Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1157

#1 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/6/2013 12:56:23 AM | message detail
I wasn't pursuing Link, I was being summoned by him.

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A = Strongest Character
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SFF (Same Fanbase Factor) - Same Fanbase Factor is the theory that, if two contestants share a common fanbase, the weaker of the two options will underperform in a direct matchup. For instance, Link was expected to defeat Ganon with 65% of the vote in 2004, based on their 2003 values. Instead, Link collected near 88% of the vote. This is the best example of SFF we've ever seen. However take some SFF labels with a grain of salt, as many people will slap it onto any match that doesn't make perfect sense.

Extrapolated Standings - The mathematical "strength" of a contestant that's determined based on their performance relative to the rest of the field. This number is typically based on the contest entrant's loss, but adjustments are sometimes made. See above for a watered down explanation for how the stats are calculated.
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#2 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 2:13:10 AM | message detail
Squirtle by the Hour on Cloud:

1:00 | 52.36%
2:00 | 49.60%
3:00 | 50.53%
4:00 | 46.19%
5:00 | 49.36%

Cloud wins the hour, but not by much, as Squirtle gets another good hour out of nowhere
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#3 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:14:22 AM | message detail
If Cloud manages to win, next round he will have his worst defeat yet. And next round too Sephiroth will too will have his worst defeat!
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#4 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:16:36 AM | message detail
Also now I know that it is late, but who was the weaker guy that went to round 2? In round 1 it was Chester for example.
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#5 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 2:16:53 AM | message detail
It'll be tough for Draven to kill Sephiroth worse than Cloud did in 2008, or for Snake to beat Cloud worse than L-Block did in 2007. I think the Sephiroth one is much more likely.
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#6 | SuorGenoveffa | Posted 9/6/2013 2:17:22 AM | message detail
Until when will Cloud be at his strongest? I have little to no understanding of time zones and trends.
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#7 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 2:18:37 AM | message detail
In the past, right now would be Cloud's strongest time. Nowadays, we are getting so few votals that normal Gamefaqs votes are almost drowned out by rallies at this time, so Cloud's strongest time should be later on. He'll only get stronger as the match progresses.
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#8 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:20:21 AM | message detail
Same happened with Sephiroth. 2 days ago in around that time he was losing to Kirby. Yet he won with more than 2000 votes. Cloud is stronger than Sephiroth by a lot. Squirtle is stronger by Kirby. But how much? That I don't know.
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#9 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:20:58 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Also now I know that it is late, but who was the weaker guy that went to round 2? In round 1 it was Chester for example.


Tharja or Yoshimitsu
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#10 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/6/2013 2:25:33 AM | message detail
Yoshimitsu definitely looked worse than Tharja
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#11 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:28:11 AM | message detail
By percent it was Magus with 12.51%
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#12 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:30:37 AM | message detail
weakest in round 2 was unrallied Draven
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why are you all looking at me like that
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#13 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:32:14 AM | message detail
It will be unfair to say Magus because Crono was there. So Yoshimitsu eh?
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#14 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:33:53 AM | message detail
Good job Cloud,it only took you 6 hours to get the lead against Squirtle
"Noble" Nine my ass
#15 | Achromatic | Posted 9/6/2013 2:34:35 AM | message detail
He doesn't have it yet, Nanis!

MAKE HIM EARN IT, SQUIRTLE.
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#16 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:36:33 AM | message detail
I can see the future!
#17 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 2:41:57 AM | message detail
10 more votes.
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#18 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:42:35 AM | message detail
oh man worst 500 post ever im sorry
Was supposed to be this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWYkDFiz-Tg
#19 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/6/2013 2:43:25 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Also now I know that it is late, but who was the weaker guy that went to round 2? In round 1 it was Chester for example.


