Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1165

#151 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:30:31 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Allen is incompetent


yes we know, there's not much we can do about that in the near future!
#152 | Averia | Posted 9/10/2013 3:30:37 PM | message detail
I'm scared of the amount of rage there will be if Draven wins without any rally staying and that no stuffing is found.
#153 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/10/2013 3:31:05 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld, I am going to assume someone did not make a photobucket account and upload a picture of one of fr0zon's posts to it solely to impersonate you.

Can your reddit alt names from now on clearly indicate it's you? It would make it a lot easier for me to stalk you.


If you're going to stalk me, you should at least make sure it's actually me you're stalking. I'd hate to get the credit for somebody else's work.
Hey, maybe you've got another stalker posting images of board 8 from [redacted].

Who am I to say?


I don't know how you found my photobucket account, but if you're going to start posting my private information, I'm going to report you to the admins for doxxing.
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#154 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:32:02 PM | message detail
Everyone has the right to do those things but that doesn't mean everyone should.


Contests are about dominance. We don't ask that the all-stars of a sport play down to the level of the scrubbier professional competition. Why ask for moderate rallies?

(But then, I'll admit I'm weird like that and like seeing those who are the very best show off just how good they are and have only close losses to challengers. So I can see how you might not agree witht hat)
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#155 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:33:11 PM | message detail
Petty idea of subterfuge?

If those innocents are spammed with our contest crap to over the top proportions they're going to get annoyed with it and want it out of their sight.
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#156 | Averia | Posted 9/10/2013 3:33:11 PM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld, I am going to assume someone did not make a photobucket account and upload a picture of one of fr0zon's posts to it solely to impersonate you.

Can your reddit alt names from now on clearly indicate it's you? It would make it a lot easier for me to stalk you.


If you're going to stalk me, you should at least make sure it's actually me you're stalking. I'd hate to get the credit for somebody else's work.
Hey, maybe you've got another stalker posting images of board 8 from [redacted].

Who am I to say?


I don't know how you found my photobucket account, but if you're going to start posting my private information, I'm going to report you to the admins for doxxing.


It was in a reddit thread that got deleted.
#157 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:33:47 PM | message detail
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.
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#158 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 3:34:13 PM | message detail
"how dare you post my photobucket account of rallies im reportin you" lmao
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#159 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/10/2013 3:34:47 PM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
Greyfeld, I am going to assume someone did not make a photobucket account and upload a picture of one of fr0zon's posts to it solely to impersonate you.

Can your reddit alt names from now on clearly indicate it's you? It would make it a lot easier for me to stalk you.


If you're going to stalk me, you should at least make sure it's actually me you're stalking. I'd hate to get the credit for somebody else's work.
Hey, maybe you've got another stalker posting images of board 8 from [redacted].

Who am I to say?


I don't know how you found my photobucket account, but if you're going to start posting my private information, I'm going to report you to the admins for doxxing.
Oh, so it is yours?

Since it's private, you either showed that picture to someone else or you've been hacked.

Go change all your passwords man! They could be getting into your financial information and gamefaqs account as we speak!
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#160 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 9/10/2013 3:34:55 PM | message detail
Averia posted...
I'm scared of the amount of rage there will be if Draven wins without any rally staying and that no stuffing is found.


That's impossible at this point. Draven without rallies is low tier fodder.
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#161 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 3:35:21 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
I've got some news that might disappoint you.

Those people, the ones you saw flooding our board last week. They are going to think this REGARDLESS of what we do.

We could all take the day off and go fishing (sup Nick) as that match goes on, and they're still going to think we're all buttfurious Nintendrones no matter what.


Some will, because they see what they want to see. The trolls we saw post-Draven/Link wanted the board to be full of Link fanboys (when it really isn't) because it made their trolling more fun and entertaining and enjoyable. They aren't the problem - they are as deluded as they are spiteful and nothing was ever going to change their attitude. But mob mentality is a powerful thing and playing into that stereotype even remotely - which is exactly what these deceitful plots are doing - just convinces more and more people that we're "in the wrong". And the more people who believe that Draven's cause is the right one, the more people who will rally for him.

they're going to be mad at us for.....making more rally topics
m'kay


When the motives are shown to be underhanded, as they are by discussing it here, yes. Spamming the forum with rally topics while not actually discussing it here would just lead to confusion, before eventually someone would catch on. Either way it's wrong, but doing it while talking about it openly is both wrong and dumb.
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#162 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:36:13 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.


