Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1158

#51 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 9/6/2013 11:18:12 AM | message detail
At this point I think I'd only pick Draven, Link, and maybe Snake/Mario to beat a rallied pokemon. They are just getting stupid strong.
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#52 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/6/2013 11:19:24 AM | message detail
Then00bAvenger posted...
I would be satisfied with an option that just shows how the registered users voted in a poll, ala something similar to geolocation.

Unfortunately Allen has said that he does not track that data.

But he should!


Where did he say that at?
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#53 | GloryChaos | Posted 9/6/2013 11:19:56 AM | message detail
The way this match is going is actually proving KamikazePotato right. Cloud gets closer. Squirtle just shoves him away.

If it wasn't for the blatant sabotage where Wolf was shoved into his match, would Fox still be in the contest?
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#54 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/6/2013 11:20:17 AM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Link is the only thing off limit for Pokemon.

We've seen Pokemon disappoint multiple times against Zelda. Mewtwo struggling with Midna, Mewtwo easily losing to Ganondorf, Charizard needing massive rallies to beat Zelda.


And now Mewtwo has boosted to beat the likes of Vincent and Sonic! And Charizard was simply overrated, as every opponent he faced besides L-Block has bombed horribly.

Anyway, even if Squirtle wins this, I'm still rooting for a Pikachu win, if only because it gets me one step closer to winning the Guru, which would be wonderful and perhaps even more hilarious than Turtle winning.
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#55 | Kinglicious | Posted 9/6/2013 11:20:43 AM | message detail
Mega Man will prove that he is the hero you all seek.
Magikarp was just a test. Charizard will be the challenge. Then off to the finals..!
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#56 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 9/6/2013 11:20:49 AM | message detail
BleedingRed posted...
FranzyvonKarma posted...
One of Pikachu/Blue winning Pikachu/Blue/Sora would be more absurd than anything else Pokemon has done this contest.


I would say Squirtle beating Cloud would be the most absurd thing that pokemon has ever done in this contest.


Squirtle beating Cloud here means Pokemon is holding firm to a bit more than the 40% it stubbornly grabs onto like it has all contest. This performance is par for the course for Pokemon.

Pikachu and Blue aren't going to fold to one another. One has being Pikachu, and the other has being GARY OAK. If either one of them beats Sora, then that means that whichever one pulls it off absolutely slaughters Sora 1v1 even before rallies, which is much harder for me to imagine than 'a super-rally can drag Squirtle to 45% on Cloud'.
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#57 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:20:50 AM | message detail
I think the Pikachu/Blue split is really dangerous for Pokemon. Pikachu is more popular but also more hated, so Blue isn't going to let himself get SFFed. If the ralliers are smart and all back Blue, then he probably wins, but I'm sure some of them will rally for Pikachu thinking he has a better shot.
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#58 | Acerac | Posted 9/6/2013 11:21:09 AM | message detail
Squirtle is still winning?

This contest has lost all credibility!
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#59 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:21:43 AM | message detail
Next contest really needs to be registered users only

The last time that happened Pokemon GSC performed better against Xenogears
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#60 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/6/2013 11:21:44 AM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
One of Pikachu/Blue winning Pikachu/Blue/Sora would be more absurd than anything else Pokemon has done this contest.
Nah. Cloud/Sora was probably around a doubling indirectly in 2010 and both have dropped huge amounts. Pikachu can take that one and it won't even be impressive.
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#61 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/6/2013 11:22:19 AM | message detail
White_Tiger posted...
This contest has gotten so bad I don't care anymore, in fact I doubt I will even come back for the rest of the matches. So many rallies and vote stuffing.


The only reason I'm even sticking around is to try and get in the top 10 in the Expert bracket and win some money. This hasn't been a GameFAQs contest, it's been a reddit/4chan contest.
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#62 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/6/2013 11:22:40 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Where did he say that at?


In a feedback ticket he responded to
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#63 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 9/6/2013 11:22:50 AM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
The way this match is going is actually proving KamikazePotato right. Cloud gets closer. Squirtle just shoves him away.

If it wasn't for the blatant sabotage where Wolf was shoved into his match, would Fox still be in the contest?


