Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1152

#151 | lightning-02 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:27:55 AM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
Crono scored 47% on Mario. That means he beats Sonic 1vs1. Unless you think that Mario is very weak now.


47% on Mario with a faux-Nintendo character in MM in the poll, that's absolutely pathetic.

And Mario lost to Vivi so there are serious question marks over his strength to begin with.
#152 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:28:17 AM | message detail
-LusterSoldier- posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
imho the Rivalry Rumble tanking votals killed Link against Draven

rivalry rumbleeeeeeeee


Vote totals were already declining before we had the Rivalry Rumble. GOTD had like 27% less votes than the Character Battle that happened earlier in the year. I think Rivalry Rumble's horrible vote totals can't be blamed on the contest format, but rather the natural decline instead.


shut up, it's part of SBAllen's master plan to tank votals and allow LoL to take over the site >_>
#153 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2013 11:30:20 AM | message detail
lightning-02 posted...
Safer_777 posted...
Crono scored 47% on Mario. That means he beats Sonic 1vs1. Unless you think that Mario is very weak now.


47% on Mario with a faux-Nintendo character in MM in the poll, that's absolutely pathetic.

And Mario lost to Vivi so there are serious question marks over his strength to begin with.


Even if you credit MMX as being a full, pure Nintendo character, Mario maxes out at around a projection of 57% on Crono in a day match. Spotting Crono a few more percentage points for the night vote that he missed out on and it's still much more impressive than Sonic.
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#154 | Gatarix | Posted 9/3/2013 11:30:37 AM | message detail
Who would you guys take in Zelda/Sonic? I'm surprised to see Mewtwo doing so well even after Charizard kind of bombed (unless Mewtwo is just that much better than Charizard, which would also surprise me).

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#155 | Nanis23 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:30:43 AM | message detail
I still think my chaos theory of
Squirtle>Cloud
Pikachu>Blue>Sora
Megaman>Charizard>Zero
Vivi>Squall>Red
Can work
This is something that will make the least sense ever,and this is why it will happen!
#156 | Safer_777 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:32:14 AM | message detail
Zelda beats Sonic it seems. I mean Sonic can't beat Mewtwo with another Nintendo character there!
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#157 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:32:16 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
I still think my chaos theory of
Squirtle>Cloud
Blue>Pikachu>Sora
Zero>Charizard>Mega Man
Vivi>Squall>Red
Can work
This is something that will make the least sense ever,and this is why it will happen!


fixed
oh yeah obligatory Sephiroth winning his division then somehow beating Draven and losing to Mewtwo
#158 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2013 11:34:10 AM | message detail
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.
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#159 | IngmarBirdman | Posted 9/3/2013 11:36:11 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
You think Pikachu can escape Pikachu/Sora/Blue while Cloud beats Squirtle???


Not really, I just want it to happen!

I guess the best case is that Cloud is beast, Leon Kennedy just folds and Squirtle can't match Cloud. Then in the second match Pokémon fans drop Blue like third period french and Pikachu flattens Sora.

It's for the sake of a good match. Snake / Squirtle / Pikachu would be a joke. Snake / Cloud / Sora isn't much better, we don't even know Snake =? Cloud but Sora will tank Cloud enough to remove all doubt from the order. I guess I don't know about Snake / Squirtle / Sora but I think Snake / Cloud / Pikachu is a better version.
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#160 | BleedingRed | Posted 9/3/2013 11:36:27 AM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
Anyone read LoL reddit comments to see how they react to this match and what can it say about the next round?
Rallies were shot down in the LoL subreddit a few times and today a /v/ rally for Sonic was deleted as well
It seems like the rallies went out of hand and it made people annoyed at them - making mods start deleting rally topics

This is also going to be the fourth Draven match and the fourth rally,maybe LoL fans won't mind it too much anymore?
Besides,beating Link was the true achievment and winning the contest is a secondary thing?
Who knows


This is what makes me think that Cloud can still be a 'beacon of hope' so to speak. I feel as though the Link vs. Draven thing was the apex for a lot of the Draven ralliers, and I don't think their rallies are going to be as hard later in the contest. Cloud has a legitimate shot of beating him IMO with his natural strength, backlash against Reddit/LoL and potential rallies.
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#161 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:36:44 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


Magikarp vs Sonic?
#162 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2013 11:39:54 AM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


Magikarp vs Sonic?


