Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1156

#251 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 9:25:20 PM | message detail
But hey, if Cloud can pull this off, he'll have arguably vanquished the toughest opponent he'll face this contest until the finals!
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#252 | creativename | Posted 9/5/2013 9:25:50 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Sephiroth>Cloud was true until Kingdom Hearts came out!

No way to say for sure, but I doubt it. With SFF and Mario overperforming on Cloud he probably would have outdone Link in the match.

Very, very doubtful.

Anyone familiar with the fanbase in the late 90's knows Seph was the strongest.

Also in 2K3 Cloud barely beat Seph - this despite having FAR more reason to boost from Kingdom Hearts. He was a legit character in KH, Seph just an optional boss fight. KH meant much more for Cloud.

Yet they were still pretty even the next year. That should tell you everything you need to know about who was stronger between Cloud and Seph pre-2K3.
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#253 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:26:44 PM | message detail
Holding steady.
#254 | MegatokyoEd | Posted 9/5/2013 9:26:52 PM | message detail
Holy **** at Leon being absolutely abandoned.

He's going to look terrible.
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#255 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:27:05 PM | message detail
Squall was down 150 to Missingno the first update and came out fine. The trends really really favor Cloud at this point. For like......55%. Even with our pathetic votals, that works out to 4000+ votes Squirtle needs to rally. It's just about impossible to rally that many when you're not a League of Legends character.
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#256 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/5/2013 9:27:42 PM | message detail
Not worried even a little. People love to anti-vote FFVII.
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#257 | AlecTrevelyan006 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:28:16 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Squall was down 150 to Missingno the first update and came out fine. The trends really really favor Cloud at this point. For like......55%. Even with our pathetic votals, that works out to 4000+ votes Squirtle needs to rally. It's just about impossible to rally that many when you're not a League of Legends character.


Or Link.
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#258 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:28:46 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Squall was down 150 to Missingno the first update and came out fine. The trends really really favor Cloud at this point. For like......55%. Even with our pathetic votals, that works out to 4000+ votes Squirtle needs to rally. It's just about impossible to rally that many when you're not a League of Legends character.


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#259 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 9:28:49 PM | message detail
Oh yeah, pure trends make this a 100% lock for Cloud. There's always an outside shot if people are obsessed enough though.
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#260 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/5/2013 9:28:52 PM | message detail
creativename posted...
charmander6000 posted...
Sephiroth>Cloud was true until Kingdom Hearts came out!

No way to say for sure, but I doubt it. With SFF and Mario overperforming on Cloud he probably would have outdone Link in the match.

Very, very doubtful.

Anyone familiar with the fanbase in the late 90's knows Seph was the strongest.

Also in 2K3 Cloud barely beat Seph - this despite having FAR more reason to boost from Kingdom Hearts. He was a legit character in KH, Seph just an optional boss fight. KH meant much more for Cloud.

Yet they were still pretty even the next year. That should tell you everything you need to know about who was stronger between Cloud and Seph pre-2K3.


Cloud has always been stronger don't kid yourself.
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#261 | ZenOfThunder | Posted 9/5/2013 9:29:03 PM | message detail
MegatokyoEd posted...
Holy **** at Leon being absolutely abandoned.

He's going to look terrible.


think about how bad Shadow, Gordon, Yu, Kat, Wesker, Oliver, Hades and Simon are going to look

especially if squirtle gets crushed later on
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#262 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/5/2013 9:29:23 PM | message detail
I wish /r/pokemon actually gave a damn about this contest. They could really set off some fireworks if they wanted to.
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#263 | GloriousSweater | Posted 9/5/2013 9:29:35 PM | message detail
When I was new here in 2002 and relatively unfamiliar with Final Fantasy, "Sephiroth" was the one name/contest entrant that everyone tossed around more than Cloud. Seph was DEFINITELY the pre-contest favorite to win the contest, and a reputation like that doesn't just emanate from thin air. He almost surely must have been the most popular FF character from 1998-2001. I just heard so much about him.