Yoshimitsu.
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#20 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:44:53 AM | message detail
Okay nice. Cloud must build a huge lead before USA starts vote again.
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#21 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:46:14 AM | message detail
Boom
Sorry Squirtle
#22 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:46:44 AM | message detail
squirtle got moseyed on
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#23 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/6/2013 2:48:04 AM | message detail
Cloud's got his work cut out for him now...
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#24 | Qwaar | Posted 9/6/2013 2:49:47 AM | message detail
Cloud needs to pull away, but the problem is the recent trend of horrible vote totals. It'll be difficult to increase the lead very much in this environment.
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#25 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:50:57 AM | message detail
Match is over, Kirby was winning the US over Sephiroth comfortably at this time too. Cloud will dominate from here until the end barring a rally.
#26 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:52:50 AM | message detail
It's amazing how much Cloud owns Squirtle in Europe
You might think Pokemon is like Mega Man there or something..what is this
#27 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 2:58:15 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
It's amazing how much Cloud owns Squirtle in Europe
You might think Pokemon is like Mega Man there or something..what is this


The only disproportionate area is North America strongly favouring Pokemon. It's the same for every pokemon match.
#28 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:03:54 AM | message detail | (edited)
As always Americans don't have a good taste in video games.
Also what was the maximum lead for Squirtle?
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#29 | Yuri_LowelI | Posted 9/6/2013 3:03:45 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
Match is over, Kirby was winning the US over Sephiroth comfortably at this time too. Cloud will dominate from here until the end barring a rally.


Not this crap again. KIRBY IS NOT A POKEMON. When will people stop comparing Pokemon to standard Nintendo characters?
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#30 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:06:56 AM | message detail
Yuri_LowelI posted...
lightning-02 posted...
Match is over, Kirby was winning the US over Sephiroth comfortably at this time too. Cloud will dominate from here until the end barring a rally.


Not this crap again. KIRBY IS NOT A POKEMON. When will people stop comparing Pokemon to standard Nintendo characters?


It's a Nintendo character with a high element of joke votes, it's a very good comparison.
#31 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:07:00 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
As always Americans don't have a good taste in video games.
Also what was the maximum lead for Squirtle?


264,at 2:21

And I don't think it's about comparing Kirby to Pokemon,more like looking at FFVII trends
I don't predict a big Squirtle collapse like Kirby did,but 1000 votes lead sounds fair
#32 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/6/2013 3:15:48 AM | message detail
Squirtle by the Hour on Cloud:

1:00 | 52.36%
2:00 | 49.60%
3:00 | 50.53%
4:00 | 46.19%
5:00 | 49.36%
6:00 | 45.51%
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#33 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/6/2013 3:17:59 AM | message detail
Now that Cloud's taken the lead, looks like the rallies are starting back up to get Squirtle back ahead, huh.
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#34 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/6/2013 3:23:19 AM | message detail | (edited)
Squirtle's regained the lead by 1. (e: and lost it again)

Again, kinda rooting for Cloud here to see Snake/Cloud, and also in the small hope that Pikachu manages to beat Sora and then crushes them both when they split the bad-ass powerhouse vote. Squirtle/Pikachu would simply be too damn easy for Snake, as would Cloud/Sora to a lesser extent.

e2: One reason to root for Pikachu? We could get Crono > Snake and Cloud!
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#35 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/6/2013 3:24:35 AM | message detail
I guess I shouldn't vote for Sora to make Cloud/Snake interesting, but...

I just don't want to vote for more Pokemania at this point. Pikachu's chances of winning Cloud/Snake if he's there are nonzero.
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#36 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/6/2013 3:32:14 AM | message detail
Also, Mega Man vs Cloud. Who would you take at this point?
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#37 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/6/2013 3:36:02 AM | message detail
Trend chart for yesterday's match:

Time | Snake | GlaDOS | Kefka | Votes | Demographic
EBV | 45.12% | 23.83% | 31.05% | 512 | (0:00-0:05)
PHV | 47.25% | 25.76% | 26.99% | 5613 | (0:00-1:00)
FNV | 48.26% | 26.17% | 25.57% | 9882 | (1:00-6:00)
BSV | 45.86% | 26.98% | 27.16% | 5844 | (6:00-9:00)
DSV | 47.90% | 26.19% | 25.91% | 11298 | (9:00-14:30)
ASV | 47.44% | 26.65% | 25.91% | 11623 | (14:30-22:00)
SNV | 48.98% | 24.84% | 26.18% | 2250 | (22:00-24:00)

Snake dips a bit with the morning vote, but he's pretty strong across all other timeframes. Kefka was very consistent, posting the same percentage in two straight timeframes. Not a lot of movement when you have three characters with very similar trends.