Magikarp wasn't that impressive. He would need to be artificially boosted, because Mega Man held him to below 37%. Well, or Mega Man would have to be on Link's level now.
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#163 | FranzyvonKarma | Posted 9/3/2013 11:41:48 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


Magikarp vs Sonic?


Magikarp wasn't that impressive. He would need to be artificially boosted, because Mega Man held him to below 37%. Well, or Mega Man would have to be on Link's level now.


Link (2010c) has a strength of 52.23 against Base Link.
Jill Valentine (2010c) has a strength of 29.17 against Base Link.

Link 72.08% 77,464
Jill Valentine 27.92% 30,012
TOTAL VOTES 107,477

Mega Man 50.00%
Jill Valentine 28.94%

You might be onto something here...
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#164 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:42:49 AM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Magikarp wasn't that impressive. He would need to be artificially boosted, because Mega Man held him to below 37%. Well, or Mega Man would have to be on Link's level now.


what are you gonna say when Mega Man beats Draven

BleedingRed posted...
This is what makes me think that Cloud can still be a 'beacon of hope' so to speak. I feel as though the Link vs. Draven thing was the apex for a lot of the Draven ralliers, and I don't think their rallies are going to be as hard later in the contest. Cloud has a legitimate shot of beating him IMO with his natural strength, backlash against Reddit/LoL and potential rallies.


no chance
Cloud gets anti-voted harder than Link for some reason, and reddit isn't gonna stop after taking out Link
now if the LoL subreddit mods are sick of rally threads (something that we can help with!), then that could swing the whole contest
#165 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2013 11:46:58 AM | message detail | (edited)
Jill's probably just weaker today and Kratos is even more pathetic than that. Mega Man looks a lot stronger, but it'll take another powerful showing just to convince me that he's indirectly stronger than Mario.

Edit: Oh, and Mega Man's percentage is deceptive. He beasts the first three hours and freefalls for the rest of the match. He would have probably ended up close to Samus's percentage on Jill in a 24 hour match, which is about the most optimistic one could possibly be for his strength, Mega Man now being equal to Samus.
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#166 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:48:17 AM | message detail
you know, I'm hoping Draven rallies get killed just so we can make hilarious projections for Mewtwo vs Link
#167 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 11:57:49 AM | message detail
wait, a sec, where's the link to the detailed match updates (the one with %s for each update that was linked several times yesterday)
#168 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/3/2013 12:07:33 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
1.19%. So that means that if Draven wins the final round he will still have higher prediction than L-Block.


I don't see how that stands to reason, unless you assume that everyone who has Draven > Link has Draven winning it all. Which, admittedly, isn't illogical, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone retain 100% of their prediction percentage from round to round.

SockoDeus posted...
ArtosRC posted...
SockoDeus posted...
Since when is Mewtwo so strong?


Since Gen I.


Hilarious. I'll rephrase: How does Mewtwo go from losing in Round 1 to Ganondorf to beating Sonic and Bowser?


Nanis23 posted...
Obviously Mega Mewtwo boost


While I suspect that Nanis meant that jokingly, that actually is the most logical explanation. I think it worked kind of the way a Smash announcement boost works--the fact that Mega Mewtwo was announced so early in the Gen VI reveal process suggests that Mewtwo will actually be available in-game without having to transfer from an earlier version, even though there's no confirmation of this.
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#169 | raginbull911 | Posted 9/3/2013 12:10:22 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Safer_777 posted...
1.19%. So that means that if Draven wins the final round he will still have higher prediction than L-Block.


I don't see how that stands to reason, unless you assume that everyone who has Draven > Link has Draven winning it all. Which, admittedly, isn't illogical, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone retain 100% of their prediction percentage from round to round.


