Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1162

#201 | snoocete | Posted 9/8/2013 6:52:57 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Samus>Zelda=Tifa


Zelda vs Tifa vs Charizard, who wins?
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#202 | Averia | Posted 9/8/2013 6:53:33 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
This match annoys me
It makes sense. Why does it makes sense? It's not supposed to make sense

We are after 7 matches in a row that didn't make sense (not including bonus match...and Kirby had the lead for some time)

This match...makes perfect sense. Why? Why


Everyone was expecting it to not make sense, therefore making sense makes it not making sense ?
#203 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 6:53:52 AM | message detail
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#204 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 6:56:23 AM | message detail
So Tifa had gained at some point over 9% from the freeze?
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#205 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 6:58:36 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Samus>Zelda=Tifa

Zelda is not equal to Tifa.
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#206 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 6:59:54 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
So Tifa had gained at some point over 9% from the freeze?

Yes she's gone up a ton, both Samus and the block had great board votes while Tifa was ignored.

With the day vote she'll drop, then recover a bit at night. She'll probably finish at 44.5%-45% on Samus.
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#207 | _SecretSquirrel | Posted 9/8/2013 7:15:31 AM | message detail
Averia posted...
Nanis23 posted...
This match annoys me
It makes sense. Why does it makes sense? It's not supposed to make sense

We are after 7 matches in a row that didn't make sense (not including bonus match...and Kirby had the lead for some time)

This match...makes perfect sense. Why? Why


Everyone was expecting it to not make sense, therefore making sense makes it not making sense ?


We are really in Bizarro World, where the expected is now an upset and upsets are expected.
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#208 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/8/2013 7:25:49 AM | message detail | (edited)
Oh wow Samus went up a bit since I last saw this.

So I'm guessing she caught the morning vote to recover some percentage as always? If so, then she probably starts bleeding percentage again until the ASV, gets back to 56% on Tifa, then allows Tifa to make up some lost ground with the SNV.

Meanwhile it seems that L-Block has been dropping in percentage all match.
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#209 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 7:27:09 AM | message detail
Just look at the map. Most votes come from USA and there Samus is winning by around 13%. That is amazing. Americans like girls in robot suits it seems.
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#210 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/8/2013 7:38:53 AM | message detail
Time to go off and play one of Samus's games and hope that something stupid doesn't happen to her in the meantime.
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#211 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/8/2013 7:41:02 AM | message detail
More like only NA likes Samus, she's almost like a Master Chief, without the crazy ASV.
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#212 | snoocete | Posted 9/8/2013 7:42:40 AM | message detail
In League of Legends there's this Kayle champion that's an expy of Samus

Same color scheme and gender and wears a helmet all the time (unless you pay up for a skin)
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#213 | snoocete | Posted 9/8/2013 7:49:10 AM | message detail
I just thought it was relevant in case Samus and Draven meet in the finals... in one of her match pics she can pretend to be a LoL character >_>
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#214 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 8:00:52 AM | message detail
Only if USA doesn't vote we can have good results.
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#215 | creativename | Posted 9/8/2013 8:08:52 AM | message detail
snoocete posted...
In League of Legends there's this Kayle champion that's an expy of Samus

Same color scheme and gender and wears a helmet all the time (unless you pay up for a skin)

What's an "expy"?
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#216 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/8/2013 8:10:57 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Only if USA doesn't vote we can have good results.


on the other hand, Link would've gotten murdered by Draven if USA didn't vote
#217 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 9/8/2013 8:13:41 AM | message detail
In a match where I expected a rally for l block. He doesn't get one? This contest confuses me. Lol
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#218 | snoocete | Posted 9/8/2013 8:18:56 AM | message detail
creativename posted...
snoocete posted...
In League of Legends there's this Kayle champion that's an expy of Samus

Same color scheme and gender and wears a helmet all the time (unless you pay up for a skin)

What's an "expy"?


http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Expy
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#219 | WhiteLens | Posted 9/8/2013 8:33:26 AM | message detail
thunderstruck9 posted...
In a match where I expected a rally for l block. He doesn't get one? This contest confuses me. Lol


If it's not competing for 1st place they don't care.
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#220 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 8:42:34 AM | message detail | (edited)
You can't rally against 2 hot chicks.
Even Russia doesn't support L-Block.
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#221 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/8/2013 8:51:20 AM | message detail | (edited)
lightning-02 posted...
Not just the LoL subreddit but everywhere, Threads are getting deleted and the biggest one did get deleted during the Draven match before the DDOS. I've noticed myself I can't make threads with a direct poll link anymore when it wasn't a problem last week, it seems to be getting caught by a filter and the link removed.

