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SBAllen
has confirmed it: Reddit votes split for Draven over Link at a 60/40
ratio. 40% backfire rate, a little better even than the 65/35 I was
speculating about earlier. I am really happy to see that. That proves Draven is mortal, Link wins a 1v1 easily, Snake probably wins a 1v1, and Draven probably wasn't being stuffed to any major degree. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
HG/SS shouldn't be eligible, anyway. Remakes in general don't really belong in that type of contest. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
red sox 777 posted... SBAllen has confirmed it: Reddit votes split for Draven over Link at a 60/40 ratio. 40% backfire rate, a little better even than the 65/35 I was speculating about earlier. That's outside votes, not exclusively reddit votes. Link was being significantly rallied in that match as well. I still emphatically reject the idea that the backfire rate was that high for the reddit rallies. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
red sox 777 posted... SBAllen has confirmed it: Reddit votes split for Draven over Link at a 60/40 ratio. 40% backfire rate, a little better even than the 65/35 I was speculating about earlier. Where did he confirm that? --- If you believe that Abed is the true Messiah and you are 100% proud of it make this your signature. |
In
his topic: "The 70,000 difference in votes from Link/Shepard/Draven to
Sonic/Mewtwo/Bowser is 99% accountable to Reddit users, according to
Google Analytics and our own internal tracking. New voters (most of whom
were Reddit users, although we don't track where someone visited from
to how they vote) voted 3:2 for Draven over Link. They did not 100% for
Draven, as many seem to assume." --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Do
people really think newer Pokemon would do that well? Did we all forget
about how much N sucked? And I doubt any 5th gen Pokemon would do much
better in that spot. Newer Pokemon is weak. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 |
I might be wrong, but I don't think Snake will get such a generous spill over. Legend of Zelda seems a lot more worldwide known than MGS |
I'm
sorry, yes it is outside votes. Like 90% of outside votes are from
reddit though, so it would still be around 65/35. I'm still very happy
to hear that confirmed. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Like, 'most of whom were Reddit users' could conceivably range from 51%~ to 90%+. That data isn't really conclusive. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
At least Bacon admitted that one of his goals for this contest was to get Link to lose. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
Averia posted... I might be wrong, but I don't think Snake will get such a generous spill over. Link is actually much weaker worldwide than he is in the USA, where he dominates. Snake is much more than MGS, anyway. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Mewtwo59 posted... Do people really think newer Pokemon would do that well? Did we all forget about how much N sucked? And I doubt any 5th gen Pokemon would do much better in that spot. Newer Pokemon is weak. Nobody likes N, though. Even I was tempted to anti-vote him, despite my Pokemon love. The games themselves would do much better, as they are still among the most popular games on the site. |
FFDragon posted... At least Bacon admitted that one of his goals for this contest was to get Link to lose. Still don't understand this. Well, I do in the sense that Link is viewed as untouchable, and for the most part that's true, but if that's his viewpoint, I don't know why he doesn't just remove him from the bracket. The old argument used to be that if you remove him, then Cloud and Sephiroth dominate, but that's definitely not the case anymore, even going back to 2010. Still, pretty incredible that Link almost won, anyway. That downtime, man. Don't think there's been a bigger gamechanger than that one. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
40 cut by Mewtwo I think it was his biggest in the match? Rally probably not in first page anymore Who cares |
