Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1156

#101 | Ngamer64 | Posted 9/5/2013 7:20:15 PM | message detail
Yeah creative we were given the ability to change the '09 Games Contest bracket, and these are the swaps we did

11) Super Street Fighter II Turbo ('92-'94) (this game was later removed and replaced with Mortal Kombat 2)

12) Super Smash Bros. ('98-'00) (this game was later removed and replaced with Soul Calibur)

13) Fallout ('95-'97) (this game was later removed and replaced with Donkey Kong Country 2)

14) Golden Sun ('01-'03) (this game was later removed and replaced with Fire Emblem)

15) Panzer Dragoon Saga ('98-'00) (this game was later removed and replaced with Deus Ex)

16) The World Ends With You ('07-'09) (this game was later removed and replaced with Street Fighter IV)
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#102 | -hotdogturtle-- | Posted 9/5/2013 7:29:04 PM | message detail
From: Ngamer64 | #101
11) Super Street Fighter II Turbo ('92-'94) (this game was later removed and replaced with Mortal Kombat 2)

12) Super Smash Bros. ('98-'00) (this game was later removed and replaced with Soul Calibur)


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#103 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 7:31:45 PM | message detail | (edited)
It looks like roughly half the pictures are overtly biased toward Squirtle (Squirtle stands out in all of them naturally as part of his base appeal, so this is only accounting for the ones where it looks like the picsmith actively tried to rig it on top of that). That's a sizable disadvantage, but not drastically different from the Kirby match.

I'm not sold on Squirtle > Kirby naturally in R1, but at this point in the contest, bandwagoned against Cloud, he probably is. Advantage Squirtle.
Cloud is naturally stronger than Sephiroth, and has probably fallen less than him given that he's the main character. Advantage Cloud.
Squirtle is going to be rallied, and more than Kirby was by a significant amount. Advantage Squirtle.
Cloud has a 24 hour match, and Seph in his 24 hour match got 53% on Kirby despite a significant rally. Advantage Cloud.
I'm going back and forth on whether Leon's presence hurts or helps Squirtle relative to Big Boss. I'm going to go with helps, because Leon has no potential to sunder any rallying like Big Boss. Advantage Squirtle.

I'll predict Cloud gets 51% on Squirtle, but being a Pokemon at this point in the contest means that Cloud could lose this match by a surprising margin. Like, look like he would have a close match with Dante surprising.

save_us.draven
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#104 | ZFS | Posted 9/5/2013 7:31:55 PM | message detail
Squirtle better than Draven. The only good Pokemon, really!
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#105 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 7:33:53 PM | message detail
Don't make me actively rally for Draven

I will become this contest's salvation through destruction
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#106 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 7:34:35 PM | message detail
Prepare for 60/40. Cloud's got this.
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#107 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/5/2013 7:35:36 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Don't make me actively rally for Draven

I will become this contest's salvation through destruction


oh no you don't
#108 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 7:36:14 PM | message detail
My hopes are slim, but Squirtle at least has the potential.
#109 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 7:37:03 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Don't make me actively rally for Draven

I will become this contest's salvation through destruction


oh no you don't


get buttfurious
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#110 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/5/2013 7:37:43 PM | message detail
BleedingRed posted...
So when Cloud absolutely steamrolls Squirtle are people going to attribute that to Cloud being strong or pokemon being weaker than expected and Snake is still better than Cloud etc?
Snake is likely stronger than Cloud whether the latter steamrolls Squirtle or not. "Not coming close to losing to Squirtle" is not a feat of strength for a guy that used to be the #2. It'll only mean he might make it respectable against Snake.

Every time you post, I kind of get the sense you haven't seen any FFVII-related results later than 2009 or so.
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#111 | ZFS | Posted 9/5/2013 7:38:25 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Don't make me actively rally for Draven

I will become this contest's salvation through destruction


oh no you don't


get buttfurious


Haha.
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#112 | TheCodeisBosco | Posted 9/5/2013 7:41:28 PM | message detail
GlaDOS is one of the stars of the contest. I think she's going to continue to grow in strength, too. Portal's going to be the kind of game people get particularly nostalgic for.
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#113 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/5/2013 7:47:49 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
Don't make me actively rally for Draven

I will become this contest's salvation through destruction


oh no you don't


get buttfurious


Haha.


The Army of Buttfury will rule!

