Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1165

#401 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/10/2013 7:24:06 PM | message detail
Shame about the rally. However, if Mega Man can somehow win the whole damn contest, and he just might, it would make a rally to overcome unfavourable placement worth it.

Speaking of which, that Draven rally is starting to climb Reddit, and hasn't been deleted yet. Crisis alert! Strongly advise countermeasures. Oh RallyFAQs.
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#402 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:24:07 PM | message detail
A third of Charizard's lead, just like that. I..........believe.
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#403 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 7:24:20 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
What the...how is Mega Man actually challenging Charizard?!?!?! This entire match makes no sense...even with Mega Man boosting due to the Smash announcement, Charizard should be boosted from the version that got rSFFed last round, and there's a freaking MMX character in the match! Mega Man even being closer to Charizard than to Zero, let alone being close enough to threaten Charizard, is F***ING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You mean right. SUPER FIGHTING ROBOT
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#404 | SerperiorThanU | Posted 9/10/2013 7:24:27 PM | message detail
LordoftheMorons posted...
GloriousSweater posted...
If Mewtwo beats Draven (likely because of LoL people no longer caring or simply forgetting) and gives Snake a free contest, will that significantly increase or alter your appreciation of this Character Battle?

This character battle has already cemented itself as the worst character battle due to every close match ever (and some not so close matches) being decided by rallies. After such a promising first round, too! Mewtwo or Snake beating Draven will make it slightly less bad, but there's no recovery at this point.


Yeah, it's so much worse than the same nine characters winning over and over and over again.
#405 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:24:38 PM | message detail
The primary r/lol thread is getting upvote spammed (the hypocrisy is hilarious) and the mods who were deleting those threads are long gone. Enjoy this match, because the next one should be yet another foregone conclusion.

Just like last time at the end of Draven/Link
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#406 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/10/2013 7:25:02 PM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
You know what match might not be decided by a rally.

This one.


MEGA MAAAAAAAAAN


Technically, this is being decided by a rally. Somebody got some famous dude on FB to tell his followers to vote for Mega Man a while ago. He cut about 200 votes shortly after that, then stalled again for a while before the SNV kicked in.
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#407 | xp1337 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:25:43 PM | message detail
I actually legitimately think Mega Man can do this!

If he can take the lead before the final hour he might have a chance to build something to cling to!
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#408 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/10/2013 7:25:54 PM | message detail
Well yeah, there's a rally. I don't think 184 updates really happen around this time unless there's something special going on
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#409 | SubDeity | Posted 9/10/2013 7:26:00 PM | message detail
Not a famous dude, just a pro-Mega Man FB page.
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#410 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:26:29 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
The primary r/lol thread is getting upvote spammed (the hypocrisy is hilarious) and the mods who were deleting those threads are long gone. Enjoy this match, because the next one should be yet another foregone conclusion.


All it really takes is for one rally topic to be visible on the front page of the LoL subreddit for like 30 minutes or so to give Draven enough votes to hold off any potential comeback by Mewtwo or Sephiroth.
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#411 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:26:33 PM | message detail
The vote intake numbers indicate that MM is being rallied. Can't tell for Charizard at a glance.
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#412 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:26:42 PM | message detail
Almost there
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#413 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 7:27:33 PM | message detail | (edited)
F***ing beastly performance.

Rallied, but still, close enough for the rally to count for something.
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#414 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/10/2013 7:27:13 PM | message detail
SubDeity posted...
Not a famous dude, just a pro-Mega Man FB page.


Ok, I stand corrected. I knew it was something on FB.

I'd ask the same of the Pokemon fan page, but I don't see any way to contact the person who runs it.
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#415 | xp1337 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:27:28 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
The primary r/lol thread is getting upvote spammed (the hypocrisy is hilarious) and the mods who were deleting those threads are long gone. Enjoy this match, because the next one should be yet another foregone conclusion.

Just like last time at the end of Draven/Link

Did we honestly expect a different outcome?

I'm not even being bitterly rhetorical here. I mean, did anyone genuinely doubt that the Draven rallies would reappear and be supported? We had this kind of thing play out in the middle of the Link match. The idea of rallies being cracked down on here was absurd!
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#416 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:27:33 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
The primary r/lol thread is getting upvote spammed (the hypocrisy is hilarious) and the mods who were deleting those threads are long gone. Enjoy this match, because the next one should be yet another foregone conclusion.


