Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1163

#251 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/9/2013 1:35:33 AM | message detail
So I check the results since I just woke up.
1)Tifa with around 45% on Samus. And man at night she rocks.
2)Vivi is beating Squall? I guess there are rallies for him.
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#252 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 1:36:05 AM | message detail
This isn't an anything performance for Squall because nothing about this match is legit. He's losing to a guy who's only in first because he's the independent option and a guy benefiting from a bandwagon because he beat Mario.

Not sure why people are surprised this could happen. This has been a recurring trend throughout this whole contest. Squall isn't immune to SFF or bandwagons. If Mario isn't, why should Squall be?

And even so, he's already at 38% on Red who's benefiting from LFF and he's at 43% on a clearly bandwagoned Vivi. And those percentages are only going to go up. Squall would not lose to Vivi if they were both at natural strength, but if people want to believe that's suddenly the case, feel free. Like I said, I'll gladly take the free points from all of you who'd make that pick. I almost took 'em last round because of everyone who thought Charizard's bandwagons against Bowser and Mario meant anything!
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#253 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 9/9/2013 1:37:28 AM | message detail
TyrekeEvans13 posted...
This strikes me as a really poor showing by Red

What are the stats suppose to be?


do you think Red is Link or something??It's really annoying when people start calling performances poor or great depending on friggin rallies and 3ways. Not to mention for a character who is new to these contests.

Is not just you either im talking generally. Some fools yesterday were saying Samus was weak n9. Stop with these useless statements. Mario lost to Vivi via a rally.
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#254 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 1:39:22 AM | message detail
Oh hey, and right on cue, Squall wins his first update outright.
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#255 | Averia | Posted 9/9/2013 2:03:26 AM | message detail
Red is lucky Vivi > Mario and Squall > Missingno. I think that's the only results that could allow him to advance.
#256 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 2:04:26 AM | message detail
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#257 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/9/2013 2:04:43 AM | message detail
That is true. If Mario was here, Squal could advance. If Missigno was here, Vivi would advance.
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#258 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/9/2013 2:05:46 AM | message detail
Time to cut Dante a break, I think.
-The big RBY Pokemon are at near-elite levels at worst even when only casually reddit-rallied.
-While there's definitely additional things going on with Vivi here, it's probably safe to say FFIX has boosted so his number on Zidane looks better.
-Geolocation indicates that being a day match was probably a terrible, terrible thing for Dante.
-Sore Thumb Factor/Sony LFF/non-Pokemon LFF? Probably at least one of the above.

He could easily be worth 45% on Squirtle in a fair 1-on-1.

An FFIX boost would also indicate we probably got a little lucky on Zidane > Ridley. Could have been close.
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#259 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/9/2013 2:06:31 AM | message detail
How much Tifa would score in Samus if it was a 12 hour night match only?
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#260 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 2:08:08 AM | message detail
Considering Squirtle went on to beat Cloud, Dante's performance looks fine. He's probably still the same as he's always been.
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#261 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 2:09:25 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
How much Tifa would score in Samus if it was a 12 hour night match only?


Tifa was at 45.70% on Samus at noon, so not a huge difference between that and the final result.
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#262 | shane15 | Posted 9/9/2013 2:35:57 AM | message detail
Squall losing to a character from my most hated FF game.Wow this contest just hit rock bottom.
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#263 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/9/2013 2:36:36 AM | message detail
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Speaking of which, the only three Dissidia 012 newbies who appeared in this contest were Tifa, Yuna, and Lightning (IIRC, there might have been someone I missed). The former two both did well, which makes sense seeing how the game was their first major source of exposure in years (and yes I know Tifa's in Crisis Core, but I still maintain that Dissidia 012 has been her biggest post-KH2 appearance so far). LOL Lightning.


Gilgamesh was also new in 012, though he was also XIII-2 DLC.

Also, f*** yeah Vivi > Squall. Strongest FF character confirmed!
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#264 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/9/2013 2:45:10 AM | message detail
Also, both FF characters stalling for awhile now. Crazy.
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#265 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/9/2013 2:58:29 AM | message detail
Vivi would probably take Red pretty comfortably 1v1 if it wasn't for that horrid Squall anchor.
#266 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/9/2013 3:00:44 AM | message detail
So, are there any famous celebrities on Twitter with a weakness to Black Mages?
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#267 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/9/2013 3:03:09 AM | message detail
Has anyone named their kid Vivi?
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#268 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/9/2013 3:06:30 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Has anyone named their kid Vivi?


There is that one couple that allegedly named their kid Sephiroth, but that ain't much of a celebrity.
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#269 | L0rd_Yggdrasil | Posted 9/9/2013 3:07:17 AM | message detail
shane15 posted...
Squall losing to a character from my most hated FF game.Wow this contest just hit rock bottom.