Hey ExTha, when are you gonna fly down here to beat me up? I mean, I'm pretty sure I told you my address. Still waiting on you bro
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#163 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:37:31 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Some will, because they see what they want to see. The trolls we saw post-Draven/Link wanted the board to be full of Link fanboys (when it really isn't) because it made their trolling more fun and entertaining and enjoyable. They aren't the problem - they are as deluded as they are spiteful and nothing was ever going to change their attitude. But mob mentality is a powerful thing and playing into that stereotype even remotely - which is exactly what these deceitful plots are doing - just convinces more and more people that we're "in the wrong". And the more people who believe that Draven's cause is the right one, the more people who will rally for him.

they're going to be mad at us for.....making more rally topics
m'kay


When the motives are shown to be underhanded, as they are by discussing it here, yes. Spamming the forum with rally topics while not actually discussing it here would just lead to confusion, before eventually someone would catch on. Either way it's wrong, but doing it while talking about it openly is both wrong and dumb.


look
one of them will pretend to be a board 8 member to make a "butthurt" post that will then be quoted
this is logic 101 here
#164 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 3:38:01 PM | message detail | (edited)
kanz you don't live anywhere near new orleans do you
just asking in a completely innocent way
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#165 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:38:47 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.


Hey ExTha, when are you gonna fly down here to beat me up? I mean, I'm pretty sure I told you my address. Still waiting on you bro


You did? I didn't see it. In any case why would I waste the money on a plane ticket.
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#166 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:38:51 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.


Hey ExTha, when are you gonna fly down here to beat me up? I mean, I'm pretty sure I told you my address. Still waiting on you bro


hey Kanz, when is your post quality going to stop sucking? I mean, you've had 4 1/2 years to step it up. Still waiting bro
#167 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:39:14 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
kanz you don't live anywhere near new orleans do you
just asking in a completely innocent way


No, I'm in another subcontinent entirely. It'd be one long ride to get where I am. Would make for a nice vacation though!
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#168 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:39:41 PM | message detail
The real issue was Allen's "don't like it? rally your own personal army" comment. Tolerating rallying as an uncontrollable element of these contests is one thing but to actively encourage is inviting the kind of chaos we've been seeing. That comment laid out the marker that these tournaments are dead for any sort of consistency or merit for analysis.
I don't know why anyone expected fair handling of the Link/Draven situation when the legitimately stronger character winning these polls was quite clearly not on his agenda.
#169 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:39:49 PM | message detail
oh right, you're Brazilian.
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#170 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 3:40:46 PM | message detail
Petty idea of subterfuge?

If those innocents are spammed with our contest crap to over the top proportions they're going to get annoyed with it and want it out of their sight.


Right, but they're not disconnected from the rest of their community. Somebody asks "what was with all those annoying rally topics?" someone answers "it was board 8's idea to flood the subreddit with topics to get any rally topic deleted". Suddenly it's not "f*** this stupid contest get off my subreddit jeez". It becomes "wow board 8 f***ing sucks what a sad bunch of losers let's crush these assclowns." More trolls. More hostility. And more votes for Draven.
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#171 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:41:42 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...


You did? I didn't see it. In any case why would I waste the money on a plane ticket.


Because clearly you don't like me, and of course, threatening death or physical harm on someone else right to their face while they can see yours is a serious thing. Surely a real man such as yourself would never say such things carelessly just to blow off steam while behind a monitor. Why, that'd make you a pasty internet tough guy! I'd never even dare to think you're that kinda man.

1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.


Hey ExTha, when are you gonna fly down here to beat me up? I mean, I'm pretty sure I told you my address. Still waiting on you bro


hey Kanz, when is your post quality going to stop sucking? I mean, you've had 4 1/2 years to step it up. Still waiting bro


Wait, you unignored me? When did this happen?
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#172 | OnionOfMystery | Posted 9/10/2013 3:41:47 PM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
The real issue was Allen's "don't like it? rally your own personal army" comment. Tolerating rallying as an uncontrollable element of these contests is one thing but to actively encourage is inviting the kind of chaos we've been seeing. That comment laid out the marker that these tournaments are dead for any sort of consistency or merit for analysis.
I don't know why anyone expected fair handling of the Link/Draven situation when the legitimately stronger character winning these polls was quite clearly not on his agenda.


