Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1170

#351 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:10:27 PM | message detail
I am not so impressed by Snake here. Cloud still ended up at 42% on Squirtle and Leon despite a massive rally against him. Without it, he probably ends up at 46-47%. Squirtle + Leon is stronger than Squirtle + Pikachu. Snake really should break 50% here.
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#352 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 9:10:34 PM | message detail
Guys stop talking about the "real finals" like a weak child who knows hes lost. The real finals is Snake vs Draven and thats all their is to it.
#353 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:11:20 PM | message detail
He's coming for chu next, Snake!
#354 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2013 9:11:34 PM | message detail
LinkFTMFW posted...
Guys stop talking about the "real finals" like a weak child who knows hes lost. The real finals is Snake vs Draven and thats all their is to it.


uh what? Our admin has given them full run to determine things, they've already determined Draven will win, so we're focused on a match where the outcome is still in doubt
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#355 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:11:52 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake should not be expected to hold over 50% here. The fact that he's there at all is a godslaying showing. This is PIKACHU AND SQUIRTLE.


And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1
#356 | tgs2 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:01 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I am not so impressed by Snake here. Cloud still ended up at 42% on Squirtle and Leon despite a massive rally against him. Without it, he probably ends up at 46-47%. Squirtle + Leon is stronger than Squirtle + Pikachu. Snake really should break 50% here.


Leon=Crono? Okay.
#357 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:05 PM | message detail
Holding Snake under 50% is impressive enough for me. Even with two of them, half the voters pick Pokemon over Snake.
#358 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:07 PM | message detail
Score-Brackets-% Right
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#359 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:11 PM | message detail
Draven happened for a 4th time.

25 people fell off the Top 49. dimi161, FFaddict1313, LordoftheMorons, Not_Wylvane, Xcarvenger, _Yonex_, Ex2, FFIXOwner, Flux_Master, Kirbydamasta, LordArcadio, OFool, SmartMuffin, Tirofog, wishiwasdead, YetAnothrShadow, Axl_Rose_85, Jaqen19, Kibago, Lucky_Gamer, mrdean55, Not_Dave, Robazoid, SanityLapse and Semipermeable did not have Draven winning.

23 got it wrong and survived. kenrmcha, AdisEvil, Flock_Masta_P, SpikeSetsFire, strikerkid, ChrisHansen59, kinsho3, BigGameKingJame, Gameman54, reddevils5000, Amyson, htaeD, CarveyFAQs, demphra, edwardsharpe, hoangvin, Kotetsu534, Mr_Big_Boss, NeoElfboy, yoyoyoyrlozer, Crypt0zoologist, metroidcomposit and RRRamos95 also did not have Draven winning.

Current first place FlyEaglesFly10 jumps from 22nd place to first with a correct Draven pick.
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#360 | swirIdude | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:11 PM | message detail
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#361 | pjbasis | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:21 PM | message detail
Even Pokemon follows the rules of main character wins huh?

Thought squirtle being more loved by the fanbase might work out here. Are they stronger than Charizard?
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#362 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:30 PM | message detail
No, Crono >>> Leon. But Pikachu doesn't add much to Squirtle. It's the same fanbase.
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#363 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:37 PM | message detail
LinkFTMFW posted...
Guys stop talking about the "real finals" like a weak child who knows hes lost. The real finals is Snake vs Draven and thats all their is to it.


Don't forget about Mega Man! :P
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#364 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:57 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Squirtle + Leon is stronger than Squirtle + Pikachu.


Not convinced by that at all, especially with an LPFed Leon. Pokefanbase isn't THAT droneish.
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#365 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 9:12:59 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
LinkFTMFW posted...
Guys stop talking about the "real finals" like a weak child who knows hes lost. The real finals is Snake vs Draven and thats all their is to it.


uh what? Our admin has given them full run to determine things, they've already determined Draven will win, so we're focused on a match where the outcome is still in doubt


Snake/ Draven is in doubt. this is the defeatist attitude im talking about.
#366 | pjbasis | Posted 9/11/2013 9:13:11 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...

And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1


No one LFFS 100%. Not even close
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#367 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:13:32 PM | message detail
Squirtle learned earthquake.
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#368 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 9:13:52 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake should not be expected to hold over 50% here. The fact that he's there at all is a godslaying showing. This is PIKACHU AND SQUIRTLE.


And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1


Even with the heaviest overlap you can posit it's not even really that close.
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#369 | -Zelmor- | Posted 9/11/2013 9:14:10 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Snake should not be expected to hold over 50% here. The fact that he's there at all is a godslaying showing. This is PIKACHU AND SQUIRTLE.


And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1


No such thing as 100% overlapping though, Snake would beat either of them comfortably.
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#370 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 9:14:13 PM | message detail
oh god. they're gonna cannibalize each other and each get 30%, aren't they.
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#371 | Qwaar | Posted 9/11/2013 9:14:16 PM | message detail
Damn it Pikachu! Fight!
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#372 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/11/2013 9:15:07 PM | message detail
I freaking knew that update was going to happen. Some butt-munch is probably out rallying Squirtle right now, I'll bet.
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#373 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 9:15:07 PM | message detail
Haha, go Squirtle!
#374 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:16:36 PM | message detail | (edited)
pjbasis posted...
Nanis23 posted...

