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joke characters like l-block, missingno, cube, charizard, mewtwo and magus are never as strong after their first contest --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
Luster, include this in whatever bonus poll topic you do: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67217483 --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
He's
only beatable if the rally topics are deleted. If Snake wins tomorrow,
he'll split the anti-Draven with Mega Man/Samus/Red (none of whom will
simply lay down for Snake). If one of the Pokemon actually beats Snake,
then Draven has two Nintendo entries (or quasi-Nintendo in Mega Man's
case) splitting the vote. Even with counter-rallies out the wazoo, it's
completely implausible. --- http://i.imgur.com/IjkDZMA.jpg |
Lightning Strikes posted...
Another LoL blowout to write off. |
That's why we need to get a 1 v 1 match at the end! Potentially, any of the Noble Niners could win in that scenario. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Scarlettail posted... Lightning Strikes posted... LoL would not win that. There's a big difference betwen rallying a game and a character. --- Mithos |
Draven is unbeatable in the finals due to finals hype He will not be "Ultimate Draven" because that was when the servers were down,but it will be much stronger than this round ...Weird,I just noticed he is getting more votes this round than the one against Link? I know alot of votes went to Link but still... Anyway,he will be stronger than both round 3 and 4,and with Samus/Snake/MM not having a clear favorite between them,it will be harder to support one of them over the other In this case,there was more agreement about supporting Mewtwo than there will be about supporting Samus/Snake/MM Draven will win in the finals and sadly,he might crash them ever harder than what he is doing now |
I
don't see how Mewtwo is a joke. He's one of the more popular Pokemon,
and he's more of a character than the other Pokemon entries. |
Flop is a bit harsh. People were REALLY underestimating Zelda in Round 2. Never bet against Zelda when it comes to SFF. I also bet there was some kind of Skyward Sword boost since a lot of fans of the series didn't like the character until that game. Also, Charizard would probably get 45% against Super Ultra Giga Boosted Supreme Maximum Adjective Mega Man. That's pretty impressive. People set their expectations too high, Charizard looked normal, Still one of the strongest characters outside the noble 9 straight up. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
KamikazePotato posted... That's why we need to get a 1 v 1 match at the end! Potentially, any of the Noble Niners could win in that scenario. Against Draven? Only a few would have a chance. Guys like Sonic and Crono have no chance. --- Mithos |
It's really just Link and Snake who could win that. Maybe Megaman if he really got a big boost. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
IngmarBirdman posted... The Owner of FF9 posted...Also, is Mega Man now the favorite to get into the finals? If so, that is amazing. You neglected to mention that MM had literally the heaviest anchor anyone could ever have in Zero. Zero does to Megaman what Sephiroth can hardly do to Cloud. |
Scarlettail posted... I don't see how Mewtwo is a joke. He's one of the more popular Pokemon, and he's more of a character than the other Pokemon entries. I love Pokemon, but there's no denying anymore that they behave like joke characters for whatever reason. Joke trends, easy to rally, hard to SFF, does better in multiway polls, becomes much weaker after a successful run in a previous contest because "the joke is getting old", etc. --- "That choke point bridge in Chapter 2 completely changed my strategy as well as my views on life." - WestbrickIII |
I called Charizard losing to MM,it was obvious http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/67201504 And im going to call MM victory over Samus,too Pity +Smash+Mighty No 9+bandwagon While Samus got...THE BABY |
I'm
surprised yoblazer is still entertaining Red having a chance against
Mega Man/Samus. The dude nearly blew a match with Vivi and Squall LFFing