It's one of the first rules on the main contest page. It was not a fine print line after an asterisk at the bottom of the page. This was never a problem until Draven actually used it right.
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#173 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:42:02 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Petty idea of subterfuge?

If those innocents are spammed with our contest crap to over the top proportions they're going to get annoyed with it and want it out of their sight.


Right, but they're not disconnected from the rest of their community. Somebody asks "what was with all those annoying rally topics?" someone answers "it was board 8's idea to flood the subreddit with topics to get any rally topic deleted". Suddenly it's not "f*** this stupid contest get off my subreddit jeez". It becomes "wow board 8 f***ing sucks what a sad bunch of losers let's crush these assclowns." More trolls. More hostility. And more votes for Draven.


the place is flooded with rallies already
#174 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:42:16 PM | message detail
XIII_rocks posted...
Petty idea of subterfuge?

If those innocents are spammed with our contest crap to over the top proportions they're going to get annoyed with it and want it out of their sight.


Right, but they're not disconnected from the rest of their community. Somebody asks "what was with all those annoying rally topics?" someone answers "it was board 8's idea to flood the subreddit with topics to get any rally topic deleted". Suddenly it's not "f*** this stupid contest get off my subreddit jeez". It becomes "wow board 8 f***ing sucks what a sad bunch of losers let's crush these assclowns." More trolls. More hostility. And more votes for Draven.


Ah I guess this makes sense.

In any case I deleted my post.
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#175 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:42:44 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
oh right, you're Brazilian.


Real talk, this actually annoyed me more than the internet tough guy posting. Don't be so ignorant about geography and the world please. You give people with a chance at schooling themselves properly a bad name.
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#176 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:43:40 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...


You did? I didn't see it. In any case why would I waste the money on a plane ticket.


Because clearly you don't like me, and of course, threatening death or physical harm on someone else right to their face while they can see yours is a serious thing. Surely a real man such as yourself would never say such things carelessly just to blow off steam while behind a monitor. Why, that'd make you a pasty internet tough guy! I'd never even dare to think you're that kinda man.

1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...
ExThaNemesis posted...
No one agrees with anything that you've ever said, Kanz.


Hey ExTha, when are you gonna fly down here to beat me up? I mean, I'm pretty sure I told you my address. Still waiting on you bro


hey Kanz, when is your post quality going to stop sucking? I mean, you've had 4 1/2 years to step it up. Still waiting bro


Wait, you unignored me? When did this happen?


When did I ever threaten you physically? If I did, I don't remember it.
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#177 | xp1337 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:43:41 PM | message detail
I really think Board 8's "influence" over this is overstated.

Regardless of whatever this board does, we apparently have a "reputation" and that's going to override whatever the facts show or suggest. They already have, honestly. And if anyone wants to pin the blame on the board for something we're not doing all they need to do is make a post here and quote it and all of a sudden the entire board is seen as guilty.

Whatever is going to happen is going to happen.
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#178 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:44:39 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
I really think Board 8's "influence" over this is overstated.

Regardless of whatever this board does, we apparently have a "reputation" and that's going to override whatever the facts show or suggest. They already have, honestly. And if anyone wants to pin the blame on the board for something we're not doing all they need to do is make a post here and quote it and all of a sudden the entire board is seen as guilty.

Whatever is going to happen is going to happen.


see, this guy gets it
they're going to manufacture some crap, Fox News style regardless, so....
#179 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:44:50 PM | message detail
What internet tough guy posting? Stop making yourself into a victim. I think you're a deplorable little attention whore but that's it.
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#180 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:45:37 PM | message detail
Aaaand Mega Man falling apart. God f***ing damnit
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#181 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 3:45:58 PM | message detail
the place is flooded with rallies already

I don't see any! And besides, if it's their community doing it that's not a problem. If they frame us for doing it, that would also suck, but that's still better than us doing it.
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#182 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:45:58 PM | message detail

When did I ever threaten you physically? If I did, I don't remember it.


Tinychat. Amidst the flurry of insults you did, repeatedly, mention you wanted to find me and beat me up. So I told you my continent, country and city and now I'm waiting for you to come down here. I'd tell you my specific address, but you'd probably use it for some dumb pranky stuff instead of what it's meant for. If you ever decide to pay my country a visit, do make an ATTN topic and I'll PM you where to find me!
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#183 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:46:38 PM | message detail
KanzarisKelshen posted...

