperation move to jump ahead of the pack. Samus was still the very
solid Oracle favorite. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
swirIdude posted... So Pokemon is going to LFF itself again for our next bonus match. That's really disappointing. I'd like to see one of Mewtwo or Pikachu face Mega Man head on. Eh, it'll still be interesting. Mewtwo vs Pikachu may be a nice gauge of how strong Mewtwo is, and perhaps how much of his strength was bandwagoning or rallies or whatever. It'll also serve as a nice way to compare Mega Man and Snake, as I doubt Mewtwo will really differ that much from Squirtle. It'll also give a nice way to size up Snake vs Samus right before the actual match, so the few people still invested in the Expert Challenge may appreciate the match. Draven/Link will be delightfully nuts, though. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Mega Man is now closer to Red than he is to Samus. Ouch. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
1337gamerpr0 posted... no rallies: we get to see base strength Draven for once Didn't we already see base Draven be around Sephiroth's level during the first couple hours of his last match, before his rally was restored on reddit? He's definitely gained a lot of momentum even among GameFAQs voters. To go from losing to Chie to being even with Sephiroth even without his rallies. Even if redditors completely abandon him next contest, he'll still be elite-level. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Not_Wylvane posted... 1337gamerpr0 posted...no rallies: we get to see base strength Draven for once no, he was getting doubled by Sephiroth without them |
to be specific, the last few hours are far more indicative than the first few hours for his natural strength |
Link vs. Draven bonus match, huh. I'm not really sure I'm up for doing this again. --- http://img.imgcake.com/leonhjpguz.jpg |
48 hours of Draven. The perfect time to create an Official Board 8 Poll on whether to add Draven to the Noble Nine to replace the voted-out Crono, Mario, Sonic, Cloud, Link, and Sephiroth! --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
Yeah
too much Draven fatigue. It'll also be hard to retain the excitement of
the first match, plus we don't even know if anyside will bother with a
full out rally(if a rally is even needed for Link). Also base Draven is still bad, if the final hour(s?) of Draven/Mewtwo/Sephiroth was any indication. --- http://i.imgur.com/32RNLnc.gif |
I
don't know, I think in a bonus match like this, GameFAQs itself will
opt more for Draven than Link than usual (Link will still win the
GameFAQs vote, but it'd be a lot closer than it'd be otherwise).
GameFAQs hating Draven is more a Board 8 opinion, and quite a few voters
have jumped on his bandwagon considering how much he's increased in
base strength since his first match pre-rally. I'd take Draven to score 45% on Link without rallies at this point. --- Current Let's Play: Final Fantasy II - http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3557012 Previous: http://lparchive.org/author/mega64 |
It
seems like it should be an easy Link victory (since people will care
less and might not even rally) but everyone was saying LSD's result was
obvious and it wouldn't even be close and it resulted in a ridiculous
close match (with DRAMA), so who knows what will happen. |
Not_Wylvane posted... I don't know, I think in a bonus match like this, GameFAQs itself will opt more for Draven than Link than usual (Link will still win the GameFAQs vote, but it'd be a lot closer than it'd be otherwise). GameFAQs hating Draven is more a Board 8 opinion, and quite a few voters have jumped on his bandwagon considering how much he's increased in base strength since his first match pre-rally. That's way optimistic. Draven is probably closer to 20-25% BL, tops. Still respectable, but not even close to being elite. --- http://i.imgur.com/PL5UKJj.png Bearer of the Mark of Kan. |
I
think it's a mistake to try to extrapolate even through unrallied
Draven. People who care about him on this site are definitely a minority
and the majority probably hasn't even heard of him, but the LoL board
still does get a lot of traffic and the people who play his game are
obsessive. I figure unrallied Draven is like World of Warcraft; pretty
high floor considering how terrible he would be 1-on-1, but extremely
low ceiling. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
AxemRedRanger posted... I think it's a mistake to try to extrapolate even through unrallied Draven. People who care about him on this site are definitely a minority and the majority probably hasn't even heard of him, but the LoL board still does get a lot of traffic and the people who play his game are obsessive. I figure unrallied Draven is like World of Warcraft; pretty high floor considering how terrible he would be 1-on-1, but extremely low ceiling. I don't think so; Draven is pretty awful. He's garnered up something of a bandwagon through this contest, but even that is only enough to go even with an LPFed Shepard absent any rallies while being heavily bandwagoned and soaking up almost every Link anti-vote in sight. That's... just not good. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Not_Wylvane posted... I'd take Draven to score 45% on Link without rallies at this point. I know you're trolling but LOL --- "So cold. I am always by your side." "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!" |
LeonhartFour posted... Not_Wylvane posted...I'd take Draven to score 45% on Link without rallies at this point. getting doubled by Sephiroth-->45% on Link quick, someone alert ExTha |
Mega Man vs Pikachu vs Mewtwo is our bonus match? Why? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
Lopen posted... Mega Man vs Pikachu vs Mewtwo is our bonus match? Why? RallyFAQs! If only you people hadn't rallied for Mega Man, we could've had the Mewtwo/Pikachu/Charizard match everyone was clamoring for! --- http://img571.imageshack.us/img571/9919/leonhart.png |
Lopen posted... Mega Man vs Pikachu vs Mewtwo is our bonus match? Why? That's the "runner ups" match. |
Karma Hunter posted... AxemRedRanger posted...Draven being really damn bad would not be contradictory with him having a relatively high floor when you take into account his level of badness. That he only got in the low-20s against Jak and Chie despite me thinking he has said floor only makes him look worse.I think it's a mistake to try to extrapolate even through unrallied Draven. People who care about him on this site are definitely a minority and the majority probably hasn't even heard of him, but the LoL board still does get a lot of traffic and the people who play his game are obsessive. I figure unrallied Draven is like World of Warcraft; pretty high floor considering how terrible he would be 1-on-1, but extremely low ceiling. I'd take Jade Curtiss > unrallied Draven. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
He
should've had a match between all the third place entrants instead
that'd be more int-- oh wait it'd still be two Pokemon and a third guy
what have we done to deserve this --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! |
The Pokemon should've won and we wouldn't be in this situation! |
yeah, this contest's problem is that the Pokemon just didn't win enough --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
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