Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1169

#1 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/10/2013 11:42:08 PM | message detail
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A = Strongest Character
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~*Say What? Common Stats Topic Lingo Defined*~

SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/10/2013 11:49:44 PM | message detail
Welcome back, RallyFAQs.

We didn't miss you.
#3 | Acerac | Posted 9/10/2013 11:51:28 PM | message detail
So I guess rallies are allowed after all.

May the most popular character win. :)
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#4 | Crossfiyah | Posted 9/10/2013 11:52:06 PM | message detail
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?
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#5 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/10/2013 11:52:54 PM | message detail
Oh god I accidentally stole the 500th post and I made a typo and now I can't edit it.
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#6 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/10/2013 11:53:12 PM | message detail
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.
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#7 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/10/2013 11:53:42 PM | message detail
you are allowed to stop caring when mega man loses.
so next time. as he will win this.
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#8 | raytan7585 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/10/2013 11:53:49 PM | message detail
#9 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/10/2013 11:53:50 PM | message detail
From: MegatokyoEd | #006
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

He did. It's because he's from a "joke game" or something.
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#10 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/10/2013 11:54:43 PM | message detail
Look, the rally is doing *something*. That's clear. But I find it much more likely that Draven is drawing 200-vote updates and having 200 votes stuffed than all of these being legitimate. Where were all these votes last round then? Also, it was the same 400 in the first 3 minutes as in each 5-minute window since. That's just weird.
#11 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 11:54:44 PM | message detail
I told you guys the site traffic was a bluff but nooooooo

(I will admit the effect the ad banner has could be marginal)

Still it's pretty clear we ain't getting back to peak votals!
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#12 | Lopen | Posted 9/10/2013 11:55:46 PM | message detail
I'm not sure how the vote totals going up with the topic going back up goes against the idea that there are vote stuffer(s). All it means is the vote stuffer(s) are frequently on Reddit, a mod, or in contact with the mods. One of the above seems likely given that well, what kinda person would bother with this.
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#13 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:00 PM | message detail
Wait, the conspiracy theorists are still going on, and they're not doing it as a joke?

They've surpassed 9/11 Truthers and we never landed on the Moon people at this point.
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#14 | Acerac | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:08 PM | message detail
Crossfiyah posted...
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?


Feel free to do so. Won't stop me and many others from continuing to enjoy the contests. :)
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#15 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:12 PM | message detail
Ugh. I just. Ugh. It sucks so goddamn much.
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#16 | Dr_Football | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:12 PM | message detail
I feel bad for people who went to sleep happy with mewtwo in the lead
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#17 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:31 PM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Welcome back, RallyFAQs.

We didn't miss you.

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#18 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/10/2013 11:56:48 PM | message detail
Dr_Football posted...
I feel bad for people who went to sleep happy with mewtwo in the lead


This is why I stayed up.
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#19 | AppreciateTrees | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:25 PM | message detail | (edited)
lol
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#20 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:13 PM | message detail
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.
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#21 | SBAllen (Admin) | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:22 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.
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#22 | Qwaar | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:42 PM | message detail
Dr_Football posted...
I feel bad for people who went to sleep happy with mewtwo in the lead


Yeah, but they'll have happy dreams for a few hours before waking up to a nightmare. You should envy them.
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#23 | ff6man | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:47 PM | message detail
Well this match was fun while it lasted. Don't have to watch to see how this turns out. Lol at Allen not being "totally convinced" Draven would win.
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#24 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/10/2013 11:57:51 PM | message detail
Ah, right. Allen allows huge updates like these to go unchecked. There's no way he'd intervene for something as "small-scale" as Mega Man swinging 75 votes in only two updates.

Damnit. Now that Draven's back on track to dominate this contest, those final fishy updates look like they cost me the Guru.
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#25 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:26 PM | message detail
From: SBAllen | #021
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


This is worse than my paraphrasing of your previous explanation.
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#26 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:27 PM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


Wait, you can't just say "because" and expect that to suffice!
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#27 | ff6man | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:29 PM | message detail
Solioxrz362 posted...
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Welcome back, RallyFAQs.

We didn't miss you.

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#28 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:32 PM | message detail
Been checking in on my phone periodically up to now. Was not too happy to see Mewtwo's lead go from 100 to 2000, but felt there was a strong possibility of this happening at some point in the match. And now it's happening.

It's a shame Sephiroth is so far from Mewtwo though.
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#29 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:38 PM | message detail
Jakyl25 posted...
I think both messages to Reddit were from Allen.

He just wanted to take 90 minutes from Draven to even out the 90 minutes Link lost last time.

Now they're even, right?


Reposting this because it feels too true at this point. This is a Russo tier swerve!
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#30 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:40 PM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


Where you at Chris?

Where you at everyone else defending this guy?
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#31 | Xuxon | Posted 9/10/2013 11:58:53 PM | message detail
From: Then00bAvenger | Posted: 9/11/2013 2:56:00 AM | #013
Wait, the conspiracy theorists are still going on, and they're not doing it as a joke?