When did I ever threaten you physically? If I did, I don't remember it.


Tinychat. Amidst the flurry of insults you did, repeatedly, mention you wanted to find me and beat me up. So I told you my continent, country and city and now I'm waiting for you to come down here. I'd tell you my specific address, but you'd probably use it for some dumb pranky stuff instead of what it's meant for. If you ever decide to pay my country a visit, do make an ATTN topic and I'll PM you where to find me!


stop trolling
#184 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/10/2013 3:46:43 PM | message detail
Why would anyone want to go to Brazil
#185 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:47:17 PM | message detail
It has hot women in there right?
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#186 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/10/2013 3:47:19 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Why would anyone want to go to Brazil


Exactly.
#187 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/10/2013 3:48:15 PM | message detail
Hey, everybody!

Shut up!
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#188 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/10/2013 3:48:34 PM | message detail
there are still people responding to kanz

still

that's the real tragedy of this contest
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#189 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/10/2013 3:49:00 PM | message detail
I see we're in the spirit of tonight's match already.
#190 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:49:15 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Why would anyone want to go to Brazil


World Cup next year.

Oh and you mean the tinychat where I got hammered? Yeah I probably said that there, along with the myriad of other things I say in playing to my audience when I'm on there.

I can tell that it bothered you though, and for that I'm glad.
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#191 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:49:28 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
KanzarisKelshen posted...

When did I ever threaten you physically? If I did, I don't remember it.


Tinychat. Amidst the flurry of insults you did, repeatedly, mention you wanted to find me and beat me up. So I told you my continent, country and city and now I'm waiting for you to come down here. I'd tell you my specific address, but you'd probably use it for some dumb pranky stuff instead of what it's meant for. If you ever decide to pay my country a visit, do make an ATTN topic and I'll PM you where to find me!


stop trolling


Maybe when people stop being tools~
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#192 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:50:50 PM | message detail
ExThaNemesis posted...
Fr0zoN posted...
Why would anyone want to go to Brazil


World Cup next year.

Oh and you mean the tinychat where I got hammered? Yeah I probably said that there, along with the myriad of other things I say in playing to my audience when I'm on there.

I can tell that it bothered you though, and for that I'm glad.


Man, you got hammered in what, two seconds flat? The hell happened to being able to hold one's alcohol? I honestly thought you were totally lucid because it never even crossed my mind that you'd be drunk from so little (or alternatively, that you'd been drinking for most of the day already, if you've got decent tolerance).
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#193 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:53:37 PM | message detail | (edited)
I drank several glasses of straight scotch, and I am a relatively small person.

Man, you are really *edit*buttfurious that I threatened you!
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#194 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/10/2013 3:54:03 PM | message detail | (edited)
Some would say he is......... butthurt

EDIT DAMMIT STEALTH EDIT
#195 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:53:51 PM | message detail
Fr0zoN posted...
Some would say he is......... butthurt


heh!
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#196 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/10/2013 3:54:12 PM | message detail
Oh, so you were drinking for a while. That baffles me because I don't see what the big occasion was, but in that case that makes more sense!
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#197 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/10/2013 3:55:53 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
there are still people responding to kanz

still

that's the real tragedy of this contest


Honestly if he is made to feel completely rejected and shunned by 99% of the board, that's actually better than just ignoring him.

As I've said before, I would write him off and ignore him if he was just a Strahax. But he's motivated by something more than just trolling. And as a result, the community's response to him should be more severe than the mass-ignore Strahax generally merits. He might be trolling now and then, but he is not purely and totally a troll. His personality, his actions, everything he has done merits far more abuse than "the silent treatment". Kanz might love attention, but I firmly believe that nobody likes totally negative attention all the time.
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#198 | Fr0zoN | Posted 9/10/2013 3:56:39 PM | message detail
At least we know he lives in Brazil so 99% of us live in better countries than him. That's something I guess.
#199 | Sorozone | Posted 9/10/2013 3:57:16 PM | message detail
Strahax is pretty great in comparison.
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#200 | ExThaNemesis | Posted 9/10/2013 3:57:36 PM | message detail
XIC is on point.

Look at how buttfru-nope can't do it

Look at how upset he is by some stuff I drunkenly said to him in tinychat. That's worth more to me than just ignoring like we do to Strahax.
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