Hating a game like FFIX. Wow you're a cool kid.
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#270 | snoocete | Posted 9/9/2013 3:18:04 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
This isn't an anything performance for Squall because nothing about this match is legit. He's losing to a guy who's only in first because he's the independent option and a guy benefiting from a bandwagon because he beat Mario.

Not sure why people are surprised this could happen. This has been a recurring trend throughout this whole contest. Squall isn't immune to SFF or bandwagons. If Mario isn't, why should Squall be?

And even so, he's already at 38% on Red who's benefiting from LFF and he's at 43% on a clearly bandwagoned Vivi. And those percentages are only going to go up. Squall would not lose to Vivi if they were both at natural strength, but if people want to believe that's suddenly the case, feel free. Like I said, I'll gladly take the free points from all of you who'd make that pick. I almost took 'em last round because of everyone who thought Charizard's bandwagons against Bowser and Mario meant anything!


A cunning plan.

You're telling us to pick Squall > Vivi despite today's match showing otherwise so that the next time there's a contest and they meet, you indeed get the points because you knew better and picked Vivi instead!
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#271 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/9/2013 3:20:22 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
This isn't an anything performance for Squall because nothing about this match is legit. He's losing to a guy who's only in first because he's the independent option and a guy benefiting from a bandwagon because he beat Mario.

Not sure why people are surprised this could happen. This has been a recurring trend throughout this whole contest. Squall isn't immune to SFF or bandwagons. If Mario isn't, why should Squall be?

And even so, he's already at 38% on Red who's benefiting from LFF and he's at 43% on a clearly bandwagoned Vivi. And those percentages are only going to go up. Squall would not lose to Vivi if they were both at natural strength, but if people want to believe that's suddenly the case, feel free. Like I said, I'll gladly take the free points from all of you who'd make that pick. I almost took 'em last round because of everyone who thought Charizard's bandwagons against Bowser and Mario meant anything!


Vivi is more popular than Squall and that has been reflected in every round this contest as well as relatively through other characters in their respective games. Deal with it.
#272 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/9/2013 3:22:36 AM | message detail
Dunno if I'd take Vivi > Squall 1v1 right now, though maybe during the 2015 character contest. I mean, since this is SE we're talking about, we probably won't be seeing KH3 until 2018!
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#273 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 3:22:40 AM | message detail
Okay.
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#274 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/9/2013 3:27:26 AM | message detail
It must irritate you that he's stayed steady on 33% on all match depriving you of the rally crutch. The "bandwagon" business is a lot less believable an excuse.

Sci Fi Final Fantasy is dying, it's failed at every point in the contest.
#275 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/9/2013 3:31:38 AM | message detail
#276 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/9/2013 3:36:18 AM | message detail
dunno what's so unbelievable about bandwagons - several characters have gotten them. Charizard is a good recent example, but Knuckles got a good one in 2005 after that one stupid match he won
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#277 | L0rd_Yggdrasil | Posted 9/9/2013 3:39:34 AM | message detail
Janus5000 posted...
dunno what's so unbelievable about bandwagons - several characters have gotten them. Charizard is a good recent example, but Knuckles got a good one in 2005 after that one stupid match he won


How pathetic do you have to be to jump on a bandwagon to suppot a reject Sonic character?
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#278 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/9/2013 4:06:29 AM | message detail
There was a Knuckles bandwagon in 2005?

He lost in Round 2, as usual.
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#279 | shane15 | Posted 9/9/2013 4:14:49 AM | message detail
L0rd_Yggdrasil posted...
shane15 posted...
Squall losing to a character from my most hated FF game.Wow this contest just hit rock bottom.


Hating a game like FFIX. Wow you're a cool kid.


I'm not even trolling i just genuinely hate FF9.
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#280 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/9/2013 4:19:42 AM | message detail
Knuckles got 46% on Squall and ended up being worth ~30% on Link. Neither he nor Magus have come close to their 2005 projections since and Knuckles wasn't nearly that strong before 2005.
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#281 | L0rd_Yggdrasil | Posted 9/9/2013 4:23:49 AM | message detail
shane15 posted...
L0rd_Yggdrasil posted...
shane15 posted...
Squall losing to a character from my most hated FF game.Wow this contest just hit rock bottom.


Hating a game like FFIX. Wow you're a cool kid.


I'm not even trolling i just genuinely hate FF9.

Good for you but Vivi is a solid character. Rock bottom is garbage like LBlock and Missingno getting as far as they did.
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#282 | shane15 | Posted 9/9/2013 4:26:10 AM | message detail
L0rd_Yggdrasil posted...
shane15 posted...
L0rd_Yggdrasil posted...
shane15 posted...
Squall losing to a character from my most hated FF game.Wow this contest just hit rock bottom.


Hating a game like FFIX. Wow you're a cool kid.


I'm not even trolling i just genuinely hate FF9.

Good for you but Vivi is a solid character. Rock bottom is garbage like LBlock and Missingno getting as far as they did.


