Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1170

#201 | Zenithian Legend | Posted 9/11/2013 6:34:09 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
im taking Mega Man to win based on twitter. the official Mega Man twitter account posted a link to the poll last round


Nice!

The only possible x-factor here is Red will likely be the last Pokemon left, and even though I feel Red would lose in a poll with Pikachu, Mewtwo, Squirtle and Charizard; those that have supported the Pokemon characters may really go nuts to save their last character.

Look at the lead Mewtwo has on Sephiroth. Then again, I can't see Mega Man losing to Red after beating Charizard, despite Zero being in the match.

Pry going Mega Man > Samus > Red.
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#202 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/11/2013 6:48:09 PM | message detail
Zenithian Legend posted...
Pry going Mega Man > Samus > Red.


That's what I'm thinking atm. I don't see Red being strong enough to come close to second place, much less first. But I do think that his presence hurts Samus more than it does Mega Man, especially since MM actually has the SSB announcement and a new upcoming game to boost him, and Samus hasn't had a game in a few years.

All that, plus the rallying strength that Mega Man showed last round to put him over Charizard, I think he's going to squeak into first place.
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#203 | snoocete | Posted 9/11/2013 6:55:02 PM | message detail
What if there was a rally voting cap?

"Hundreds of people voting once good..."

Let's take this literally.

The idea is that for next contest, the poll would only allow up to 999 votes per option from every top-level domain.

For example if the poll was linked on reddit, then everyone from reddit.com could only add 999 votes for Draven, 999 votes for Link, etc.

They'd probably circumvent this by using those anonymizing referrer sites or putting instructions to copy-paste the poll link to the browser's address bar, but overall it would still put a limit on how much each individual website could influence the poll.
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#204 | im317 | Posted 9/11/2013 6:57:16 PM | message detail
snoocete posted...
What if there was a rally voting cap?

"Hundreds of people voting once good..."

Let's take this literally.

The idea is that for next contest, the poll would only allow up to 999 votes per option from every top-level domain.

For example if the poll was linked on reddit, then everyone from reddit.com could only add 999 votes for Draven, 999 votes for Link, etc.

They'd probably circumvent this by using those anonymizing referrer sites or putting instructions to copy-paste the poll link to the browser's address bar, but overall it would still put a limit on how much each individual website could influence the poll.


could this be done but with search engines like Google not being included?
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#205 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 6:57:22 PM | message detail
snoocete posted...
What if there was a rally voting cap?

"Hundreds of people voting once good..."

Let's take this literally.

The idea is that for next contest, the poll would only allow up to 999 votes per option from every top-level domain.

For example if the poll was linked on reddit, then everyone from reddit.com could only add 999 votes for Draven, 999 votes for Link, etc.

They'd probably circumvent this by using those anonymizing referrer sites or putting instructions to copy-paste the poll link to the browser's address bar, but overall it would still put a limit on how much each individual website could influence the poll.


*gamefaqs.com has been capped at 999 votes*-everyone at some point in the poll
......except Chester
LMAO
#206 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2013 6:59:01 PM | message detail
It just makes things complicated.

Having a small banner every night advertising each match will get more people to the front page, maybe make it a different color than the GameFAQs banner.
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#207 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/11/2013 7:08:01 PM | message detail
The problem with the site alert is having the same exact color as the header, which means someone might not even notice the site alert.
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#208 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:09:12 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
The problem with the site alert is having the same exact color as the header, which means someone might not even notice the site alert.


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#209 | snoocete | Posted 9/11/2013 7:10:36 PM | message detail
im317 posted...
could this be done but with search engines like Google not being included?


Some sites that would be excluded from the voting cap:

- search engines like Google, yes
- GameFAQs and affiliates
- Facebook and twitter since the website have official social media accounts there which post links to the polls

If it's not too much trouble there would also be a blacklist of anonymizing referrer sites such that you can't vote for the polls in the first place if you were linked from those, much like how votes from public proxies and VPNs are automatically suspicious for stuffing.
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#210 | Kotetsu534 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:11:52 PM | message detail
The US has flipped for Mewtwo, for the record.
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#211 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 7:12:14 PM | message detail
Whats the anti draven rally in the finals Solid snake or Mega Man? or squirtle?

Is there a cohesive plan to try and take draven down?
#212 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/11/2013 7:14:30 PM | message detail | (edited)
-LusterSoldier- posted...
The problem with the site alert is having the same exact color as the header, which means someone might not even notice the site alert.


I said that last night, but I think everybody was too busy crying over the reddit/gamefaqs/allen drama to notice :P
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#213 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:14:38 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
The US has flipped for Mewtwo, for the record.

