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I was considering posting a probably melodramatic post about my personal feelings on the "future of contests" following Link/Draven but didn't want to in the immediate wake because of all the "lol u mad" stuff. Not sure I will in the end either. Don't know if I want bog this place down with doom and gloom. I mean, I tried to keep the morale up here a little in the wake of BGE when OoT won so it'd feel a bit weird doing it myself!

I will say it's a bit "amusing" that we have another poll time related controversy almost 10 years to the day of Mario/Crono II. It really is that kind of match for the "newer" era. I honestly didn't think we could see something like that anymore.

if there's a contest in 2023 better watch out if we have a big match around that time

three's a trend
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GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX

*sees poll result for the first time* Okay, I wasn't entirely convinced that Sephiroth has fallen to near-elite status... I thought maybe low NN level, around Mega Man's typical strength. But today has proven me wrong beyond a shadow of a doubt. This kind of drop is unprecedented considering Sephiroth's status!

Just imagine how badly Link (or, uh, Draven) would dominate a Link/Cloud/Sephiroth match!

Without question Cloud has dropped a bunch as well, but between 2005 and 2010 the Cloud/Sephiroth gap widened somewhat (from a 52% victory for Cloud up to 54-55%). How about the gap now? My hunch is that it hasn't grown, and maybe it's even diminished, but let's apply some x-stats, Morgoth-style....

If Cloud > Sephiroth with 55% we have the following stats:

Cloud - hypothetical 40% on base Link (maybe 43%ish on 2010 Link)
Sephiroth - 36% - slightly less hypothetical
Kirby - 33.6%
Big Boss - 29.7%
Elizabeth - 20.7%
Crash - 20.5%

R1/2 stats from Cloud:
Frog - 28%..... -_-
Lugia - 24.8%
Prinny - 20.6%

R1/2 stats from Sephiroth:
Morrigan - 23.2%
Edgeworth - 16.5%
Spyro - 19.9%
Midna - 20.8%
Little Mac - 16.1%

Hard to say. Morrigan could be overinflated as much as Frog, but I've gotta believe Edgeworth got at least a portion of Phoenix Wright's boost, so I dunno. (Big Boss gets 72.3% as opposed to 76.2% in the most recent match)
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Seph is worth significantly more than this on Kirby 1v1. Kirby's got STF, is the most independent entity, has many of the match pictures overtly rigged in his favor, and had a pretty obnoxious rally that's certainly propping him up by a percentage point or two. Big Boss is a much better gauge despite him probably getting a touch of LPF... but even then, yeah, Seph seems pretty solidly in the low tier of the Noble Nine.
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Yeah, Sephiroth's hanging with near elites is kind of a sad sight to see. I know most of us are actually quite happy with his performance today because the last two months had painted a picture in which he could have definitely lost (hell, finished in third), but we've gotta remember where this guy was even just a contest or two ago.

This may sound crazy (or sour grapes since I'm one of only two Kirby backers in the Guru, and it didn't pan out), but I think that Kirby still MAY have had an outside shot today if not for all the Draven/Pokemon craziness. We had Draven and Mewtwo pull out rally-fueled wins in back-to-back matches that no one expected. I wouldn't be surprised that some of our normal GameFAQs voting contingent backed Sephiroth in an attempt to return to normalcy and because our "wtf" results quota had already been met and exceeded. If Link and Sonic had picked up the easy wins that everyone expected a month ago, then Kirby may be stronger today.

And that, truly, makes Sephiroth look even worse. Mewtwo, Squirtle, or Charizard would have given him the same treatment he gave to Midgar Zolom.
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I am actually "impressed" by Sephiroth right now..my expectation were that low after the first and second rounds
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I'm impressed with Sephiroth insofar as I expected him to lose. And that if he won it would be quite close. Closer than this, at least!
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GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX

I am miffed overall. Link, Mario, Sonic, Mega Man likely all go down but not Seph? This contest.

If he's a low noble now given his drastic rate of decline you'd have to worry about him maintaining that for the next contest unlike KH3 does something for him.
Having his anti-votes split in this format is probably flattering him as well.

I'm making my first contest pic. First, does anyone know where to submit it? Second, does anyone know if I can use Brawl or anime pictures for Squirtle?
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Kirby cut a vote!
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So I'm trying to straighten out the timeline of what happened during Link/Draven. I know at one point the Reddit rally thread was deleted, and a new one made. Was that before the downtime? I'm thinking yes but not sure.