Kinda funny because Ganondorf pretty much kicks his ass in every way imaginable, and this is coming from a guy who likes Seph.
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#264 | CP724 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:29:56 PM | message detail
Not worried even a little. People love to anti-vote FFVII.

incredibly insightful analysis.
#265 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:30:16 PM | message detail
Based on Crono/Vincent 2007, Cloud wins with 57.06% on Squirtle.
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#266 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:30:35 PM | message detail
Very, very doubtful.

Anyone familiar with the fanbase in the late 90's knows Seph was the strongest.

Also in 2K3 Cloud barely beat Seph - this despite having FAR more reason to boost from Kingdom Hearts. He was a legit character in KH, Seph just an optional boss fight. KH meant much more for Cloud.

Yet they were still pretty even the next year. That should tell you everything you need to know about who was stronger between Cloud and Seph pre-2K3.


Using a constant Alucard puts Cloud above Sephiroth in 2002 without taking any Link/Mario SFF into account.
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#267 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/5/2013 9:30:56 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
Based on Crono/Vincent 2007, Cloud wins with 57.06% on Squirtle.


oh yes
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#268 | Surskit | Posted 9/5/2013 9:31:42 PM | message detail
Ganondorf is so boring, though. Zelda is probably the only interesting major recurring character in the LoZ series.
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#269 | UberPyro64 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:31:44 PM | message detail
Cloud and Squirtle both went down again thanks to Leon.
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#270 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:32:05 PM | message detail
Keep gaining, Squirtle. You need as big an early lead as you can get.
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#271 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/5/2013 9:32:24 PM | message detail
this time he used Withdraw and raised his defenses...
THEN USED A SECOND SKULL BASH.
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#272 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:32:43 PM | message detail
Crono/Vincent projections never lie. This one is over.
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#273 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 9:32:46 PM | message detail
Cloud is now ahead of the percentage he had on Snake at this time last contest.
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#274 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/5/2013 9:33:09 PM | message detail
and don't look now Cloud.
but Squirtle's got the percentage of death locked on.
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#275 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/5/2013 9:34:05 PM | message detail
Sephiroth was never more popular than Cloud. Was he the better character? Maybe. However, the vast majority of people tend to identify more with the main character of any game (for the most part). Cloud has always been, and will always be, more popular than Seph (unless for some reason they make a Sephiroth game where he's the main character which would be amazing).
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#276 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:34:22 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Cloud is now ahead of the percentage he had on Snake at this time last contest.


don't worry, Squirtle gonna show Snake how to use a day vote ;)
#277 | Luigiman59 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:34:45 PM | message detail
Is there any way we can skip the next match and have one of the semi-finals just be Snake vs Cloud?
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#278 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/5/2013 9:35:05 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
When I was new here in 2002 and relatively unfamiliar with Final Fantasy, "Sephiroth" was the one name/contest entrant that everyone tossed around more than Cloud. Seph was DEFINITELY the pre-contest favorite to win the contest, and a reputation like that doesn't just emanate from thin air. He almost surely must have been the most popular FF character from 1998-2001. I just heard so much about him.

Kinda funny because Ganondorf pretty much kicks his ass in every way imaginable, and this is coming from a guy who likes Seph.


Anecdotes like these always make me wish I was around back then. The predictions for contest champion must have been hilariously varied.

You just know there were people arguing for dudes like Crash and Ryu.
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#279 | Team Rocket Elite (Moderator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:37:04 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
When I was new here in 2002 and relatively unfamiliar with Final Fantasy, "Sephiroth" was the one name/contest entrant that everyone tossed around more than Cloud. Seph was DEFINITELY the pre-contest favorite to win the contest, and a reputation like that doesn't just emanate from thin air. He almost surely must have been the most popular FF character from 1998-2001. I just heard so much about him.

Kinda funny because Ganondorf pretty much kicks his ass in every way imaginable, and this is coming from a guy who likes Seph.