*Checks*

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#214 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:15:53 PM | message detail
Kotetsu534 posted...
The US has flipped for Mewtwo, for the record.


I'm going to see how much of a lead he can build up, he's approaching 2% pretty quickly!
#215 | perfectchaos83 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:17:49 PM | message detail
LinkFTMFW posted...
Whats the anti draven rally in the finals Solid snake or Mega Man? or squirtle?

Is there a cohesive plan to try and take draven down?


If it's Snake we should try a David Hayter/Kojima/Keifer Sutherland Rally? I dunno how twitter works, but that's all I got. >_>
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#216 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/11/2013 7:18:12 PM | message detail
Indonesia is now 4-0 for going against Draven.

Banjo's sacrifice not in vain.
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#217 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 7:19:03 PM | message detail
LinkFTMFW posted...
Whats the anti draven rally in the finals Solid snake or Mega Man? or squirtle?

Is there a cohesive plan to try and take draven down?


No, because he can't be beaten. Hopefully these next 2 matches are interesting, because they're the last we have.
#218 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/11/2013 7:26:18 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Indonesia is now 4-0 for going against Draven.

Banjo's sacrifice not in vain.


All hail Indonesia Banjo.
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#219 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 7:27:39 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
LinkFTMFW posted...
Whats the anti draven rally in the finals Solid snake or Mega Man? or squirtle?

Is there a cohesive plan to try and take draven down?


No, because he can't be beaten. Hopefully these next 2 matches are interesting, because they're the last we have.


This is not acceptable. He can be beaten. Hes only getting 50k votes, not a million. You guys just arent thinking hard enough.
#220 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:28:07 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Indonesia is now 4-0 for going against Draven.

Banjo's sacrifice not in vain.


will Mega Man sacrifice himself to stop Draven from winning Europe?
*gasp*
#221 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 7:29:59 PM | message detail
perfectchaos83 posted...
LinkFTMFW posted...
Whats the anti draven rally in the finals Solid snake or Mega Man? or squirtle?

Is there a cohesive plan to try and take draven down?


If it's Snake we should try a David Hayter/Kojima/Keifer Sutherland Rally? I dunno how twitter works, but that's all I got. >_>


best plan so far.
#222 | legendoftom | Posted 9/11/2013 7:44:35 PM | message detail
First plan ahead, then hit all of the big rally sites before the contest, I'm talking a few days before, and just bombard them until they do something.

Link proved Draven can lose. Litrally the only reason he lost is because of a freak site outage.
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#223 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/11/2013 7:50:00 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Indonesia is now 4-0 for going against Draven.

Banjo's sacrifice not in vain.


will Mega Man sacrifice himself to stop Draven from winning Europe?
*gasp*

Not enough. We'd need, like, British Tron Bonne for something for that.
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#224 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/11/2013 7:54:08 PM | message detail
legendoftom posted...
First plan ahead, then hit all of the big rally sites before the contest, I'm talking a few days before, and just bombard them until they do something.

Link proved Draven can lose. Litrally the only reason he lost is because of a freak site outage.


Link proved Draven can lose...to a peak-strength AND rallied Link.

No one is beating rallied Draven in this contest, unless the final match is Draven/Snake/MM and MegaMan wins the hearts of everyone on Board 8 by following up his epic victories with an equally epic seppuku on the homepage.
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#225 | tgs2 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:56:09 PM | message detail
Is it really a sacrifice when Mega Man can probably legit lose 1v1 to a non-rallied Draven in Europe never mind the super rallied version?
#226 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2013 7:58:03 PM | message detail
Samus vs. Mega Man feels like Snake vs. Samus 2006 all over again.

Maybe because Samus is fresh off of struggling with Tifa again!
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#227 | Kibago | Posted 9/11/2013 7:58:50 PM | message detail
Seph escaping the doubling
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#228 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 7:58:56 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
Is it really a sacrifice when Mega Man can probably legit lose 1v1 to a non-rallied Draven in Europe never mind the super rallied version?


that's exactly why I'm joking about a sacrifice
remember, Banjo was complete ass without any rallies too
#229 | Julian_Caesar | Posted 9/11/2013 7:58:58 PM | message detail
tgs2 posted...
Is it really a sacrifice when Mega Man can probably legit lose 1v1 to a non-rallied Draven in Europe never mind the super rallied version?


Uh, yes it is, when the poll includes the U.S. as well, not to mention the rest of the world. MM is significantly stronger than non-rallied Draven overall.
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#230 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/11/2013 7:59:32 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Samus vs. Mega Man feels like Snake vs. Samus 2006 all over again.

