Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1169

#51 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 12:03:47 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...

I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but Draven's rally never hit r/all in that match to my knowledge.

It did tonight and in X/Ryu.


one problem with this theory:
it still did


Same scale? Frontpage and all?

No way for me to verify and obviously Link is strong enough that he'd siphon more spillover, but Draven never got off the ground in the Link match the way that he did in X/Ryu.
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#52 | Acerac | Posted 9/11/2013 12:04:22 AM | message detail
Yikes, Draven's rally is #1 on lol reddit.

Scary. o_o
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#53 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2013 12:04:33 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
You've done it, Allen. You've drained all the fight out of me. I can't even tell you why you suck anymore. Why this sucks. It just does. It's the worst thing to happen on here since XIII is cool got banned. Whole thing is just gross, horrifyingly gross. Not mad. Just...sad.


I apologize for all the messages whenever you sign back into AIM but I had to have some place to spill the vitriol so I don't get banned.
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#54 | Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2013 12:04:45 AM | message detail
ChichiriMuyo posted...
Crossfiyah posted...
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?


Again, I say, GTFO. The contests are the only reason this board exists, and it has shrunk in the wake of contests utterly sucking or not existing at all. If that's really how you feel about the thing that brought us together in the first place why are you here?


For the same reason I still vote in the United States Presidential Elections: I believe in what they used to represent.
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#55 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:05:35 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


So Allen, are we going to hear what happened with the "certain GameFAQs mod" who told the LoL subreddit that they couldn't post rally threads anymore?

I doubt he knows who it was. And I doubt it was even a mod, honestly.

Though I also doubt we'll get any confirmation on any of that.
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#56 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 12:05:41 AM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
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whoever wins the guru should use barkley as their nom.
since if that's the kind of response, well, that's the kind of reaction that should be given.

I imagine it'd be ignored!


well, we can also collectively repeatedly just ask him to give a good reason as to why a game which was able to get $120,000 for a sequel isn't allowed to have a representative of its fictional but inspired off a real person main character. especially when compared to Adolf Hitler who was in the rivalry rumble despite having a hell of a lot more in common with the actual person than a basketball player who destroyed a city in the future.

be stubborn and badger away.
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#57 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/11/2013 12:05:56 AM | message detail
Allen, I don't know if you're going to even read this at all, but please.

Either ban rallies, or apply weighting to votes based on membership. You have let reddit run your own contest into the ground purely because there are more of them.
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#58 | OnionOfMystery | Posted 9/11/2013 12:06:11 AM | message detail
Crossfiyah posted...
ChichiriMuyo posted...
Crossfiyah posted...
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?


Again, I say, GTFO. The contests are the only reason this board exists, and it has shrunk in the wake of contests utterly sucking or not existing at all. If that's really how you feel about the thing that brought us together in the first place why are you here?


For the same reason I still vote in the United States Presidential Elections: I believe in what they used to represent.


I'm sorry, but if you think old elections were any more legitimate or valid than those today, you are deluded.
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#59 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:06:19 AM | message detail
The reason Link did so much better is because he was getting a big chunk of the Reddit voters. Link probably coasts to way over 50% in a Link/X/Ryu match in Reddit. Or a Link/Mewtwo/Sephiroth match for that matter.

Though I have to say, Draven does have a lot of very suspicious activity in both R2 and R3. Draven's 2 hour afternoon surge after the downtime when his Reddit rally topics were down or fading is very suspicious. The LoL official forums rally doesn't explain it because SBAllen confirmed it was only providing 5% of the incoming votes.
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#60 | ff6man | Posted 9/11/2013 12:06:36 AM | message detail
I didn't care until now... but once it looked like Draven had finally been shut down, only to have it ripped away like this... I'm actually sad. Well I guess the regime of link is over, and the regime of league of legends is here. So unfortunate.
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#61 | creativename | Posted 9/11/2013 12:06:54 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.

No, this is just not true. Link *made* Draven weaker.

Link leeched more Draven rallied votes, it's as simple as that. He's Link. No one else can do anything like him.

Link being the one who got lucky in that match was and will always remain an absurd statement.
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#62 | Qwaar | Posted 9/11/2013 12:07:47 AM | message detail
Lead change next update.
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#63 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2013 12:07:51 AM | message detail
This match is a train wreck in the making. People were just about biting each other's heads off back when we thought Draven winning was a shoe-in. Now that Draven winning is a shoe-in after we have 2.5 hours of hope...this board will be ugly tomorrow.
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#64 | TyrekeEvans13 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:07:59 AM | message detail
Draven takes the lead with next update!
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#65 | ff6man | Posted 9/11/2013 12:08:16 AM | message detail
This is literally just giving gamefaqs members the finger, might as well have this contest on reddit, since users from there are going to be providing almost half the votes, maybe even more.
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#66 | Lopen | Posted 9/11/2013 12:09:07 AM | message detail
creativename posted...

Link leeched more Draven rallied votes, it's as simple as that. He's Link. No one else can do anything like him.

