Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1154

#401 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 6:12:47 PM | message detail
I think you're underestimating Kefka by quite a bit if you think he hasn't budged since 2010.
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#402 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 6:18:14 PM | message detail
I also don't think Snake being #2 carries quite the same weight it might have at the start of the contest. It's not like when Cloud was #2, where he was a whole tier above even the rest of the NN. The strength gaps in general seem. More condensed now than they ever were before. Like, what do people think Snake gets on Sephiroth, who I think we agree is bottom tier in the NN? Kefka's going to look pretty great here. People are just looking for that one moment when he doesn't so they can be like 'I knew Kefka sucked!!'
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#403 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 6:32:51 PM | message detail
those sub-110 vote updates!
#404 | AxemRedRanger | Posted 9/4/2013 6:32:52 PM | message detail
Kefka's my favorite character in the contest and I don't think he sucks. Nothing would make me happier than near-elite Kefka. Well, other than Elite Kefka.

But I feel like some people are absurdly over-hyping him and don't want another round of "I knew Kefka sucked!! lol kefka is a troll his matches make no sense" if Good Pictures Kefka fails to have boosted as much as Big Boss has since their respective low points.
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#405 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/4/2013 6:37:16 PM | message detail
I don't know what to think anymore aaaaaaa let's just give Snake a bye and go to the next match
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#406 | creativename | Posted 9/4/2013 6:37:44 PM | message detail
If image 6 was the only image Kefka would overperform sooo much.

Seriously that's even better than laughing Kefka IMO. He looks sweet there.

Also from the heavy use of sprite Kefka I think any chance GlaDos had is pretty much gone. She should be distant 3rd.

AxemRedRanger posted...
I'd love to see Kefka look amazing here but some of you people are literally calling for Kefka with good pics to be a near-elite.

This is clearly NOT any previous iteration of Kefka. He wouldn't have pasted his first two round matchups if it were.
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#407 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/4/2013 6:39:03 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
those sub-110 vote updates!


Yeah, if a match was close near the end of a 24 match looks like rallies might be pretty effective. There's going to be more people awake at 10:00-12:00 and the incoming votes are on the same level as the 4:00 AM to 6:00 AM range.
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#408 | creativename | Posted 9/4/2013 6:40:36 PM | message detail
ZFS posted...
I also don't think Snake being #2 carries quite the same weight it might have at the start of the contest. It's not like when Cloud was #2, where he was a whole tier above even the rest of the NN. The strength gaps in general seem. More condensed now than they ever were before. Like, what do people think Snake gets on Sephiroth, who I think we agree is bottom tier in the NN?

Most of the Noble Nine is being labeled "bottom of the Noble Nine" at this point!!

Seriously, that label is being flung around so much. Most of them have looked horrid but they can't *all* be bottom of the NN.

You have Link, Snake, maybe Samus and then the rest. The rest are all likely fairly close together, and if the matches were multi-way lots of things could probably change the results pretty easily.

Also you have a bunch of Pokemon in that lower-NN tier.
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#409 | Sonic_Druid | Posted 9/4/2013 6:42:04 PM | message detail
I think some people are under-estimating GlaDos here. Granted, she'll lose pretty badly. However, I can't help but feel that she could potentially play a factor here in this match.
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#410 | xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2013 6:42:46 PM | message detail
Well, they keep finding ways to get thrown down there!

Crono going to come out of this looking better than he came in and he was the first to go!
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#411 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 6:45:29 PM | message detail
Luigi vs Sonic 1v1, who do you take
#412 | creativename | Posted 9/4/2013 6:56:46 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
I'm more and more thinking Snake and Cloud are going to steamroll their matches. Guess we'll see soon.

Snake will (though Kefka should impress, relatively speaking). Cloud almost certainly won't.
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#413 | thunderstruck9 | Posted 9/4/2013 6:57:40 PM | message detail
Wow Kefka looks awesome in those pics. I know Snakes gonna lay the smack down but I think Kefka may impress here.
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#414 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:00:01 PM | message detail
Man, Big Boss's percentage has barely budged since the ASV started.

Metal Gear ASV holding firm
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#415 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:00:17 PM | message detail
Also, I gotta say I like the first two pics the best. The others are way too busy.
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#416 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:05:06 PM | message detail
Match CXII: (1) Solid Snake vs. (2) GlaDOS vs. (7) Kefka

Previous Round

Solid Snake – 60.57%
Alucard – 22.79%
Bayonetta – 16.64%

GlaDOS – 44.92%
Epona – 29.70%
Ike – 25.39%

Kefka – 41.93%
Altair – 29.26%
Lara Croft – 28.82%

Analysis

Had this been the sprite round I would have entertained the idea for an upset, but Solid Snake along with Samus and Mega Man have been the only noble nine members to look like noble nine characters over the past two rounds. Snake performed so well last round it looked as if he would be able to defeat Link without the help of a Nintendo character. Of course it is possible Alucard is weaker or Snake got some kind of Playstation SFF. Regardless we will never know if Snake would have been able to defeat Link by himself, even if Link won a few matches ago.

Kefka proved his first round performance was no fluke, he has indeed become stronger. Maybe it is because he has better pictures and more people now recognize him in his clown form instead of his sprite. A Kefka sprite against Solid **** would have likely been worse than Snake/Pikachu. I am not sure if I would take this year’s Kefka over 2010 Pikachu, but I know I would not be alone in thinking of the upset.

GlaDOS looked really well last round. While LFF is to blame she is worth more than the doubling Kirby did in 2010. With that said I do not believe she will challenge Kefka for second. At best I can see her keeping close and while it is Kefka and he could randomly decide to screw with us again I think the status quo will remain.

