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AlecTrevelyan006 posted... KamikazePotato posted...Like, you're trying to create artificial drama where this is none. Pokemon hasn't lost a close match since 2007. With our historical votals, he probably keeps his streak up to this day. Rallies have supplanted the conventional wisdom. RallyFAQs is king. Welcome to the League. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Lightning Strikes posted... You know what we should do. Or maybe we can bribe him with a 40$ donation if he will rally for Megaman Hey,that LoL loser paid 40$ in his rally,we can do it to! (im not serious,getting down to this level is lame) |
So if you were to put a percentage on it: What percentage would you rate Draven to win the whole contest in comparison to any pokemon? Example: Draven 60% Any Pokemon 40% |
SirBillyNic posted... Who do you lot rate the favorite to win the entire Character Battle at this point? Snake, rallies/novelty will trip over themselves in a 3-way match and he's been fortunate to have a very soft route to the final. I have a bad feeling Sora will choke tomorrow which won't help stopping him. |
99% --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX |
Karma Hunter posted... You know what's almost just as close as eight votes out of 24.5k? 383 votes out of 122k. Oh, and probably drops to sub-100 vote spread without the downtime. Um there are maths issues here. In any case, I guess you missed the part where I'm significantly less anti-Draven now that he's been shown to be mortal. That's completely in line with what I just said, no hypocrisy. Now, if he beats Mewtwo and Seph by a million votes or something? I'll be right back to hating him. (And Link caught a heavy rally too, remember, which nullifies the comparison. Any rally Zelda got was kind of meek in comparision; my issue with people complaining about Zelda/Zard is twofold. One, that it was a close match and acting like a 19-vote difference which was preceeded 5 minutes earlier by a 33-vote cut isn't in question is lunacy, and two, that it was close enough that one person could have changed that outcome. Of the people complaining about Zard's win, how many of you actually did anything significant for Zelda? - Neither of these apply to Link/Draven) --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Et tu, FFD? Of all people I expected you to love Mega Man! --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. |
Draven 97% Random Pokemon 3% Because why not. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Draven: 100% Any Pokemon: 0% If Mewtwo reaches the finals, Squirtle is holding on here and beating Snake, Red/Zard are both making the semi-finals and split hard enough to let winner of Samus/L-Block/Tifa to the finals, where the Pokemon split lets them coast to the title. --- ~War~ |
Chester will break 30% on Draven due to anti votes alone thank you very much |
Karma Hunter posted... Draven 97% Even when you factor in Draven Threads being banned on reddit? |
Kinglicious posted... Et tu, FFD? I also have Cloud making the finals so if he loses today I think I'm out anyway. In that case, I'm down for a Blue Bomber run. INVISIBLE AUGMENTED MAGE MAN X IS A GO HONK HONK --- If you wake up at a different time, in a different place, could you wake up as a different person? [HERO'S PLUNGE] http://img.imgcake.com/finegifdy.gif |
Karma Hunter posted... AlecTrevelyan006 posted...KamikazePotato posted...Like, you're trying to create artificial drama where this is none. Pokemon hasn't lost a close match since 2007. ...rallies have supplanted "Mario never loses a close match"? Wasn't the whole point that "Nintendo fans will rally and make sure that Mario never loses a close match"? --- Menji has reclaimed what was his by rights. I was more of a man with his than with my own combined. ##Alec |
Charizard vs. Mario was separated by 6000 votes. It wasn't close. And Alec, Pokemon has been involved in a surprisingly large amount of close matches. And while it can lose, the odds are way way higher than it doesn't. I don't mind if someone supports all the Pokemon or whatever, but an attitude like XIII's, where he basically goes "Pokemon are such underdogs, look at them winning every close match and blowing out Noble Niners! Hey guys, why aren't you paying attention anymore? Quit being so hard on the Pokemon!" is really annoying. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
pokemon 100% Draven 0% --- WR WR WR WR WR |
SirBillyNic posted... Karma Hunter posted...Draven 97% That ban was easily circumvented by a loophole (and it didn't stop later threads from going up anyway). --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Karma Hunter posted... SubDeity posted...Karma Hunter posted...You know what's almost just as close as eight votes out of 24.5k? 383 votes out of 122k. Oh, and probably drops to sub-100 vote spread without the downtime. 1. That's not what hypocritical means. 2. Real numbers > imaginary ones 3. I was actually mixing you up with Kamikaze. Oops. --- "Hamas isn't really a terror organization." -Terran [Evil Republican] Play Der Langrisser. |