Link being the one who got lucky in that match was and will always remain an absurd statement.


Speaking as someone who spent way too much time looking at the extra votes, this is incorrect. The total amount of rallied votes incoming was much lower. Even assuming it was a stronger Link, Link + Shepard was not drawing significantly more votes than Ryu+MMX, total. The discrepancy was pretty much all Draven there.
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#67 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2013 12:09:07 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
This match is a train wreck in the making. People were just about biting each other's heads off back when we thought Draven winning was a shoe-in. Now that Draven winning is a shoe-in after we have 2.5 hours of hope...this board will be ugly tomorrow.


I'm just despondent. We were literally so happy at the idea of a Mewtwo/Snake/Mega Man final (or Samus) and we were all so happy. And now this.
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#68 | Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2013 12:09:37 AM | message detail
OnionOfMystery posted...
Crossfiyah posted...
ChichiriMuyo posted...
Crossfiyah posted...
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?


Again, I say, GTFO. The contests are the only reason this board exists, and it has shrunk in the wake of contests utterly sucking or not existing at all. If that's really how you feel about the thing that brought us together in the first place why are you here?


For the same reason I still vote in the United States Presidential Elections: I believe in what they used to represent.


I'm sorry, but if you think old elections were any more legitimate or valid than those today, you are deluded.


I'm so tired that I don't even care that you completely missed the point.
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#69 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/11/2013 12:09:46 AM | message detail
ff6man posted...
This is literally just giving gamefaqs members the finger, might as well have this contest on reddit, since users from there are going to be providing almost half the votes, maybe even more.


Now there's an idea...

(half-kidding, but I'd be curious about how a partnership might work.)
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#70 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/11/2013 12:09:55 AM | message detail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw5acgqIHQE

Appropriate soundtrack for right now.
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#71 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/11/2013 12:12:57 AM | message detail | (edited)
Wanglicious posted...
whoever wins the guru should use barkley as their nom.
since if that's the kind of response, well, that's the kind of reaction that should be given.


I'd have done that, but back-to-back updates of 35 and 40 with 20 minutes left in the match when the second-largest update swing of the first 23 hours and 40 minutes had been only 34.

YES I'M STILL PISSED.

Although it should be noted that the 34-vote update (also Mega Man's) came immediately after the one update larger, 44 in Mega Man's favor.
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#72 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 12:10:26 AM | message detail
Can't believe Link's vote siphoning would be that notable. When votes are primed, as they are with this rally, your backfire percentage is going to be very small regardless of what the other options are. Very low ceiling. Not buying it.
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#73 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:14 AM | message detail
Seeing this makes me wonder why Reddit just doesn't have their own popularity contests. They could probably make better money off them than this place ever could.
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#74 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:16 AM | message detail
wel that just says you picked the wrong guy. you should've BELIEVED if you wanted to win the guru, now you're just lame.
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#75 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:25 AM | message detail
So is Mega Man/Samus the only interesting matchup of the contest remaining?
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#76 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:30 AM | message detail
Lopen, how do you figure that? The rally started from the poll opening in Link/Draven, so there's no non-rally baseline to compare to.
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#77 | backinblack167 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:32 AM | message detail
oh well.

Only thing left now was to hope that Snake can somehow pull enough votes away from the Draven rally to pull it off.
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#78 | Qwaar | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:50 AM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Wanglicious posted...
whoever wins the guru should use barkley as their nom.
since if that's the kind of response, well, that's the kind of reaction that should be given.


I'd have done that, but back-to-back updates of 35 and 40 with 20 minutes left in the match when the second-largest update swing of the first 23 hours and 40 minutes had been only 32.

YES I'M STILL PISSED.


Me too. I'm still bitter about that.
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#79 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:11:56 AM | message detail
Lead change incoming.
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#80 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:12:02 AM | message detail
backinblack167 posted...
oh well.

Only thing left now was to hope that Snake can somehow pull enough votes away from the Draven rally to pull it off.

hahahahahahaha

hahahaha

hahaha

yeah that isn't happening
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#81 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/11/2013 12:12:14 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fw5acgqIHQE

Appropriate soundtrack for right now.


No, this is appropriate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaALQCdhDXc

dat artist name
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#82 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:12:21 AM | message detail
Oh hi the rally is up?
lol

As I said before,I don't care who already won
We proved just how pathetic losers they are,this is a better victory than Mewtwo winning
#83 | SnoicFactor | Posted 9/11/2013 12:13:02 AM | message detail
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#84 | wakeuptogashi | Posted 9/11/2013 12:13:09 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.


Might be suppressed votes. I'd give it a few more updates for votals to slow down a little.
#85 | mumbo230 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:13:23 AM | message detail
So this match is a bust basically.

But...Mega Man won.