each other, and while it's possible Samus and Mega Man will LFF each
other, 2007 seemed to suggest it isn't anything significant. Plus, I'd be kind of flabbergasted if Mega Man could beat Charizard while being LFF'd but not Red. Also, Mewtwo won't replicate this again. It's like you guys still don't understand how bandwagons work! --- http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/8/22/2094c2de-bae8-4f5b-9f27-67eaff0aaeaf.jpg |
I
don't trust Draven 1 v 1. If you take Sephiroth out of this poll
basically all of his votes would go to Mewtwo, and vice versa. He probably still wins most 1 v 1 matches, but I think basically all of the elites could give him a scare at the very least. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Mega
Man still had a third of the Guru brackets. If you want to base things
exclusively off the pre-contest Guru predictions, then Charizard was a
slightly bigger flop than Dante (who had a similar albeit less
convincing Guru advantage over Squirtle). If you want to judge things in
light of Pokemon's overall domination this contest (Mewtwo, Pikachu,
Squirtle, Red, and even Blue), then Charizard is a significantly bigger
flop since he's the only Pokemon entrant (sans awful-pic-Lugia) to
disappoint. However, if you consider the actual match result,
then Charizard can be considered a lesser flop than Dante because he
could have easily still won while Dante was hung out to dry. --- http://i.imgur.com/IjkDZMA.jpg |
Charizard's
worth 44% on Mega Man by my Zero split estimates. In a match where he
is almost assuredly inflated on top of that. He's also naturally weaker
than Zelda. He flopped. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
GloriousSweater posted... Mega Man still had a third of the Guru brackets. If you want to base things exclusively off the pre-contest Guru predictions, then Charizard was a slightly bigger flop than Dante (who had a similar albeit less convincing Guru advantage over Squirtle). If you want to judge things in light of Pokemon's overall domination this contest (Mewtwo, Pikachu, Squirtle, Red, and even Blue), then Charizard is a significantly bigger flop since he's the only Pokemon entrant (sans awful-pic-Lugia) to disappoint. However, if you consider the actual match result, then Charizard can be considered a lesser flop than Dante because he could have easily still won while Dante was hung out to dry. This is a lot of window dressing to try to excuse what a flop Charizard really was. --- Guess who I am! http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs3/1345748_o.gif |
People
are underestimating how much 1 v 1 would hurt Draven. He certainly
would have lost to Link without Shepard. If he ends up here in the 45%
region I say he'd probably lose this one too. So much of his strength
comes from outside of GameFAQs, there is literally SFF between everyone
who isn't him. Most people voting haven't heard of Draven outside of
this contest most likely, which makes the rally even more ridiculous.
That's also why I believe LoL wouldn't necessarily win a GotG contest
if it were even allowed in - keep it 1 v 1 and rallies just can't do
this. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
LeonhartFour posted... I'm surprised yoblazer is still entertaining Red having a chance against Mega Man/Samus. The dude nearly blew a match with Vivi and Squall LFFing each other, and while it's possible Samus and Mega Man will LFF each other, 2007 seemed to suggest it isn't anything significant. This contest stopped being transitive three weeks ago. Red can crush them both and crush Snake in the finals, and some people here would still somehow try to get a read on Vivi through it. It's strange. --- http://i.imgur.com/IjkDZMA.jpg |
It's not a matter of "the contest stopped being transitive." There are limits to the non-transitivity. I mean, if Pikachu or Squirtle (or both!) give Snake a scare tomorrow, I might change my mind, but Red really hasn't been that impressive all contest. --- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o8250gifyd.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o6250gifuv.gif |
Give
Sephiroth 90% of Mewtwo's votes, and Draven is beating Seph 53-47.