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#114 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 7:52:36 PM | message detail
If GameFAQs is to change, then let it change. If I must rally for a champion everyone else will hate as much as I do five of the Final Nine being Pokemon, so be it. If my fate is to buttmad... I must simply LoL!
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#115 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/5/2013 7:52:52 PM | message detail
God Kefka why can't you make up a measly 100 votes

Anyway, I don't believe in Squirtle here. Sure, Cloud will draw a lot of antivotes, but his base strength should be high enough to stop any Pokemon you put here besides maybe like Mewtwo Charizard or Pikachu.
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#116 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/5/2013 7:56:01 PM | message detail
Also, I'm calling Sora > Blue > Pikachu right now. I have to believe Gary Oak is going to be the favorite among Pokemon fans despite Pikachu's wider appeal; this'll be Kefka > Zack all over again.
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#117 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 7:59:05 PM | message detail
If it's Draven against Pokemon in the final, I'm voting Draven.

If it's Draven against Snake and Samus in the final........sorry KH, I'm voting Draven.

If it's Draven against a former character battle champion in the final, I'm voting the former character battle champion. Gotta keep the champions club as small as possible for His Royal Radiance.
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#118 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 8:02:05 PM | message detail
By that logic, Samus has already won a contest anyway!
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#119 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 8:04:15 PM | message detail
Samus and Mario haven't won any contests. Link won both of those. I'd almost say Sephiroth hasn't won a character battle either- I guess I'll credit him with.....enough to vote him over Draven. He's already won a joke contest, having him win another joke contest doesn't harm our hero so much.
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#120 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/5/2013 8:07:12 PM | message detail
AxemRedRanger posted...
BleedingRed posted...
So when Cloud absolutely steamrolls Squirtle are people going to attribute that to Cloud being strong or pokemon being weaker than expected and Snake is still better than Cloud etc?
Snake is likely stronger than Cloud whether the latter steamrolls Squirtle or not. "Not coming close to losing to Squirtle" is not a feat of strength for a guy that used to be the #2. It'll only mean he might make it respectable against Snake.

Every time you post, I kind of get the sense you haven't seen any FFVII-related results later than 2009 or so.


I know I saw this later than 2009.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(1)Cloud_Strife_vs_(1)Solid_Snake_2010
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#121 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 8:08:35 PM | message detail
Though I haven't actually voted for Link in a final or Link/Cloud match since 2005.

2006: Cloud
2007: Cloud
2008: Crono
2010: Cloud

My memory is very fuzzy on 2003, but I think I bracket voted for Cloud over Link, so I've actually voted for Cloud more than I've voted for Link. Well, I support having a different winner some of the time......as long as it's one of 3 characters.
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#122 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/5/2013 8:20:59 PM | message detail
BleedingRed posted...
AxemRedRanger posted...
BleedingRed posted...
So when Cloud absolutely steamrolls Squirtle are people going to attribute that to Cloud being strong or pokemon being weaker than expected and Snake is still better than Cloud etc?
Snake is likely stronger than Cloud whether the latter steamrolls Squirtle or not. "Not coming close to losing to Squirtle" is not a feat of strength for a guy that used to be the #2. It'll only mean he might make it respectable against Snake.

Every time you post, I kind of get the sense you haven't seen any FFVII-related results later than 2009 or so.


I know I saw this later than 2009.

http://board8.wikia.com/wiki/(1)Cloud_Strife_vs_(1)Solid_Snake_2010
Right. Cloud only beat Snake by a few percent that year, FFVII has been in a long-term decline, it's been three years since that contest, and FFVII has indeed looked notably worse than 2010 based on its performances this contest. Cloud went from 66% on Ryu in 2010 to 64% on Frog this contest. Sephiroth only got 57% on Big Boss and wasn't too far from losing to Kirby. Vincent looked terrible against KOS-MOS even if you excuse his Round 2 loss.
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#123 | Heroic Viktor | Posted 9/5/2013 8:21:43 PM | message detail
God, this result is so disappointing. Where is George Romero when you really need him???
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#124 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/5/2013 8:24:53 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
If it's Draven against Pokemon in the final, I'm voting Draven.

If it's Draven against Snake and Samus in the final........sorry KH, I'm voting Draven.