At this point I'm leaning no. Whichever thing that was put in Wolf's place would hurt Fox just as badly, because it'd pull way more votes overall. Sure they'd come at Fox's expense slightly less, but Blue's voters are a lot more loyal.
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#64 | UberPyro64 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:23:17 AM | message detail
White_Tiger posted...
This contest has gotten so bad I don't care anymore, in fact I doubt I will even come back for the rest of the matches. So many rallies and vote stuffing.


Rallying is what makes it interesting though. You get a character no one expects to beat characters everyone thought was making it to say the finals.
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#65 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:23:29 AM | message detail
I can understand how Link fans felt when Link lost to a joke rallied character. The same happens here for Cloud... At least Sephiroth advanced! And he will be lucky to break 15%! Yeah...
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#66 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/6/2013 11:25:05 AM | message detail
I'd be fine with registered users only voting. Vivi would become the strongest FF character, we could see most of the Noble Nine bomb to even weaker characters, and we'd be guaranteed an all-Pokemon final!
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#67 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/6/2013 11:26:08 AM | message detail
At this point it's pretty much useless to compare 1v1's. Is Squirtle beating Cloud? Only if you think Leon's votes get divvied up 50-50. Pokémon have strengthened this contest but good luck determining exactly how much. 3-ways is tailor-made for them because they always seem to have less overlap, unless the match is Pokémon / Nintendo / Other, like MissingNo's first match.
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#68 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/6/2013 11:26:38 AM | message detail
Let's take bets.

At what point does Cloud take the lead down to before Squirtle shoots up again
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#69 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 11:26:43 AM | message detail
FFVII has always depended on the casual visitors who come here to look at a FAQ. Make it registered users only, and you'll get the Power Hour played out over the entire match.

Link still wins the contest though.
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#70 | GloryChaos | Posted 9/6/2013 11:29:23 AM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
GloryChaos posted...
The way this match is going is actually proving KamikazePotato right. Cloud gets closer. Squirtle just shoves him away.

If it wasn't for the blatant sabotage where Wolf was shoved into his match, would Fox still be in the contest?


At this point I'm leaning no. Whichever thing that was put in Wolf's place would hurt Fox just as badly, because it'd pull way more votes overall. Sure they'd come at Fox's expense slightly less, but Blue's voters are a lot more loyal.


Dang. I didn't think about it that way. So somebody like Gordon Freeman would end up pulling away more votes from Fox than Wolf did?
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#71 | Kinglicious | Posted 9/6/2013 11:29:29 AM | message detail
Problem with that theory:
Those casuals are looking up Pokemon FAQs.
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#72 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 9/6/2013 11:31:47 AM | message detail
Kinglicious posted...
Problem with that theory:
Those casuals are looking up Pokemon FAQs.


Yeah I'm pretty sure Pokemon wins the casual vote.
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#73 | OrangeCrush980 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:34:20 AM | message detail
Okay, then how about people who aren't logged in and got to GameFAQs via a link on Reddit or 4chan can't vote? Those 2 websites have been taking rallying way too far.
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#74 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/6/2013 11:36:03 AM | message detail
Hey Orange and other people complaining about rallying:

Want to dilute rallied votes?

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/7-site-suggestions/67111376

Sign it.
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#75 | UberPyro64 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:36:14 AM | message detail
OrangeCrush980 posted...
Okay, then how about people who aren't logged in and got to GameFAQs via a link on Reddit or 4chan can't vote? Those 2 websites have been taking rallying way too far.


Is that butthurt I hear?
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#76 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/6/2013 11:38:41 AM | message detail
ban all pokemon easy solution
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#77 | GloryChaos | Posted 9/6/2013 11:38:48 AM | message detail
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Squall is going to lose to Vivi, isn't he?
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#78 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 9/6/2013 11:41:29 AM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
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Squall is going to lose to Vivi, isn't he?


There's a pokemon character in that battle soo....
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#79 | UberPyro64 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:42:08 AM | message detail
GloryChaos posted...
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Squall is going to lose to Vivi, isn't he?


Yes but both will lose to Red.

Also Blue will beat Sora and Pikachu and Charizard will beat Mega Man and Zero.
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#80 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:44:38 AM | message detail
Yeah I'm pretty sure Pokemon wins the casual vote.

