Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1163

#51 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/8/2013 9:12:07 PM | message detail
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From: GloriousSweater | #007
What's in store for next year?

Squall losing to Kefka? MAGUS?!


Kefka vs. Magus 1v1 round 1 match 1.


Square's biggest chokers dueling it out for who can outchoke the other... Spicy!
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#52 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/8/2013 9:12:35 PM | message detail
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Hello Rallymaster Kanz. I take it you will be rallying for Squall all over like Facebook, Twitter or wherever else? You can't let him get embarrassed like this.


The trick is to find some place that won't just dump more votes on Vivi. Maybe the FFXV subreddit?
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#53 | Lopen | Posted 9/8/2013 9:12:50 PM | message detail
Man. This is the worst Pokemon result yet. Like I can at least see why people like the other bastards but Red is just another awful boring silent protag-- oh of course why was he so weak before anyway.
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#54 | Sonic_Druid | Posted 9/8/2013 9:12:55 PM | message detail
So can we consider this Squall's worst performance in the Character Battle tournaments? Or has he done worse than this?

On that note, if Mario was in this instead of Vivi, I think Squall would've had a shot at it. But since that's not the case, Vivi is giving him a bad beatdown. I was expecting half and half for both FF characters, but Squall isn't looking really great here at all.
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#55 | Acerac | Posted 9/8/2013 9:13:19 PM | message detail
swordz9 posted...
B8 hates Squall too much and it's all undeserved.


He ruined Final Fantasy's streak of amazing games.

Thankfully Vivi is here, he helped end the PS1 generation with a bang.
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#56 | Surskit | Posted 9/8/2013 9:13:22 PM | message detail
Look at the bright side, guys. Next round we will see Pokémon getting demolished for 72 hours!
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#57 | jacko_vdz | Posted 9/8/2013 9:13:39 PM | message detail
I'm sad that Red doesn't get any RBY sprite pics. Not that he really needs them though.
#58 | Xuxon | Posted 9/8/2013 9:13:56 PM | message detail
From: GloriousSweater | Posted: 9/9/2013 12:10:38 AM | #044
The only New Square entrants who have done well are the ones who are an homage to Old Square (and the one with the big boobs).

jesus christ FF7 is not New Square

New Square is like... Neku, Lightning, Balthier. maybe Sora and Riku.
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#59 | pjbasis | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:02 PM | message detail
Still hoping for a time period where Squall is cutting both of them
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#60 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:15 PM | message detail
Acerac posted...
He ruined Final Fantasy's streak of amazing games.


More like FFVIII hit a new peak!

Which FFX then exceeded, but second place in the best series ever is still pretty good!
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#61 | GloriousSweater | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:36 PM | message detail
Given the handicap, Vivi is doing tremendously well for himself. If Square fans can take a page out of the Nintendo playbook and hammer Squall into the teens, and if Vivi picks up a late night rally or two, he could give Red a percentage scare. Shame that he's up against the most "refuse to lose" force we have in these contests.
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#62 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:46 PM | message detail
Damn, Squall.

Damn.
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#63 | xp1337 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:47 PM | message detail
So what is up with Vivi anyway?

I'm too lazy to figure out what "typical" votals are like. Is Vivi rallied still or is he just apparently really strong now for no discernible reason?

i genuinely can't imagine how squall is getting buried here without rallies but who knows
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#64 | swordz9 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:49 PM | message detail
Acerac posted...
swordz9 posted...
B8 hates Squall too much and it's all undeserved.


He ruined Final Fantasy's streak of amazing games.

Thankfully Vivi is here, he helped end the PS1 generation with a bang.

I disagree since FF8 is pretty great along with Squall! I also don't think the series even had a good game until 5 though so I'm in a lot of minorities.
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#65 | nkansas13 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:55 PM | message detail
It's already out of reach. Man, that was fast.
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#66 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:14:58 PM | message detail
pjbasis posted...
Still hoping for a time period where Squall is cutting both of them


Squall will probably make some cuts during the TDZ since his night vote is probably the best in the business.

If you want to settle for a moral victory, you'll get one.
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#67 | 2Dover3D | Posted 9/8/2013 9:15:00 PM | message detail
I was disappointed (though expected) to see Red in first, but seeing Vivi way over Squall makes it worth it. Maybe Gamefaqs is finally realizing how terrible of a character he is
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#68 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/8/2013 9:15:02 PM | message detail
Square is (finally) learning to strategically abandon a little bit. Probably too little, too late, but with a big enough push from Vivi he could make this interesting.
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#69 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/8/2013 9:15:26 PM | message detail
I don't think Vivi is actually stronger than Squall; I think it's another Kefka/Zack situation where he's more beloved by the actual fanbase
Of course, I thought the same thing about Blue v Pikachu so I might be talking out of my a**
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#70 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:16:03 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
i genuinely can't imagine how squall is getting buried here without rallies but who knows


I guess people remember previous results more than I gave them credit for.