Seriously that's my only hope left for this contest. Mega Man pulled off the impossible, just maybe, maaaaaaybe he can do it one more time against the devil himself.
#86 | Crossfiyah | Posted 9/11/2013 12:13:24 AM | message detail
If it makes you feel any worse, reddit clearly voted in the Mega Man/Charizard match near the end, spiking Mega Man's votes.
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#87 | DBean | Posted 9/11/2013 12:13:56 AM | message detail
Kind of funny how the one dude keeps going up by just over 400 every time. This contest is kind of showing that GameFAQs just isn't that relevant anymore.
#88 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/11/2013 12:14:14 AM | message detail
If you are a picsmith and you make pics anymore, you're dead to me. If Allen wants to say f*** you to us, we should make him do his own work for the rest of his (and reddit's) contest.
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#89 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/11/2013 12:14:22 AM | message detail
And Draven takes the lead.

He is the Glorious Executioner, come to buttexecute us all.
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#90 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2013 12:14:43 AM | message detail
Yeah now I just can't wait for the contest to be done with so everything can blow over and we can go back to be in a secluded little backwater. I just have no passion for this now. None at all. There was so much positivity around MM's win that I was actually happy that Charizard lost. Then Mewtwo started exposing Draven. It was the best the board had been since the 8 seeds were announced.

And now I'm just sick of this whole contest. I really hope you LoL guys are happy. And you too, Allen.
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#91 | Denzokuken | Posted 9/11/2013 12:14:58 AM | message detail
This is awful from Draven.

I want to see 800 vote updates dammit.
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#92 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/11/2013 12:15:01 AM | message detail
For the next match everyone should just submit pics of Barkley.
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#93 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:15:08 AM | message detail
And yeah, Draven's updates aren't going to stay at this 400-level for too much longer. The rally will weaken as more people have already voted, and as more people go to sleep.
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#94 | ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/11/2013 12:15:39 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.


*note* I am not saying I agree with the policy, just that I understand it and think it's fair:

I personally think it violates the spirit of the contest. I don't know what Allen would say, but I don't think people should vote for Barkley for what he did within our lifetimes (for those of us who remember him as a basketball player). I lived in Arizona when he joined the Suns and that will forever taint my opinion of him. Lu Bu, despite having been a real person, is so removed from my reality that he is effectively a character. On top of that, what stories we do know of him have been fictionalized to a degree in order to make the story more exciting even within a genuine historical context. Also, Koei's version is really a fictionalization of a fictionalization.

tldr:

Essentially, Barkley is simply more real to us than Lu Bu because he is alive and we can contextualize the fictitious Barkley against the real one with a nearly perfect degree of accuracy. The fictional Lu Bu is, oddly, even more real to us now than the actual person he is based off of.
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#95 | elitewarrior500 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:15:55 AM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Yeah now I just can't wait for the contest to be done with so everything can blow over and we can go back to be in a secluded little backwater. I just have no passion for this now. None at all. There was so much positivity around MM's win that I was actually happy that Charizard lost. Then Mewtwo started exposing Draven. It was the best the board had been since the 8 seeds were announced.

And now I'm just sick of this whole contest. I really hope you LoL guys are happy. And you too, Allen.

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#96 | ff6man | Posted 9/11/2013 12:15:57 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
For the next match everyone should just submit pics of Barkley.

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#97 | creativename | Posted 9/11/2013 12:16:23 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Same scale? Frontpage and all?

No way for me to verify and obviously Link is strong enough that he'd siphon more spillover, but Draven never got off the ground in the Link match the way that he did in X/Ryu.

The pre-Link match Draven rally thread was FAR bigger than the pre-X/Ryu thread. More comments, voteups, points etc. It was insane.

Draven had every reason in the world to start off stronger than he did in the X/Ryu match. Reddit was poised to launch a tactical nuke at us in the Link match. And they did launch it. But Link had the sheer power to survive.

In terms of pure rally strength, no question that the Draven Link faced was the strongest Draven.

Now, if you think stuffing was for some reason lesser in the Link match than in X/Ryu, then you can claim Draven might have been weaker against Link. But rally-wise, the Draven Link faced was the most primed, hyped Draven you could possibly get.
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#98 | elitewarrior500 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:16:31 AM | message detail
in my 7 years on gfaqs i have never seen such BS happen.. and i seen BS happen on random boards
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#99 | Lopen | Posted 9/11/2013 12:17:09 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Lopen, how do you figure that? The rally started from the poll opening in Link/Draven, so there's no non-rally baseline to compare to.


You don't even need to go in depth, here. No need to go into baselines.

Ryu/MMX/Draven had 85k votes after 12 hours. Draven had 55k of those votes.
Link/Draven/Shep had 66k votes after 12 hours. Draven had 32k of those votes.

This means Link + Shepard drew 34k votes and Ryu+MMX drew 30k. Like there's not even a huge difference in the amount of total votes they got. And if anything you'd expect the MMX match to have less votes considering it started later
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#100 | Qwaar | Posted 9/11/2013 12:17:12 AM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
And yeah, Draven's updates aren't going to stay at this 400-level for too much longer. The rally will weaken as more people have already voted, and as more people go to sleep.


But Draven still has this wrapped up though?
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