Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1172

#201 | WhiteLens | Posted 9/12/2013 10:49:45 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Then again, if Snake IS Link tier, then maybe he can channel that support! Someone Twiiter Hideo Kojima he'd retweet it!


Someone get ready to convince the guy.
https://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN

Or maybe if someone knew Japanese, it'd be a lot more convincing.
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#202 | mumbo230 | Posted 9/12/2013 10:49:52 PM | message detail
Mega Man defeated Charizard in that beautiful match and started the tide that wiped out the Poke-domination. He's been to the semifinals many times but never quite climbed that hill into the finals that every other Noble Niner besides Sonic (I consider the male bracket final as a semifinal really) has done at least once.

Snake has been knocking on the door of Character Battle greatness, as runner-up in CBV and CBVII, and in the top four a bunch more times after that, but he's never quite made it to the mountaintop. I'd love to see him cement his place among the champions at last.

Snake and Mega Man both have great stories, and I'd love to see either finally climb the mountain. Samus I don't care so much about, she won CBV already and she's had an easy and unremarkable run this year. Seeing Snake and Mega Man go against the greatest of all-time, Link, and for one of them to emerge victorious over the champ would have been so awesome.

Of course, those great stories are completely ruined by the League of Draaaaaaven.
#203 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/12/2013 10:50:09 PM | message detail
Snake is not going to beat Draven, even if Samus (or Mega Man) folds, which they won't. The focus in the final match is going to be the fight for 2nd.
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#204 | SnoicFactor | Posted 9/12/2013 10:50:35 PM | message detail
Pretty pathetic that MM can't beat Samus with Red there..
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#205 | xp1337 | Posted 9/12/2013 10:51:31 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
Snake is not going to beat Draven, even if Samus (or Mega Man) folds, which they won't. The focus in the final match is going to be the fight for 2nd.

Probably not going to be much a fight!

I imagine the site will pick one fairly quickly and that'll be it. And it should be Snake.
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#206 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 10:52:25 PM | message detail
Yeah, no one cares what the board thinks. The site's attention will be on Draven. Either Snake or Samus/Mega Man will get the initial push and that will be that. LPF all the way for the other one.
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#207 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/12/2013 10:53:12 PM | message detail
God finally on that Expert Leaderboard... and it is all thanks to Pikachu.

Pikachu > Sora and Pikachu > Squirtle.

Also Red doing a couple percent less than I expected. I knew he wouldn't be as dominating as an actual pokémon, plus there are two stronger characters than him in the poll. I don't think Pokémon has been in that position before, except maybe Mewtwo where normally we'd say 1v1 Bowser > Mewtwo and Sonic > Mewtwo.
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#208 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 9/12/2013 10:53:27 PM | message detail
Save us Kojima and AJ Lee.
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#209 | xp1337 | Posted 9/12/2013 10:53:45 PM | message detail
The board vote could help influence who gets picked!
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#210 | BlitzKing900 | Posted 9/12/2013 10:56:09 PM | message detail | (edited)
Konami/MGS facebook pages too? Like MGS one has over 1million subscribers I think.
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#211 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 10:54:44 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
The board vote could help influence who gets picked!


Well, yes, but the site won't actually care that the board did that. <_<
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#212 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/12/2013 10:55:30 PM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
God finally on that Expert Leaderboard... and it is all thanks to Pikachu.

Pikachu > Sora and Pikachu > Squirtle.

Also Red doing a couple percent less than I expected. I knew he wouldn't be as dominating as an actual pokémon, plus there are two stronger characters than him in the poll. I don't think Pokémon has been in that position before, except maybe Mewtwo where normally we'd say 1v1 Bowser > Mewtwo and Sonic > Mewtwo.


I dropped off the leaderboard again when I screwed up the Kefka/GlaDOS mathcup. Been running around 30-50 points behind since then, and just barely got back on the board at spot 48 after the last match. I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that a lot of the leaderboard picks are for Mega Man, since I took Samus in first.
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#213 | Pentrox | Posted 9/12/2013 10:58:08 PM | message detail
Samus is equalizing next update
#214 | creativename | Posted 9/12/2013 11:00:04 PM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
Pretty pathetic that MM can't beat Samus with Red there..

No reason to believe Red hurts Samus disproportionately.