All it really takes is for one rally topic to be visible on the front page of the LoL subreddit for like 30 minutes or so to give Draven enough votes to hold off any potential comeback by Mewtwo or Sephiroth.


"all it takes is a couple of hours on the front page of the LoL subreddit to give Draven enough votes to beat Link"-everyone before Link's match
#417 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:27:52 PM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
Well yeah, there's a rally. I don't think 184 updates really happen around this time unless there's something special going on


You're right, 184 vote updates at this time of the day is unusually high, especially in a match that ends up getting about 49000 votes without any rallying at all.
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#418 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 7:28:42 PM | message detail
I'm not saying this should be unexpected, I'm just marveling at the fact that they're breaking reddit's rules to interfere in the contest. It throws the pathetic protests of this being fair play into sharp relief.
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#419 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:28:47 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
"all it takes is a couple of hours on the front page of the LoL subreddit to give Draven enough votes to beat Link"-everyone before Link's match


Link is a completely different beast compared to Mewtwo or Sephiroth.
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#420 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2013 7:30:07 PM | message detail
We've still got ninety minutes for the rallies to be deleted. I'm not really that concerned!
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#421 | gearofages | Posted 9/10/2013 7:30:08 PM | message detail
I'm sure the Reddit topic is helping Mega Man. That makes the most sense to me.
#422 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:30:13 PM | message detail
Some math on Draven: Suppose Draven gets 50,000 votes- less than he got against Link despite having 90 minutes extra and less loss of rallied votes to the other side.

Gamefaqs matches pull in around 45,000 votes naturally. If 5000 of that is for Draven, then Mewtwo and Seph split the other 40,000 about 50/50. Mewtwo needs to then rally about 30,000 votes, net, to catch Draven. Squirtle demonstrated about 5,000 net against Cloud.
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#423 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:31:10 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
We've still got ninety minutes for the rallies to be deleted. I'm not really that concerned!


A lot of the people who saw the rally topic before it got deleted will probably remember to vote in the match. So don't be surprised if Draven has the lead at the freeze.
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#424 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/10/2013 7:31:37 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
What the...how is Mega Man actually challenging Charizard?!?!?! This entire match makes no sense...even with Mega Man boosting due to the Smash announcement, Charizard should be boosted from the version that got rSFFed last round, and there's a freaking MMX character in the match! Mega Man even being closer to Charizard than to Zero, let alone being close enough to threaten Charizard, is F***ING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Maybe beause Charizard was weaker 2010 would have you believe? And after seeing Kratos bombing... You should've been able to read "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin" at that point.
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#425 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:31:59 PM | message detail
MM could get the lead with 1 big update.
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#426 | raginbull911 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:31:59 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Some math on Draven: Suppose Draven gets 50,000 votes- less than he got against Link despite having 90 minutes extra and less loss of rallied votes to the other side.

Gamefaqs matches pull in around 45,000 votes naturally. If 5000 of that is for Draven, then Mewtwo and Seph split the other 40,000 about 50/50. Mewtwo needs to then rally about 30,000 votes, net, to catch Draven. Squirtle demonstrated about 5,000 net against Cloud.


The other important factor is what percentage of votes coming in from the Reddit topic actually go to Draven. Obviously it'll be a significant majority, but it won't be 100%. I'm confident Link got a fair bet of indirect strength from the LoL topic too.
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#427 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/10/2013 7:32:15 PM | message detail
might need to reload that cutman ammo again soon...
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#428 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:32:39 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Some math on Draven: Suppose Draven gets 50,000 votes- less than he got against Link despite having 90 minutes extra and less loss of rallied votes to the other side.