It's still ok to make threads about the poll, just not giving a direct link to the poll page in the OP. Forcing people to fish out the site and poll themselves will have a big drop in efficiency. Draven can still win but he's definitely mortal now.


Well, I'm sure you could still rally on the official LoL forums, LoL related Facebook pages, and Twitch.tv instead. It might not be as effective as the LoL subreddit, but it should bring in some votes for Draven.
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#222 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/8/2013 8:50:40 AM | message detail
How about direct linking to the front page?
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#223 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/8/2013 8:54:10 AM | message detail
On Auron's strength or lack thereof:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/poll/5201

Ocelot did better than I figured but we probably underrated him because of 2008, he could have boosted since then like several other MGS characters have, and there's Auron/Roxas LFF.

Auron's performance on Roxas is the real concern there. Based on the 2010 stats, Auron only got about what he was supposed to on Roxas. After how badly Sora and Riku have bombed, doing as the stats expected on a KH character is not good at all.
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#224 | pjbasis | Posted 9/8/2013 9:17:38 AM | message detail
Pikachu - 12.66¢
Sora - 12.56¢
Crono - 10.88¢
Scorpion - 9.38¢
Gilgamesh - 8.01¢

Blue - 6.21¢
Booker - 5.69¢
Fox - 5.69¢
Lloyd - 5.65¢
Big Daddy - 5.61¢

Drake - 4.49¢
Aya - 4.87¢
Yoshimitsu - 4.87¢
Pac-Man - 4.17¢
Lu Bu - 3.73¢
Magus - 3.36¢
Missile - 3.33¢
Kerrigan - 3.07¢

Groose - 2.82¢
Mr. G&W - 2.48¢
Otacon - 2.39¢
Lee - 2.32¢
Steve - 2.08¢
Kaim - 1.78¢
Meat Boy - 1.44¢
Jade - 1.28¢
Wolf - 1.00¢
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#225 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:31:14 AM | message detail | (edited)
Gilgamesh over Blue. I like that.
Also I want your wisdom. If it was a night match how much would Tifa would worth on Samus?
Also let us say that it finishes 55-45 in a 24 hour match. In night for many hours they were tied. Does that means that it erases a full 5% and makes it 50-50 basically? I still find that amazing.
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#226 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/8/2013 9:38:56 AM | message detail
_SecretSquirrel posted...
Averia posted...
Nanis23 posted...
This match annoys me
It makes sense. Why does it makes sense? It's not supposed to make sense

We are after 7 matches in a row that didn't make sense (not including bonus match...and Kirby had the lead for some time)

This match...makes perfect sense. Why? Why


Everyone was expecting it to not make sense, therefore making sense makes it not making sense ?


We are really in Bizarro World, where the expected is now an upset and upsets are expected.


That's just how this particular contest is playing out... lots of idiotic coin flip matches. Will a rally catch hold? Okay should've picked Draven, L-Block, Squirtle, Vivi... Oh, rally flops? Shoulda picked Link, MMX, Auron, Tifa, Cloud, Mario...
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#227 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/8/2013 9:46:01 AM | message detail
Gilgamesh what a beast
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#228 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 9:47:00 AM | message detail
UltimaterializerX posted...

Too good. This is the freaking official patch notes.

The more I play League, the more I like this whole Draven thing. You guys really should give it a try.



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Your inconsistency is something else
I don't think I have ever seen someone change his opinion so many times during a contest
#229 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:15:18 AM | message detail
L-Block dropping like a rock
#230 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:19:51 AM | message detail
L-Block might challenge Lugia for having the most embarrassing collapse
#231 | SuperAngelo128 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:21:19 AM | message detail
creativename posted...
UltimaterializerX posted...
Champions

Draven

Summary: Draven’s passive will now consume all stacks on kill to grant bonus gold, although the gold granted per stack has been reduced by 1. Additionally, Draven’s passive will grant at least 50 bonus gold per kill.