From the Link match we know that Draven is capable of more rallying
later in the day if he needs it- or else Link would have won by
thousands of votes. So we'll assume the 53/47 as a fair final
percentage even though Seph is gaining percentage right now. So, how many Noble Niners are stronger than Sephiroth by more than 53/47? Link, for sure. Snake, this year, almost for sure. Cloud, maybe- but it's so easy to rally against Cloud, and I wouldn't trust him at all in a close match with Draven. There probably aren't any other characters I would take to be worth more than 53% on Sephiroth at this point. Remember, Mario/Crono is 53/47 so Mario beating Sephiroth by more than that implies Crono > Sephiroth. Samus is possible but she only got like 55% on Tifa. Megaman.....maybe. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Lightning Strikes posted... People are underestimating how much 1 v 1 would hurt Draven. He certainly would have lost to Link without Shepard. If he ends up here in the 45% region I say he'd probably lose this one too. So much of his strength comes from outside of GameFAQs, there is literally SFF between everyone who isn't him. Most people voting haven't heard of Draven outside of this contest most likely, which makes the rally even more ridiculous. That's also why I believe LoL wouldn't necessarily win a GotG contest if it were even allowed in - keep it 1 v 1 and rallies just can't do this. It doesn't matter what he ends up at,they no longer rally because there is no reason to Mewtwo will need to pull 300 votes per update to win and it means to triple his vote intake Draven would shot up to 53% if they continue the rally but what's the point |
I might. I have that little confidence in Red. --- http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lo22vfguji1qzxr43.gif |
Vivi
scored one of the bigger Round 1 blowouts, beat Mario (with an assist,
but BEAT MARIO) and then beat out Squall and got dangerously close to
Pokefear in the process. We don't need more result to draw reads from
Vivi. He's stronger nowadays. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
Man guys. Are you forgetting how good Zelda looked? Not to mention that Zelda (the series) is THE top dog for Nintendo SFF. Also let's be honest, Mega Man was just as inflated as Charizard. Their percentages would say the same. 45% on THIS Mega Man is pretty good I must say. So anyway, in the hopeful GotG battle, LoL should totally go up against Skyrim in the first round. It would be amazing. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
Oh hey, Sephiroth's over 30% on Draven now and Mewtwo's cutting him. Cool. --- http://gifsoup.com/view/874243/big-boss-o.gif |
I don't think the MM match is very different, if at all, if you substitute another Pokemon in there. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
No Game of the Generation contest please. We just had a GOTD contest. Nothing but a non-generational games contest will do. (1) Final Fantasy VII (16) League of Legends --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
This
match is deceptive - Draven's slowed down because he's got the match
well in hand. Unimpeded rallies (which Draven did *not* get against
Link) would easily have him clear 50% against GameFAQs 1v1 if
threatened. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Draven still didn't get a update lower than 57 (the lowest update he got against Link) ever since his rally came up Those numbers are what unrallied Draven looks like(in this round)- 77,53,54,47,66,69,79,68,76,76,73 And those numbers are what "rally at 20th place" looks like(again,in this round) 88,73,72,79,77,79,92,70,87,71,74 Average of 67 to 78 It was the beginning of the match so we should have expected more votes This...rally at the 20# place is enough to pull about 30 extra votes per update |
red sox 777 posted... No Game of the Generation contest please. We just had a GOTD contest. Nothing but a non-generational games contest will do. FF7 would get crushed. Ocarina of Time losing round 1 would be much funnier! --- I am the dragon of blood, a relentless prince of pain Renouncing God on his throne, my blood is forever stained. |
Not
that easy to clear 50% against Gamefaqs. Draven lost to Link/Shepard
by 13000 in 22.5 hours. In 24 that would have been 15000+. While
Draven's rallies were impeded somewhat in that match, I highly doubt
they were impeded in the range of 15,000 net. Based on my 65/35
estimate last night for rally backfire in Link/Draven, to get 15,000 net
the rallies needs to rally around 45,000 extra votes total. That's 250
votes an update, for 15 straight hours. Now, if we go with a lower backfire percentage- say, 80% for Draven and 20% for Gamefaqs characters- 15,000 net is still 25,000 extra votes. Still almost impossible, and this 80/20 split looks very unlikely anyway given how the last match turned out. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