Gamefaqs matches pull in around 45,000 votes naturally. If 5000 of that is for Draven, then Mewtwo and Seph split the other 40,000 about 50/50. Mewtwo needs to then rally about 30,000 votes, net, to catch Draven. Squirtle demonstrated about 5,000 net against Cloud.


well, even in your own analysis you forgot to give Mewtwo/Sephiroth some LoL rallied votes!
#429 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 7:32:42 PM | message detail
The deleting mods are gone. The rally topic will not be deleted. Not before the match has been more or less decided, anyway.
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#430 | chaos12391 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:32:56 PM | message detail
I'm sure this has been pointed out but even though link lost, he's gotten more votes than almost all of the other matches had TOTAL separately ofc. I find that really surprising.
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#431 | Haste_2 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:08 PM | message detail
I kind of wish it was 11:30 instead of 10:30 right now. I fear Charizard's retaliation.
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#432 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:08 PM | message detail
chaos12391 posted...
I'm sure this has been pointed out but even though link lost, he's gotten more votes than almost all of the other matches had TOTAL separately ofc. I find that really surprising.


Because our votals have been sucking or because Link performed like LInk?
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#433 | gearofages | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:19 PM | message detail
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1m57gk/in_3_hours_draven_is_up_again_in_gamefaqs/

Report it, if nothing else. The topic is blatantly against the rules.
#434 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:42 PM | message detail
Oops. I thought I was doing everything with net numbers, but it looks like I wasn't!

Link got a ton of rallied votes, both on his own side and from LoL. Plus it was the match of the contest and everyone knew it- such matches tend to get much higher votals than normal matches.
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#435 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:58 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
The deleting mods are gone. The rally topic will not be deleted. Not before the match has been more or less decided, anyway.


You worry too much.

Trust me. They'll be deleted.
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#436 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 7:34:59 PM | message detail
Haste_2 posted...
I kind of wish it was 11:30 instead of 10:30 right now. I fear Charizard's retaliation.


No, time is in Rock's favor. He NEEDS some time to build a lead for the counter-rally. If we were in the final half-hour of the match I'd feel really bad about his chances.
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#437 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:36:00 PM | message detail
What kind of lead can he hope to build in the next 30 minutes?
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#438 | Surskit | Posted 9/10/2013 7:36:03 PM | message detail
So I'm completely clueless about Reddit. What does it mean if there's a dot instead of a number in the middle of the up/downvotes?
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#439 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:36:19 PM | message detail
Vote totals for tomorrow's match will lower than Draven's last match, but I think we might see anywhere between 70000 and 100000 votes tomorrow.
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#440 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:36:43 PM | message detail
Rally topic already at number 8
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#441 | Surskit | Posted 9/10/2013 7:37:15 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
Haste_2 posted...
I kind of wish it was 11:30 instead of 10:30 right now. I fear Charizard's retaliation.


No, time is in Rock's favor. He NEEDS some time to build a lead for the counter-rally. If we were in the final half-hour of the match I'd feel really bad about his chances.


ok I've been wondering for a while
why do you call him rock
I know it's his Japanese name but it's weird, it'd be like suddenly calling Charizard Lizardon.
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#442 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:37:39 PM | message detail
So I'm completely clueless about Reddit. What does it mean if there's a dot instead of a number in the middle of the up/downvotes?

The number does not show up for a while
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#443 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 7:38:43 PM | message detail


ok I've been wondering for a while
why do you call him rock
I know it's his Japanese name but it's weird, it'd be like suddenly calling Charizard Lizardon.


Because it sounds better than simply 'Mega' when cheering him on. He's Megaman to me, but I need my cheers to have a good ring to them for them to be worth something!
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#444 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/10/2013 7:40:11 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Rally topic already at number 8


Oh wow, already on the front page of the LoL subreddit. However, it means the topic will be more visible to the mods as well.
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#445 | RockMFR | Posted 9/10/2013 7:41:25 PM | message detail
Single digits baby!
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#446 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/10/2013 7:41:32 PM | message detail
6 more votes.
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#447 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2013 7:42:06 PM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Rally topic already at number 8


Oh wow, already on the front page of the LoL subreddit. However, it means the topic will be more visible to the mods as well.


See? I told you guys you worried too much.
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#448 | HaRRicH | Posted 9/10/2013 7:42:25 PM | message detail
I can hear the Mega Buster charging for the next update.....
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#449 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 7:42:26 PM | message detail
lmao charizard you are really choking, you're really doing it
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#450 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/10/2013 7:42:34 PM | message detail
6 more votes, then Power Stone Charizard down!
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