Maybe because Samus is fresh off of struggling with Tifa again!


You know, I've been saying that Samus vs Snake in the final feels a lot like Snake vs Samus 2006 all over again...
#231 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2013 7:59:43 PM | message detail
Draven nearly lost the ASV to Sephiroth outright.

Literally beat Seph by 38 votes.
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#232 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/11/2013 8:04:51 PM | message detail
We just got 107 votes on that last update and that's in a match where we have a site alert on every page of the site and there might still be a very small number of rally votes coming in from the rally topic on Reddit.
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#233 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:04:58 PM | message detail
Looks like we'll finish around 97,000 votes today, compared with 122,000 last round. Would have been around 130,000 last round without downtime.

I'd like to note that Mario/Crono II was 133,000 votes. If not for the downtime, our 2 most controversial matches would have ended up with very similar votals. If you get add the missing 90 minutes to Link/Draven and subtract the extra 27 minutes from Mario/Crono, they probably end up at almost identical votals- like within 1000.
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#234 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:08:05 PM | message detail | (edited)
And I really miss results like this. So much power.....

North Division Round 1: Link vs. AiAi
Link 91.35% 92998
AiAi 8.65% 8802
TOTAL VOTES 101800

If Link wins normally by 80,000 votes, and loses outside votes at a 60/40 clip, we would need 400,000 rallied votes for Link to lose a 1v1. I miss our old votals.
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#235 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:09:47 PM | message detail
We just got 107 votes on that last update and that's in a match where we have a site alert on every page of the site and there might still be a very small number of rally votes coming in from the rally topic on Reddit.

To be fair the number of people that haven't seen it on GameFAQs is pretty small now.
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#236 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 8:14:52 PM | message detail
The general silence here speaks for itself.
#237 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/11/2013 8:18:15 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
The general silence here speaks for itself.


Boring match ending followed by another (most-likely) boring match. This place will light up as Mega Man/Samus is about to start.

And that Mega Man/Samus/Mewtwo final would have been epic. What could have been if Allen hadn't overruled our hero fake admin...
#238 | LinkFTMFW | Posted 9/11/2013 8:18:43 PM | message detail
No mega man voting in the finals . All snake
#239 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 8:19:06 PM | message detail
I'm not ruling out this match given what we've seen here. Snake should be naturally stronger and the split should be too much but then RALLIES idk
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#240 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:19:26 PM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
The general silence here speaks for itself.

Well, what's there to talk about?

Well, Pikachu v Squirtle, I guess.

but who really wants to talk about that
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#241 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:20:43 PM | message detail
The one character NOT being rallied this round has almost 23 percent. Seph is the only one impressing this round. The others doing as expected.
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#242 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2013 8:20:44 PM | message detail
I think Squirtle vs. Pikachu 1-on-1 in a vacuum would be debatable.

But I imagine this goes like Squall/Vivi where Squirtle gets all the support out of the gate because he beat Cloud last round and Pokefans think he's got the best shot even if Pika would stand a chance straight up.
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#243 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 8:21:08 PM | message detail
Yes, that's my point.
#244 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 8:22:12 PM | message detail
I thought Pikachu was going to be the rallyguy and Squirtle would get abandoned!

dangit pokepeople make up your mind
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#245 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2013 8:22:46 PM | message detail
He might be, but I was thinking it'd be a "Squirtle beat CLOUD he's got the best chance to beat Snake!"
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#246 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/11/2013 8:22:53 PM | message detail
We'll just have to see who takes control at the start. This same thing happened with Pikachu and Blue.
#247 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:23:09 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I thought Pikachu was going to be the rallyguy and Squirtle would get abandoned!

dangit pokepeople make up your mind

I've got Pikachu but I think Squirtle is the safer pick here.

but i don't know what to believe in anymore

except

solid snake
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#248 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/11/2013 8:27:30 PM | message detail
Squirtle might have a chance to finish 2nd here since he should hopefully get bandwagoned for beating Cloud last round. We saw Vivi get bandwagoned for beating Mario, allowing him to beat Squall.
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#249 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/11/2013 8:28:44 PM | message detail
So would you guys rather see:

Mewtwo vs. Pikachu vs. Samus
Mewtwo vs. Pikachu vs. Mega Man
Mewtwo vs. Pikachu vs. Red
Mewtwo vs. Squirtle vs. Samus
Mewtwo vs. Squirtle vs. Mega Man
Mewtwo vs. Squirtle vs. Red
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#250 | im317 | Posted 9/11/2013 8:29:01 PM | message detail
wouldn't Mega Man making the finals help take Draven down? he would fold hard in Europe to Draven yes, but also to whoever else is there.
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