(also, what are STF and LPF >_>)

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Some are impressed by him others are not. I'd say he is performing around expected. Just because he gets antivoted to hell an back in weak fights doesn't mean he is a non-nn, that's not to say his strength has dwindled over the years. I'd say depending on the circumstance he can still beat half or near half of the NN, in turn he can prolly be beat by the same half along with the top half. I'd gauge he is somewhere in the middle of the NN.
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Two exclusively Solid S*** pictures really picsmiths one wasn't enough

Well at least Snake looks good in the rest. 75% of his full power should be enough to do it!
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Karma Hunter posted...

Two exclusively Solid S*** pictures really picsmiths one wasn't enough

Well at least Snake looks good in the rest. 75% of his full power should be enough to do it!

pic #8 is funny

Karma Hunter posted...

Seph is worth significantly more than this on Kirby 1v1. Kirby's got STF, is the most independent entity, has many of the match pictures overtly rigged in his favor, and had a pretty obnoxious rally that's certainly propping him up by a percentage point or two.

Right, I forgot to take that into account.

Let's set Kirby = Big Boss, shall we?

Cloud - 40%
Kirby - 29.7%
Big Boss - 29.7%
Elizabeth - 18.3%
Crash - 18.1%

Looks like Crash underperformed against Kirby for certain, then.
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"Ah, a party! We haven't had one of those! It could be fun! So... what is a party?" "Well, you drink punch and eat CAKE! ...I think."

If there was a "generic enemy" contest, do you think that Goombas would win?
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I'm liking image 8 with those descriptive words!

EDIT: ugh, how horrible my writing gets when I don't proof-read.

Image 6 also deserves brownie points for a Kefka sprite that is NOT laughing.
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Really guys? Not one, but TWO Solid **** pics?!
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Drakeryn posted...

So I'm trying to straighten out the timeline of what happened during Link/Draven. I know at one point the Reddit rally thread was deleted, and a new one made. Was that before the downtime? I'm thinking yes but not sure.

(also, what are STF and LPF >_>)

STF is Sore Thumb Factor. In this match, Kirby sticks out like a sore thumb in all the pictures because he's a big pink ball against two human males with muted tones. It's not a huge factor except in the most extreme cases... which this qualifies as. I'd guess it's giving him maybe a percent.

LPF is Last Place Factor. It's the tendency of last place characters in multiway polls to get abandoned and look much worse than they would otherwise.
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Sprite Kefka everywhere
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Points: 119/180 Today's Pick: Sephiroth

Drakeryn posted...

So I'm trying to straighten out the timeline of what happened during Link/Draven. I know at one point the Reddit rally thread was deleted, and a new one made. Was that before the downtime? I'm thinking yes but not sure.

(also, what are STF and LPF >_>)

It was removed before the downtime.
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I thought I'd never say this but Kefka looks great in every single match picture, too. His sprite is almost omnipresent. Talk about making up for bad karma. This should be the strongest Kefka we've ever seen.
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Kefka's the big winner in terms of pics here, I think. Pretty impressive!
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Having no real investment in this contest anymore (after picking Kirby in my expert challenge), I'd really like to see Kefka win this match, even though he won't.
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ah, okay. thanks KH/tennisboy.

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I'd be getting really nervous about Solid S*** v Laughing Kefka but 25% of the pictures I can't imagine is decisive, even if it could make Snake look worse relative to expectations. I'm just relieved this isn't an actual sprite round; good riddance to that rubbish.
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Karma Hunter posted...

I'd be getting really nervous about Solid S*** v Laughing Kefka but 25% of the pictures I can't imagine is decisive, even if it could make Snake look worse relative to expectations. I'm just relieved this isn't an actual sprite round; good riddance to that rubbish.

can you imagine

sprite snake against angel kefka to the background of the ffvi final battle?

not sure how you fit glados in there but who cares
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GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX

Hanging from the top of the picture insulting the voters for being so fickle and impressionable I imagine. :/
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Forgot Glados was in that match.
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The contest is crumbling around us and Kefka is our only hope.

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haha, Zack Fair is listed twice in the 2013 Total Nominations page on the wiki
LOL

"Hey why is this Snake guy in two matches in a row!?"
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I'm more and more thinking Snake and Cloud are going to steamroll their matches. Guess we'll see soon.