It's been shown time and again that Pokemon is its own fanbase, and doesn't really overlap with anything much.

The only overlap it has is "GameFAQs overlap", e.g. Mewtwo/Sephiroth vs. Draven. But obviously that's not an overlap that will happen often!

Pokemon is it's own thing and I doubt Red is affecting the outcome of this match.
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#215 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:00:22 PM | message detail
Im so sad too see MM is losing
I woke up when he had 200 lead and checked again now
I knew it would happen because hecalways starts strong and then drops in the night and recovers near the end of the match
But to see him losing the lead so early...sad
#216 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/12/2013 11:02:26 PM | message detail
Yay! Probably next update, maybe the 2:10 update at worst. So-so character, awful games, do not want.
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#217 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 11:03:59 PM | message detail
Mega Man's really not doing that badly. Ahead of where he was on Charizard and you've got to figure Charizard's day vote is a lot better than Samus's.

...bigger problem is because he was bandwagoned so hard he can fall a lot harder. Still, not an impossibility for him to win even now.
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#218 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/12/2013 11:04:16 PM | message detail
we saw it last time too. Mega Man losing the lead was inevitable when Europe's right there. so long as he keeps it close through the day, he can - will - make the comeback.
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#219 | JustForFun1988 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:04:33 PM | message detail
Link, Pokemon and Megaman only looked good through the power of RALLYING. The thing is that Snake looked good in all of his matches despite being unrallied.

WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THE TRUE POWER of RALLIED SNAKE.
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#220 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/12/2013 11:05:03 PM | message detail
KH'D
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#221 | swordz9 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:06:09 PM | message detail
Mega Man beating Charizard was disappointing for me, but I'm probably in the minority there with all this anti-Pokemon up in here.
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#222 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/12/2013 11:07:06 PM | message detail
Mega Man is already losing Canada and is ahead by less than 1.5% in U.S. I assume he'll fall more in the U.S. as that opening bandwagon becomes a lesser share of the total votes.

Mega Man is probably screwed absent rallies.
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#223 | Zylothewolf | Posted 9/12/2013 11:07:28 PM | message detail
We really shouldn't allow UK to vote in Mega Man matches. He only got 15% there.
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#224 | Pentrox | Posted 9/12/2013 11:08:23 PM | message detail
somebody try to tweet capcom people >___>
#225 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:08:31 PM | message detail
It's gonna be much harder to make a comeback against Samus than Charizard, of course. But for reference, Charizard's peak lead was around noon with a bit over 600 votes. If Mega Man can keep it below that, why not?
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#226 | xp1337 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:10:01 PM | message detail
Zylothewolf posted...
We really shouldn't allow UK to vote in Mega Man matches. He only got 15% there.

Wyoming doing its best UK impression.
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#227 | Pentrox | Posted 9/12/2013 11:12:01 PM | message detail
Will the day vote benefit Megaman whatsoever? Also Megaman managed to win just a little this last update.
#228 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/12/2013 11:12:45 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Mega Man is already losing Canada and is ahead by less than 1.5% in U.S. I assume he'll fall more in the U.S. as that opening bandwagon becomes a lesser share of the total votes.

Mega Man is probably screwed absent rallies.


Mega Man outrallied a Pokemon. You should have some faith in his rally ability.
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#229 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 11:14:07 PM | message detail
Mega Man did outrally Charizard, but that was a little like catching lightning in a bottle. People on this board really went all out for him and got some pretty popular Facebook pages to shill for the Blue Bomber.

Not sure if they want it bad enough today.
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#230 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/12/2013 11:14:11 PM | message detail
he didn't win anything this last update, he just stalled.
though considering he's in his weakest time period right now, that's about the best he can ask for, yes.
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#231 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 11:15:17 PM | message detail
There it is.

Authorization approved.
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#232 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:15:33 PM | message detail
Glad to see MM on the lead, but the trends are against him. He'll need some rallying. Not a huge amount though. MM's 2nd half is actually better than his first despite the powerful 4 hours at the start. Then several hours of pain.
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#233 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/12/2013 11:16:11 PM | message detail
I thought that was Megaman adding 7 votes to his lead for a second
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#234 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:16:12 PM | message detail
Samus Aran
36.39%
4088 Votes

Pokemon Trainer Red
27.4%
3078 Votes

Mega Man
36.22%
4069 Votes
Your Pick
Total Votes: 11235
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#235 | GoaFan77 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:16:12 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
SnoicFactor posted...
Pretty pathetic that MM can't beat Samus with Red there..