red sox 777 posted... No Game of the Generation contest please. We just had a GOTD contest. Nothing but a non-generational games contest will do. GotD was three years ago, so I don't think that qualifies as a "just had". You can have a true best game ever contest any time as well. the window for GotG is closing fast. Barring rally shenanigans, a best game ever contest would just go to OoT without any competition. GotG would be split between Skyrim and Brawl, with a couple of potential underdogs not even needing a rally. It also wouldn't be dominated by 90'sFAQs, and would allow a lot of newer games to actually do something. It would be a much better contest than just a straight games contest. Oh, and the multi-option polls we get for current generation games are always SFF-fests, so this will be a good way of actually judging what the most popular seventh generation game on the site is, especially since that's quite debatable. --- Something something something ^Poorly disguised anti-caps sig |
red sox 777 posted... No Game of the Generation contest please. We just had a GOTD contest. Nothing but a non-generational games contest will do. What a waste of FFVII. Seriously, that game could possibly get challenged by a few games that aren't League of Legends, and you want to feed it to LoL round 1? I'd consider boycotting the contest if that happened. Total waste. --- "Stay with me until the end. Please." "Not until the end. Always." |
Yeah
that looks about right, we did have that one small period where draven
was completely unrallied at about the 1:30-2:30 block. It looks like
base draven is worth between 35-40% on seph now in this format. Quite a
big jump from where he started at. He'd obviously be weaker than that
in a 1v1 format though. |
red sox 777 posted... No Game of the Generation contest please. We just had a GOTD contest. Nothing but a non-generational games contest will do. LoL should be a number 1 seed anyway. |
Sorry, if I were actually making the bracket, I wouldn't set up that match! It was just funny to post. Round 1 is probably the best chance for FFVII to win that match though. And I would probably take it. At least with the votals as they are now, based on my foregoing post about how difficult it is for the rally to clear 50%. If votals continue to decline, probably not. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
Also I just realized with Charizard losing, we're going to get a "Two Pokemon vs. Noble Niner" bonus poll before the final. So I hope everyone enjoys tomorrow's match because you'll be seeing it again in a couple of days! Unless Red gets second, I guess. --- http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o8250gifyd.gif http://img.imgcake.com/tumblrmb8ky9zpsk1qd3518o6250gifuv.gif |
They would rally-nominate LoL so hard,it will have more nominations than all 1 seed combined |
LeonhartFour posted... Also I just realized with Charizard losing, we're going to get a "Two Pokemon vs. Noble Niner" bonus poll before the final. ...This is going to be the worst bonus match ever I think people would be more ok with 3 Pokemon than 1 NN and 2 Pokemon It won't prove anything Yeah Samus>Mewtwo>Squirtle whooooo |
Luster
confirmed that the Link/Draven rally never hit the front page of r/all
like X/Ryu did. I have an exceedingly difficult time believing that such
a rally doesn't hit that front page in a True Finals situation. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Lightning Strikes posted... So anyway, in the hopeful GotG battle, LoL should totally go up against Skyrim in the first round. It would be amazing. honestly, Skyrim is probably capable of leeching more LoL rallied votes than OoT |
I wish it will reach /r/all,it will be better for Snake and Mega Man |
Play Puppeteer --- "The people who play Final Fantasy 7 actually have lives and dont NEED polls" ~MajinUltima SuperNiceDog: Bracket: Good, Taste: Bad |
r/all
is okay for Link. It might be okay for Snake too. Link was already
getting a big backfire percentage on r/lol- the additional advantage
Draven gets from it hitting r/all is probably pretty marginal. Against
Mewtwo or X r/all is a bigger advantage. Remember, if you ran a Link
vs. Draven poll on the front page of Reddit.com, I expect Link wins
easily. Rally selection is strong, and so is the power of only naming
Draven in the rally topic. But you'll get a lot of backfiring still. --- 2002, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2010, 2011 10 championships is not enough. ZeldaFAQs thirsts for more. |
lol Mega Man beating Samus --- http://i498.photobucket.com/albums/rr345/Rakaputra/B8%20Girls%202012/pjbas.png SuperNiceDog - 1, pjbasis - 0 |
Play Draven. --- Fine! I'll go to the store and get your Goddamn drain cleaner! Character Battle IX Tingle Victory Parade - the journey is over.... |
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