Yoblazer, I agree that Kirby would have had a chance if not for the earlier craziness. But much much more Draven than Pokemon.
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Then00bAvenger posted...

"Hey why is this Snake guy in two matches in a row!?"

You have no idea how much I'd like to see a Snake v Big Boss match where it's Solid **** up against MGS3 Big Boss.

Just to see what happens
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GotD (219/384) Melee v FFX

In all seriousness, my estimate is that Sprite Snake v Laughing Kefka probably hurts the former to the tune of maybe 10 points? So assuming that a good performance for Snake on Kefka would be in the 68% range (still hoping he can impress on a Link level and that seems really good considering what we've seen from Kefka this year), Sprite Snake in 25% of the pictures should hurt him enough so that he should be around a doubling on Kefka to be impressive.

Of course, I may have Kefka completely pegged off from what most people are expecting.
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I really doubt Snake manages 68% on Kefka in a neutral match.
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But ugh, that sounds like I'm really underestimating what's probably the strongest Kefka we've ever seen. We could see him around Sora level and then 63-64% might be more appropriate...

...glad I skipped out on the Oracle this year.
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63-64% is actually what I was going to say!
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The way my paranoia's going I think I'm just gonna predict 50.01% and be happy if Snake can exceed that. <_<
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I don't think Kefka will win here, though. It'd be great to see, if only because it tops off the craziness of this contest, but I think the strength difference is pretty wide here, without any anchor holding Snake own. I've never believed Snake was at Link's level, but he is probably #2 right now. A couple of Sprite Snake pics probably won't ruin him, but he is facing a Kefka who should be much more representative of FFVI than ever before, so I don't think it'll be a huge blowout but probably not a close match either. Also doubt rallies matter.
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man, the update before this one had 121 votes

I don't think anybody here has a good grasp on how strong Kefka is at this point. Aside from Kefka himself being wonky, the people he beat (Zack, Ryu Hayabusa, Altair, and Lara Croft) are not exactly pillars of contest consistency. Also I can't believe Hayabusa got put into a position where he could have potentially run into Snake AGAIN.

But since Snake doubled Vivi in 2008, a stronger Snake doubling Kefka would be a good mark to shoot for I...guess? Maybe?

Snake could also almost triple Kefka and I wouldn't bad an eye. Kefka ~ Alucard? Sure, why not?
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Kefka would crush Alucard, I think. Wouldn't hesitate on picking Kefka there.
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We are underestimating Kefka too much here, i think he could possibly beat Sora and an unrallied Vivi at this point. Snake scoring around 61-62% on him would be good.
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AxemRedRanger posted...

But since Snake doubled Vivi in 2008

Snake to double Mario CONFIRMED

Kefka got... 59% on Altair in a day match. He probably increases that to at least 62% over 24 hours with his killer night vote, which using Kirby/Vivi and Vivi/Altair projects Kefka to be at Kirby 2010's level.

...yeah even presuming an Altair drop I'm being way too optimistic with Snake, even Link shouldn't be able to manage what I was throwing out there. 63-64% would be a really killer performance for Snake on this Kefka.
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Karma Hunter posted...

Kefka got... 59% on Altair in a day match. He probably increases that to at least 62% over 24 hours with his killer night vote, which using Kirby/Vivi and Vivi/Altair projects Kefka to be at Kirby 2010's level.

...yeah even presuming an Altair drop I'm being way too optimistic with Snake, even Link shouldn't be able to manage what I was throwing out there. 63-64% would be a really killer performance for Snake on this Kefka.

but he doubled a guy who beat Mario, Kefka has no chance....!

#2 strongest character Snake getting what 2010 Bowser got on Kefka?

A presumably stronger Snake barely outdoing what he got on Squall in 2010 against Kefka?

I'd love to see Kefka look amazing here but some of you people are literally calling for Kefka with good pics to be a near-elite.

I just want you to be aware of this and not say Kefka is trolling again.if a guy that was around the fodder line 5 years ago fails to look on par with Auron.
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Bowser's percentage was in a day match, he'd have gotten a lot less over 24 hours. I'd go higher if this was a day match.

The Altair percentage is hard to ignore. Being projected to be equal to Kirby isn't anything to mess around with. And I simply think Kefka has probably boosted on top of all of that.

You make good points, probably the reason why I was starting out so high with Snake. But I think I've been genuinely convinced that was too high.
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