No reason to believe Red hurts Samus disproportionately.

It's been shown time and again that Pokemon is its own fanbase, and doesn't really overlap with anything much.

The only overlap it has is "GameFAQs overlap", e.g. Mewtwo/Sephiroth vs. Draven. But obviously that's not an overlap that will happen often!

Pokemon is it's own thing and I doubt Red is affecting the outcome of this match.


Without a Pokemon character in the match though Pokemon fans on Gamefaqs might be a bit more willing to vote for the Nintendo character compared to others though.
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#236 | Pentrox | Posted 9/12/2013 11:16:25 PM | message detail
The Reddit thread also helped Megaman alot, it was linking to the Charizard match for a couple hours.
#237 | xp1337 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:16:28 PM | message detail
Mega Man isn't the only one who gains upgrades from his defeated foes.

Samus clearly picking up a night vote from FFVII.

it's over
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#238 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/12/2013 11:18:24 PM | message detail
pfft.
he's got plenty of CUTMAN power.
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#239 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/12/2013 11:18:57 PM | message detail
Pentrox posted...
The Reddit thread also helped Megaman alot, it was linking to the Charizard match for a couple hours.


There's nowhere on reddit that would help Mega Man significantly at all. His subreddits are desolate wastelands. reddit was a ridiculous net negative for him considering r/pokemon.
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#240 | Denzokuken | Posted 9/12/2013 11:19:09 PM | message detail
Imagine how many more matches Mega Man would have won if Capcom gave a damn about Europe.
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#241 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/12/2013 11:19:38 PM | message detail
Pentrox posted...
The Reddit thread also helped Megaman alot, it was linking to the Charizard match for a couple hours.


...So, uh, guys, think it's a good idea to put up the LoL rally topic myself with a couple hours to spare if things are close?
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#242 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:22:05 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Mega Man did outrally Charizard, but that was a little like catching lightning in a bottle. People on this board really went all out for him and got some pretty popular Facebook pages to shill for the Blue Bomber.

Not sure if they want it bad enough today.


I do!
But it doesn't look possible like last time
If the lead peaks at around 500-600 like against Charizard,then I will start trying to rally
As it looks like now,Samus will extend her lead to..at least 1000
This is going to be a long night
#243 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/12/2013 11:22:08 PM | message detail
So does anyone else think that Mega Man won't see the lead from this point on?
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#244 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:22:23 PM | message detail
Haven't done trend projections and can't really on a phone, but natural trends probably have Samus winning around 51/49. With these votals, that's only about 700 votes. 1000 to be generous to Samus. Well within range of rallying.
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#245 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:23:00 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Pentrox posted...
The Reddit thread also helped Megaman alot, it was linking to the Charizard match for a couple hours.


...So, uh, guys, think it's a good idea to put up the LoL rally topic myself with a couple hours to spare if things are close?


What?
There is no match after this
There is going to be 1 day break
#246 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:23:08 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Pentrox posted...
The Reddit thread also helped Megaman alot, it was linking to the Charizard match for a couple hours.


...So, uh, guys, think it's a good idea to put up the LoL rally topic myself with a couple hours to spare if things are close?


only if you include Snake/(Samus/Mega Man) in the title
#247 | Qwaar | Posted 9/12/2013 11:23:56 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
So does anyone else think that Mega Man won't see the lead from this point on?


Hopefully. My fellow country people will start waking up and voting soon. MM will probably rally towards the end of the match though, so Samus need to build up a good lead.
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#248 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/12/2013 11:23:57 PM | message detail
...man. actually since Mega Man is the only non-Nintendo guy in this poll, if ralliers truly want to kill NintendoFAQs, they should vote for him.

zero Nintendo characters in the finals.
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#249 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/12/2013 11:27:56 PM | message detail | (edited)
Is Mega Man's day vote that much better than Samus's?

EDIT: Also, ~50K votes for the Snake match... dunno how much that top bar is doing!
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#250 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/12/2013 11:28:00 PM | message detail
I think it's just that MM night vote is terrible