And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1


No one LFFS 100%. Not even close


This is the most brutal LFF ever
The only thing that comes close is X Zero and we have seen how MM crushed Zero when needed

This is 50-50 split
#375 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:15:53 PM | message detail
Solid Snake
49.98%
1122 Votes
Your Pick

Squirtle
25.35%
569 Votes

Pikachu
24.68%
554 Votes
Total Votes: 2245
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#376 | BK_Sheikah00 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:15:54 PM | message detail
What do we need here for Crono > Cloud?
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#377 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:16:09 PM | message detail
Oh Pokemon fanbase! See the ruin ye have wrought upon yourselves. I guess the Zelda fanbase is still the best at turning out the vote and voting strategically.
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#378 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/11/2013 9:16:20 PM | message detail
Rallying Squirtle against Pikachu? Sounds like Civil War
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#379 | BlAcK TuRtLe | Posted 9/11/2013 9:16:33 PM | message detail
If Mega Man + Zero can 60-40 Charizard, I can't see why Snake can't 50-50 Squirtle and Pikachu. This is a pretty ho-hum performance for Snake.
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#380 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:16:44 PM | message detail
Oh God DAMN it, Pikachu.
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#381 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 9:17:10 PM | message detail
Pikachu has the cute "im clueless about the contest and just voting because i know him vote" on lock and squirtle has a bunch of trolls fans and contrarians voting for him. the problem is pikachu is going to siphon a bunch oif votes no matter what because...hes pikachu.
#382 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/11/2013 9:17:25 PM | message detail
So Devin Morgan either didn't pick, or literally had Sephiroth over Mewtwo.
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#383 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 9:17:33 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
pjbasis posted...
Nanis23 posted...

And yet it somehow implies they would beat Snake 1vs1


No one LFFS 100%. Not even close


This is the brutal LFF ever
The only thing that comes close is X Zero and we have seen how MM crushed Zero when needed

This is 60-50 split


You have no idea what you're talking about.

Even in years when Link was handing Cloud his worst defeats ever he would lose to Cloud/Seph combined.
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#384 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 9:18:23 PM | message detail
what? no, let the guy rally for squirtle.
then the other guy can rally for pikachu.

they keep doing this until eventually everyone realizes that they both have 30% of the vote and keep it up. match ends 34%/34%/32% with the Pokemon on top.


if they can get an ounce of whoever the hell got Mewtwo votes, this can actually happen.
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#385 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:18:43 PM | message detail
Squirtle got this
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#386 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:19:45 PM | message detail
Pikachu resets to Level 1.
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#387 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 9:19:56 PM | message detail
I can't believe you Pokenerds are trying to put on blinders for this performance. Last round was more of a question mark but Snake's got close to 50% on what is essentially just POKEMON

Look at the Oracle, look at the Spread Betting, he's doing great
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#388 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:20:04 PM | message detail
And this LFF is brutal. Pokemon may not be one of the most insular fanbases, but this is a 50/50 split. Snake is looking right now like he'd get 57% or so on Pikachu/Squirtle 1v1. Better than the 55% Cloud looked like he'd get before the rally, but close enough that the match is debatable.
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#389 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:20:41 PM | message detail
-hotdogturtle-- posted...
So Devin Morgan either didn't pick, or literally had Sephiroth over Mewtwo.


Also a bunch of mother ****ers picked Draven in their brackets.
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#390 | tgs2 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:21:07 PM | message detail
Honestly if both Pikachu and Squirtle are going to rally their asses off which seems to be happening now, anything better than 40% is a win for Snake considering he isn't getting one.
#391 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 9:21:09 PM | message detail
like... to be clear on this:

last match Mewtwo got 30,000 votes. we normally get around 50,000.
if Pokemon fans start rallying between themselves and blow up that way to get a similar performance and then the site catches on?

Snake would be doomed.
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#392 | yoyoyoyrlozer | Posted 9/11/2013 9:21:16 PM | message detail
I wish I had looked at the match pics and seen the squirtle squad ones before putting Pikachu in 2nd...
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#393 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/11/2013 9:21:17 PM | message detail
Allen needs to make the banner more visible so that the votals increase more.
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#394 | FFDragon | Posted 9/11/2013 9:21:41 PM | message detail
So we get to see this kind of brutal poke LFF happen again during the bonus poll

Mewtwo/Squirtle/Loser of Samus and Mega Man

...or god forbid it's Mewtwo/Squirtle/Red.
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#395 | swordz9 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:22:10 PM | message detail
Snake pulling a Sora would be hilarious.
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#396 | Pentrox | Posted 9/11/2013 9:23:08 PM | message detail
Goo Snake
#397 | The Owner of FF9 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:23:27 PM | message detail
Pikachu, if you get 2nd and beat Squirtle, you will take Bulbasaur's place as my favorite Pokemon. Seriously. I'm counting on you.
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#398 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 9:23:32 PM | message detail
this brutal LFF is what i was hoping for in my finals!
i wanted Mewtwo/Pikachu or Squirtle/Mega Man so the robot could win it.

but nooo. now he has to do it that hard way.
good thing he has HARD KNUCKLE.
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#399 | Lieutenant Kettch | Posted 9/11/2013 9:23:43 PM | message detail
Good to see Sora's sacrifice was not in vain.
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#400 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 9:24:19 PM | message detail
I don't even care about getting a prediction right anymore!

Pikachu needs to do this to make Crono look better!
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