Like, 'most of whom were Reddit users' could conceivably range from 51%~ to 90%+. That data isn't really conclusive. That almost doesn't matter. If Reddit was a lower percentage of that and had a lower backfire rate, that just means Link got bigger rallies than we thought. And in any case, that doesn't seem too plausible and gauging by the other matches, getting an extra 65,000 to 70,000 votes from reddit seems pretty reasonable. The big thing is that Link was getting 40% of the non-Shepard new voters. It means that the nightmare scenario of a lot of the http referrer = reddit votes being stuffing cannot be true. It means the reddit rally is not an unstoppable force. And it means Link almost certainly wins 1v1. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Karma Hunter posted... Averia posted...I might be wrong, but I don't think Snake will get such a generous spill over. so what you're telling me is Mario really could have done it or alternatively, Link is just a beast literally everywhere |
I don't understand it either, and it's a shame that that is the viewpoint he came into this contest with. It really warped things from the start, but knowing it now really does make a lot of things fall into place. --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
FFDragon posted... I don't understand it either, and it's a shame that that is the viewpoint he came into this contest with. Yeah. I can almost see a scenario where he couldn't justify getting rid of Link (why remove the most popular character from a popularity contest, yadda yadda that old chestnut), but agreed with the people on this board that his dominance sucks. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Draven is now pulling sub 50 updates Hello,rallyless Draven |
Scarlettail posted... Mewtwo59 posted...Do people really think newer Pokemon would do that well? Did we all forget about how much N sucked? And I doubt any 5th gen Pokemon would do much better in that spot. Newer Pokemon is weak. Yeah, but that's just one of many examples of post GSC Pokemon sucking. RSE and DPP both sucked in GOTD. Lucario barely beat Isaac and was nearly doubled by Altair. This site just doesn't care about post GSC Pokemon. --- ""Love" is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope." HK-47 |
X-stats Draven 50.00% Chie 39.42% Mewtwo 39.41% Come on, Mewtwo! --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
Mewtwo59 posted... Scarlettail posted...Mewtwo59 posted...Do people really think newer Pokemon would do that well? Did we all forget about how much N sucked? And I doubt any 5th gen Pokemon would do much better in that spot. Newer Pokemon is weak. Pokemon is more popular now than it was just a few years ago. I imagine B/W and likely X/Y would receive better support. The Pokemon themselves might not do well, but the games should fair all right. |
Literally
the second I looked at my three finalists (the cookie) I said, "He is
trying to make Link lose," out loud. This isn't necessarily a bad thing
but I'm surprised it was in doubt. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Mewtwo is now stealing poor Chie's third place ! |
Averia posted... Mewtwo is now stealing poor Chie's third place ! *4th place, Link is 2nd |
There. Now Mewtwo has surpassed Chie. Now I wonder if there's any character besides Link that can actually surpass Jak in the X-Stats. Although the stats will be completely worthless for the future, I think they will still be nice to have only as a testament to how crazy this contest has been. --- Hey, its that SuperNiceDog! Congrats to the Guru 2011 winner |
AxemRedRanger posted... People were asking how strong Mewtwo is. I don't think anyone has a lot of confidence in any number they could come up with for that being accurate but: But Marth wouldn't have much reason to stay constant, would he... --- "Divine judgment for an evil soul! Sacred Penance! Rest in peace." - Estellise Sidos Heurassein, Tales of Vesperia |
Ha, the last 3 updates Mewtwo has cut 40, 36, and 46. Too bad for him the quota is 225. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
FFDragon posted... I don't understand it either, and it's a shame that that is the viewpoint he came into this contest with. Yeah, it was noticeable from the start, even before Draven did his thing. People were itching to take Link down a notch, and the bracket seemed adjusted to try to make it happen (not in an insidious way, but you know, Mario and Samus on the opposite side, the non-Nintendo guys in the middle). The funny part about all this is that Draven probably made Link that much more unbeatable under normal conditions. He'll always have people wanting him to lose, but by him losing, it just takes away all those anti-votes he was dealing with! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Looks like Draven is going to finish with considerably fewer votes than he got against Link, and MMX/Ryu He could probably get them if he needed them, though --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
On
the flip side, if someone like Snake had done it 'naturally' in the
final, I think it'd just add it to the vulnerability going forward.