I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of that 1.19% were people aiming for a 0 bracket as well. If that were the case, Draven would potentially have to defeat the unstoppable god Chester next round.
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#170 | Squirrelgate | Posted 9/3/2013 12:14:31 PM | message detail
So who would be best for Mewtwo to be up against alongside Draven? I honestly have no clue.
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#171 | squexa | Posted 9/3/2013 12:14:59 PM | message detail
BleedingRed posted...
Nanis23 posted...
Anyone read LoL reddit comments to see how they react to this match and what can it say about the next round?
Rallies were shot down in the LoL subreddit a few times and today a /v/ rally for Sonic was deleted as well
It seems like the rallies went out of hand and it made people annoyed at them - making mods start deleting rally topics

This is also going to be the fourth Draven match and the fourth rally,maybe LoL fans won't mind it too much anymore?
Besides,beating Link was the true achievment and winning the contest is a secondary thing?
Who knows


This is what makes me think that Cloud can still be a 'beacon of hope' so to speak. I feel as though the Link vs. Draven thing was the apex for a lot of the Draven ralliers, and I don't think their rallies are going to be as hard later in the contest. Cloud has a legitimate shot of beating him IMO with his natural strength, backlash against Reddit/LoL and potential rallies.


Yeah, can't see CLOUD of all people being the beacon of hope. The problem with Cloud is that he will always bear the effeminate emo anime JRPG image that's really easy to hate and anti-vote. Even on GameFAQs, which has a high bias for JRPG, I can't even see people rallying behind him.

The other issue about Cloud winning by natural strength is that vote-splitting is now going to be a serious problem. Link got lucky because he's so good at killing things that Shep got fodderized and Link got most of the GameFAQs votes. I just can't see Cloud doing that against L-Block/Samus/Charizard, considering I don't even know if he can beat Squirte/Snake at this point.

The only real hope here against a Draven win is that the rallying stops because r/LeagueofLegends banned it. In that case, Draven could lose next round.
#172 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 12:15:01 PM | message detail
raginbull911 posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Safer_777 posted...
1.19%. So that means that if Draven wins the final round he will still have higher prediction than L-Block.


I don't see how that stands to reason, unless you assume that everyone who has Draven > Link has Draven winning it all. Which, admittedly, isn't illogical, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone retain 100% of their prediction percentage from round to round.


I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of that 1.19% were people aiming for a 0 bracket as well. If that were the case, Draven would potentially have to defeat the unstoppable god Chester next round.


people putting 0 brackets on Draven, the biggest wild card even before the contest?
besides, even if they did for round 1, pretty sure Face McShooty absorbs it all in round 2
(why the hell are we discussing this)
#173 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/3/2013 12:16:00 PM | message detail
Not_Wylvane posted...
xp1337 posted...
Big Boss to rSFF Snake off MGSV hype!

big boss taking this contest our last chance at redemption


I take what I said back. Big Boss beating Snake in the finals would utterly fantastic and hilarious.

Also, all Pokemon aren't the same. Look at Missingno and Jigglypuff bombing. I think Mewtwo's boosted hard for some reason, while Charizard lost a step or so. Squirtle's beastly, Pikachu's Pikachu, and the trainers are pretty buffed up from the Rivalry Rumble.

I predict Charizard will still lose to Mega Man, even with Zero in the match. If you think that makes no sense, well, have you seen the rest of this contest?


That's...possible. I'm not really sure what to think. Votals tailed off after the initial explosion, so I think we can expect the normal level of votes...but that's going to be a tough fanbase split to overcome. I think I'd sooner pick Mega Man for third than for first.

snoocete posted...
Not_Wylvane posted...
Hell, neither would Tifa somehow getting a win, since nobody seems to hate Tifa, probably for a couple of reasons.


Tetris seems to be mostly played on handheld consoles, and Nintendo has majority market share for handhelds right? So maybe L Block would keep Samus down and Tifa advances. >_>


Okay, where exactly do you get that? I think that's the same theorizing that makes people think Tetris is pseudo-Nintendo even though it actually reached the US over two years before it reached Japan. (Which in itself makes no sense, because that was while the Cold War was still going on.)

Nanis23 posted...
I just realized it's inpossible to predict any round 3 match (in fact,Draven match was the easiest)
Seph can either win or finish 3d place
Snake is lock to first but Kefka GlaDOS debateable
Leon is lock for last place but Squirtle over cloud is not impossible
Sora first,no idea if Pojefans favor Pika or Blue more
Tifa last,Samus and L Block...well..
Red won't finish first
Charizard might flop

Im honestly considering all the following might happen-
Squirtle beat Cloud,Sora finish last,Red gets last place and Charizard finishing second


Agree that the next one is tough. I don't think Kefka-GLaDOS is debatable; I'm pretty sure Kefka's got it. And the rest...yeah. Debatable 1-2 in the D5 final; debatable 2-3 in the D6 final, debatable 1-2 in the D7 final, debatable everything in the D8 final, and...debatable everything in the D9 final.
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#174 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/3/2013 12:17:07 PM | message detail
1337gamerpr0 posted...
raginbull911 posted...
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
Safer_777 posted...
1.19%. So that means that if Draven wins the final round he will still have higher prediction than L-Block.