Not too surprising Vivi would get a bandwagon for beating FRIGGIN' MARIO
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#71 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/8/2013 9:16:50 PM | message detail
Squall looked slightly weaker at best the first two rounds. I guess Vivi is just legit this year.
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#72 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:16:57 PM | message detail
You all feel free to take Vivi > Squall the next time we have a Character Battle (if we ever have another one). I'll take the free points!
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#73 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/8/2013 9:17:05 PM | message detail
Vivi is getting bandwagoned, that's all. I really, really guarantee you don't see Vivi blowing out Squall in R1 of this contest.
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#74 | swirIdude | Posted 9/8/2013 9:18:06 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: GloriousSweater | Posted: 9/9/2013 12:10:38 AM | #044
The only New Square entrants who have done well are the ones who are an homage to Old Square (and the one with the big boobs).

jesus christ FF7 is not New Square

New Square is like... Neku, Lightning, Balthier. maybe Sora and Riku.


Jesus Christ you know what we mean by New Square, calm the hell down.
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#75 | JJH777 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:18:10 PM | message detail
If only that percent rise Squall just got went to Vivi.. He could be making this interesting
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#76 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/8/2013 9:18:25 PM | message detail
Red is slowing down so much that I would consider a comeback if it wasn't Pokemon.
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#77 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 9:18:26 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: GloriousSweater | Posted: 9/9/2013 12:10:38 AM | #044
The only New Square entrants who have done well are the ones who are an homage to Old Square (and the one with the big boobs).

jesus christ FF7 is not New Square

New Square is like... Neku, Lightning, Balthier. maybe Sora and Riku.

Like in art, once labeled "New Square", you are simply "New Square".

I have labeled anything post FFX as "Postmodern Square".

Changing labels for existing eras just leads to confusion.
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#78 | swirIdude | Posted 9/8/2013 9:18:30 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
You all feel free to take Vivi > Squall the next time we have a Character Battle (if we ever have another one). I'll take the free points!


If the votals are this poor again, a little rally push is all Vivi will need!
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#79 | snoocete | Posted 9/8/2013 9:19:06 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Not too surprising Vivi would get a bandwagon for beating FRIGGIN' MARIO


So you mean Vivi's getting reverse antivotes for beating Mario?

That's like... normal votes
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#80 | xp1337 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:19:37 PM | message detail
Oh, I'm still taking Squall in a 1v1 or even the next contest if it isn't.

It's just, is Vivi honestly really good now? Or maybe I just didn't give him enough credit before, because man.
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#81 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:19:39 PM | message detail
snoocete posted...
So you mean Vivi's getting reverse antivotes for beating Mario?

That's like... normal votes


what is this post
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#82 | raytan7585 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:19:47 PM | message detail
Don't give up on Squall just yet, guys.
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#83 | -Tofa7- | Posted 9/8/2013 9:19:50 PM | message detail
So 5/9 finalists are going to be Pokemon related. Yikes.

I guess this is what happens when Final Fantasy drops off a cliff in strength and Pokemon manages to dodge the stronger Nintendo entrants.

Willing to bet a lot of people overrate Pokemon next contest because of this.
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#84 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 9:20:48 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
So what is up with Vivi anyway?

I'm too lazy to figure out what "typical" votals are like. Is Vivi rallied still or is he just apparently really strong now for no discernible reason?

i genuinely can't imagine how squall is getting buried here without rallies but who knows

The vote totals aren't so high to indicate big rallies here, I think.

It seems that Vivi is just a beast now.

I suppose this makes Mario look somewhat better in retrospect...although he was still awful.
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#85 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/8/2013 9:21:14 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Oh, I'm still taking Squall in a 1v1 or even the next contest if it isn't.

It's just, is Vivi honestly really good now? Or maybe I just didn't give him enough credit before, because man.


Vivi's always been pretty good. Zidane looked to have boosted this year, he probably did too. Couple that with a bandwagon and strategic voting and yeah.
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#86 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:21:31 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
Oh, I'm still taking Squall in a 1v1 or even the next contest if it isn't.