Context: Considering Draven is obviously the greatest champion ever in League of Legends, his new League of Draven passive feels a little flat right now. We’re looking at ways of making his Adoration mechanic more rewarding - both functionally and visually – during late game and multikills.

League of Draven

Now grants a base 50 Gold bonus upon killing an enemy champion (from 0)
Now consumes all Adoration stacks on kill to reward Draven with Gold (previously only consuming half)
Gold per Adoration stack consumed reduced to 2 (from 3)
Visuals and sounds for League of Draven play on every Draven kill, instead of only playing on kills which consumed a large number of stacks


Too good. This is the freaking official patch notes.

The more I play League, the more I like this whole Draven thing. You guys really should give it a try.

I have absolutely no idea what any of that means.

Can someone translate?
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Basically Draven's mechanic in the game got changed for the better, right around the time he won the Link match.

But yeah if people haven't played an MOBA League is a good place to start. I started playing around when Draven beat Chie and Jak and I've been enjoying it. Just keep in mind the learning curve is a little steep if you're new to MOBAs

but hey playing the game is totally free which is a big plus
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#232 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:40:30 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Sora must suck very very much to lose to either Pikachu or Blue
Using 2010 x-stats,it only projects Pikachu a 54% win over Sora
Give Pikachu a massive boost as he should take,and Sora getting weaker...let's be crazy and say Pikachu wins 60-40
Give it a pool of 50k votes,and Pikachu wins with 30k-20k
Which sounds nice,but add Blue into this match and those 30k will split...to the point Pikachu needs to 67-33% Blue..I don't think it's possible

Of course,you might project Pikachu to win over Sora by more than 60% in one by one..you might ever argue that people who would vote for Sora over Pikachu will prefer to vote Blue instead,thus weaking Sora..but who knows


Oh my god I can't believe how close I was
Pikachu did 67-33 blue
The match had 47,406 votes,not that far from 50,000
Given this new vote total,my "projection" had both Blue and Pikachu getting 28443 votes (real-28462...19 difference)
Divide it by 67%..and Pikachu gets 19056 (real=19094...38 difference)

Of course,I couldn't believe Pikachu would 67-33% Blue,but Pikachu was able to do just that!
#233 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:40:50 AM | message detail
Probably much too late but might finally be making some headway.
#234 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:44:50 AM | message detail
It always amazes me when people are posting "**** you I voted for X/Y instead!!"

It's like...they are starving...they feed on this...their joy is trying to make people mad
#235 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/8/2013 10:48:03 AM | message detail
From: Nanis23 | #234
It always amazes me when people are posting "**** you I voted for X/Y instead!!"

It's like...they are starving...they feed on this...their joy is trying to make people mad


Pokemon X/Y confirmed for winning the next Game of the Generation contest
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#236 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:53:49 AM | message detail | (edited)
57 cut?
THIS IS A RALLY
Not Squirtle FEARSOME "20 per update" crap

Too bad it's too late now..you can't comeback from 4000 votes unless you are Link/Draven (it means the character base power is weak as hell)

edit-try 6000...I only calculated how much votes till Tifa..THEN there is Samus
#237 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/8/2013 10:54:23 AM | message detail
I can't believe there are people who taking this match at face value and are acting like this isn't a bad performance for Samus. Samus was being touted to be an easy #2 or #3 on the site, and a cut above the rest of the underperforming NN. Instead, unless you're gonna crackpot theory Tifa = Cloud, it still looks like FF7's lead would give Samus the fight of her life. Being around Cloud level these days is definitely disappointing for Samus.

I'm just not taking this match at face value!
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#238 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/8/2013 10:55:41 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Using 2010 x-stats,it only projects Pikachu a 54% win over Sora

Unadjusted 2010 x-stats have Pikachu at 39.89 and Sora at 26.98.

1 - [26.98/39.89] = 32.36% difference, or Pikachu winning with 66.18%.

Sora was stuck behind Mario so his stat needs adjusting, but IMO not to the 35% on BL Ngamer's site gives him. Pikachu / Sora / Blue, being a 3-way isn't entirely credible, but it suggests Pikachu is worth upper 50's, near 60% on Sora. 54% is just lowballing Pikachu no matter how you look at things.
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#239 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:56:01 AM | message detail
L-Block cut 130 from Tifa lead in the last 4 updates

Even though it's looking good it-
1.Will fade out soon
2.Even now when it's probably L-Block "peak"..it doesn't cut Samus...
#240 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:57:15 AM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Using 2010 x-stats,it only projects Pikachu a 54% win over Sora

Unadjusted 2010 x-stats have Pikachu at 39.89 and Sora at 26.98.