I don't see how that stands to reason, unless you assume that everyone who has Draven > Link has Draven winning it all. Which, admittedly, isn't illogical, but I don't think we've ever seen anyone retain 100% of their prediction percentage from round to round.


I'd be willing to bet a decent chunk of that 1.19% were people aiming for a 0 bracket as well. If that were the case, Draven would potentially have to defeat the unstoppable god Chester next round.


people putting 0 brackets on Draven, the biggest wild card even before the contest?
besides, even if they did for round 1, pretty sure Face McShooty absorbs it all in round 2
(why the hell are we discussing this)


Agreed. There were far better choices for 0 brackets.
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#175 | 1337gamerpr0 | Posted 9/3/2013 12:17:51 PM | message detail
screw that noise, I believe in Pikachu getting 1st!
#176 | TsunamiXXVIII | Posted 9/3/2013 12:20:37 PM | message detail
GloriousSweater posted...
The ONLY real blip Pokemon has had this contest was Charizard's 50/50 with Zelda, and as Link has just demonstrated, that can very likely be attributed to LoZ's grittiness and unwillingness to lose to damn near anything. Mewtwo is cleaning Bowser's clock here and there is very little reason to presume Charizard or Blastoise wouldn't be doing the same in his place. It's unreasonable to think that "Mewtwo's boosted" and close the book there. All of Pokemon has boosted - in terms of both intrinsic strength and the Nintendo SFF ladder.


...I like it. Nay, I love it. The idea of Zelda being indirectly stronger than Samus seems odd, but given the way Samus has always folded in the face of Nintendo SFF (frequently getting rSFFed in wins over other Nintendo characters), the idea that Charizard may still have a chance as long as Red isn't there is very appealing to me.
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#177 | -LusterSoldier- | Posted 9/3/2013 12:32:52 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
That's...possible. I'm not really sure what to think. Votals tailed off after the initial explosion, so I think we can expect the normal level of votes...but that's going to be a tough fanbase split to overcome. I think I'd sooner pick Mega Man for third than for first.


Yeah, vote totals dropped off severely after that first hour. For the record, here are the hourly vote totals for the first 6 hours of today's match and the first 6 hours of the 2011 age poll:

Time | Today | 2011 age poll
1:00 | 8071 | 7834
2:00 | 3551 | 5300
3:00 | 2565 | 3769
4:00 | 1956 | 2945
5:00 | 1624 | 2419
6:00 | 1537 | 2267

Look at that collapse after the first hour. Even the third hour of the 2011 age poll got more votes than the second hour of today's match. If today's match acted like a normal match in terms of vote totals, a match with almost 8100 votes at the end of the first hour will manage to get over 5000 votes in the second hour.
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#178 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/3/2013 12:44:53 PM | message detail | (edited)
Nanis23 posted...
I just realized it's inpossible to predict any round 3 match (in fact,Draven match was the easiest)
Seph can either win or finish 3d place
Snake is lock to first but Kefka GlaDOS debateable
Leon is lock for last place but Squirtle over cloud is not impossible
Sora first,no idea if Pojefans favor Pika or Blue more
Tifa last,Samus and L Block...well..
Red won't finish first
Charizard might flop

Im honestly considering all the following might happen-
Squirtle beat Cloud,Sora finish last,Red gets last place and Charizard finishing second


Red would have to lay a massive turd to NOT win his match, given the position he's in...
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#179 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 12:45:09 PM | message detail
Poor Sonic. Not sure this is totally legitimate Mewtwo strength here though. He could be benefiting from a bandwagon after beating Vincent last round.