That's what we thought in 2004 then Xenogear proceeded to do even better.
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#81 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/6/2013 11:44:43 AM | message detail
Squirtle showing all the doubters here. There's no reason now to underestimate a Pokemon, except against LoZ characters.
#82 | Greyfeld | Posted 9/6/2013 11:50:19 AM | message detail
Scarlettail posted...
Squirtle showing all the doubters here. There's no reason now to underestimate a Pokemon, except against LoZ characters.


Squirtle winning because of constant rallying isn't "showing all the doubters." It's 4chan overrunning the match.
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#83 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/6/2013 11:51:38 AM | message detail
I wonder in Vivi can win that match because IIRC he was being rallied hard when he beat Mario, too.
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#84 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/6/2013 11:52:17 AM | message detail
This round has been brutal for my Expert picks so far. At least the next match should be more predictable...?

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#85 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 11:53:22 AM | message detail
I don't think the rally is still alive anymore..this is all Squirtle doing
#86 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/6/2013 11:53:51 AM | message detail
Greyfeld posted...
Scarlettail posted...
Squirtle showing all the doubters here. There's no reason now to underestimate a Pokemon, except against LoZ characters.


Squirtle winning because of constant rallying isn't "showing all the doubters." It's 4chan overrunning the match.


There was no doubt he was going to be rallied going into this, but most still thought he wouldn't do nearly this well.
#87 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/6/2013 11:56:25 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I don't think the rally is still alive anymore..this is all Squirtle doing


Nope, not how 4chan works these days. As long as the rally is in the Catalog (and it still is), it will be inflating him to a degree.
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#88 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/6/2013 11:58:22 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I don't think the rally is still alive anymore..this is all Squirtle doing


We already experimented with what happens when the rally topics were deleted.
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#89 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 12:00:22 PM | message detail
But it was in the 9th place
I just had to bring it up now after it was inactive for 20 minutes
#90 | G0EMONIMPACT | Posted 9/6/2013 12:01:22 PM | message detail
What a trooper, beating the Karma Hunter 5% odds like this!
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#91 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/6/2013 12:02:20 PM | message detail
This would be my fave upset so far, for sure.

Both of the top two juggernauts losing to two rallied first-timers from massively popular franchises. All we need is a DDoS for this match.
#92 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/6/2013 12:02:39 PM | message detail
I'm kind of hoping that people come to their senses tonight and the nostalgia for FFVII with the older crowd kicks in.
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#93 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/6/2013 12:02:53 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
But it was in the 9th place
I just had to bring it up now after it was inactive for 20 minutes


Inactive may mean it will eventually be purged - which will matter. But until then, most 4chan regulars use the Catalog to browse now. If you browse with the Catalog, you'll see that thread, and from there can simply click through and vote.

Activity is not a measure of a rally's effectiveness. Most of the activity in a rally thread is by the exact same person.
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#94 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/6/2013 12:05:18 PM | message detail
registered users only?
go for it!
#95 | eaglesarebeasts | Posted 9/6/2013 12:16:26 PM | message detail | (edited)
I don't really see how we can get rid of rallying. We cant just use registered users because the votals would be terrible. It's unfortunate but its something we're just going to need to live with.
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#96 | GloryChaos | Posted 9/6/2013 12:08:33 PM | message detail
Guys.

Rally for Cloud.
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#97 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/6/2013 12:09:40 PM | message detail
BleedingRed posted...
I'm kind of hoping that people come to their senses tonight and the nostalgia for FFVII with the older crowd kicks in.


There is nothing that can top the nostalgia of R/B/Y so good luck with that.
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#98 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/6/2013 12:10:02 PM | message detail
You can always sign that petition to get more of the site involved with the polls. That being said, I doubt that brings up our votals much. I think our overall site traffic is simply down too much from peak.
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#99 | xp1337 | Posted 9/6/2013 12:10:03 PM | message detail
Short of a hard solution like "registered users only" I think the only real way to do it would be if votals recovered in a big way. And that's more, "rallying would become a lot harder so it probably just stops happening as often once they see they can't swing matches that aren't already close"
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#100 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/6/2013 12:10:12 PM | message detail
we can get rid of rallying by selecting a committee of 11 people to decide the match results prior to the contest
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