AlecTrevelyan006 posted... Karma Hunter posted...AlecTrevelyan006 posted...KamikazePotato posted...Like, you're trying to create artificial drama where this is none. Pokemon hasn't lost a close match since 2007. The point is the entire dynamic of rallying has changed. Before, Mario having more supporters on the board meant that those supporters would do more traditional rallying (asking friends, posting on message boards, heck people have called people in real life to rally for board favorites), and they would win. Now they can be outdone by one guy with a well-situated thread on /v/. War has changed. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
8am Here we go morning vote Let's see what it can do |
Mewtwo isn't even close to my favorite Pokemon, but he gets my vote in the match. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
...we've been in the thick of the morning vote for hours. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
1) Heroic Mario 2) Wanglicious 3) FFDragon We must unite for the blue bomber...! If Cloud falls then remember... The only thing superior to the blue turtle is the blue bomber. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. |
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Not gonna happen. Vivi's gonna get enough rally to push Red out of the way, and then Charizard will make the finals. I believe! --- RIP GrapefruitKing and Emporer_Kazbar. You will be missed. |
If people really
want to act like Link/Draven and Zelda/Charizard aren't comparable in
terms of closeness - even accounting for the fact that Link/Draven is
possibly just as close without the downtime - there's not much I
can do to change that perception. That's a fundamental disconnect. I
still think the general principle is the same: both rallied entities can
end up in close wins that they should have never contended for in the
first place. Praising one and condemning the other is inconsistent. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
What're the odds of Squirtle holding on for another 13 hours? --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Decent,
but as I've said, I still like Cloud here (maybe not quite with 51%
considering the ferocity of the rally... halve that?). Squirtle having a
40% chance of winning the match right now sounds good. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Seems like the rally is weakening , Squirtle has only been putting up stalls or getting cut for the last 20 minutes |
Not good enough odds and the vote difference is decreasing. C'mon Squirtle pull a Vivi here. --- http://myanimelist.net/animelist/swordz9 |
Nah,
rally's still going strong. Just natural trends that are hard to
overcome. That's the main reason why Cloud will be tough. Even if the
rallying intensifies come the end, Cloud's SNV is ridiculously killer.
Squirtle's stepped up his game twice, he needs to do it one more time to
pull it out tonight. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
I
don't mind if someone supports all the Pokemon or whatever, but an
attitude like XIII's, where he basically goes "Pokemon are such
underdogs, look at them winning every close match and blowing out Noble
Niners! Hey guys, why aren't you paying attention anymore? Quit being so
hard on the Pokemon!" is really annoying. I literally threw my arms up when I saw this. Your preconceived notion that anybody supporting Pokemon must have them down as some sort of "underdog" is really disgusting and that you continue to do absolutely everything to fit people into that category is even worse. Stop using that word. Underdog. The way you've used it to villainise Pokemon fans is kind of gross. FWIW I was shocked when I saw Zelda/Zard was close, and had Zard has clear favourite in that match. Would you stereotype me if I said Squirtle was the underdog against Cloud? Are you so out of touch with reality that I'm some mindless goon if I peg Squirtle as the underdog against a guy who beat Solid Snake last contest? And while we're doing this: the attitude of the stats topic doesn't help. There's probably more anti-Pokemon people concentrated in this topic than anywhere else on the board. If we're going to do this, if we're going to accuse people of certain attitudes that they may or may not actually have, then I strongly feel that people in this topic become more raucously pro-Pokemon because of the sheer amount of vitriol a lot of regulars spray out against it. In the end, I'm not the one saying a 15-vote match "was never in question". Stastically, historically, whatever category you like, that doesn't make a lick of sense. You think I'm the one out of touch with reality because of the incorrect notion that I paint every Pokemon as an underdog, but in the end that will always count against you. 15 votes. Not in question. Absolutely indisputable. Wasn't F5ing the page. Cared not even a little bit. Yeah, OK. Total lunacy. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Pokemon fans smell --- i'll do rydia -Dante |