No, Mario was the pre-contest favourite:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/odds.html
Sephiroth was above Cloud, though. However, it was a weighted system to Cloud was probably hurt from sharing a division with Mario.
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#280 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:38:53 PM | message detail
Mario was the site's favorite to win the 2002 contest. The odds were given as 6:1. Snake was next at 8:1, and then Sephiroth and Link at 9:1. Cloud was at 14:1. Strangely enough, the Noble Nine took up 9 out of the top 10, with Dante sneaking in ahead of Sonic and Mega Man.

http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/odds.html
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#281 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 9:40:21 PM | message detail
The one hope Squirtle should have I think (because the trends are very unfavorable to him right now if this is the most he can do) is that the pic factor he has should become more pronounced as the match goes on, given that it has more of a casual influence. That could give him a disproportionately good day vote to offset Cloud being normally stronger at that time.

Don't like his chances right now. Still like Cloud with 51, maybe 52%.
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#282 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:07 PM | message detail
Let's mosey, Cloud. It's been 40 minutes. Time to skyrocket!
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#283 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:15 PM | message detail
Yay 200 votes.
#284 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:16 PM | message detail
41 vote gain
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#285 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:17 PM | message detail
aw yeah. 200 barrier get.
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#286 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:17 PM | message detail
Crono coming in at 6th in the odds blows my mind. I would never have predicted him to do as well as he did in that contest
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#287 | TheOceIot | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:24 PM | message detail
oh boy cloud
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#288 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:32 PM | message detail
Cloud, that was not the kind of change we can believe in.
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#289 | Surskit | Posted 9/5/2013 9:41:48 PM | message detail
Monster Squirtle update there!

ya go my squirtle
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#290 | Achromatic | Posted 9/5/2013 9:42:17 PM | message detail
Squirtle currently not giving any ****s.
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#291 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:42:19 PM | message detail
Use Withdraw, Squirtle. Need that defense.
#292 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 9:42:20 PM | message detail
Oh, and Squirtle is getting rallied a lot, right now. If you couldn't tell.
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#293 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:42:39 PM | message detail
Surskit posted...
Monster Squirtle update there!

ya go my squirtle


actually that was all Cloud falling off a cliff
#294 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/5/2013 9:42:47 PM | message detail
Team Rocket Elite posted...
GloriousSweater posted...
When I was new here in 2002 and relatively unfamiliar with Final Fantasy, "Sephiroth" was the one name/contest entrant that everyone tossed around more than Cloud. Seph was DEFINITELY the pre-contest favorite to win the contest, and a reputation like that doesn't just emanate from thin air. He almost surely must have been the most popular FF character from 1998-2001. I just heard so much about him.

Kinda funny because Ganondorf pretty much kicks his ass in every way imaginable, and this is coming from a guy who likes Seph.


No, Mario was the pre-contest favourite:
http://solarshadow2002.tripod.com/odds.html
Sephiroth was above Cloud, though. However, it was a weighted system to Cloud was probably hurt from sharing a division with Mario.


Wow! This is an amazing time capsule. Thank you for posting this, TRE.

Shocked to see Dante so high. He always struck me as being the kind of guy whose popularity would take casuals by surprise.
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#295 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:43:31 PM | message detail
I wish I knew where the rallies are! I'm -5 points on Reddit with mine, haha.
#296 | Wanglicious | Posted 9/5/2013 9:43:35 PM | message detail
squirtle meanwhile went right back up....

TO THE PERCENTAGE OF DEATH.
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#297 | UberPyro64 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:44:39 PM | message detail
Achromatic posted...
Squirtle currently not giving any ****s.


Well yeah. Squirtles are like Honey Badgers aren't they?
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#298 | ZFS | Posted 9/5/2013 9:44:58 PM | message detail
go squirtle
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#299 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:46:34 PM | message detail
A modest rise, but he needs all he can get.
#300 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:46:39 PM | message detail
Cloud's flirting with 40%
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