From what i remember all Vivi did was cry all game about what he is or something >_>
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#283 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/9/2013 4:52:51 AM | message detail
Im at work now so I can't check
Is it the effect of a giant rally or bandwagon effect?
Or Vivi is just stronger than Squall but that uh...
#284 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/9/2013 5:53:26 AM | message detail
I probably wouldn't take Vivi over Squall next contest, but this definitely isn't the exact same Vivi we've seen in the past years. He's looked a lot stronger, every round.
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#285 | FFDragon | Posted 9/9/2013 5:55:41 AM | message detail
KamikazePotato posted...
He's looked a lot stronger, every round.


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#286 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/9/2013 5:55:50 AM | message detail
Kirby 2008 is the best example of a bandwagon I think.

Goes from struggling with Big Boss to beating Sonic and Sephiroth.

Also, Samus finished the last match better than she finished the first 12 hours, despite losing like 0.3% to that L-block rally partway through the match in the latter half.

Samus confirmed for day character.
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#287 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/9/2013 6:47:59 AM | message detail
Lightning Strikes posted...
Kirby 2008 is the best example of a bandwagon I think.


not 2007 L-Block?
#288 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 9/9/2013 6:51:04 AM | message detail
So...this'll be the most dominating contest for a series since 2004 Games Zelda if Zard advances tomorrow, maybe even including, given everything The Pokes have beaten to this point.
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#289 | XIII_rocks | Posted 9/9/2013 7:04:04 AM | message detail
Vivi is now the strongest Final Fantasy character let's do this
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#290 | SnoicFactor | Posted 9/9/2013 7:04:17 AM | message detail
Damn, vivi would stomp red win no squall here.
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#291 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/9/2013 7:09:05 AM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
So...this'll be the most dominating contest for a series since 2004 Games Zelda if Zard advances tomorrow, maybe even including, given everything The Pokes have beaten to this point.


didn't Zelda get shut out of the final four entirely
(yes I know you'll tell me no Pokemon will make the final 3 here)
#292 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/9/2013 7:24:48 AM | message detail
Charizard is going to pull a Sora
Consider it CALLED (not bold italics)
#293 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/9/2013 7:27:47 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
Kirby 2008 is the best example of a bandwagon I think.


not 2007 L-Block?


That's a good one, but that got backed up by a ton of rallies. Kirby didn't have that I think.
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#294 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 9/9/2013 7:35:21 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
So...this'll be the most dominating contest for a series since 2004 Games Zelda if Zard advances tomorrow, maybe even including, given everything The Pokes have beaten to this point.


didn't Zelda get shut out of the final four entirely
(yes I know you'll tell me no Pokemon will make the final 3 here)


Yes, but it had 4 of the final 10, and was Starcraft goofiness away from 4 of the final 8. Even without getting anything into the final four, that's pretty excellent.
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#295 | Kyle Bowen | Posted 9/9/2013 7:39:44 AM | message detail
SnoicFactor posted...
Damn, vivi would stomp red win no squall here.


What makes you think Squall wouldn't stomp Red without Vivi?
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#296 | TheKoolAidShoto | Posted 9/9/2013 7:48:25 AM | message detail
lol squall
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#297 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/9/2013 8:26:55 AM | message detail
I don't think there is a rally for Vivi. I think people just vote for him for beating Mario and wanted him to beat Red too. I mean I voted Vivi for the same reason too. I thought FF fans would abandon Squall to support Vivi in order to beat Red.
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#298 | WingerSupreme | Posted 9/9/2013 8:41:13 AM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
This isn't an anything performance for Squall because nothing about this match is legit. He's losing to a guy who's only in first because he's the independent option and a guy benefiting from a bandwagon because he beat Mario.

Not sure why people are surprised this could happen. This has been a recurring trend throughout this whole contest. Squall isn't immune to SFF or bandwagons. If Mario isn't, why should Squall be?

And even so, he's already at 38% on Red who's benefiting from LFF and he's at 43% on a clearly bandwagoned Vivi. And those percentages are only going to go up. Squall would not lose to Vivi if they were both at natural strength, but if people want to believe that's suddenly the case, feel free. Like I said, I'll gladly take the free points from all of you who'd make that pick. I almost took 'em last round because of everyone who thought Charizard's bandwagons against Bowser and Mario meant anything!


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#299 | Haste_2 | Posted 9/9/2013 8:41:57 AM | message detail
So... did Squall weaken, or is this all Vivi (bandwagon+growth)? It's so weird that Tifa and Vivi are apparently the two strongest Squaresoft characters at this very moment. :O

Predict the following if they happened today:

Sephiroth vs. Squall

Cloud vs. Tifa

Tifa vs. Vivi

Assume they are in 3-way matches where the 3rd character doesn't favor either of the first two.
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#300 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/9/2013 8:42:27 AM | message detail
LOL leon is so buttsmashed
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