X-Stats:

Solid Snake – 50.00%
GlaDOS – 35.59%
Kefka – 35.46%
Zack Fair – 32.83%
Ryu Hayabusa – 31.13%
Altair – 29.15%
Lara Croft – 28.89%
Epona – 28.33%
Alucard – 27.34%
Captain Falcon – 27.20%
Ike – 25.70%
Protoman – 25.50%
Ratchet – 24.73%
Rydia of Mist – 23.68%
Dr. Robotnik – 22.98%
Mordin Solus – 22.51%
Isaac – 22.20%
Bayonetta – 21.55%
Slime – 20.84%
Cole MacGrath – 20.54%
Shulk – 19.80%
Niko Bellic – 16.93%
Ragna the Bloodedge – 16.31%
N – 15.85%
Wander – 13.15%
Commander Keen – 10.64%
Yuri Hyuga – 8.55%

Snake's prediction percentage was 54.83%
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#38 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/6/2013 3:37:21 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, Mega Man vs Cloud. Who would you take at this point?


I don't understand how this is a question.
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#39 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:38:42 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Also, Mega Man vs Cloud. Who would you take at this point?


Nothing is linear anymore so entertaining these kind of matchups seems pointless.
What gimmick does Allen put into the poll to dilute strength? Is a Reddit rally involved? Is there another character in the poll? Is it 12 or 24 hours? Any bandwagon or backlash factors going on? What does /v/ think of the match? Will a DDOS occur and who will it favour? Who do the vote stuffers favour?

Too many factors before popularity on this site comes into it.
#40 | Not_Wylvane | Posted 9/6/2013 3:40:24 AM | message detail
Yeah, let's make a match that would be closer instead.

Sephiroth vs Guybrush Threepwood, who would win?
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#41 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:47:08 AM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
Yeah, let's make a match that would be closer instead.

Sephiroth vs Guybrush Threepwood, who would win?


Before or after Guybrush gets 97 votes removed?
#42 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:47:19 AM | message detail
Hm? why would Pikachu advance over Cloud and Snake? he will get LPF'd like MMX did
#43 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/6/2013 3:49:06 AM | message detail
You really think Pikachu isn't going to stand out like Squirtle is today and that Pokemon fans will just abandon him because there's two Noble Niners in the poll?
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#44 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 3:51:12 AM | message detail
Seems Squirtle is getting these rallies to fight the trends, if he can keep it close you'd have to favour him.
#45 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/6/2013 4:02:58 AM | message detail
I put a rally up on /v/ for Squirtle, seems there's one on /vp/ already. He'll need all he can get.
#46 | Averia | Posted 9/6/2013 4:04:37 AM | message detail
For now Squirtle is pushing back but I'm not sure how long they can last
#47 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/6/2013 4:12:35 AM | message detail
At this point Squirtle has been rallied a lot more than Kirby, to the point where it's not even a comparison anymore. He's still just barely keeping himself afloat.
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#48 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/6/2013 4:21:11 AM | message detail
Why people don't rally for Cloud?
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#49 | -Zelmor- | Posted 9/6/2013 4:22:54 AM | message detail
The saddest thing about FF7 is that not only is it much weaker these days, it is also pretty much unrallyable. If you attempt to rally for it, your endeavor usually ends up backfiring.

Given the low votals, it's extremely detrimental to their strength.
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#50 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/6/2013 4:23:41 AM | message detail
It's not possible to rally for Cloud. There are four threads from people here spamming /v/ and /vp/ in order to get people to vote for Squirtle. One is pretending to rally for Cloud. To of course get people to vote for Squirtle.

...and it adds up to barely stalling the guy. It's not like this is a 12 hour match or anything, either.
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