1 - [26.98/39.89] = 32.36% difference, or Pikachu winning with 66.18%.

Sora was stuck behind Mario so his stat needs adjusting, but IMO not to the 35% on BL Ngamer's site gives him. Pikachu / Sora / Blue, being a 3-way isn't entirely credible, but it suggests Pikachu is worth upper 50's, near 60% on Sora. 54% is just lowballing Pikachu no matter how you look at things.


Let's use the average of adjusted and unadjusted Pikachu to get the 60-40 we need and call it a day!
#241 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:57:28 AM | message detail
If it can cut 30 votes per update that means that in an hour it cuts around 350. That is impressive. Also can someone answers my question?
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#242 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/8/2013 10:58:40 AM | message detail
Looks like Unemployed nerds of America woke to support inanimate object.
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#243 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/8/2013 10:59:06 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
L-Block cut 130 from Tifa lead in the last 4 updates

Even though it's looking good it-
1.Will fade out soon
2.Even now when it's probably L-Block "peak"..it doesn't cut Samus...


It took a good 8 hours of rallying for L-Block to peak the last time, it did its best work in the final hour. Will be interesting to see if it scales or fizzles out this time.
#244 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/8/2013 11:00:10 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't believe there are people who taking this match at face value and are acting like this isn't a bad performance for Samus.

It's a ????? performance. How do L-Block's votes get split if this is Samus v. Tifa? How do Tifa's votes get split if this is Samus v. L-Block? Nobody knows. At least with Fox / Blue / Wolf, it's reasonable to give the lion's share of Wolf's votes to Fox and conclude that match is a close 1v1. This is Nintendo v. Joke v. Square. Doesn't tell us jack about specific 1v1 results.
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#245 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/8/2013 11:00:34 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
L-Block cut 130 from Tifa lead in the last 4 updates

Even though it's looking good it-
1.Will fade out soon
2.Even now when it's probably L-Block "peak"..it doesn't cut Samus...


It took a good 8 hours of rallying for L-Block to peak the last time, it did its best work in the final hour. Will be interesting to see if it scales or fizzles out this time.


I wonder
Just how much the imgur page of 4chan matters here?
And how does it get "stronger"?
Because it looks like it took off because of imgur,not because the thread on /v/
#246 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/8/2013 11:01:09 AM | message detail
Some social degenerate is rallying for L bloc Red Sox, Safer and lightning must be wetting their pants at the thought.
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#247 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/8/2013 11:02:15 AM | message detail
L-Block is cutting Samus as well
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#248 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/8/2013 11:02:44 AM | message detail
IngmarBirdman posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
I can't believe there are people who taking this match at face value and are acting like this isn't a bad performance for Samus.

It's a ????? performance. How do L-Block's votes get split if this is Samus v. Tifa? How do Tifa's votes get split if this is Samus v. L-Block? Nobody knows. At least with Fox / Blue / Wolf, it's reasonable to give the lion's share of Wolf's votes to Fox and conclude that match is a close 1v1. This is Nintendo v. Joke v. Square. Doesn't tell us jack about specific 1v1 results.


AKA, 'I'm not taking this match at face value'. You are learning, young padawan!

But "yeah 54-55% on Tifa f*** yeah Samus what a beast"; no, that's putting her around Cloud level, that's crazy. You want to hope Samus is worth significantly more than what she's showing today.
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#249 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/8/2013 11:03:20 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
lightning-02 posted...
Nanis23 posted...
L-Block cut 130 from Tifa lead in the last 4 updates

Even though it's looking good it-
1.Will fade out soon
2.Even now when it's probably L-Block "peak"..it doesn't cut Samus...


It took a good 8 hours of rallying for L-Block to peak the last time, it did its best work in the final hour. Will be interesting to see if it scales or fizzles out this time.


I wonder
Just how much the imgur page of 4chan matters here?
And how does it get "stronger"?
Because it looks like it took off because of imgur,not because the thread on /v/


That thread has been up all day, the /v/ one just went up.
#250 | The_Djoker | Posted 9/8/2013 11:03:25 AM | message detail
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