"omg why doesn't everyone in the stats topic lurve pokemon :(" Stop crying. No one is being more immature right now than you. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
Karma Hunter posted... If people really want to act like Link/Draven and Zelda/Charizard aren't comparable in terms of closeness - even accounting for the fact that Link/Draven is possibly just as close without the downtime - there's not much I can do to change that perception. That's a fundamental disconnect. I still think the general principle is the same: both rallied entities can end up in close wins that they should have never contended for in the first place. Link/Draven and Zelda/Zard aren't comparable because Link caught one of the biggest rallies of all time to even make that close. Link himself was a "rallied entity" in that match. Now granted, his rally still wasn't as significant as Draven because of his insane base strength, but still - that Skyward Sword FB post (leading to a 300 vote cut or whatever it was), Trent Barretta's RT, all that stuff. Zelda, meanwhile, caught at best a meek counter-rally. If some - even a fraction - of the rallied Link voters see that match, Zelda wins. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
The Mana Sword posted... Pokemon fans smell I shower everyday and use a perfume |
If you want me to stop saying you fit a category, then stop fitting that category with every post you make! --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
So in 12 hours Squirtle wins. He wins too in 24 hours. I still can't believe it. I like Pokemon but this is ridiculous. --- GameFaqs is NOT the place to go for relationship advice.Nobody here gets any action unless it is their right or left hand.Including me.~Dawn and Dusk~ |
Now
that I think about it, how many winners who weren't noble nine members
won their matches due to rallies? The Sephiroth rally during the Kirby
match early hours was a pro Kirby rally in disguise. Missle got second
place because of a rally. Catherine got a rally against Neku. Luigi got
no rallies at all (making me wonder how much a rally would have changed
things against big boss). Let's try something then. Don't rally for charizard. Don't rally for megaman. Rally for Zero. If Zero at least manages to beat Megaman in that match, won't that be proof of just how much an individual can affect matches through rallies? It seems like the only time rallies matter are when the characters are close (Draven being the exception) and we know that Zero and Megaman are close. --- Brawl FC - 1332 8069 6690 http://i.imgur.com/OZ9aS.png |
Honestly
I had full confidence Draven would have won against Link even if the
match went 24 hours, all they need was to ramp up their rallies just a
bit to crush us, which they have done before, heck even within the match
when Draven shot up 2k votes after the site crashed. --- BOP Results: http://www.freewebs.com/charmander6000/CB9%20BOP.xls Points: 137/198 Today's Pick: Cloud Strife |
I'm
gonna have to go soon... but if I had to guess, based on the stalling
here. Squirtle should be up by 300-400 votes by the time the SNV hits?
Cloud can take that going away with the SNV, assuming rally power stays
constant. If he's up by more than 500 or if it looks like he gets a stronger rally, I'd change my prediction to Squirtle being the solid favorite. It's not impossible for Cloud to get rid of that, but every stall will hurt him that much more. --- Welcome to the League of Downtime. |
It is impossible to rally for mega man without rallying for zero. And I mean it in that order. Zero probably still rSFFs the guy. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. |
Rallies
only working in 'close' matches doesn't really pan out in this contest.
This match wouldn't be remotely close without the consistent rallying
that Squirtle is getting. Again, by the end of the day Cloud would be up
by over 6000 votes without the kind of fervent rallying Squirtle is
getting. --- The storm approaches...ain't got nothin' but time to plan. Graves - Caitlyn - Ezreal // Leona - Alistar - Nami |
Can't
wait to see Draven destroy these pathetic Pokémon.Out of everyone left
i'd want either Snake or Squall to win but Squall is losing to...shock
horror!! something from Pokémon and Snake will probably go down to
Draven. --- http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/330/958/a5b.gif |
And
if you honestly thought that the Zelda/Charizard match was completely
up in the air right until the end, then yeah, you're pretty out of
touch. I looked at that match when it was near the end and went "Hey,
Zelda is making it close. Too bad she's up against a Pokemon." Then I
stopped caring. And then Charizard won. Just like Missingno vs. Crono,
and Red/Blue vs. FF7, and Missingno vs. Tidus. Just like what has a
very, very good chance at happening today unless Cloud just kills it.