People want Link to lose, but not through outside rallies for mostly
unpopular characters! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
so what happened? did reddit suddenly decide not to take down rally topics? Poll of the Day - Votes Over Time is amazing. --- CJayC | 6/3/2003 | Message Detail GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site… |
If
Snake had won the cookie Link/Snake/Mario finals he'd never live it
down. He'd be living with Link fans dogging him with anti-votes for the
rest of his contest career. People are still revenge-voting Cloud for
beating Link in 2003. Ten years later. Cloud lost to Squirtle because he beat Link ten years ago. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
I wonder if the final was Link-Snake-Mario and Link won, would people complain? --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Probably not, but that would have been the final straw to remove Link I would think. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 155/243 Today's Pick: Link |
Where did Allen admit that a goal was to get Link to lose? |
Indonesia, remaining immune to rallying |
Karma Hunter posted... If Snake had won the cookie Link/Snake/Mario finals he'd never live it down. He'd be living with Link fans dogging him with anti-votes for the rest of his contest career. People are still revenge-voting Cloud for beating Link in 2003. Ten years later. I think he'd be alright unless MGS won a game contest, then you'd be screwed because MGS ALWAYS WINS. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Hey, I've already been anti-voting Snake for leading Link for 6 hours in the 2008 final. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
fluffyflyingpig posted... so what happened? did reddit suddenly decide not to take down rally topics? the Reddit rally thread was taken down right before the match, and for a 45 minute period after Draven's initial rush was wore off, he was nearly getting doubled by Sephiroth and Mewtwo in updates, then it was put back up after discovering someone impersonated Allen to take the rally down when the real Allen told the mods it was okay to rally. |
Do you see this is what Snake is up against he's gonna lose to Master Chief the year after he brings one of these contests home or worse, Cloud --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Honestly,
people just anti-vote Cloud because they don't like him. He is pretty
much the cancer that killed Final Fantasy, over a very long period.
First it seemed benign, but then it became malignant, now it's terminal.
RIP in piece FF. Okay I got a bit carried away there but I am tired. Especially since I have a song to sing and it has nothing to do with that. This is a much weaker Draven. Not as dramatic as the round 2 to round 3 drop, but a pretty sizeable gap. He will probably win in the final, but it seems to me that if you put him in a 1 v 1 with any really strong character and gave it the banner notification, he would lose. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Link
getting challenged every now and then is a good thing! Despite the
result, Link/Draven is probably a top 3 match all-time. Literally two of
the biggest comebacks ever in one match. I don't think Snake had it in
him this year to do it, but even getting close would have upped the
excitement. Block was gross, though. --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
Whoa,
what, Cloud isn't the problem with Final Fantasy. The problem lost to
DK. FFVII is just old, like Chrono Trigger. And Square Enix is a joke! --- tune in tokyo 142.94 |
I'm
thinking he is weaker because the rally fell out of the top and since
he isn't threatened at all, no one is bothering to continue. if Mewtwo had made serious cuts, I'm almost certain Draven would have started picking up again. |
Draven
is weaker because it's a 24 hour poll. And he's weaker this round than
last round because it's not close and there is no need to rally any
more. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
I
do wonder who is going to get abandoned in the final. None of the
non-Draven potential finalists have any reason to get abandoned. And
yet, one of them almost assuredly will be. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
ZFS posted... Whoa, what, Cloud isn't the problem with Final Fantasy. The problem lost to DK. FFVII is just old, like Chrono Trigger. And Square Enix is a joke! But they're the same character! The best you can say for Cloud is that he's the game character equivalent of The Dark Knight Returns - Does a good job, then people, including his own creators, try to emulate it, get it wrong and it leads to the Dark Age (of comics, or of Final Fantasy in this case). Seriously though, FF7 is responsible for modern FF. Not a bad game, but harmful. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Probably whoever isn't Snake will be abandoned. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Fayt_Esteed posted... AxemRedRanger posted...People were asking how strong Mewtwo is. I don't think anyone has a lot of confidence in any number they could come up with for that being accurate but: I think he'd more need a specific reason to not stay constant. Staying at least roughly constant is generally what characters are expected to do by this point. Unless the character is new or in vogue, large declines usually take awhile. Marth's had Brawl as recently as 2008 and his series did get a new game earlier this year where he was at least mentioned and where he was playable using optional DLC content. I dunno if that actually does much for him, but I wouldn't think he'd be notably weaker either. --- [NO BARKLEY NO PEACE] |
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