It's just, is Vivi honestly really good now? Or maybe I just didn't give him enough credit before, because man.


why are people saying things like this and they weren't saying this when Squirtle beat Cloud
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#87 | Xuxon | Posted 9/8/2013 9:21:35 PM | message detail
From: raytan7585 | Posted: 9/9/2013 12:19:47 AM | #082
Don't give up on Squall just yet, guys.

he's done in this match. no chance of looking respectable even. but it doesn't mean his popularity has vanished permanently.
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#88 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:22:23 PM | message detail
But yeah, Vivi's always been pretty good. He's beaten DK solidly twice. He beat Altair in a day match without breaking a sweat. He would've gotten 45%+ on Kirby if he'd faced him in a night match in 2010.
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#89 | Lopen | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:54 PM | message detail | (edited)
Vivi's rally was overrated last round and I doubt Ganondorf LFFed Mario that much. I feel like in a rallyless 1v1 Vivi would easily clear 40% against Mario this year
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#90 | GloriousSweater | Posted 9/8/2013 9:22:56 PM | message detail
-Tofa7- posted...
I guess this is what happens when Final Fantasy drops off a cliff in strength and Pokemon manages to dodge the stronger Nintendo entrants.


The only guaranteed "Pokemon killer" this contest was Link. Mewtwo nearly doubled Bowser for Pete's sake. I guess you can probably kill them off early by feeding the strongest ones to Link/Mario/Samus in R1 before they've had a chance to "evolve" throughout the course of a contest. You can also pit them against each other, but that plan essentially leaves you with a 50/50 choice in R1 as to which Pokemon will advance and dominate. Doubt people will be too happy when they pick wrong and it costs them 2-4 rounds worth of points.
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#91 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 9:23:38 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Vivi is getting bandwagoned, that's all. I really, really guarantee you don't see Vivi blowing out Squall in R1 of this contest.

Hmm yes this is true.

So perhaps I retract my statement about Mario looking better than :) Mario only looks very slightly better, as Vivi likely absorbed some of his strength Highlander style.
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#92 | xp1337 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:23:50 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
xp1337 posted...
Oh, I'm still taking Squall in a 1v1 or even the next contest if it isn't.

It's just, is Vivi honestly really good now? Or maybe I just didn't give him enough credit before, because man.


why are people saying things like this and they weren't saying this when Squirtle beat Cloud

saying stuff like what?

I've mostly been checked out of following the stats closely since 2006. In whatever twisted memory I have Vivi really wasn't anything special! It's totally possible I'm wrong, either in that Vivi actually is good now, or he was then and lol my memory.
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#93 | KanzarisKelshen | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:22 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
From: raytan7585 | Posted: 9/9/2013 12:19:47 AM | #082
Don't give up on Squall just yet, guys.

he's done in this match. no chance of looking respectable even. but it doesn't mean his popularity has vanished permanently.


If he clears say, 27% I'll consider this loss respectable. With the casual votes gone this is just a case of 'board 8 voting', AKA when small polls don't reflect how loved a character really is. Squall is still the stronger entrant, he's just having to struggle with terrible votals making his anti votes matter more.
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#94 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:39 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
snoocete posted...
So you mean Vivi's getting reverse antivotes for beating Mario?

That's like... normal votes


what is this post

My exact reaction to that post as well...
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#95 | Acerac | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:39 PM | message detail
LeonhartFour posted...
Acerac posted...
He ruined Final Fantasy's streak of amazing games.


More like FFVIII hit a new peak!

Which FFX then exceeded, but second place in the best series ever is still pretty good!


FFX made me quit the series forever. It's good to know that some people like Square Enix's production though!
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#96 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:50 PM | message detail
Voters starting to realize Vivi has no chance
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#97 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/8/2013 9:24:51 PM | message detail
I did think Vivi's Round 1 match was a very good result.

Then again, I had a higher opinion of Jensen than just about anyone here.
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#98 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:25:00 PM | message detail
Xuxon posted...
he's done in this match. no chance of looking respectable even. but it doesn't mean his popularity has vanished permanently.


Eh, Squall will probably look fine by the time this is said and done. Red will hemorrhage percentage overnight, and Squall will start stalling Vivi's gains eventually.

I think he's still got an outside shot at second once we get out of this early vote, and if he takes second, he won't look back.
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#99 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/8/2013 9:25:45 PM | message detail
By the way, Red looks like crap here compared to Pokemon's other performances.
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#100 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/8/2013 9:26:32 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
saying stuff like what?


Trying to act like this result is a legitimate show of strength for Vivi! Nobody was saying that about Squirtle because, well, we knew better!

Not trying to knock Vivi or anything. Like I said, he's a very solid midcarder. Maybe even an upper midcarder at this point.

But this result is inflated.
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