If it's Draven against a former character battle champion in the final, I'm voting the former character battle champion. Gotta keep the champions club as small as possible for His Royal Radiance.


so I take it you will vote for L-Block in the final right ;)
#125 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 8:29:31 PM | message detail
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#126 | This_Contest | Posted 9/5/2013 8:35:36 PM | message detail
What is more likely? Squirtle beating Cloud, or L-Block beating Samus?
#127 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 8:38:21 PM | message detail
Probably the former, but not by too much.
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#128 | spooky96 | Posted 9/5/2013 8:39:18 PM | message detail
This_Contest posted...
What is more likely? Squirtle beating Cloud, or L-Block beating Samus?


Squirtle beating Cloud.
#129 | creativename | Posted 9/5/2013 8:40:00 PM | message detail
I'm pretty surprised at the lack of support for Squirtle in the Oracle.

If this was a 12 hour match Cloud would have a huge chance to botch this. Squirtle will get rallied/bandwagoned much harder than Kirby.

Also, who do people think is strong - Kirby of Mewtwo? Mewtwo has looked great but Sonic and Bowser clearly destroyed each other there. I'm having a hard time getting a real read on Mewtwo.

This_Contest posted...
What is more likely? Squirtle beating Cloud, or L-Block beating Samus?

Both are extremely possible IMO, but I think Samus is in severe danger of losing to L-Block.

Tifa being such a strong and independent force means the non-joke LFF will be very heavy.

Plus I think people realize that if anyone will beat Draven, it will be L-Block. So it might get a small boost from that.
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#130 | red sox 777 (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/5/2013 8:41:03 PM | message detail
L-Block. Our best hope to stop Draven.
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#131 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 8:44:59 PM | message detail
Almost Squirtle time. Just don't look bad is all I ask.
#132 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/5/2013 8:48:52 PM | message detail
Man, this would be a pretty epic set of final updates if the margin was about 97 votes closer.
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#133 | Dabrikishaw15 | Posted 9/5/2013 8:53:54 PM | message detail
Solid Snake
47.6%
22067 Votes
Vote Solid Snake!

GlaDOS
26.29%
12186 Votes
Vote GlaDOS!

Kefka
26.11%
12102 Votes
Vote Kefka!
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#134 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/5/2013 8:56:18 PM | message detail
Kefka just needs to pull a Link level last minute update here!

lol yeah right another 0 for me
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#135 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 8:58:14 PM | message detail
Go Squirtle!
#136 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/5/2013 8:58:23 PM | message detail
Way to go Kefka. You haven't changed after all.
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#137 | abdou | Posted 9/5/2013 8:59:04 PM | message detail
I have a feeling Cloud is going down ;(

hopefully I'm wrong as usual
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#138 | Qwaar | Posted 9/5/2013 8:59:20 PM | message detail
Shame Kefka didn't start this cutting an hour ago.
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#139 | Kibago | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:13 PM | message detail
16-6-3 Squirtle.
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#140 | tennisboy213 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:16 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted


Cloud Strife
33.33%
6 Votes

Squirtle
61.11%
11 Votes
Your Pick

Leon Kennedy
5.56%
1 Votes
Total Votes: 18
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#141 | Janus5000 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:23 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife
26.47%
9 Votes

Squirtle
64.71%
22 Votes
Your Pick

Leon Kennedy
8.82%
3 Votes

squirt
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#142 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:24 PM | message detail
Not as tasty as a Jill Sandwich
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#143 | hylianknight3 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:27 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife
31.67%
19 Votes

Squirtle
60%
36 Votes
Your Pick

Leon Kennedy
8.33%
5 Votes
#144 | LordoftheMorons | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:30 PM | message detail
Vote Accepted
Cloud Strife
30%
3 Votes
Your Pick

Squirtle
60%
6 Votes

Leon Kennedy
10%
1 Votes
Total Votes: 10
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#145 | JJH777 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:33 PM | message detail
Squirtle already dead
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#146 | Scarlettail | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:34 PM | message detail
Just seeing Squirtle lead for a bit is sweet.
#147 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:50 PM | message detail
Cloud Strife
37.5%
30 Votes
Vote Cloud!


Squirtle
55%
44 Votes
Vote Squirtle!

Leon Kennedy
7.5%
6 Votes
Vote Leon!



Total Votes: 80

Ooh, Leon.
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#148 | xp1337 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:51 PM | message detail
30 second reaction: Looking great for Cloud
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#149 | KamikazePotato | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:53 PM | message detail
Cloud wins.
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#150 | CP724 | Posted 9/5/2013 9:00:54 PM | message detail
omg leon haha