Pokemon makes close matches boring because Pokemon fans don't let their
entrants lose close matches. --- Black Turtle did a pretty good job. |
I
really don't get all this pokemon hate. If you don't like the game,
don't vote for it. Simple. Stop complaining that other people have
different tastes than yours. Even the Link hate made more sense than this, because he was the champion and everyone wanted to see the champion losing. Pokemon is just... pokemon. |
Karma Hunter posted... "omg why doesn't everyone in the stats topic lurve pokemon :(" You're free to like whatever game you want, but the prickly, vehement Pokemon hate you get in stats topics is what leads to arguments like this one. The way KP paints Pokemon fans as morons who think Pokemon are underdogs in every match is a symptom of that hate. I don't have an issue with people disliking Pokemon, lord knows I did until like 2009. But we're at a point now where Pokemon is treated as such an enemy, as such an antagonist, that the Redditors who made the board a kind of hell this week are now being favoured over Pokemon, where people are treating a margin of 15 votes as "not close", that Missingno's vote stuffers must be evil, villainous manipulators with SUPER SECRET stuffing methods that the poor, innocent Tidus stuffers (and this is the light that Tidus stuffers were cast in during that match) couldn't hope to keep up with. KamikazePotato posted... If you want me to stop saying you fit a category, then stop fitting that category with every post you make! There's a big long post for you to respond to there, I guess you must have skated over it - especially since you seem to completely ignore what I said about Charizard decidedly NOT being the underdog against Zelda. He's also the favourite against MM as well. I feel like you will just write me off as another one of "those people" (yes, that is what Pokemon fans now are to you, which is kind of sad) if I argue Squirtle's status as the underdog today going in, too, which really is insane. Or are you taking the time I called Mizno an underdog against Tidus seriously? --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Mizno would be the underdog. He'd also win with a better figure four than the miz despite having no limbs. --- The King Wang. Listen up Urinal Cake. I already have something that tells me if I'm too drunk when I pee on it: My friends. - Colbert. |
BleedingRed posted... Rallies only working in 'close' matches doesn't really pan out in this contest. This match wouldn't be remotely close without the consistent rallying that Squirtle is getting. Again, by the end of the day Cloud would be up by over 6000 votes without the kind of fervent rallying Squirtle is getting. 6000 is overestimation by far...try 2000 This is three ways,vote totals are crap,Squirtle is stronger than Kirby,Cloud is stronger than Sepihorth |
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KamikazePotato posted... And if you honestly thought that the Zelda/Charizard match was completely up in the air right until the end, then yeah, you're pretty out of touch. I looked at that match when it was near the end and went "Hey, Zelda is making it close. Too bad she's up against a Pokemon." Then I stopped caring. And then Charizard won. Just like Missingno vs. Crono, and Red/Blue vs. FF7, and Missingno vs. Tidus. Just like what has a very, very good chance at happening today unless Cloud just kills it. Pokemon makes close matches boring because Pokemon fans don't let their entrants lose close matches. Then you should have fixed it yourself. Knowing you were going to rally wouldn't have made Pokemon fans rally harder, so you would still have needed 15/16 votes. You could have gotten 15 votes in 5 minutes (or 19 in 10), so... I'd say it's sad what Pokemon has done to you. I knew it must have been bad during the Squirtle/Dante incident, but for a stats topic regular to completely disregard the idea of random variation, of a 15 vote update being in doubt, yeah, that's just a real shame. --- XIII_rocks, the cream of XIII fanboyism. |
Nanis23 posted... BleedingRed posted...Rallies only working in 'close' matches doesn't really pan out in this contest. This match wouldn't be remotely close without the consistent rallying that Squirtle is getting. Again, by the end of the day Cloud would be up by over 6000 votes without the kind of fervent rallying Squirtle is getting. 20 votes per update, 12 updates per hour, 24 hours. Do the math. On top of which it's likely that Cloud is still going to eat into this lead/get a lead himself before the end of the match increasing that number. --- When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves. Riven - Aatrox - Tryndamere |
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