They've surpassed 9/11 Truthers and we never landed on the Moon people at this point.

it's not at all. honestly, this occurrence is far less surprising than it would have been if Draven had actually lost, that's how strong the evidence for cheating is in past rounds.
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#32 | TheOneAboveAll | Posted 9/10/2013 11:59:08 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.


What you are saying is completely true. I just have one question for you: How does that make any sense at all?? It's the same rally. It's the same Draven. Why would SF Draven and R2 Draven basically double R3 Draven? I'll give you a hint. It involves Draven getting lots of fake votes in these two matches.
#33 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:02 AM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


So Allen, are we going to hear what happened with the "certain GameFAQs mod" who told the LoL subreddit that they couldn't post rally threads anymore?
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#34 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:18 AM | message detail
whoever wins the guru should use barkley as their nom.
since if that's the kind of response, well, that's the kind of reaction that should be given.
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#35 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:22 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.


What you are saying is completely true. I just have one question for you: How does that make any sense at all?? It's the same rally. It's the same Draven. Why would SF Draven and R2 Draven basically double R3 Draven? I'll give you a hint. It involves Draven getting lots of fake votes in these two matches.


I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but Draven's rally never hit r/all in that match to my knowledge.

It did tonight and in X/Ryu.
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#36 | wedgeskywalker9 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:24 AM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


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#37 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:25 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.


What you are saying is completely true. I just have one question for you: How does that make any sense at all?? It's the same rally. It's the same Draven. Why would SF Draven and R2 Draven basically double R3 Draven? I'll give you a hint. It involves Draven getting lots of fake votes in these two matches.


Or because of hype. You DID check how many deletions and blockades there were in R3 compared to R2 and 4, right?
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#38 | backinblack167 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:27 AM | message detail
TheOneAboveAll posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.


What you are saying is completely true. I just have one question for you: How does that make any sense at all?? It's the same rally. It's the same Draven. Why would SF Draven and R2 Draven basically double R3 Draven? I'll give you a hint. It involves Draven getting lots of fake votes in these two matches.


So why did the "fake votes" not come until the rally topic came back up?
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#39 | raytan7585 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:44 AM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


I'm still waiting for your reason!!!
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#40 | Unrivaled_T3R0R | Posted 9/11/2013 12:00:48 AM | message detail
90% of Link's votes last round came from reddit. The gamefaqs rallies that everyone is so proud of did almost nothing.

This contest is in the palm of reddit's hand and the only reason Draven was threatened last round was because reddit didn't care about the result and genuinely liked Link.
#41 | mumbo230 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:16 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
And Draven is getting so many more votes than he got against Link because he's stronger in this match than he was against Link. Link got very, very lucky in facing a significantly weaker Draven than was showcased in X/Ryu. Mewtwo struggling to avoid the tripling each update is about as good as he can hope for.

Link could have ended this nightmare...and he got so damn close, too.

He went down as a martyr, but alas, it seems nothing will stop this mad rampage. Unless Mega Man can pull off an even more impossible upset.
#42 | UltimaterializerX | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:16 AM | message detail
Direct rallying from other places should be disallowed. Simple as that.
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#43 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:20 AM | message detail
Mewtwo is pulling in Link-like updates here. Still not enough. What is up with this match.

I can think of two solutions:

1-Someone make a thread asking the reddit people to NOT vote for Draven.
2-Someone get Keiji Inafune himself to rally for Mega Man.
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#44 | xp1337 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:25 AM | message detail
Wanglicious posted...
whoever wins the guru should use barkley as their nom.
since if that's the kind of response, well, that's the kind of reaction that should be given.

I imagine it'd be ignored!
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#45 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:33 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...

I love conspiracy theories as much as the next guy, but Draven's rally never hit r/all in that match to my knowledge.

It did tonight and in X/Ryu.


one problem with this theory:
it still did
#46 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/11/2013 12:01:45 AM | message detail
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


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#47 | Solioxrz362 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:02:07 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
SBAllen posted...
MegatokyoEd posted...
I still want to hear Allen explain how Barkley isn't allowed because he's a real guy and Lu Bu is.

Because.


So Allen, are we going to hear what happened with the "certain GameFAQs mod" who told the LoL subreddit that they couldn't post rally threads anymore?

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#48 | backinblack167 | Posted 9/11/2013 12:02:33 AM | message detail
Unrivaled_T3R0R posted...
the only reason Draven was threatened


was threatened? We're talking about a poll where a missing 90 minutes possibly swung the match.
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#49 | ChichiriMuyo | Posted 9/11/2013 12:02:53 AM | message detail
Crossfiyah posted...
It's ok guys.

SBell put up a banner

He deserves our respect and admiration.

Can we just...not make match pics anymore? As a collective? Can we just stop caring about these contests now?


Again, I say, GTFO. The contests are the only reason this board exists, and it has shrunk in the wake of contests utterly sucking or not existing at all. If that's really how you feel about the thing that brought us together in the first place why are you here?
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#50 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/11/2013 12:03:14 AM | message detail
You've done it, Allen. You've drained all the fight out of me. I can't even tell you why you suck anymore. Why this sucks. It just does. It's the worst thing to happen on here since XIII is cool got banned. Whole thing is just gross, horrifyingly gross. Not mad. Just...sad.
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