...Sonic looks bad here either way though.
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#180 | The Mana Sword | Posted 9/3/2013 12:50:40 PM | message detail
sonic deserves this after 2006 tbqh
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#181 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 12:51:07 PM | message detail
Safer_777 posted...
How can someone not love Pokemon?There are 649 Pokemon out there.Are you telling me you don't like even 1 of them?


Whichever Pokemon I like will be off of Smash Bros (most likely Mewtwo and Charizard...actually no, forget those two as well). I honestly don't get the appeal of Pokemon.
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#182 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 12:53:05 PM | message detail
Nanis23 posted...
lightning-02 posted...
Safer_777 posted...
How can someone not love Pokemon?There are 649 Pokemon out there.Are you telling me you don't like even 1 of them?


Pokemon are a species not a character, debatable if they should even be eligible for this. The 6 pokemon characters who are doing well and have made the 3rd round all owe their popularity to a childrens anime from the 90's.
Anything related solely to the games like N just bombs horribly. There's plenty of reasons to love Pokemon games and not love whats happening with these particular "characters" in the contest.


Yoshi is a species too

As for Pokemon having favorable spots-what?
I can only agree with Blue Pikachu and Charizard,but then Blue and Pikachu screw each other

Vivi Squall Red was not planned,it was actually disadvantage for Missingno and Red
Mewtwo over Vincent wasn't planned as well


Yoshi is a bad example to bring up. Dude has his own games. Dude is a single playable character in Smash Bros. Same thing with all those Pokemon, really.
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#183 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 12:53:36 PM | message detail
The Mana Sword posted...
sonic deserves this after 2006 tbqh


Still one of the greatest matches of all time
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#184 | Lightning Strikes | Posted 9/3/2013 12:57:47 PM | message detail
I find it interesting that Sonic's best year in one of these was the year his worst game came out.

Anyway, Sonic has had some really good games lately. Not among his greats, but very solid, and Lost World looks like it might be one of his best.
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#185 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 1:00:05 PM | message detail
charmander6000 posted...
Blue on Nathan wasn't too bad when you consider him to be about as strong as Fox.


I think the problem most have is that it projects Fox to get only 59% on Pac-Man or something. Problem is, Pac-Man has always been a decent midcarder who simply manages to look like awful fodder due to being quite possibly the most SFF-prone entrant the contests have ever seen. Plus having a hard time even getting into contests.

Heck, Pac-Man may have boosted just out of being a "classic gaming icon". Other characters like that, e.g. Crash, Spyro, DK have all done well this contest. Though you could argue that Mario stunk the joint.

Never mind that Smash Bros.-reliant characters have largely been on the decline this contest. Samus and maybe Kirby are the only ones in that group who haven't shown signs of decline, but the latter got arguably his most high-profile games since the contests began since last contest so it makes sense for him to boost. Samus...SNES character boost? Female character boost? GameCube nostalgia boost? I'm lost.
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#186 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 1:01:25 PM | message detail
Thankfully that contest happened prior to Sonic 2006's release!
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#187 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/3/2013 1:02:36 PM | message detail
Was CATS in this tournament? I've been reading the 2003 FFP and was missing him.

By the way, the 2003 FFP website also says Cloud/Link was August 30, not September 1. My memory says it was an August date, and September 1 is my birthday so I'd think I'd remember.

I guess I'll check my old passport- I know I went to Canada on the day of Mario/Crono. Though I don't know if they'd have stamped it.
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#188 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 1:04:26 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


I like how people are seriously considering Zelda > Sonic at a time where Sonic's series has gotten resurrected while Zelda's has hit an all-time low in terms of popularity (unless you want to account for the MM/WW nostalgia boost).
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#189 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 1:05:26 PM | message detail
FranzyvonKarma posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
1337gamerpr0 posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


Magikarp vs Sonic?


Magikarp wasn't that impressive. He would need to be artificially boosted, because Mega Man held him to below 37%. Well, or Mega Man would have to be on Link's level now.


Link (2010c) has a strength of 52.23 against Base Link.
Jill Valentine (2010c) has a strength of 29.17 against Base Link.

Link 72.08% 77,464
Jill Valentine 27.92% 30,012
TOTAL VOTES 107,477

Mega Man 50.00%
Jill Valentine 28.94%

You might be onto something here...


Isn't that pretty much the exact same percentage Link got in Jill in 2002?