People have been looking for the best character to defeat Draven and I think the best opponent would be Solid Snake. He is likely the strongest character remaining, is universally well known and does not suffer from massive anti-votes. Sadly the major issue is that there is no character to take the role of Commander Shepard and get utterly crushed.

charmander6000’s Bracket: Solid Snake > Ryu Hayabusa and GlaDOS

charmander6000’s Prediction: Solid Snake – 47.34%, Kefka – 31.62%, GlaDOS – 20.04%
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#417 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/4/2013 7:05:56 PM | message detail
1) Snake is not the 2nd strongest character.
2) Snake is going to easily win today.
3) Cloud is going to steamroll on Friday.
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#418 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:08:36 PM | message detail
93 vote update for the match!
this limbo game is pretty entertaining
#419 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:09:27 PM | message detail
Actually, last pic is really good, too.

People keep doubting Snake despite him being the only NN not to lay a dump in at least one match this year!

Well, Samus's two matches have been fine, too, I guess.
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#420 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/4/2013 7:14:45 PM | message detail
With the pace this contest is going that streak of good luck could collapse at any time!
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#421 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:17:07 PM | message detail
Yeah, I keep thinking tomorrow's match is the first straightforward match we've had in quite some time.

And that thought concerns me!
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#422 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/4/2013 7:26:44 PM | message detail
Kefka

Straightforward.
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#423 | xp1337 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:28:03 PM | message detail
The only real way I see tomorrow going off the rails is Kefka just totally imploding and getting last!

I just can't comprehend the notion of Snake losing this.
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#424 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:29:21 PM | message detail
Well, I'd be flabbergasted if Snake lost. I'd just be concerned about a weird performance from him.
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#425 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:32:01 PM | message detail
Cloud/Sephiroth/L-Block finals

With Cloud > L-Block

This would be so absurdly funny, I hope reddit figures this out. There is no better way to troll Link fans.
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#426 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:32:47 PM | message detail
It'd be a fitting end to these contests if Cloud somehow got rally power to win a contest.
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#427 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/4/2013 7:35:57 PM | message detail
xp1337 posted...
The only real way I see tomorrow going off the rails is Kefka just totally imploding and getting last!

I just can't comprehend the notion of Snake losing this.


If that happens... "Once a choker, always a choker" is the only way to describe Kefka.
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#428 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:36:31 PM | message detail
Yeah, Snake should win, it's just by how much. I think Kefka should do well, but doubt he challenges Snake, since it isn't a normal sprite round.
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#429 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:38:23 PM | message detail
So, Snake needs to clear 69% on Kefka to avoid being projected to be doubled by Crono. Hail our top character in the Noble Nine.
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#430 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:39:38 PM | message detail
It'd be a fitting end to these contests if Cloud somehow got rally power to win a contest.

The FFVII always wins cries will be louder than ever.
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#431 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:40:30 PM | message detail
We had topics today about "Why do we even have these contests anymore if FFVII is just going to win every time?"

So we might as well just go all the way!
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#432 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:40:37 PM | message detail
#433 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:41:36 PM | message detail
And the sad thing is.....2003 Crono really would crush Snake if he were magically teleported to 2013, complete with his 2003 votals. 79999 votes against Kefka. He'd crush Draven too.
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#434 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:41:57 PM | message detail
#435 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/4/2013 7:42:01 PM | message detail
That gif makes me dizzy
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#436 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:46:40 PM | message detail
Can you imagine Kefka in a FFVI remake

NN breaker
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#437 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:47:55 PM | message detail
Just make sure they avoid giving it the FFT treatment in a retranslation!

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#438 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:48:45 PM | message detail
red sox 777 posted...
And the sad thing is.....2003 Crono really would crush Snake if he were magically teleported to 2013, complete with his 2003 votals. 79999 votes against Kefka. He'd crush Draven too.


2010 Wesker got enough votes in his round 1 match to win nearly any non-Draven match here!
#439 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:50:50 PM | message detail
FFT Kefka is still probably knocking out some quotes!

Take Kefka from Dissidia and put him in a remake and the world will not be ready
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#440 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:51:25 PM | message detail
update before this one contained 92 votes
can we go any lower
#441 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:51:39 PM | message detail
#442 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:52:41 PM | message detail
Needs to channel more ARGATH
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#443 | Then00bAvenger | Posted 9/4/2013 7:53:14 PM | message detail | (edited)
You'll rue the day a submariner fell on your mother in whatever gutter saw you sired!
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#444 | ZFS | Posted 9/4/2013 7:53:11 PM | message detail
exellence
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#445 | charmander6000 | Posted 9/4/2013 7:53:15 PM | message detail
#446 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 7:54:44 PM | message detail
They might change his name to Cephcah.

It seems to be as if I were reading an instruction manual on how to better my personal life.
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#447 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/4/2013 7:57:43 PM | message detail
I positively loathe you.
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#448 | Qwaar | Posted 9/4/2013 7:59:46 PM | message detail
This lead is looking so comfortable for Sep that it begins to question why anyone went for Kirby in the first place.
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#449 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/4/2013 8:00:41 PM | message detail
Qwaar posted...
This lead is looking so comfortable for Sep that it begins to question why anyone went for Kirby in the first place.


*Kirby starts pulling in 300 vote updates*
#450 | LeonhartFour | Posted 9/4/2013 8:00:44 PM | message detail
Yeah, I know, right.

If all you can do is get 47% on a Noble Niner, you might as well be fodder nowadays...!
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