Re-run that match, now.
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#190 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/3/2013 1:06:32 PM | message detail
I'd take Sonic over Zelda without too much fear. He beat Ganondorf pretty easily. Yes, there was a pic advantage, but even without it, Sonic looked like he would have won pretty cleanly.

As for Charizard = Zelda, I have no explanation. But I'd consider an A > B > C > A loop. I've always been open to the idea.
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#191 | Fayt_Esteed | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:32 PM | message detail | (edited)
LinkMarioSamus posted...
Karma Hunter posted...
My projection currently has Sonic just a smidge over Mewtwo right now, which is pretty bad. I'd take Sonic over Zelda 1v1, but I wouldn't like it.


I like how people are seriously considering Zelda > Sonic at a time where Sonic's series has gotten resurrected while Zelda's has hit an all-time low in terms of popularity (unless you want to account for the MM/WW nostalgia boost).


With Zelda refusing to fold to anything, and Sonic sucking it up in matches with Nintendo characters... let's just say I wouldn't exactly be surprised.
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#192 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:04 PM | message detail
#193 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:04 PM | message detail
Karma Hunter posted...
Jill's probably just weaker today and Kratos is even more pathetic than that. Mega Man looks a lot stronger, but it'll take another powerful showing just to convince me that he's indirectly stronger than Mario.

Edit: Oh, and Mega Man's percentage is deceptive. He beasts the first three hours and freefalls for the rest of the match. He would have probably ended up close to Samus's percentage on Jill in a 24 hour match, which is about the most optimistic one could possibly be for his strength, Mega Man now being equal to Samus.


Jill being weaker despite getting not just a new game, but the most well-liked Resident Evil since RE4? And despite other PS1 characters doing well?

(then again, it's not like Lara, Crash, or Spyro did well in R2. And things just go to LOL territory if you want to include Alucard and the FF crew in the conversation. Sans Squall I guess)
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#194 | Squirrelgate | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:14 PM | message detail
I'm not sure if this is old news but I found this in the comments for the Draven victory thread on Reddit:

http://i.imgur.com/HH6VqzX.png

I didn't think I could have a lower opinion of a website until I saw this post.
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#195 | ZinsanityCraze | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:30 PM | message detail
http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2013/4/1/4170932/aj-lee-ranks-metal-gear-solid-the-greatest-video-game-of-all-time

[CM Punk and I] were talking about Snake the other day, actually. [Laughs] He was trying to compare himself to Solid Snake. [I said], 'You are not cool enough to be anywhere near Solid Snake.' [Laughs]


OMG AJ, should Draven make it to the final, please rally for Snake on your twitter.
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#196 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 1:07:51 PM | message detail
#197 | red sox 777 | Posted 9/3/2013 1:08:20 PM | message detail
Huh, when I opened that poll it said I'd voted for CATS. Strange, I have no memory of this.
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#198 | LeonhartFour (Topic Creator) | Posted 9/3/2013 1:08:58 PM | message detail
Most people don't remember that match happened, yeah.
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#199 | LinkMarioSamus | Posted 9/3/2013 1:10:16 PM | message detail
TsunamiXXVIII posted...
GloriousSweater posted...
The ONLY real blip Pokemon has had this contest was Charizard's 50/50 with Zelda, and as Link has just demonstrated, that can very likely be attributed to LoZ's grittiness and unwillingness to lose to damn near anything. Mewtwo is cleaning Bowser's clock here and there is very little reason to presume Charizard or Blastoise wouldn't be doing the same in his place. It's unreasonable to think that "Mewtwo's boosted" and close the book there. All of Pokemon has boosted - in terms of both intrinsic strength and the Nintendo SFF ladder.


...I like it. Nay, I love it. The idea of Zelda being indirectly stronger than Samus seems odd, but given the way Samus has always folded in the face of Nintendo SFF (frequently getting rSFFed in wins over other Nintendo characters), the idea that Charizard may still have a chance as long as Red isn't there is very appealing to me.


Uh, didn't Samus SFF Zelda last contest? The only way for Zelda to beat Samus would be Zelda boosting due to Majora's Mask and Wind Waker gaining in popularity while Samus deboosts from DmC.
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#200 | Karma Hunter | Posted 9/3/2013 1:12:27 PM | message detail
Samus SFFed Zelda hard. Charizard has no shot.
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